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shap_half
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:55 PM
Justine lead 5-3 in the second.

Meteor Shower
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:57 PM
i'm proud of you tzipi
you really played well and fight amazingly

i almost cried went you took the second set :\

Truthwillout
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:57 PM
Too big a scare, are you kidding me. If Justine doesn't raise her game she'll be out by the quarters. She wouldn't have stood a chance vs a top 10 today. I wonder what's wrong with her. The kind of day when nothing works for you

Hant Hant
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:57 PM
fo' sure, it was a big scare. women's tennis has real depth though.

*kaz*
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:57 PM
Just a second set lapse. Not a problem though she recovered well.

Darop.
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:58 PM
Obziler* with a Z

GoldenSlam
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:59 PM
That was fun:), but Justine better wakes up soon, otherwise she'll lose.

Allez-H
Sep 2nd, 2004, 06:59 PM
Seriously,that serve was TERRIBLE today :o

shap_half
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:01 PM
Everything was terrible today. Her footwork was off. I think she just got rattled. She just needs to relax. There isn't anything wrong with her game as long as she keeps herself focused. And Justine almost always never plays well in the early rounds of tournaments.

GoDominique
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:01 PM
Just a second set lapse. Not a problem though she recovered well.
Yep. That's why the 3rd set almost took an hour.

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:03 PM
Better play bad now that in the latter rounds.

Meteor Shower
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:05 PM
come on just one good word on tzipi?
she deserves some credit doesn't she?

Kart
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:05 PM
Justine did not play her best from what I saw but well done to her opponent for taking her second serve on :yeah:.

shap_half
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:10 PM
Obziler really capitalized on Justine's mentality today. She hung in every point and forced Justine to really win the match. Some opponents would beat themselves against higher rank players, but she didn't. She really forced the issue that Justine would need to beat her.

bandabou
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:15 PM
Well....at least she won. There other seeds that weren´t that lucky.

franny
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:17 PM
She'll need to cut down the errors if she wants to win this thing, especially against Davenport, who can hurt her enough with her own power.

*Yoav*
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:22 PM
well done, Tzipi :worship: :bigclap: :clap2:
i had never been so happy after a deafet for one of my favorites ;)

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:27 PM
She'll need to cut down the errors if she wants to win this thing, especially against Davenport, who can hurt her enough with her own power.
She likes power, and I'm 100% sure she will raise her level against the big ones if it's not a health problem.

rue
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:34 PM
I don't think that we should worry to much about her. She will be fine, its just that even though she won the Gold medal in Athens, she still is recovering and it is okay for her to sometimes have a few lapses. She will pick up her game eventually and I am sure she will.

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:36 PM
All Olympic semi-finalists have trouble it seems.

Jasmin
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:37 PM
It was just one of those days for Henin. The next time she will probably be great.

Knizzle
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:38 PM
Damn I had no clue this was going on. :eek:

Justine :scratch:

lauryn
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:48 PM
Yuck, what an ugly match from Justine! No Serve, bad movement, awful shot selection, couldn't construct a point, all these really bad errors. :o

Well done Tzipora, she sure didn't make things easy for Justine :yeah:

tennisiscool
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:52 PM
Justine seems to do this at slams. Remember the AO this year ?:)

GoDominique
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:54 PM
Justine seems to do this at slams. Remember the AO this year ?:)
I do. But IMO it was even worse today.

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:55 PM
I do. But IMO it was even worse today.
So she will do even better later on :D

Lady
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:58 PM
OMG! What can I say about this match... :scratch: Justine was clueless there today!:(
Bad! Bad!

Couldn't hold her serve... by only winning return games, you won't win the match! :tape:

SJW
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:58 PM
she played awful.

Lady
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:00 PM
Yes! It was worse today then at AO!

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:01 PM
OMG! What can I say about this match... :scratch: Justine was clueless there today!:(
Bad! Bad!

Couldn't hold her serve... by only winning return games, you won't win the match! :tape:
You can, in two tiebreaks :devil:

Filip!
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:03 PM
Played bad, agree.

But I think she 's a bit tired. Winning the Olympics without match rythm, flying back to Belgian on monday, flying to New York on tuesday... I think it's still a bit in her body... Let 's hope she can get some rest now, without Pat Etcheberry who is forcing her to do difficult exercices ;)

best best better
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:04 PM
Yes it was a fairly shocking performance from Justine in the second set, BUT the only thing that worries me is that she appeared to be really REALLY tired during that match.

DFs, over-cooking the forehand, massive UE's are all part of justine's game. It's just a sliding scale for her in terms of getting that balance right. But end of the second set/beginning of the third it looked like someone stuck a big fork in her. I don't know if there's a post-match interview yet, but it seemed to me like the physical tiredness gave over to the erraticness of her play. Add to that the well-known adage that Justine "can't play in the wind"...

But she's through, and I really didn't think she'd make it.

SJW
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:07 PM
i guess you can be glad that in slams she has days off :)

rottweily
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:07 PM
Yes it was a fairly shocking performance from Justine in the second set, BUT the only thing that worries me is that she appeared to be really REALLY tired during that match.

DFs, over-cooking the forehand, massive UE's are all part of justine's game. It's just a sliding scale for her in terms of getting that balance right. But end of the second set/beginning of the third it looked like someone stuck a big fork in her. I don't know if there's a post-match interview yet, but it seemed to me like the physical tiredness gave over to the erraticness of her play. Add to that the well-known adage that Justine "can't play in the wind"...

But she's through, and I really didn't think she'd make it.
Come on a little bit more faith.

gentenaire
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:08 PM
It was a bad match for Justine, but all credit to Obziler who got over her initial nerves and played very well. She seems like a very promising player.

SJW
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:09 PM
It was a bad match for Justine, but all credit to Obziler who got over her initial nerves and played very well. She seems like a very promising player.

isn't she like, over 30? :)

GoDominique
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:15 PM
isn't she like, over 30? :)
31 ;) but does that mean she's not promising? :)

pigam
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:19 PM
isn't she like, over 30? :)
She started her pro-carreer in 2002.
At the time she was nr 739, she climbed up to a carreer high of 104.

Apparently she fought in the Israelian army for 2 years and studied informatics (sic?) She's promising in a Navratilova kinda way :p

Lady
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:21 PM
Yes, she looked tired, but is it a valid excuse? She could finish the match in 2 sets, if only she'd concentrate on holding her serve! ;)

Spunky83
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:22 PM
I think I would be drowned in my own tears if Justine went out as well today...at least she´s still there;)...but what a freaky match!!!

gentenaire
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:22 PM
Oops

I had no idea she was 31! She certainly doesn't look like it. How come I never heard of her before?

A shame, really, I had rather hoped she'd be a young and upcoming player.

SJW
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:22 PM
31 ;) but does that mean she's not promising? :)

well...when you put it like that....i guess not :)

SJW
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:23 PM
She started her pro-carreer in 2002.
At the time she was nr 739, she climbed up to a carreer high of 104.

Apparently she fought in the Israelian army for 2 years and studied informatics (sic?) She's promising in a Navratilova kinda way :p

she played the AO in 2000....how did she do that? :confused:

Juju #1
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:25 PM
Don't agree with this at all...Obziler played a match of her life and Justine deserves a full credit for winning this match.

Meteor Shower
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:25 PM
you haven't heard of her because she doesn't play much WTA turnys
if she would have play them you would have heard of her, i'm sure..
she also retired from tennis and came back after losing in 7-6 third set to Davenport (!) if i'm correct

Meteor Shower
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:26 PM
Don't agree with this at all...Obziler played a match of her life and Justine deserves a full credit for winning this match.


thank you :worship: :worship: :worship:

flyingmachine
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:28 PM
She played awful today. :( However I just glad she's thougth to the 3rd round. I hope she will playing better next match. Allez :)

flyingmachine
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:30 PM
Don't agree with this at all...Obziler played a match of her life and Justine deserves a full credit for winning this match.
Well I surpose it could be a lot more worse. Oh yeah Myskina. :eek:

pigam
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:33 PM
she played the AO in 2000....how did she do that? :confused:
apparently commentators are lying...
Thanx for correcting.

Juju #1
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:34 PM
She played awful today. :( However I just glad she's thougth to the 3rd round. I hope she will playing better next match. Allez :)


Well, it doesn't depend everything always on Justine. Tzipora played excelent today, she was fighting for every ball. Tzipora :worship: :worship: :worship:

Jakeev
Sep 2nd, 2004, 08:44 PM
She started her pro-carreer in 2002.
At the time she was nr 739, she climbed up to a carreer high of 104.

Apparently she fought in the Israelian army for 2 years and studied informatics (sic?) She's promising in a Navratilova kinda way :p
Actually, Tzipora played American Collegiate tennis for Old Dominion, was an NCAA finalist to Jill Craybas in 1995, and then played thetour and retired in 2000.

From what Tracy said, Billie Jean King had been a reason why she returned to the tour after losing in three sets to a just-returning-from-injury Lindsay Davenport in a Fed Cup match in 2002.

Truthwillout
Sep 2nd, 2004, 09:21 PM
I think I would be drowned in my own tears if Justine went out as well today...at least she´s still there;)...but what a freaky match!!!

Once again same feelings here, Spunky83. I know she came through in the end but still... About Myskina this sucks big time :mad: :mad:

Truthwillout
Sep 2nd, 2004, 09:23 PM
Justine must be pissed off. I've watched Flemish and Walloon TV channels. Apparently she gave them no interview

faste5683
Sep 2nd, 2004, 09:50 PM
Juju looked winded after several long rallies AND rusty. Not a pretty match. I think she would have done better, however, with an opponent who actually gave her some pace; Obziler was a master "pusher" today.

I'm glad Justine got through the match, but sheesh!

:eek:

:wavey:

Knizzle
Sep 2nd, 2004, 09:58 PM
I'm I the only one who heard Justine was having stomach problems during the match?? That would explain the tiredness.

loppy
Sep 2nd, 2004, 10:04 PM
I think I would be drowned in my own tears if Justine went out as well today...at least she´s still there;)...but what a freaky match!!!
My exact sentiment as well. :sad:

Thank you, Justine for pulling out a win :worship:

faste5683
Sep 2nd, 2004, 10:19 PM
I'm I the only one who heard Justine was having stomach problems during the match?? That would explain the tiredness.

I didn't hear that, but I did hear that she had a cold. In the second and third sets, she really looked beat. Normally, after hitting a shot from the baseline, Juju takes a couple of "adjustment hops" to prepare for the next shot. In the latter part of this match, she seemed glued to the court. Not good.

:wavey:

Crazy_Fool
Sep 2nd, 2004, 10:20 PM
That was as bad as Myskina's effort, just lucky she played such a poor player otherwise she would be packing her bags already.

Something is up with Justine, only time will tell if she can raise her game enough, but i have doubts :sad:

loppy
Sep 2nd, 2004, 10:48 PM
Something is up with Justine, only time will tell if she can raise her game enough, but i have doubts :sad:We'll see. I have faith.

On the plus side, a performance like today's did stop the steroid accusations. ;)

SJW
Sep 3rd, 2004, 12:29 AM
she has a cold? girl is always ill.

Greenout
Sep 3rd, 2004, 01:02 AM
A historic day.

This match has got to be the worst I ever seen her play. :p

Greenout
Sep 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM
Justine must be pissed off. I've watched Flemish and Walloon TV channels. Apparently she gave them no interview


She looked pretty damn scary at the end of the match. I think
beat the crap out of PY in the hotel. :tape: