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Hayato
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:42 PM
great match :)

well done Patty, she saved 3 match points :eek: :bounce:

Tratree
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:44 PM
Honestly, I love Daniela, but that was about as pathetic a tiebreak as I've seen in a while. Back to the drawing board. Patty, have fun against Serena ;)

SWP
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:44 PM
This must be the closest match in the US Open so far!

VeeNMaria4Eva
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:44 PM
So devastating for Daniela...

Tennisfan-Mtl
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:44 PM
Patty :bounce: :hearts: :bounce: :kiss: :bounce: :hearts: :bounce:

thelittlestelf
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:44 PM
Daniela :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: I'm so sorry for you :sad: this was a really emotional match.


Good win Patty :cool:

grmbl
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Dani :sad:

fluffydreamcloud
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Fantastic match, so.....absorbing :p Well played Patty! :D
She looked sooo happy, but poor Dani seemed crushed :sad: She can't seem to pull out the win in the really big matches.

tobe
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Oh my :rolleyes: So many great matches right now and German Eurosport shows boring Lopez vs. Kohlschreiber????!!!! SAD!
Sorry for Daniela, matchpoints wasted...anyway she is on the right way i guess

Philip
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Patty!!! :D :D :banana:

it was so tense. reminded me of zurich vs dani :o

yes patty! :yeah:

LindsayRocks89
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
dani don't be :sad: be :D and take the positive out of the match and keep improving to get back to the player you were :worship:

Joana
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:46 PM
Ouch. Eurosport must have brought bad luck to Daniela, they tuned in just when she had those matchpoints. She didn't win a point since.

Havok
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:46 PM
That pathetic forehand into the net at 6-5 Hantuchova.:tears: I was really pulling for her, wanted to see her get this win and really start her comeback trail to the top of women's tennis. Nice fight from Patty, but Daniela needs to get more firm in the big occasions, those looks she gave to her people in the stands was reminicent of Daniela of 2003 when she was about to burst into tears.:o Still a good tournament for Dani though, I hope she continues to improve.:)

mamno_MARYFAN
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
Its not fair.....:sad:

esquímaux
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
Great job for Pattycake hanging in there :D I must say though, I really feel for Patty fans (I know switz is one :wavey: ). Watching Patty play (especially the forehand :eek: ) is like riding a neverending rollercoaster at max speed :o. I also feel for Dani too, she was wipin' the eyes in that tiebreak :unsure: Oh well, good luck next round babe :kiss::bigwave:

GoSandrine
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
:woohoo:

What a gritty effort from Patty. :hearts: :D It appeared Daniela would take it but Patty refused to wilt. Terrific stuff! :yeah:

too bad Daniela :(

vutt
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
Patty!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

GoDominique
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM
Obviously Daniela used all her luck in the first round already. :o

Looking forward to Patty vs. Serena (?) though. ;)

tennisiscool
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:49 PM
Could well be Tati v/s Patty :)

*JR*
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:49 PM
Maybe being with her Slovene Sparring Partner, not :rolleyes: Her Husband, is doing PP some good. :devil:

GoSandrine
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:50 PM
Looking forward to Patty versus Serena also. ;)

loppy
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:50 PM
What a fight! Congratulations both girls :worship: Too bad someone has to come out on the short end :sad:

tennisiscool
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:50 PM
Maybe being with her Slovene Sparring Partner, not :rolleyes: Her Husband, is doing PP some good. :devil:Can you EVER talk about Patty without bringing her husband into it? You are just plain obsessed with him :)

QuicKyMonSter
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:51 PM
as much as i love hantu. i wanted patty to win!! i love her too!! shes my fave lefty...nice match!!
beat serena plz!!!! good luck!

!<blocparty>!
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:51 PM
OMG, that tie-break was so tence, Dani was something like 5-2 up and Patty hit this mis-hit lob for a winner :eek: Dani's last match point was so nerve racking, she was sooo close to the fourth round :(

Lady
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:53 PM
What a choke! :( Have you seen this volley at 5-3 30-15 Daniela's serve?
And then double fault?

Well done, Patty!

Julian
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:53 PM
My heart was beating so fast during that tiebreak..so intense and seeing Dani SOO distressed..

