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mr dude
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:02 AM
shouldn't the Wta get some black announcers, or some younger ppl that actually know what's going on out there?

I think the announcers now are too corny and old.

Rocketta
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:07 AM
damn, are you saying Malivai isn't black? :eek: :eek: :eek:

hmm, on 2nd thought.....;)

No just j/k, I think Malivai is totally :drool:

speaking of I found this website for a charity of his....Malivai...:worship:

http://www.malwashington.com/

cheesestix
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:10 AM
Yeah, what about Mal Washington?

Last time I remember seeing him was at the AO 2003, I believe.

But I thought he was pretty good.

moon
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:10 AM
they tried out Zina Garrison a couple of years ago. she wasn't so hot.
But Chanda (once she retires) should definitely give it a go. She was great!

Jarrett
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:11 AM
Why just black commentators?

But anyway, I don't want new commentators. I actually like the current ones we have. As for "younger" ones. Uh, no. Jim C. is younger and I can't STAND him. Maybe some younger women though. I loved listening to Martina Hingis @ Wimby. She had some great stories to tell.

P.S. I can't stand Mal either. Well maybe it isn't his fault. I just hate how they focus on him when he is reporting on a match. They usualy show a head shot and he just talks for a while about crap. I mean come on. Show the people actually playing. Not the commentators talking about them.

Black Mamba.
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Mal is good, he is one of the few commentators who actually comments on the match without hating on players.

Jarrett
Sep 5th, 2004, 05:17 AM
What do you meaning by "hating?" Examples please.

Shenay La Soul
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:02 AM
What do you meaning by "hating?" Examples please.

When commentators are "hating" is when they subtly or not so subtly have something against particular players and do a piss poor job of hiding this dislike. For example McEnroe has a strained relationship with the Williams sisters and he doesn't always successfully mask his ill feelings towards them. In a match Serena could be playing exceptionally well but McEnroe will downplay it in favor of her opponent and make up some excuses for Serena's lead in the match.

Volcana
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:12 AM
I fairly certain that if Serena wants that gig, she'll get a shot at it. I have a feeling we won't see much of Venus on camera when her career is over. Unless she's designing other player's clothes or something. She just never quite looks like she ENJOYS being on camera. She looks like she's putting up with it with good grace, and doesn't hold it against anyone personally. Not exactly the same as enthusiasm.

FaceyFacem
Sep 5th, 2004, 07:49 AM
zina used to, not sure why not anymore, but i remember hearing her back in the day

Wenddy
Sep 5th, 2004, 08:04 AM
Zina is no good. She sucks up. and her voice is very very anoying. I like Corina and Katrina. they are so much better in terms of talking about the game and not the players.

Doraemon
Sep 5th, 2004, 08:06 AM
I think they should put SerenaSlam on the job. He would jump all over.

Jeff
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:14 AM
I remember Chanda Rubin doing some guest commentating, and she did a pretty good job.

samn
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:51 AM
they tried out Zina Garrison a couple of years ago. she wasn't so hot.
But Chanda (once she retires) should definitely give it a go. She was great!

I've never heard Rubin commentate, so it'd be interesting to see what she has to say. Speaking of other black players who now commentate, I find the trio of Mal Washington, Zina Garrison, and Lori McNeil quite awful. Ok, not as bad as Chris Evert or Barry Mackay, but quite bad indeed! Lori and Zina are especially bad in that neither of them shows any spontaneity. Zina always sounded like she was reading off a teleprompter.

Anyone know what Katrina Adams is like?

WTA_freak
Sep 5th, 2004, 11:10 AM
I wonder if it's American thing, because I have not seen classic "hate" in Eurosport. Yes, they could be little bit biased, like in case of Daniela vs. Patty recently, but no no hate...

raquel
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Anyone know what Katrina Adams is like?
Katrina is pretty good. She is on the UK Sky's Interactive coverage if you have that? She is doing the commentary for an American network but for the Interactive courts Sky just use the American commentary.

Katrina is good at coming up with facts about players but if she has a favourite she is pretty open about it. Like last night during Amy v Sveta she was talking about how she played on the tour with Amy and was it was so great to see Amy playing so well in her 30s and was just really loud and excited when Amy hit a winner.

Veegeta
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:36 PM
When commentators are "hating" is when they subtly or not so subtly have something against particular players and do a piss poor job of hiding this dislike. For example McEnroe has a strained relationship with the Williams sisters and he doesn't always successfully mask his ill feelings towards them. In a match Serena could be playing exceptionally well but McEnroe will downplay it in favor of her opponent and make up some excuses for Serena's lead in the match.

Didn't McEnroe choose Serena to be the winner at Wimby at the beginning of that tourny?

Yaanei
Sep 5th, 2004, 08:48 PM
Espn has to have staff that reflects society. Most of the commetators are annoying and unprofessional. Also, at present only one style of commentary is used. This is why it is important to employ people with different backgrounds, religions to get a rounder base.

cartmancop
Sep 5th, 2004, 08:52 PM
I agree that Chanda did a great job at Wimbledon one year.

I do think some younger commentators should be brought in just to add some variety instead of a bunch of old people complaining about how in their day the played 'Real Tennis' as opposed to whatever the current players are supposedly playing.

WtaTour4Ever
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:06 PM
There is a black chick on the Tennis channel ... not sure of her name but she is pretty good.

Stefwhit
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:07 PM
WE DON'T NEED BLACK COMMENTATORS- what we need is another voice in the booth offering a different perspective, the color of that said person isn't relevant. I like the idea of someone younger, but again, the main thing needed is some balance. I don't think we need to pretend like the answers lie in objectivity, because no one is completely objective. The commentators we have (in the States) have picked their sides and those of us who follow tennis pretty much know where they stand- and it really spills over in the things they say. We just need someone to challenge them and someone to offer a different perspective. The thoughts and sentiments of Serena and Venus fans are never expressed and that's a shame- agree or disagree, we should all be able to get a balanced play by play account.

sartrista7
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:29 PM
shouldn't the Wta get some black announcers, or some younger ppl that actually know what's going on out there?

I think the announcers now are too corny and old.

Why do you equate black announcers with younger people who know what's going on?

The reason, for those who need it spelt out to them, that Venus and Serena are maybe not given as many compliments as some of you would like is that it is not in anyone's interests to paint a picture of domination on the WTA. TV coverage is meant to be selling the WTA as a product, and it would be stupid for the commentators to say things like "Top Player X is simply too good, the other girl doesn't have the skill to do anything to her". So they spin it to make the lower-ranked player look good, and the tour more attractive. I would have thought this was obvious, but there you go.

bobcat
Sep 5th, 2004, 09:49 PM
As far as the women's game goes, I think Hingis and Navratilova are good as far as actually dissecting the players' strengths and weapons objectively. McEnroe and Carillo don't really know much about women's tennis. Mary still thinks Venus and Serena are the same person.:rolleyes:

Volcana
Sep 5th, 2004, 10:35 PM
What we need is somebody with Vic Braden's ability to break down what's happening technically, in a way the average fan can understand. Somebody who doesn't just SAY 'building points', but rather explains HOW a point is built, and what the palyers are trying to set up when they serve to the left or right side of the box.

I have no idea if Paola Suarez can EXPALIN that, bt I know she understands it.

And, as far as the USA is concerned, somebody who has 'fluid' english. It doesn't need to be unaccented. It fact, it might be better id it was. But somebody who uses English easily. I heard an interview with Federer, and he was downright comfy with English. At least he SOUNDED like he was.

Hingis wasn't quite there, language wise.
I'm sure Monica would have long since had a chance, if she wanted it.
I'm sure Lindsay will get a chance, if she wants it.
I'd certainly expect Chanda to be able to.

Rtael
Sep 5th, 2004, 10:39 PM
There is a black chick on the Tennis channel ... not sure of her name but she is pretty good.

That's Katrina....and she is HORRIBLE. Her and Mal W. both suck eggs as commentators. Give me Mary C. any day! She's about the only commentator that I like.

PointBlank
Sep 5th, 2004, 10:39 PM
Didnt Mal do a match in the hardcourt season?

I thought I remember him :shrug:

anyways..Whys it always race on here :rolleyes:

samn
Sep 5th, 2004, 10:56 PM
I heard an interview with Federer, and he was downright comfy with English. At least he SOUNDED like he was.



Probably because his mother is South African, and English was the first language he learned to speak as a child.

ktwtennis
Sep 6th, 2004, 01:44 AM
[QUOTE=Jarrett]Why just black commentators?[QUOTE]Exactly...why not Asian or Spanish????

ico4498
Sep 6th, 2004, 01:47 AM
WE DON'T NEED BLACK COMMENTATORS- what we need is another voice in the booth offering a different perspective, the color of that said person isn't relevant. I like the idea of someone younger, but again, the main thing needed is some balance. I don't think we need to pretend like the answers lie in objectivity, because no one is completely objective. The commentators we have (in the States) have picked their sides and those of us who follow tennis pretty much know where they stand- and it really spills over in the things they say. We just need someone to challenge them and someone to offer a different perspective. The thoughts and sentiments of Serena and Venus fans are never expressed and that's a shame- agree or disagree, we should all be able to get a balanced play by play account.
nice post!

SelesFan70
Sep 6th, 2004, 02:05 AM
Katrina commentates on The Tennis Channel. I"ve posted on here that I don't particularly like her, but I must admit she's growing on me. I would love for Malivai to do some private commentating in my bedroom, on my couch, in my kitchen, in the shower, in the car, outside in the middle of the day... :devil:

fammmmedspin
Sep 6th, 2004, 02:39 AM
If they say something sensible I don't care what colour they are. They could be sitting their naked knitting for all I would know anyway as all I hear is a voice.


Come to think of it Sam Smith or Martina Hingis naked knitting would put the audience figures up...."we go over to......"

ali
Sep 6th, 2004, 03:18 AM
Sam Smith always looks so pissed off with Barry Cowan and Chris Bailey!! She rolled her eyes at Barry yesterday, which in fairness is understandable considering the rubbish he comes out with!

WtaTour4Ever
Sep 6th, 2004, 03:48 AM
I don't think Katrina was that bad....I really liked Corina though.

BlinX
Sep 6th, 2004, 04:08 AM
Ya, we should have one of each...an asian, white, black, native, young, old etc.....GIVE ME A BREAK! WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE LOOK LIKE...THE IMPORTANT PART IS WHAT THEY KNOW AND HOW THEY TALK ABOUT TENNIS...DON'T TURN EVERYTHING INTO A RACIAL SITUATION! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: