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LenaDFan
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:20 AM
Her eyes were popping out of her sockets and she wasn't even singing well!

And are they trying to make some sort of statement by having all of the opening ceremonies preformed by African Americans? :rolleyes:

GoDominique
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:27 AM
:rolleyes:

LenaDFan
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:37 AM
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :wavey:

GoDominique
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:38 AM
:rolleyes: :wavey:
:rolleyes: :retard:

harloo
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:38 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o

faboozadoo15
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:46 AM
the guy for the men's final was the worst singer i have ever heard perform at any sporting event. he forgot the words, sang the same verse three times out of key, started humming, and then bombed the final note.

i LOVED the woman they had for the women's final!!! she was sooo into it, and it sounded different. nothing bland about it, and she didn't fuck it up...

but that guy, i hope he never tries this again, and hopefully next year they'll pick someone who knows at least 2 of the verses.

selking
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:10 AM
the guy for the men's final was the worst singer i have ever heard perform at any sporting event. he forgot the words, sang the same verse three times out of key, started humming, and then bombed the final note.

i LOVED the woman they had for the women's final!!! she was sooo into it, and it sounded different. nothing bland about it, and she didn't fuck it up...

but that guy, i hope he never tries this again, and hopefully next year they'll pick someone who knows at least 2 of the verses.


i think there was spose to be music for that guy but the people messed it up.

faboozadoo15
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:40 AM
Yes that guy was bad I had to switch the channel until I think he was done. Couldn't they find anyone else other than that guy.
"random man from audience" could have done a much better job. one of the people carrying the flag should have slapped the mic away from his mouth and picked it up.

tennisbum79
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:59 AM
http://www.sonyclassical.com/img/vanillapages/bio_hdr.gif





In opera, in recital and in concert appearances with symphony orchestras and chamber music collaborators, Jessye Norman’s thoughtful music-making, innovative programming and fervent advocacy of contemporary music share equal acclaim with the majesty of her voice. In recent seasons, she has premiered the song cycle woman.life.song by composer Judith Weir – commissioned for her by Carnegie Hall, with texts by Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou and Clarissa Pinkola Estes – and performed the sacred music of Duke Ellington in a dramatic musical production. She has also released her first jazz CD, Jessye Norman Sings Michel Legrand. These varied expansions of her art have received wide acclaim. Miss Norman sings an exciting and unusual operatic repertoire that embraces composers ranging from Rameau and Berlioz to Schoenberg and Bartok at opera houses around the world, most notably the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, La Scala, Vienna State Opera, Deutsche Oper Berlin and Lyric Opera of Chicago, as well as the Saito Kinen, Aix-en-Provence and Salzburg Festivals. Her distinguished association with Metropolitan Opera began with her debut on the opening night of the company’s centennial season in 1983. Her remarkable catalogue of recordings has won numerous international awards. Recognized worldwide for her remarkable humanitarian efforts as well as her artistic accomplishments, Miss Norman became the youngest recipient of the United States Kennedy Center Honor in 1997. She has received some thirty honorary doctorates from colleges and universities, decorations and distinctions from governments around the world and appointment in 1990 as an honorary U.N. ambassador. In Augusta, Georgia, her hometown, the Amphitheatre and Plaza overlooking the tranquil Savannah River have been named for Jessye Norman.


Source:
http://www.sonyclassical.com/artists/norman/bio.html

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Norman, Jessye

Norman, Jessye, 1945–, American soprano, b. Augusta, Ga. Making her early reputation in Europe, Norman won the Munich competition in 1968, debuted in Tannhäuser in 1969 with the Berlin Opera, and was a great success as Aïda at Milan's La Scala and London's Covent Garden in 1972. She made her American debut in 1982 as Jocasta in Oedipus Rex and her Metropolitan Opera debut the following year as Cassandra in Les Troyens. A majestic diva and extremely successful recording artist, she is praised for her enormous vocal power, tonal warmth, and clarity of diction. One of the most acclaimed musical artists of the late 20th cent., Norman commands a broad operatic repertoire and also frequently performs concerts of lieder, spirituals, oratorios, and a variety of other works.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0835885.html (http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0835885.html)

SelesFan70
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:02 AM
"That woman" was excellent. Her powerful voice made a powerful statement and it sent shivers up my spine! :)

tennispro105
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:03 AM
i think it was because they were expecting the williams' and w/e... i dunno

they had diana ross one year they were in the finals... i hated both of 'em... i couldn't stand the woman's singing and the way she was dressed 'no offense' lol and the guy sang the song wrong!

