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Loughyunijen
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:43 PM
Im am so devistated by lindsay's loss.......does anyone know what the problem was with the injury?

Andrew.
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Her problem was not so muchan injury as it was an attitude problem.

thelittlestelf
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:55 PM
She couldn't move, and all injuries discourage Lindsay. She openly admits she plays like shit when she's injured.

It's a mental part of the game impossible to be ready for, and that's what makes it so hard for Lindsay.

Loughyunijen
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:56 PM
really i dont understand.........she was struggling so much on the court?

Andrew.
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:57 PM
I have a very strong feeling that Lindsay will retire very soon. I think she'll skip the entire Euro Indoor season, play Phili or something else and then LA, then retire.

Loughyunijen
Sep 10th, 2004, 08:59 PM
so was her injury playable for say a capriati or clistjers??

i just dont it get it........she played an awesome 1st set!!!!??

foreva lindsay
Sep 10th, 2004, 09:11 PM
yeah then it must have kicked in and she didnt try on svetlanas serve and relyed on her 1st serve in her service game

Loughyunijen
Sep 10th, 2004, 09:30 PM
im soooooo gutted!

But to be fair it was only a tennis match, im sure lindsay will see it that way too.....it wasnt the end of the world.....she still has jon and her family! :)

GoDominique
Sep 10th, 2004, 10:24 PM
I definitely believe Lindsay was injured.
But I'm not 100% sure that it was the primary reason for her loss.

Maybe her injury was really really bad, and she couldn't have played the final anyway.
But maybe the injury just caused her to go back to her tanking mode which was totally gone against Venus.

Whatever it is, it's absolutely devastating. :bigcry:

Lemonskin.
Sep 11th, 2004, 12:20 AM
I can't believe it! Poor Lindsay! I think it was half injury half mentality. But in the last points it was obvious that she couldn't move.

Crazy_Fool
Sep 11th, 2004, 12:21 AM
I really believed she was injured, even in the first set she looked in some kind of pain. I don't think she tanked the match at all, she tried as much as she could, but when you can't run it makes it look as if she's not trying.

I really wanted to see her win this :sad:

Elske
Sep 11th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Her problem was not so muchan injury as it was an attitude problem. true. She forgot that she won the Australian Open with that injury.

She's had that injury for how many times now? 100 times? Miss Davenport used to be able to win matches with it but Mrs. Leach seems to have forgotten that. :(

3-0, third set.

4-4, 40-15, third set.

:fiery: :(

LUXXXAS
Sep 11th, 2004, 12:49 AM
Guys she was injured....no doubt about it...She didn;t even try to returns Sveta serves in third set...it was strange ...she cant move on this leg.......

Andrew.
Sep 11th, 2004, 02:14 AM
She also killed a ton of chances that third set. She was up 3-0, should have held for 5-4...

The interview is really weird, but almost in a positive way. She said that she doesn't not expect to be back next year. She seems to really like her chances in Australia.

Oh well. With good indoor results she'll be number one anyway, which will get her a great seeding at the Aus.

LethalLindsay
Sep 11th, 2004, 02:21 AM
Were any of you actually watching the match! She could barely move to any of the balls at all! Wake up to yourselves!

joaco
Sep 11th, 2004, 03:59 AM
i posted this elsewhere, this is what i think about the matter...

I really do think her injury problem is a mental thing. Although some of you may disagree i'm absolutely sure this last injury of Lindsay was all mentaly. I mean, she WAS injured, what i'm saying is that this could have been a mental drawback that caused her this injury. I'm quite positive this wouldn't have happened if it would've been a Tier I SF.
The most devastating thing about this loss is that there is always something with Lindsay. She was playing some of her best tennis ever, and it's like she needed something to stop her. I mean, even when she was 3-0 up she just knew she had an excuse of losing the match instead of trying winning the next three games.

Maybe i'm just talking nonsense, but all i really know is that from the last two experiencies in GS i should/will not have any more expectations on her:sad: I will keep on supporting her, yes definetely, but i honestly don't expect her to win a GS ever again. It happened practically the same as in Wimbledon, the thing is now we know Lindsay is 'capable' of winning a GS tennis-wise, but she cannot manage mentally.

Joaco:sad:

gossipcom
Sep 11th, 2004, 10:09 AM
I just saw the match....

In previous cases it has been a mental thing - today though it was definitely an injury thing.

All the commentators, articles, etc have even stated this - in the past they would have said the usual Lindsay fails to close out a big match, etc.

This Summer the one thing she has proved is that she can do it - if you do your hip flexor you basically are prevented from making the big shots etc.

I remember a few years ago Hewitt was up in a Masters match and it was in a 3rd with the chance to win the match but he couldn't go on because the pain was unbearable and causing restriction to his shot making progress.

As I said in the past it has been a mental thing, if it was a total mental thing this time around she would have lost in the 4th Round against Venus.

Also regarding Australia - I'd love to see her play here... if she wins the WTA Champs at the end of the year I really see that not happening - the good thing is she will be leading the Race and will have a few weeks off now and then decide which touranments she's playing - she's if I'm not mistaken has already committed to the Porsche Prix tournament (not to be mixed up with the WTA Champs) later this year.

All I can say is to put 22 matches in a row is a mighty damn feat - so we should think back to that achievement and also the achievement of winning the Inaugural WTA US Open Series.

Lindsayfan
Sep 11th, 2004, 12:15 PM
Were any of you actually watching the match! She could barely move to any of the balls at all! Wake up to yourselves!
totally agree! the worse thing is that ppl that right now r blaming lindsay, consider themselves lindsay fans. :rolleyes: sorry guys, but u r blaming her for faults she hasnt. she could barely walk and u speak about her mentality. her fragility is just a 'cliché', nothing more.

foreva lindsay
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:28 PM
true. She forgot that she won the Australian Open with that injury.

She's had that injury for how many times now? 100 times? Miss Davenport used to be able to win matches with it but Mrs. Leach seems to have forgotten that. :(

3-0, third set.

4-4, 40-15, third set.

:fiery: :(

I agree...shes gotta remember that otherwise she's just gonna keep losing if she gets injured :rolleyes:

foreva lindsay
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:29 PM
totally agree! the worse thing is that ppl that right now r blaming lindsay, consider themselves lindsay fans. :rolleyes: sorry guys, but u r blaming her for faults she hasnt. she could barely walk and u speak about her mentality. her fragility is just a 'cliché', nothing more.

she could walk/run more in the 3rd set... but she did go mentally, you could see that

Loughyunijen
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:31 PM
the fact that she was crying in teh changeovers completely proves that her mental state towards the game had gone....not nce to see when ur lindsay fans!

Lindsayfan
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:37 PM
she could walk/run more in the 3rd set... but she did go mentally, you could see that
it's false..she was just trying to run without success. there is a difference between try something and do something. how can you be soo biased vs her?
or you love her only when she wins and when she loses, then u blame her?

Loughyunijen
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:47 PM
it's false..she was just trying to run without success. there is a difference between try something and do something. how can you be soo biased vs her?
or you love her only when she wins and when she loses, then u blame her?


I dont think that is the case at all , but even if we are lindsay fans , you have to be critical of her performances both on the positive and on the negative side.....or eles there wouldnt be a proper evaluation of the match. Only Lindsay will know exactley what happened out there yesterday......but you have to admit .....the fact that she was crying in the changeovers.....could possibly be a sign that her mental strength had decreased?!

I do believe that there was a bit of both in this match, im not disputing that she wasnt injured, because i truely believe she was.....howver the extent of the injury no one will know except linds!

gossipcom
Sep 11th, 2004, 01:53 PM
Look at this side of the ledger:

The fact she was crying at changeovers might also have been due to she was in absolute pain?

Have you ever tried sitting down when you've done a hammy, back or hip injury?

I managed to do my hammy at a Swans match last night - smartie here stepped over a seat - for the rest of the time I found it was easier standing than sitting.

Just looking at both sides - For the last 3 months she has shown us that the mental strength has been there - so I don't think you can totally blame it on the mental state this time around.

Loughyunijen
Sep 11th, 2004, 02:05 PM
true.....but only she will know why she was crying.....injury pain...or thoguh of not wining US Open......but you could say that "professionally" you wouldnt cry on the big stage....not in so much view anyway.

Yeah i ruptured the ligaments in my knee when i was playing an under 17 hocky game for engalnd in france........some nutter took me out with there stick!........i carried on playing for the rest of the match....and yeah i as in pain......but i caried on as it was a huge match for us. I, not saying that i was right, i played on...bla bla....but we did win in the end and it was well worth it......

I look at it this way......if you are capable of staying on the pitch/court/field when you are injured......then you have to question how bad the injury actualy is. I think more so for tennis as its a complete individual game.....where as in hocky being a team game.......you have others to rely on.......but in tennis only yourself!

well it turned out that i made the injury worse by playing on....but i was in the moment!

gossipcom
Sep 11th, 2004, 02:21 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2004-09-10/200409101094846942496.html

thelittlestelf
Sep 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Well the thing with Lindsay is when she is injured she thinks about it and it gets to her head.

She really needs to be feeling 100 % to play well.

Jan
Sep 11th, 2004, 03:58 PM
totally agree! the worse thing is that ppl that right now r blaming lindsay, consider themselves lindsay fans. :rolleyes: sorry guys, but u r blaming her for faults she hasnt. she could barely walk and u speak about her mentality. her fragility is just a 'cliché', nothing more.

I am with you totally on this. It was definitely the injury not her mentality. She started the match with a wrap on high up on her leg. She won the first set beautifully but if you looked at her facial expressions towards the end of the first set you can tell things were not right then.

I just can't believe her luck. That match was hers for the taking apart from the injury getting worse the longer she played. I am devastated for her and for her fans.

I think she wil delay her decision about retiring until the end of the year as she originally said. I have a feeling we shall see her playing next year but I do think we should support her all we can and remarks about tanking it and her mentality in the semis, to me is very cruel and they should not have been made at all.:mad: :sad:

Lindsayfan
Sep 11th, 2004, 10:43 PM
I have a feeling we shall see her playing next year but I do think we should support her all we can and remarks about tanking it and her mentality in the semis, to me is very cruel and they should not have been made at all.:mad: :sad:
ditto! she doesnt deserve her fans' spite...specially after such a great summer she had :sad: