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Doc
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:29 PM
And if so, will it be good for tennis?


In the past three grand Slams only one non-Russian has appeared in the Final, and a Russian has won all three of them. Myskina, Sharapova and Kuznetsova. Dementieva has managed two finals. There are five Russians in the top ten, and "lesser" Russians like Petrova have shown the ability to tackle the top Players.

The opposition, Justine, Kim, Venus, Serena, Amelie, Davenport, Capriati, seems to be either approaching retirement or carrying lots of injuries.

Williams domination seems over. Belgian domination seems to be in abeyance.

Will Russian domination continue? If not, who can stop the Russians now?

vettipooh
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:47 PM
There's so many of them in contention now. Plus about 5 more creeping up. Five in the top ten, is certainly domination,along with 3 slam titles this year.When u look at the rest of the top field, there are only 2 Belgians,4 Americans and 1 from France. Nothing compared to the Russian field. Doubt they can be stopped,now...they are on a mission,part of which has been accomplished.

Chrissie-fan
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:47 PM
I think Justine is still the best player in the world and Kim will no doubt rejoin the elite very soon. Inevitably the Williams sisters will continue to be a force to be reckoned with and I wouldn't write off Lindsay and Jenny just yet either. Lindsay has been playing some of her best tennis in years recently and Jenny came so close this time that with a little bit of luck she could have won another major. And if Mauresmo can overcome her mental problems in the big events she will win one sooner or later too. The Russian girls have many great players,but they won't have it all their own way I think.

Gaston

Spunky83
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:55 PM
No...how do you get that idea??? I don´t understand!

:lol:

Let´s see who will be the first russian ausOpen winner;)

Amorc
Sep 12th, 2004, 07:57 PM
I dont think the Russians can dominate. IMO when playing at their best JJH, Kim, Serena, Venus & Lindsay are better than all the Russians. When they are all back healthy I think the Russians may struggle to reach finals.

Volcana
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:07 PM
I don't think that 3 months makes an 'age'. I also think that once JH2 is back to her norm, she and Serena will both be good for AT LEAST a slam final apiece every year for the next four or five years. And Venus has four or five years left before her athleticism deteriorates. The question is if she can stabilize her forehand, and get her first serve percentage back where it belongs.

OTOH, there are a LOT of good Russian players. Six in the top twenty. Arguably, six players in the top ten, plus 3 of the four slam titles, IS 'domination'. Certainly no other country has more than two players under age 25 in the top twenty, so the Russian future is bright.

Kutuzova
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:09 PM
I think we are. They are all just getting better and better. And more are coming. Zvonareva should break through in the bigger tourneys. the ones that already have done well in the big tournies will continue. Chakvetadze, Douchevina, Linetskaya Kleybanova, Rodina, Koulikova, Bychkova, Kosminskaya could cont the dominance.

Diesel
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:17 PM
I just hope this becomes a new age where the players bring their best period.

Kart
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:17 PM
They've won the last three slams but they haven't really dominated the other big tournaments. So IMHO it's a bit early to talk about Russian domination although it looks inevitable.

RVD
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:36 PM
Ranking-wise, with five in the top 10, I'd say, no. That would require 6 of 10 having the top ranking.
However, there are more Russians than other nations represented in the top 10, and that is a domination of a sort, I suppose.

As far as tournament wins, it's left to be seen. To consider it a domination, I'd think that it would require there opponents to be healthy and quite a bit more consistency. Of course, that's just an opinion. :)

Shane54
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Hopefully, a good ole fashioned piece of humble pie for the Willy fans...:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

RVD
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Hopefully, a good ole fashioned piece of humble pie for the Willy fans...:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:I don't know about 'humble pie' but clearly no Williams fan can say that they are dominating tennis at the present. ;)

Shane54
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:50 PM
I don't know about 'humble pie' but clearly no Williams fan can say that they are dominating tennis at the present. ;)
Well ReeVee you are different, there were some Willy posters who were really ugly about everything(Tee Rexx) and this is a time where I think everyone can learn about humbleness and appreciate your fav's success. I can tell from your post that you are quite different and it is good to see;)

RVD
Sep 12th, 2004, 08:58 PM
Well ReeVee you are different, there were some Willy posters who were really ugly about everything(Tee Rexx) and this is a time where I think everyone can learn about humbleness and appreciate your fav's success. I can tell from your post that you are quite different and it is good to see;)Why thanks for the compliment Shane54. Just keeping it real is all. :cool:

Doc
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Good point from Kart that the Russians aren't (yet) dominating too many of the non-slam tournaments.

The big question is, can Mauresmo, Capriati, Kim, Justine and the Williamses come back at anything like their old form for any length of time? or has their era slipped past in comparison to the up-and-coming Russians?

ys
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:41 AM
Good point from Kart that the Russians aren't (yet) dominating too many of the non-slam tournaments.?
And then, who cares about non-Slam tournament. There are 5 Russian in Top 10 and each of then can only improve. There are other 5 players in Top 10, and I don't see them really improving.. The way it may go from here is not just all-Russian finals.. I am sure at some point, like Americans used to do, Russians will compete in two all-Russians semis.. It's only the beginning.. Tarpishev was saying it years ago.. Dementieva is good, Myskina is good.. Kournikova is good.. But Kuznetsova, Sharapova and Safina are in another dimension in terms of training and technique.. And there are also Bovina, Zvonareva and Petrova..

bandabou
Sep 13th, 2004, 01:54 AM
We´ll see...they´re on a pretty high right now, but one thing I found odd that is NONE of them played Lindsay close at all during the summer season, but then of course Svetlana stroke gold at the Open.

They´ve the numbers on their side as there are plenty of them...but in seeing what happens when russian plays russian, i think among themselves they´ll stop each other from having ONE really dominate.

Greenout
Sep 13th, 2004, 02:13 AM
Good point from Kart that the Russians aren't (yet) dominating too many of the non-slam tournaments.

The big question is, can Mauresmo, Capriati, Kim, Justine and the Williamses come back at anything like their old form for any length of time? or has their era slipped past in comparison to the up-and-coming Russians?



The big question is not if Amelie, Kim Justine or Serena can
comeback to old form? They've beaten Russians this year.
Look at the matches, and events. When they are on, no Russian
can beat them. Amelie during clay season and Montreal, Justine
early season hardcourt & Olympics, Serena at Nasdaq, Kim
early season prior to injury.

The question mark is more about Venus, Capster and LD. They're
the most vulnerable; but it's not even about Russian domination.
They are just having wonky matches against alot of players.

If you look beyond the Russian forest, and focus on tree's you'll
see that it's not really domination. It's more
about player head to heads.