Venus Forever
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:11 AM
"That woman" was excellent. Her powerful voice made a powerful statement and it sent shivers up my spine! :)
I agree. I thought she was just fine.

tennisbum79
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:16 AM
i think it was because they were expecting the williams' and w/e... i dunno

they had diana ross one year they were in the finals... i hated both of 'em... i couldn't stand the woman's singing and the way she was dressed 'no offense' lol and the guy sang the song wrong!
Please read her bio above. Maybe you can't take back your assertion.
Unless you are refering to her race, which still is not appropriate.

dansnewbeg
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Jessye Norman... she was good. I remember her performing at the Atlanta Olympic Games opening ceremonies.

Hant Hant
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:46 AM
i think the guy was singing ok

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:47 AM
who was the guy?

LenaDFan
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:57 AM
so thats how you spell "opera"!

vs1
Sep 13th, 2004, 05:33 AM
Man...Jessye Norman is a legend! How can anyone criticize her?! She is arguably the best opera singer out there...sang with every symphony worth their salt, sang every majour operatic role. She is the best of the best. :worship:

boggs570
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Man...Jessye Norman is a legend! How can anyone criticize her?! She is arguably the best opera singer out there...sang with every symphony worth their salt, sang every majour operatic role. She is the best of the best. :worship:

Yes she most certainly is a legend. You have to understand that you are dealing with a bunch of 15-17 yr old on this board and they no nothing whatsoever about Opera. Forgive them for they no not what they are saying.

geojango
Sep 13th, 2004, 12:40 PM
i thought both performances were terrible. the guy was a hack. ms norman just broke the thou-shalt-not-sing-casual-music rule. operatic voices are best suited to opera.

Vass22
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:19 PM
It was all "inovative singing style". we jsut misunderstood being the awful fans of the professional singing world. ;)

gweeny
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:23 PM
So who do you want to sing the song. Britney Spears??. :fiery:


I thought Jessye Norman did a wonderful passionate job.

The man who sang in the Men's finals was terrible. Something was just not right with his singing.

Oh yeah, and if you didn't already know this, Black people are usually better singers than white people. So the reason why the US open hired those singers was not because they were thinking that the Williams sisters were going to be the finals, thus hire a black person, rather they wanted the best singer.

Based on your reasoning, the black man who sang in the Men's finals should have been white. Cause, the US open sure as heck, knew that there was not going to be a black tennis player in the Mens finals. :wavey:

SerenaSlam
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:33 PM
the man for the Men's Final is a new Artist that just came out. He is more "Ol' Schoo" and a lot of you wouldn't know about that. you can tell he was inspired by those of say a Marvin gaye, teddy pendagrass etc. i think he was extremely nervous, being about 1 of maybe 20 Minorities in the whole stadium :eek: But his newest song is actually good. But when he sang for the mens final the "uniqeness" in his voice that i hear in the video wasn't there really.

u need to hear him again truly, b/c i agree that it wasn't all that great.

Jem
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Jessye Norman is phenomenal. Her performance at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996 was one of the event's most memorable. She is a legend, but if opera is not your taste, it's understandable why she might not appeal to you.

Mercury Rising
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Why sing that terrible song anyway? :o

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:38 PM
the man for the Men's Final is a new Artist that just came out. He is more "Ol' Schoo" and a lot of you wouldn't know about that. you can tell he was inspired by those of say a Marvin gaye, teddy pendagrass etc. i think he was extremely nervous, being about 1 of maybe 20 Minorities in the whole stadium :eek: But his newest song is actually good. But when he sang for the mens final the "uniqeness" in his voice that i hear in the video wasn't there really.

u need to hear him again truly, b/c i agree that it wasn't all that great.
Gee Whiz what was his name??? You would think it was a national secret...:eek:

Was it Anthony Hamilton or Ricky Fante (my guesses based on your descriptions)

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:42 PM
So who do you want to sing the song. Britney Spears??. :fiery:


I thought Jessye Norman did a wonderful passionate job.

The man who sang in the Men's finals was terrible. Something was just not right with his singing.

Oh yeah, and if you didn't already know this, Black people are usually better singers than white people. So the reason why the US open hired those singers was not because they were thinking that the Williams sisters were going to be the finals, thus hire a black person, rather they wanted the best singer.

Based on your reasoning, the black man who sang in the Men's finals should have been white. Cause, the US open sure as heck, knew that there was not going to be a black tennis player in the Mens finals. :wavey:
whoa....:eek: Black singers are usually better than white singers? :confused:

I don't think it has to do with White or Black....I think it has to do with style. If you like a certain style then you would think those singers are the best. If you like another style say classical then you will think another group is the best singers..

Mercredi
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Ricky Fante was the guys name and he wasn't great.
The woman was phenomenal.

viele
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:44 PM
His name is Ricky Fante and if you ask any BLACK person they'll tell you that he is one of the best new vocalist on the music scene. But I don't expect any of YOU to know that. What is wrong with you people. Tennis fans always try to defend themselves against being racist, or at least prejuidiced, anytime the subject comes up. But somehow, someway race gets tossed into a topic that should be completely neutral. So what if the singers were both Black? They're Americans too or did we suddenly forget that! For heaven's sake!!

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:48 PM
His name is Ricky Fante and if you ask any BLACK person they'll tell you that he is one of the best new vocalist on the music scene. But I don't expect any of YOU to know that. What is wrong with you people. Tennis fans always try to defend themselves against being racist, or at least prejuidiced, anytime the subject comes up. But somehow, someway race gets tossed into a topic that should be completely neutral. So what if the singers were both Black? They're Americans too or did we suddenly forget that! For heaven's sake!!You mean I missed Ricky Fante'?????????????? :bigcry: :tears: :bigcry: :rain:

His album is da bomb!!!!! However, Harloo clued me in to him not being the best singer live....

Torture me some more and let me know what song he sang? :( I'll really be through if you say 'why'. ;)

viele
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:51 PM
You mean I missed Ricky Fante'?????????????? :bigcry: :tears: :bigcry: :rain:

His album is da bomb!!!!! However, Harloo clued me in to him not being the best singer live....

Torture me some more and let me know what song he sang? :( I'll really be through if you say 'why'. ;)

I will admit he didn't sound his best singing God Bless America but I still understand how he and Jessie Norman performing could cause such outrage.

SerenaSlam
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:52 PM
You mean I missed Ricky Fante'?????????????? :bigcry: :tears: :bigcry: :rain:

His album is da bomb!!!!! However, Harloo clued me in to him not being the best singer live....

Torture me some more and let me know what song he sang? :( I'll really be through if you say 'why'. ;)
yeah his album is OC! Its a culture thing, and a lot of "white's" need to understand that.

Its how you are brought up. Let me give a good example. I just found out last week, who Cher was. And I am a 20 year old blk male that has grown up in Illinois all of my life. A lot of people were shoked. But honestly I had no clue who she was. She was in town doing a fairwell concert or whatever. Im the only blk male working in the "clerical" department of my job right now, and when i asked all of the white people who she was, they were shocked.

But i threw a loop at them, and asked if the new people like Mo'Nique, and Jamie Foxx, and Free & AJ (BET 106 & Park) etc, and they didn't know who these people were. So really people should learn to appreciate other cultures and how one was brought up. I wish a average white male would spend about a month w/ a Black Family, they would be shocked and learn so much its ridiculous.

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I will admit he didn't sound his best singing God Bless America but I still understand how he and Jessie Norman performing could cause such outrage.
Oh he sang God Bless America...did he sing it Ray Charles style?

You don't want to know why their performances are causing outrage. ;)

azza
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:56 PM
How did he stuff up the song god bless America?

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:56 PM
yeah his album is OC! Its a culture thing, and a lot of "white's" need to understand that.

Its how you are brought up. Let me give a good example. I just found out last week, who Cher was. And I am a 20 year old blk male that has grown up in Illinois all of my life. A lot of people were shoked. But honestly I had no clue who she was. She was in town doing a fairwell concert or whatever. Im the only blk male working in the "clerical" department of my job right now, and when i asked all of the white people who she was, they were shocked.

But i threw a loop at them, and asked if the new people like Mo'Nique, and Jamie Foxx, and Free & AJ (BET 106 & Park) etc, and they didn't know who these people were. So really people should learn to appreciate other cultures and how one was brought up. I wish a average white male would spend about a month w/ a Black Family, they would be shocked and learn so much its ridiculous.
Yeah and there's a difference in knowledge based on age like say me cause for the life of me I can't figure out what "oc" stands for...:lol:

SerenaSlam
Sep 13th, 2004, 03:57 PM
Yeah and there's a difference in knowledge based on age like say me cause for the life of me I can't figure out what "oc" stands for...:lol:
Off the Chain :laughoutloud:

Chrissie-fan
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:08 PM
I don't know....Depends on the type of music I think. Most good Country,Rock and Pop singers are white. Most good Soul,Blues and Jazz singers are black. But there are plenty of exceptions to the rule of course. There aren't that many great black Operatic sopranos though. Jessye Norman,Kathleen Battle,Barbara Hendricks,Leontyne Price,Shirley Verrett and probably a couple of others that slip my mind right now,but not THAT many. I don't think it has anything to do with natural ability really,but more with cultural heritage.

Gaston


Oh yeah, and if you didn't already know this, Black people are usually better singers than white people.

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Off the Chain :laughoutloud:
whewwwww, I'm not as old as I think...:p I thought about "off the chain" but then I thought you would have a 't' in the acronym. :D

SerenaSlam
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I don't know....Depends on the type of music I think. Most good Country,Rock and Pop singers are white. Most good Soul,Blues and Jazz singers are black. But there are plenty of exceptions to the rule of course. There aren't that many great black Operatic sopranos though. Jessye Norman,Kathleen Battle,Barbara Hendricks,Leontyne Price,Shirley Verrett and probably a couple of others that slip my mind right now,but not THAT many. I don't think it has anything to do with natural ability really,but more with cultural heritage.

Gaston
i think what they are trying to say is (and this is my opinion too) blk people can hold a "note" better "tune" than the majority of a white person. i also think that "singing" comes more natural to blacks than it does to whties, just like Athletcis in my opinion comes more natural to blacks than whites.

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:19 PM
i think what they are trying to say is (and this is my opinion too) blk people can hold a "note" better "tune" than the majority of a white person. i also think that "singing" comes more natural to blacks than it does to whties, just like Athletcis in my opinion comes more natural to blacks than whites.I can't agree with that but I will say that things like being a soul singer or a country singer does have to do with your heritage and culture. I mean the best singers grew up in an atmosphere where this music is nurtured and have a prominate position, ie they grow up with the music, it's a part of their life not just something they like to listen to. That's why when people sing those genre's but it's not a part of their life for most of their life they can mimic the sound but to me it lacks innateness...It's not something that is measurable, imho.

aliceb
Sep 13th, 2004, 04:29 PM
Jessye Norman is a fantastic singer, and she's very popular in France and amongst Gay Men (sorry to generalise but it's true, guess it must be the whole 'diva' thing)

M2k
Sep 13th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Jessye Norman is a fantastic singer, and she's very popular in France and amongst Gay Men (sorry to generalise but it's true, guess it must be the whole 'diva' thing)
I hate to fall into a stereotype :o but... Jessye is FAB :smoke:and I'm gay! loved her dress and all :p as for whoever said that Rick (??) was talented ---> :help: :unsure: :silly:

darrinbaker00
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:48 PM
How did he stuff up the song god bless America?
No offense to Ricky Fante, but compared to Ray Charles, everyone else's rendition of "God Bless America" falls short.

Jakeev
Sep 13th, 2004, 06:58 PM
i think what they are trying to say is (and this is my opinion too) blk people can hold a "note" better "tune" than the majority of a white person. i also think that "singing" comes more natural to blacks than it does to whties, just like Athletcis in my opinion comes more natural to blacks than whites.

I don't think there is any verifiable proof that one race is better than holding a note than another. Either you got the pipes or you don't. The same goes with Athletics.

And although Ms. Norman is with-out-a-doubt a great opera singer, she was not great on Saturday night at all.

Her performance was quite frankly overwrought for the occasion and it forced me to change the station cause I just could not stomach her anymore.

faboozadoo15
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:14 PM
i don't think you guys get it... i wasn't disappointed because the man was black... i was disappointed because he sang the same (first verse) three times out of tune, then stanted humming, threw in the word "mountains" right before the end really randomely, and then BOMBED the final note that had no lead up. he tanked a song that is a great sense of pride for a lot of people, and people are upset. he was a disgrace.

the woman; however, was excellent :worship: so much feeling, i loved it.

and :haha: about the Mo'nique comparison to cher...
that's like a white person comparing nancy sinatra to diana ross :tape:

faboozadoo15
Sep 13th, 2004, 08:16 PM
No offense to Ricky Fante, but compared to Ray Charles, everyone else's rendition of "God Bless America" falls short.
ricky fante is just lucky there are people dumb enough to compare him to ray charles.

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 09:30 PM
ricky fante is just lucky there are people dumb enough to compare him to ray charles.
who compared him to Ray charles? :confused:

The question was asked was his rendition ray charlesesque meaning did he do a soul version of God Bless America which isn't the normal version. :rolleyes:

For your information Ricky Fante' isn't in Ray Charle's style he's much more in a Sam Cooke style or Jackie Wilson. That's doesn't mean he's as talented or less talented that's just the style he performs in.

His album is the absolute bomb that's a fact.

darrinbaker00
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:39 PM
who compared him to Ray charles? :confused:

The question was asked was his rendition ray charlesesque meaning did he do a soul version of God Bless America which isn't the normal version. :rolleyes:

For your information Ricky Fante' isn't in Ray Charle's style he's much more in a Sam Cooke style or Jackie Wilson. That's doesn't mean he's as talented or less talented that's just the style he performs in.

His album is the absolute bomb that's a fact.
Please allow me to explain myself, Fair Maiden. I've never heard Ricky Fante' sing, so if you say he's good, then he's good. My point is that Ray Charles' rendition of "God Bless America" is SO good, no one SHOULD be allowed to do that song in public ever again, no matter how good they are. To be fair, I also feel the same way about anyone besides Art Garfunkel singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water." ;)

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Please allow me to explain myself, Fair Maiden. I've never heard Ricky Fante' sing, so if you say he's good, then he's good. My point is that Ray Charles' rendition of "God Bless America" is SO good, no one SHOULD be allowed to do that song in public ever again, no matter how good they are. To be fair, I also feel the same way about anyone besides Art Garfunkel singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water." ;)Haha, no need to explain....I understand that's what you meant and I actually agree with that sentiment considering Ray Charles is one of my absolute favorites of all time. :)

That comment was about dump people comparing him to Ray....no one compared him to Ray Charles...Ray Charles is uncomparable....I was just trying to put a label on the type of version he did. I didn't see the performance but I know his style so I asked did he try to sing it like Brotha Ray Since he's the only one I know that sings a 'soul' version. :D

darrinbaker00
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:46 PM
Haha, no need to explain....I understand that's what you meant and I actually agree with that sentiment considering Ray Charles is one of my absolute favorites of all time. :)

That comment was about dump people comparing him to Ray....no one compared him to Ray Charles...Ray Charles is uncomparable....I was just trying to put a lable on the type of version he did. I didn't see the performance but I know his style so I asked did he try to sing it like Brotha Ray. :D
For his sake, I hope not.....

harloo
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:51 PM
Alright now, everyone leave Rocketta's man alone.:p :lol: I have seen Ricky Fante sing live and he is alright. I don't really know what happened to him at the US Open this year, maybe he was nervous? His performance was pretty bad, but he will rebound.

tennischick
Sep 13th, 2004, 10:51 PM
i don't think you guys get it... i wasn't disappointed because the man was black... i was disappointed because he sang the same (first verse) three times out of tune, then stanted humming, threw in the word "mountains" right before the end really randomely, and then BOMBED the final note that had no lead up. he tanked a song that is a great sense of pride for a lot of people, and people are upset. he was a disgrace.

the woman; however, was excellent :worship: so much feeling, i loved it. well said. :worship:

Rocketta
Sep 13th, 2004, 11:00 PM
Alright now, everyone leave Rocketta's man alone.:p :lol: I have seen Ricky Fante sing live and he is alright. I don't really know what happened to him at the US Open this year, maybe he was nervous? His performance was pretty bad, but he will rebound.
That's right he's pretty cute! :drool: Gay as all get out but that doesn't matter in Fantasy land....:p

btw, I don't have a problem with people saying he stunk up the joint in his live performance...He probably did. His album is still da bomb regardless. ;)

aerosolmajik
Sep 13th, 2004, 11:06 PM
what kind of person points out the race of the singers before a tennis match?
what kind of statement does that make?
:mad:

Tennis Fool
Sep 13th, 2004, 11:51 PM
I guess no one who's posted actually heard this dude "cat's cradle" this song besides me and Fabooz. :o

faboozadoo15
Sep 14th, 2004, 12:11 AM
I guess no one who's posted actually heard this dude "cat's cradle" this song besides me and Fabooz. :o
guess not... we're the unlucky few.

children cried...

jojoseph
Sep 14th, 2004, 02:12 AM
:rolleyes: :retard:
lmao!

M2k
Sep 14th, 2004, 06:27 AM
His album is the absolute bomb that's a fact.

:retard: <--- a bomb it was. lol *but not in a good way* :shrug: