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Orlandofanz
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:12 AM
They only have to play best out of three when men have to play best out of five. :)

tennisiscool
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:14 AM
OMG really ? I didn't know that.:) Thanks for telling us , ignorant fools, such valuable info :)

Ice Ice Baby
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:33 AM
No shit, Sherlock.

esquímaux
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:37 AM
ignorant fools, such valuable info :)
Pot calling the kettle? :shrug:

Doraemon
Sep 5th, 2004, 07:11 AM
Why is it such an ignorant question? If it is, why have ppl been discussing it over n over again? I think thinking of this question as dumb is far dumber.
And whoever badrepped the starter of the thread whose repuation is already in fire after a mere debut post should know your just abusing your fake reputation which is totally the other way around in real life.

Lemonskin.
Sep 5th, 2004, 07:52 AM
I good repped him ^_^... felt sorry for the poor bloke

*kaz*
Sep 5th, 2004, 11:56 AM
I hate 5 setters. They go on forever. I think thats why I don't like mens tennis as much. Partly because I never see it on tv because i don't have sky sports which means you don't really get a chance to like any of the players. And then every time I do see a mens match it lasts forever and you have to go out or do something and you never see the end of it.

Martian Willow
Sep 5th, 2004, 12:06 PM
...and 100 metre runners have it easier than marathon runners...and high jumpers have it easier than pole vaulters... :)

Greenout
Sep 5th, 2004, 12:10 PM
:zzz: Dreaming of BOSS kissing trophy cup next Saturday.

Princess Fiona
Sep 5th, 2004, 12:24 PM
I hate 5 setters. They go on forever. I think thats why I don't like mens tennis as much. Partly because I never see it on tv because i don't have sky sports which means you don't really get a chance to like any of the players. And then every time I do see a mens match it lasts forever and you have to go out or do something and you never see the end of it.
I'm pretty much the same with 5 setters... :) I have such AWFUL concentration. I am 'Channel Flipper' extraordinaire... :o ;) I do like men's tennis but I don't really watch it so much.

(Women have it easier? Hmmm... I don't know - what about what a woman goes through physically and emotionally every month? I do not really know how to word this!! *squeak* ;) That is not always easy... *shakes head* ;) )

Greenout
Sep 5th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I'm pretty much the same with 5 setters... :) I have such AWFUL concentration. I am 'Channel Flipper' extraordinaire... :o ;) I do like men's tennis but I don't really watch it so much.

(Women have it easier? Hmmm... I don't know - what about what a woman goes through physically and emotionally every month? I do not really know how to word this!! *squeak* ;) That is not always easy... *shakes head* ;) )

I hate 5 hour 5 setters. The whole 5 set thing has got nothing to
do with modern tennis or this world we live in now.

Originally it was a 5 setter because tennis was for the rich
upper class who didn't hold jobs and could spend the entire day
watching a match. Same like cricket and golf, it's leisure sports
for the rich to kill time.

Tennis is a modern pro sport, people don't have the time to
spend 5 hours sitting watching a match in the sun.

Personally I think it should be 5 setters for the men only in
the semi finals and final. I think the women could try 1 best
of 5 set in the finals. Remember they did that once at the
WTA championships with LD -vs- Hingis.

vutt
Sep 5th, 2004, 12:38 PM
(Women have it easier? Hmmm... I don't know - what about what a woman goes through physically and emotionally every month? I do not really know how to word this!! *squeak* ;) That is not always easy... *shakes head* ;) ) I hope it does not sound like me trying to turn into devil's advocate here:angel:, but it seems that women marathon runners for example do not have similar problems or pole vaulters or pick almost any athletic competition.

relax
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:05 PM
women should not be paid as much etc....it is of course not the women's fault that the men's circuit is more competitive....but men and women are both doing the same sport but men simply have to win more sets
a professional player from denmark argued that marathon runners don't get paid more than other athletes and therefore men should not get more
howver, marathon running and 100m running are two different events
whereas men's and women's tennis are the same sport


as for the five sets - well that's what makes a slam special and sets higher demands for the male players' stamina and physique
however, I think that by playing just three sets and then playing a match every day ( like the olympics) a tournament would set the same high requirements for stamina etc
so my suggestion slams should be played in 10 days - one match every day and only three sets

MinnyGophers
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:17 PM
five setters are just plain boring to the average audience. Most people don't sit around for 5 hours in front of the TV, it gets really tiring, unless you are a huge fan of one of the players. In my opinion, this is why tennis isn't as popular as other sports: it's way too long ( for men)

Joana
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:26 PM
This is such an original thread.

Joana
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Wow, is this the first time someone became infamous around these parts after just one post? :eek:

Julian
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:39 PM
lol For me if I kno a match has gone 5 sets then I will just watch the 5th set on t.v..a LONG match..nope..wont do it for me I have to change the channel lol

BTW Men only play 5 setters mostly in Grand slams and they still get more prize money when they play tournaments where they only have to win in 2 sets like women..whenever its like that then I think the prize money should be equal. But if its 5 sets..then the men should be paid more

I dont think it will be a good idea for women to play 5 sets anyway because even some of their 3 setters go 3 hours and more! And since their stamina is not as good as the mens 5 setters will be a BAD idea..well besides maybe the final (i.e. how the final end championships used to be played)

Martian Willow
Sep 5th, 2004, 01:58 PM
howver, marathon running and 100m running are two different events

...different in what way...? :)

stenen
Sep 5th, 2004, 02:05 PM
women should not be paid as much etc....it is of course not the women's fault that the men's circuit is more competitive


In what way do you think men's circuit is more competitive? What is a measure for something being more competitive than the other?

Princess Fiona
Sep 5th, 2004, 02:06 PM
I hate 5 hour 5 setters. The whole 5 set thing has got nothing to
do with modern tennis or this world we live in now.

Originally it was a 5 setter because tennis was for the rich
upper class who didn't hold jobs and could spend the entire day
watching a match. Same like cricket and golf, it's leisure sports
for the rich to kill time.

Tennis is a modern pro sport, people don't have the time to
spend 5 hours sitting watching a match in the sun.

Personally I think it should be 5 setters for the men only in
the semi finals and final. I think the women could try 1 best
of 5 set in the finals. Remember they did that once at the
WTA championships with LD -vs- Hingis.
I remember that... :) I used to like the 5 set finals in the WTA championships!! I seem to remember *vague memory* :o ;) (my memory is awful sometimes!! :sad: ;) ) that the WTA championships 5 set final was axed because the players did not want to play such a match at the end of the year... Maybe I am incorrect. Hmmm. But I would like to see the women's 5 set match come somewhere into the schedule again... (I wonder what would have happened if the Grand Slam finals this year had been best of five... *wondering* :) Hmmmm... )

Men's 5 set matches... It gets me a little bit sometimes that these matches are thought to be 'superior' because they are best of 5 sets. Sure, the stamina is fantastic and there are some classic matches (I have lots of respect for men's tennis, for sure!! [/Justine speak] ;) ) but there are also best of 5 set matches in which the quality is not so great... And this is my opinion *getting on my soapbox* ;) but I just feel like flinging things at the TV screen when the equal prize money issue comes up on TV and we hear some of the arguments as to why women shouldn't get equal pay... Aaargh!! :banghead: ;)

I hope it does not sound like me trying to turn into devil's advocate here:angel:, but it seems that women marathon runners for example do not have similar problems or pole vaulters or pick almost any athletic competition.
:) I sometimes wonder how menstruation affects sportswomen... I wonder if unexpected/bad losses can ever be explained in this way because the female was suffering... *thinking* :)

fammmmedspin
Sep 5th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Watching the abysmal Henman go on for hours winning against some unknown in 5 sets when I could have watched Elena B or Chanda is pretty clear evidence of the need for 3 set matches for Men. if i wanted to watch 3 or 4 hour sports matches I would watch 2 Marathons back to back or 2-3 football matches in a row .5 sets dates from a time with no TV coverage, play at cricket pace, minimal effort and the idle rich having nothing else to do. Its golf on a small green. In henman's case I would be very happy with a one set match.

fammmmedspin
Sep 5th, 2004, 03:09 PM
I remember that... :) I used to like the 5 set finals in the WTA championships!! I seem to remember *vague memory* :o ;) (my memory is awful sometimes!! :sad: ;) ) that the WTA championships 5 set final was axed because the players did not want to play such a match at the end of the year... Maybe I am incorrect. Hmmm. But I would like to see the women's 5 set match come somewhere into the schedule again... (I wonder what would have happened if the Grand Slam finals this year had been best of five... *wondering* :) Hmmmm... )

* :)
I can't remember the other 5 setter but I do remember Anke v Steffi at the YEC. Steffi played like the World's best player one set, then Anke did the next and in the end it was Steffi's turn and anke was worn out. Its as if you just get so tired you give the next set away and once you have recovered you find your opponent is worn out. Not sure if it tells you much other than who cramps first. Marathons last half the time.

5 setters at the moment would produce interesting winners though. Justine fights through pain to win long 3 setters - could she manage 5 at all? Lindsay's knee? Are Serena and Venus capable of a long match? would Momo's back last? would Jen run out of adrenaline or be thrown out for abuse trying to get it flowing?

Might favour a fit Kim or a rested Myskina who both could stay out there all day or if, they made it, Elena D, Francesca or Patty who give the impression they could last the distance pretty well too.

Paneru
Sep 5th, 2004, 03:29 PM
They only have to play best out of three when men have to play best out of five. :)

Not necessarily! ;)

The men also have the luxury of slouching off in the first
two sets and being able to still be in it and win it in five
where as the ladies don't! :wavey:

Also, their supposed to be big strong "men",
so get your ass out there and work! :lol:

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 5th, 2004, 03:45 PM
I hate 5 hour 5 setters. The whole 5 set thing has got nothing to
do with modern tennis or this world we live in now.

Originally it was a 5 setter because tennis was for the rich
upper class who didn't hold jobs and could spend the entire day
watching a match. Same like cricket and golf, it's leisure sports
for the rich to kill time.

Tennis is a modern pro sport, people don't have the time to
spend 5 hours sitting watching a match in the sun.

Personally I think it should be 5 setters for the men only in
the semi finals and final. I think the women could try 1 best
of 5 set in the finals. Remember they did that once at the
WTA championships with LD -vs- Hingis.
5 setters is the way, or else TMS would be twice as hard to win as a slam.
if it were 3 sets, the slams wouldnt last 2 weeks either.

talking about lesiure kill.............. how on earth does an NFL game that lasts for 60 mins go on for 4 hrs :rolleyes:
talk about boredom

Princess Fiona
Sep 5th, 2004, 04:06 PM
I can't remember the other 5 setter but I do remember Anke v Steffi at the YEC. Steffi played like the World's best player one set, then Anke did the next and in the end it was Steffi's turn and anke was worn out. Its as if you just get so tired you give the next set away and once you have recovered you find your opponent is worn out. Not sure if it tells you much other than who cramps first. Marathons last half the time.

5 setters at the moment would produce interesting winners though. Justine fights through pain to win long 3 setters - could she manage 5 at all? Lindsay's knee? Are Serena and Venus capable of a long match? would Momo's back last? would Jen run out of adrenaline or be thrown out for abuse trying to get it flowing?

Might favour a fit Kim or a rested Myskina who both could stay out there all day or if, they made it, Elena D, Francesca or Patty who give the impression they could last the distance pretty well too.
Anke vs. Steffi!! Anke was my favourite player at the time (Anke was my favourite player for years and years, until she retired... ). Who else... I think Seles and Sabatini played a 5 set match at the YEC and Steffi and Martina Hingis too... *testing memory* *ouch* ;)

I remember Anke beating Martina H in 5 sets in the final of an exhibition tournament in Germany...

I also wonder how the GS finals of this year would have turned out if they had been 5 set matches: Justine vs. Kim in Australia, Nastya vs. Elena D in Paris, Maria vs. Serena in Wimbledon... Hmmm...

DarkCore
Sep 5th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Women's tennis is exciting because of the personalities. In terms of pure tennis, though, I'd say that it's quite...sloppy? compared to men's tennis. Just so, so many unenforced errors. An average grand slam generates at least six or so dramatic, high-quality 5-setters on the men's side. Last night's match between Sarge & Paul-Henri was a good example. On the women's side you get maybe two or three such matches a YEAR (eg, 2003 USOpen semi between Capriati & Henin).