RELAX DANI! I know how important this is but you HAVE to be calm and composed..

Dani has done one thing right this year and hopefully it will be a big step coming for next year..she STILL needs to work on that mentality..

BTW nice win from Patty who has SO much talent..hope she gives Serena a good fight!

bandabou
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:53 PM
Great, great match.....Daniela just couldn´t close it out. Served for the match at 5-3, had mp´s at 6-5, had another mp in the tie-break....way to go Patty. Really tough mentally.

beauty_is_pink
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:57 PM
Daniela needs to learn how to close out a match when she's ahead.
but nevertheless... points for getting up from a set down :yeah:

you're improving D, keep working.


congrats Patty :)

Shooter
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:00 PM
Wish I could have seen the match!

http://www.mfwweb.com/tennis/Misc/Shooter.jpg

http://www.mfwweb.com/tennis/LA04/Schnyder_06.jpg

GoldenSlam
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:03 PM
lol....oh well, that was a fun match, especially the last few points, it's Dani's to lose, and she lost it.
Well, better luck next time:).

jlamire
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:05 PM
as much as i love hantu. i wanted patty to win!! i love her too!! shes my fave lefty...nice match!!
beat serena plz!!!! good luck!
Serena has to beat Tatiana before. I know for many it's 99,99% sure Serena will win but there is still that 0,01%.

Dava
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:06 PM
One of the better matches of the tournament so far, ok the second set was shit (Dani was missing loads, and Patty went into moon ball mode)...but the rest of the match was excellent, the game Schyder broke in the first set lasted 25 minutes :eek: and Schnyder was very good when match point down playing cooly, and aggresivly. Heartbreaker for Dani, but at least shes putting herself in good positions now rather then just losing badly.

QuicKyMonSter
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:13 PM
wow, i just saw the tiebreak.....im so happy for patty:D :kiss:

bandabou
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:14 PM
I think that lob in the tie-break by Patty was the blow for Dani...after that her spirit went waaaaayyyyyy down.

Dava
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:15 PM
I think that lob in the tie-break by Patty was the blow for Dani...after that her spirit went waaaaayyyyyy down.
yup that pretty much blew it for her...

yukon145
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:17 PM
Daniela :sad: :sad: :sad: i hope you keep moving up and this lose doesn't set you back.

switz
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:17 PM
OMG Patty. i tried staying up but i made the mistake of watching it in bed and after watching 2 sets of tommy vs seb i just feel asleep without trying. then i was lying in bed half awake and i just hear this faint voice saying "schnyder in that amazing third set tie-breaK'!!! and what a way to wake up!!! patty fighting?? what is going on? i'm scared!!

at the same time i'm upset for dani - all the signs are there that her game is back but she can't let this get her down. i wished she didn't lose so many matchpoints but at least it means she came as close as possible to winning

switz
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:23 PM
Great job for Pattycake hanging in there :D I must say though, I really feel for Patty fans (I know switz is one :wavey: ). Watching Patty play (especially the forehand :eek: ) is like riding a neverending rollercoaster at max speed :o. I also feel for Dani too, she was wipin' the eyes in that tiebreak :unsure: Oh well, good luck next round babe :kiss::bigwave:

that's so nice esqui. i shudder thinking i ever said anything bad about you. you are a true gentleman. now let's just pray that rubi sue can make this one of the best weekends of tennis ever for me (i presuming you want her to win - can't remember the extent of your venus love)

i want to give you reps but these corporate fatcats won't let me.

rated_next
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:24 PM
Well done Patty :D :D :D

Hantuchov
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:26 PM
I wish I didnt have watched this match :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

treufreund
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:30 PM
One of the better matches of the tournament so far, ok the second set was shit (Dani was missing loads, and Patty went into moon ball mode)...but the rest of the match was excellent, the game Schyder broke in the first set lasted 25 minutes :eek: and Schnyder was very good when match point down playing cooly, and aggresivly. Heartbreaker for Dani, but at least shes putting herself in good positions now rather then just losing badly.
EXCELLENT POINTS you make here. Patty really did play so smart instinctively IMO!

*JR*
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:33 PM
Can you EVER talk about Patty without bringing her husband into it? You are just plain obsessed with him :)From The Things PP Told The Basler Zeitung about this Slovene, She Seems Sorta, err "attracted to him". PP, ditch the Frankfurt Felon and I'll become your biggest fan here after Rothes. :lol:

beauty_is_pink
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:46 PM
i didnt see her cry.. when did she cry? :scratch:

beauty_is_pink
Sep 3rd, 2004, 09:48 PM
she was wipin' the eyes in that tiebreak :unsure: Oh well, good luck next round babe :kiss::bigwave:i think it was from her excess sweating :rolleyes: :p

beauty_is_pink
Sep 3rd, 2004, 10:06 PM
i saw the match. she looked upset yeh. but no cryin. she was sweating excessively tho. im pretty sure thats it

Kuti Kis&Monica
Sep 3rd, 2004, 10:10 PM
I'm so sad for ani :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :sobbing: :sobbing:

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 3rd, 2004, 10:42 PM
Daniela :sad: :sad: I love you girl, that tournament is showing that you are on the good track to come back in the top where you belong! You just need to go up the next step and win those matches, and i know it will happen!

Lemonskin.
Sep 3rd, 2004, 11:05 PM
Scoreline looks like it must have been a cracker match. Poor ol' Dani.

V-MAC
Sep 3rd, 2004, 11:07 PM
PATTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :kiss:

I'm so pleased for her. I was shouting at the tv during the tiebreak at Patty to take more risks coz I felt Patty was holding back way too much and letting Dani dictate completely.I was thrilled at 6-6 in the tiebreak when Patty went for broke and cracked an awesome return right back at Daniela.It payed off for her to be brave :) :bounce: :bounce:

fammmmedspin
Sep 4th, 2004, 12:38 AM
that's so nice esqui. i shudder thinking i ever said anything bad about you. you are a true gentleman. now let's just pray that rubi sue can make this one of the best weekends of tennis ever for me (i presuming you want her to win - can't remember the extent of your venus love)

i want to give you reps but these corporate fatcats won't let me.
Patty was always very good when she was aggressive. She just went into La La land node and threw in two bad service games to make it a three setter. On the points that mattered she broke back or won. Dani can take a lot away too she came back several times and dominated at times - she just couldn't serve it out or match Patty the attacker.

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 12:43 AM
patty!! i can't believe i am reading so many people say she fought for something. what a great sign. this tournament really changes her feel of her whole because she produced results throughout now. of course this tournament isn't over but it looks very good for her the indoor season because it has become her best surface.

fammmmedspin
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:08 AM
patty!! i can't believe i am reading so many people say she fought for something. what a great sign. this tournament really changes her feel of her whole because she produced results throughout now. of course this tournament isn't over but it looks very good for her the indoor season because it has become her best surface.
Its deceptive - the commentators were saying how placid patty looked most of the time (poker faced) and she could have been thiking of her holidays at times for all she showed and they compared her to Dani who was very demonstrative and shed the odd tear. Patty not showing it though doesn't mean she isn't feeling it. Patty kept on coming back though and the clenched fist appeared when she broke to stay out there and saved match points. She was very up and went into zone when she needed too - you just wish she could have done it in two by not throwing in the two bad service games.Patty falls to her knees at the end looking very happy. There is also a lovely shot near the end of the long 25 minute first set game when Patty looks as if she is having difficulty not laughing as Dani failed to convert yet another game point. She then closes the game out by grabbing the last two poinrs.

Sam L
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:42 AM
Patty. :mad:

Daniela. :sad:

smarties
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:54 AM
Dani stopped going for her shots in the TB, she really played into the hands of Patty who was moonballing her. And she puts so much pressure on herself that when she loses a single point, it's like the end of the world and that affects her concentration.

Too bad cause this win would have benefited her way more than Patty.

Hant Hant
Sep 4th, 2004, 03:10 AM
DAMN IT!!!!!! I am gonna get drunk to drown my !@#$%^&*() sorrows!!!!!

Rohin.
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:12 AM
just give me a gun :sad:

seriously well done patty but you know Daniela needs this more than you damit !:(

vogus
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:40 AM
Daniela looked bad at the end, she had three match points but didn't come close to winning any of them. She wanted to Patty to give her the match, but Patty held firm and refused to give it away. Patty always has nerves of ICE against Dani, she keeps such an emotionless face, it looks like there is just nothing inside her at all. It's weird but as soon as i saw the score of Dani saving match points to beat Pin in the first round, it came into my head that Dani would beat Molik and then Patty would get to the fourth round, bcuz she always beats Dani.

JR who is Patty's new hitting partner, do tell - i think you are onto something there, Patty seems to have somewhat better results when she leaves Hubby Hofmann at home in Zurich to feed the cats.

It's a good win for Patty obviously, but we have to remember that it's "only" Hantuchova she beat, and Dani is far from a feared player on the tour these days. It's a big win not because of who Patty beat, but because of where she did it. I wouldn't say beating Dani yet again (she's done it five straight times now) necessarily means Patty has "turned the corner" for the future. She will have to play a lot better than she did today, if she is going to challenge Serena. But i'm certainly not counting Patty out of it.

esquímaux
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:54 AM
that's so nice esqui. i shudder thinking i ever said anything bad about you. you are a true gentleman. now let's just pray that rubi sue can make this one of the best weekends of tennis ever for me (i presuming you want her to win - can't remember the extent of your venus love)

i want to give you reps but these corporate fatcats won't let me.
:kiss::hug: I'm serious though. Every time Patty clocked one of those loopy forehands it's like time standing still. And then she looped one right on the line (matchpoint down too i think :eek: ). :lol: As for my Venus love, I'm passed the point of putting high hopes one certain players to do well. As a wise woman once said, "I root for good tennis." ;)

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:59 AM
it's just getting to the 4th round which the achievement. it's the first time since 98 she has been this far and making a semi and 4th round (so far) of slam is a good slam year.

i'm so looking forward to seeing patty versus serena at night at a decent here in australia. should be on at about 9.30am

Circe
Sep 4th, 2004, 05:08 AM
hant looked like she was crying at the end, but i might be wrong, i only saw the tie-break to be honest.
still, she doesnt seem to like being there at times like this, its like she lets the weight of the world bear down on her.

vogus
Sep 4th, 2004, 05:15 AM
yeah the good news is with Patty playing Serena, we are guaranteed to see it on TV. I'm pretty sure it will be a day match bcuz Serena won't play two straight night matches.

it's only Patty's 2nd ever USOpen 4th round appearance (the other one was in '98, when she beat Graf in the night match on the middle Sunday of the tournie.)

Greenout
Sep 4th, 2004, 05:35 AM
I watched this from 6-5 in the 3rd set. Patty was rocking!


What did you think of the loud Patty supporters. :haha:
WTF? It sounded like football match.

Harju.
Sep 4th, 2004, 06:01 AM
Poor Dani :( :( :(

esquímaux
Sep 4th, 2004, 06:06 AM
DAMN IT!!!!!! I am gonna get drunk to drown my !@#$%^&*() sorrows!!!!!
Hold on, did Daniela lose the match or did you? :unsure: Take it easy man :kiss:

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 07:57 AM
I watched this from 6-5 in the 3rd set. Patty was rocking!


What did you think of the loud Patty supporters. :haha:
WTF? It sounded like football match.

it's funny because patty always seems to have a small group of loud supporters. she did here, at the Aus Open, at Sydney, and charleston before the martinez incident, and RG when i was there and of course a very loud bunch in zurich.

KingA
Sep 4th, 2004, 08:01 AM
I believe Daniela will have a big cry in the locker room after losing this match..... Poor her... :o That forehand to the net at 6-5 in the tiebreak was just devastating.... She was playing too safe until that point where she tried to be aggressive......

daniela86
Sep 4th, 2004, 08:16 AM
I am too sad and mad to make some comments about the match! :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: I only hope Dani won't loose the little confidence she brought after beating Alicia! :sad: :sad: :sad:

VeraNuVirgosFan
Sep 4th, 2004, 09:27 AM
Another very close match...

Better luck at your next tournament, Dani!!

bis2806
Sep 4th, 2004, 10:33 AM
When Dani was up in the tiebreak, did any of you hear someone saying along the lines of ''Patty you can't beat her, you're done'' and then like someone else responded by saying "take off the colour of your shirt because you're finnish'' :lol: i found that hilarious, and i think another person shut them off by saying ''shut up'' before one of them served.

Daniela was like all pumped up when she was up 2 matchpoints and smiling but it was too bad she let it go, congrats to patty though!!!!!:D

azza
Sep 4th, 2004, 10:36 AM
Patty :aparty: :banana:

Greenout
Sep 4th, 2004, 10:55 AM
it's funny because patty always seems to have a small group of loud supporters. she did here, at the Aus Open, at Sydney, and charleston before the martinez incident, and RG when i was there and of course a very loud bunch in zurich.

I suppose we're the WTAworld message board counter parts. :p


I think it's great. She's really acknowledges it too, and it really
does help her push harder in matches.

bandabou
Sep 4th, 2004, 11:00 AM
When Dani was up in the tiebreak, did any of you hear someone saying along the lines of ''Patty you can't beat her, you're done'' and then like someone else responded by saying "take off the colour of your shirt because you're finnish'' :lol: i found that hilarious, and i think another person shut them off by saying ''shut up'' before one of them served.

Daniela was like all pumped up when she was up 2 matchpoints and smiling but it was too bad she let it go, congrats to patty though!!!!!:D


:lol: Yeah, yeah...it was before Patty served, I don´t remember the score, but it was funny.

Greenout
Sep 4th, 2004, 11:03 AM
:lol: Yeah, yeah...it was before Patty served, I don´t remember the score, but it was funny.


Oh shit! That was hysterical! :haha:
Shouting matches between rowdy supporters. :tape:

Greenout
Sep 4th, 2004, 11:10 AM
Great job for Pattycake hanging in there :D I must say though, I really feel for Patty fans (I know switz is one :wavey: ). Watching Patty play (especially the forehand :eek: ) is like riding a neverending rollercoaster at max speed :o.



This Esqui is why some of us are hooked. :p
When her game is on, it leaves you gasping for air.

mousee
Sep 4th, 2004, 11:55 AM
cmon SERENA...baggel that swiswi :bounce:

bee
Sep 4th, 2004, 11:58 AM
Great Effort for Daniela...
Better luck next time...

:) :) :)

Doris Loeffel
Sep 4th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Well done Patty - good to see you fighting again!!
Now keep it up better still improve it for your next match!!

Good luck against Serena you know that gall is beatable!!

Gooo Patty gooo

*JR*
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:41 PM
JR who is Patty's new hitting partner, do tell - i think you are onto something there, Patty seems to have somewhat better results when she leaves Hubby Hofmann at home in Zurich to feed the cats...I don't know, except that he'e a 22 y.o. Slovene. I'm sure he'd be a big improvement ova the Career Conman, which isn't hard, of course. ;)

Doraemon
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Must have been a real close match.
but no big deal at all. Patty has just beaten a non-top player in extremely tight three sets. I don't c her giving Serena a run for the money in the next round.

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Must have been a real close match.
but no big deal at all. Patty has just beaten a non-top player in extremely tight three sets. I don't c her giving Serena a run for the money in the next round.

so you admit you didn't see the match on the one hand but then make the assessment that beating a former top 5 player on her way back means she can't give "Serena a run for her money"?

vogus
Sep 4th, 2004, 02:49 PM
switzy i think you are over-valuing Hantuchova a bit. She bears no resemblance whatsoever to a Top 5 player - maybe she's "on her way back" to the Top 20, but not to the Top 5. Patty isn't playing her best tennis right now (except for AO and Charleston, she hasn't done so all year), but then neither is Serena, she is slower and less deadly than she was at her peak. So i think that for this reason Patty has a chance.

azza
Sep 4th, 2004, 02:50 PM
Patty :woohoo:

*Karen*
Sep 4th, 2004, 02:56 PM
I'm so sorry for Danka. She almost won. I think she's definetly on her way back to the top 20. I think she'll get back to top ten eventually. Not sure about top 5 though. Keep fighting Dani.

Congrats Patty.

*Karen*
Sep 4th, 2004, 02:57 PM
so you admit you didn't see the match on the one hand but then make the assessment that beating a former top 5 player on her way back means she can't give "Serena a run for her money"?

Patty will give Serena a fight. I think Serena will win in 2 close sets.

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 03:19 PM
switzy i think you are over-valuing Hantuchova a bit. She bears no resemblance whatsoever to a Top 5 player - maybe she's "on her way back" to the Top 20, but not to the Top 5. Patty isn't playing her best tennis right now (except for AO and Charleston, she hasn't done so all year), but then neither is Serena, she is slower and less deadly than she was at her peak. So i think that for this reason Patty has a chance.

vogy to me hantuchova resembled the player she once was against molik (not fully but to a certain extant). i know patty isn't player her best but that really means very little because patty basically never plays at the same standard from match to match and usually lifts in these types of situations. i find it hard to see her beating serena but as i have said i'm just excited she's their because patty is the queen of achieving the unexpected - in terms of both beating top players and losing to not so great ones as well.

there's no other player outside the very top of the game who has demolished the top players in sets or matches like patty has - beating mauresmo 6-2, 6-2; myksina 6-1, 6-1; dementieva 6-3, 6-1; winning sets off henin on clay 6-1 and 6-2; beating world no.1 capriati in straight sets; graf in straight sets etc etc. she almost always does this to players when they are at their highest ranks as well.

for so long she pissed me off with her inconsistancy but i have come to love it these days because every week you know this could be the one where she makes everyone sit up. i can't support the top players - i find supporting dominating sports people/teams boring. i mean my favourites are patty, chanda, myriam, babsi, dani, mary. need i say more?

Cilla
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:20 PM
I think that lob in the tie-break by Patty was the blow for Dani...after that her spirit went waaaaayyyyyy down.ITA. She was completely crushed after that moment. I felt so bad for her, she is still so emotionally fragile :sad; but she has a hell of a lot of positives to take from this match on the road back to the top.

But, I was rooting for Patty and she showed such spirit to hang in there after being 5-2 down in the TB!

vogus
Sep 4th, 2004, 04:56 PM
honestly switzy no offense but i don't care much for any of your other faves (except maybe Casanova who is growing on me). Patty is different because she is BETTER than those other players you named. I hate seeing Patty grouped in a category with Rubin, Schett, and Dani, because for me Patty is just better than they are, she is mentally tougher and she has more game. It's a big tragedy that Patty hasn't really shown that except at two or three tournies in her career. I tend to see Patty as more similar to MY other faves, Dementieva, Petrova, Shenay Perry etc, rather than yours. Patty could actually be a top player herself, instead of a second tier dark horse. On the other hand it would have been an even bigger tragedy if Patty had quit the game 5 years ago and not been playing at all, so i guess we have to take what we can get.

switz
Sep 4th, 2004, 05:04 PM
honestly switzy no offense but i don't care much for any of your other faves (except maybe Casanova who is growing on me). Patty is different because she is BETTER than those other players you named. I hate seeing Patty grouped in a category with Rubin, Schett, and Dani, because for me Patty is just better than they are, she is mentally tougher and she has more game. It's a big tragedy that Patty hasn't really shown that except at two or three tournies in her career. I tend to see Patty as more similar to MY other faves, Dementieva, Petrova, Shenay Perry etc, rather than yours. Patty could actually be a top player herself, instead of a second tier dark horse. On the other hand it would have been an even bigger tragedy if Patty had quit the game 5 years ago and not been playing at all, so i guess we have to take what we can get.

i was talking about frustration they cause me from having ability but getting injuries in the way etc. i don't know why you go on about patty being mentally tough - she have been in this match but it's purely her mental weakness that has prevented her rise to the top. she normally is pretty good at showing her frustration on court as well.

no offense as well but i don't care for any of your faves either - i think petrova and dementeiva are two of the most boring players i have ever seen.

*JR*
Sep 4th, 2004, 09:14 PM
It's a big tragedy that Patty hasn't really shown that except at two or three tournies in her career.The only True Tragedy re. the Peppermint Player is her real life.