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Snoopyboy
Aug 19th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Yah, so I was wondering who has the best return in the history of tennis. What kinds of serves can they return. Can the best women's returner ever return an Andy Roddick serve? How good is she at returning?

So I put to you

Stamp Paid
Aug 19th, 2004, 08:52 PM
I think its a tie between Monica Seles and Serena Williams? I think so. As far as returing a 151 MPH serve, I don't know about that!

Oh yes, Justine has a good return of serve as well. http://wtaworld.com/ubb/rolleyes.gifhttp://wtaworld.com/ubb/tongue.gifhttp://wtaworld.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hant Hant
Aug 19th, 2004, 08:53 PM
JHH and Mario Ancic.......

Snoopyboy
Aug 19th, 2004, 08:57 PM
How about 135 mph serve?

Andrew.
Aug 19th, 2004, 08:58 PM
Lindsay is the best returner out there now IMO.

Dava
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Serena - Just because

Dementieva - She made the top 10 without a serve, it was her return which helped her there.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:00 PM
I think Serena pre-injury was the best returner...right now she doesn´t have the rythm anymore. So right now I think a lindsay or juju.

tennisIlove09
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Consistently, Davenport and Seles.

When she's on, Serena is the best though.

R&J
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:02 PM
There are alot of good returners. But if I had to put money on 1 return, it would be Monica Seles.

stevenPRIDE
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Capriati, Davenport, Serena .

All three have the best returns in the game, its amazing how many matches Jen has won with only her return game .....because she couldnt depend on her serv....

Serena is big on the return, espeacially second serve.

Davenport is big in general...not just her return!


* Monica in her prime returned unbelievebly, truely a class act, LOVE YA MON!!!

BEST RETURNERS

1.Serena
2.Lindsay/Jennifer
3.Monica

Steve.

CJ07
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:04 PM
At their peak

Best At Getting It Back-Venus
Best At Sending It Back...With Interest-Serena

Andrew.
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:10 PM
At their peak

Best At Getting It Back-Venus
Best At Sending It Back...With Interest-Serena I agree that Serena was an amazing returner at her peak, but I thought there were always returners far superior to Venus.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:16 PM
And why are we using was when talking about the sisters?!

UDiTY
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:16 PM
Consistent deep hard returns-Lindsay
Hits the most return winners-Serena
Can get the toughest serve back-Venus

Justine also is very agressive on returns. Kim gets alot of serves back. Nastya and Elena get alot back deep. But the three best are Lindsay and the Willies...

:p

selking
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:17 PM
well in every magazine that i have seen that has this type of question, they have always said that monica seles is the best ever.

CJ07
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:19 PM
I agree that Serena was an amazing returner at her peak, but I thought there were always returners far superior to Venus.
What I meant was that no matter how great the serve was, Venus could get it back better than anyone.

She has to be the least aced player on tour

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Consistent deep hard returns-Lindsay
Hits the most return winners-Serena
Can get the toughest serve back-Venus

Pretty good summed up..

*kaz*
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Juju, Serena, Jcap, Momo, Lindsay, Venus

!<blocparty>!
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Lindsay, Serena and Monica come to mind. Serena is amazing with Elena's second serve, she takes it apart. Lindsay has a very consistant return, but can also smack it. Monica's return was amazing considering her reach was is limited with two hands on both wings.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:41 PM
I´ve never seen anybody DESTROY second-serves like the Serena pre-surgery was doing. It just wasn´t funny....the ball was back before you even finished your motion.

Geisha
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Serena and Lindsay, then...
Monica and Venus, then...
Kim and Justine.

mboyle
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:46 PM
This is close between Lindsay Davenport and Jennifer Capriati, but I have to give the edge to Jennifer.

Power: Lindsay Davenport's power off the return is matched only by Serena and Maria Sharapova. Jennifer's is excellent, but in the next tier down.

Consistency: Both players get alot of balls back in play, and neither makes stupid errors like Maria/Serena do sometimes.

Depth: This is why Jennifer has the edge. Lindsay's second serve return always always ALWAYS has great depth and power, but J-Cap can return a tough first serve deep into the corner consistently, wheras LD's, though it gets over the net, is pretty attackable sometimes.

Angles: Both have excellent angles off wide returns, and this is the only shot off which Capriati can hit good angles.

DEETHELICK
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:46 PM
Monica Seles hands down. Early, angled and hard. Devastating. Even Serena at her best was not in Monica's league IMO.

Then I'd say Lindsay and Elena D (she's not winning matches because of her serve ;))

Jennifer used to have a great return, she gets it back really well, but its lost its bite.

Juju and Serena can return well and not so well IMO.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 09:51 PM
Juju and Serena can return well and not so well IMO.

:confused:

DEETHELICK
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:01 PM
What I meant was that they can have days when their returns look awesome. And then can follow it up with some poor returns.

I actually think they are pretty inconsistent off the return. Its their serves that really make them champions.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:04 PM
What I meant was that they can have days when their returns look awesome. And then can follow it up with some poor returns.

I actually think they are pretty inconsistent off the return. Its their serves that really make them champions.


Like that...I see.

stevenPRIDE
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:10 PM
I agree with however says Jennifers Return has lost some bite, in the last few tournies, Jen has had trouble with er fitness, but when shes strong enough, watch out, shell out smack any girl in the return department.

Jennifer is able to stay close with Serena in there matches because Jen has the best return game, she consistently returns many of Serenas first serves with depth and accuracy, of course theres the odd ace, but Jen has good eyes and knows what to do.

Steve.

DEETHELICK
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:21 PM
I think its a combination of injury and a lack of confidence again. During Rome, she was killing Amelie's 2nd serves. However, when she lost that match, it began to go a little pear shaped for her.

Jen has good eyes and timing, thats what makes her return so effective. However she doesn't hit it as hard as she used to. Especially returns on the forehand wing, she needs to step around and just smack them away.

I really believe Jen needs to take a few points from Elena D's game i.e. how to be aggressive and use the forehand as a weapon. Elena bosses points extremely well, and give her a forehand to hit, she does it very very well. Jennifer needs to get back that same attitude and mentality. It'll bring her game and returns back up to the level where they belong.

faboozadoo15
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:33 PM
seles is the best ever if you ask me.
but lindsay is the best now-- followed by serena, elena, venus, jenn, myskina (yep...), kim, and justine. they all have great returns. all can get a break at any time in the match.

PatM04
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:40 PM
Seles by far! Followed by Lindsay and the Williams girls.

volta
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Serena can actually almost "destroy" any serve when she´s on. Vee sometimes and Lindsay and Monica are good as well

LindsayRocks89
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Consistently, Davenport and Seles.

When she's on, Serena is the best though.

yea i agree, except that Lindsay and Serena are at a tie when they're both at their best

pav
Aug 20th, 2004, 12:13 AM
All of the above, but surprised only one mention of young Masha, when things are going right Hers can be pretty spectacular

mboyle
Aug 20th, 2004, 12:44 AM
Everyone talks about Elena D's return. Really, it isn't that good. She cannot neutralize a big serve the way Hingis or Seles at their peaks could. Dementieva wins her matches by getting into rallies. Who happens to be serving at the time doesn't matter much, but Elena also doesn't beat many big servers.

Andy.
Aug 20th, 2004, 12:54 AM
At her peak Serena's Returns were frightening she could have made the men scared they came back with huge power.

Havok
Aug 20th, 2004, 01:33 AM
Seles, then Davenport, then Serena.

Fingon
Aug 20th, 2004, 02:49 AM
How about 135 mph serve?
not a chance

they wouldn't return a 125 mph serve either.

GoldenSlam
Aug 20th, 2004, 02:54 AM
Hingis

stevenPRIDE
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:41 AM
i love serena to bits, but no way could she "scare men" with her return....this is coming from a tenni splayer, ive seen hudreds of matches between men and women, seperately! And no way could Serena pull off that.

steve.

MisterQ
Aug 20th, 2004, 04:09 AM
For aggressive returns, Seles, Serena, and Davenport are all exceptional! Capriati is up there too. But for the best combination of consistency and power, I would choose Monica Seles. The way she sees the ball and takes it on the rise is amazing. :)

bigshow21
Aug 20th, 2004, 04:10 AM
Of course i am going to say Jennifer Capriati!!!! :)

thelittlestelf
Aug 20th, 2004, 04:14 AM
Martina Hingis had quite a return! But I think Lindsay has a great one, Serena has the best one when she's on, and Venus has a great return.

rue
Aug 20th, 2004, 04:17 AM
I would have to say that Lindsay, Serena and Justine are the best returners as of now.

Dennis
Aug 20th, 2004, 07:00 AM
Monica Seles

CJ07
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Its funny because actually Venus stands inside the baseline even for mixed doubles! In Hong Kong, she was hitting return winners of Ferreros serve :lol:

shap_half
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:26 PM
I think most people are really overlooking Justine's return game. her return game is very good. She uses her power and angles to create problems for the server.

Take the IW final for example. She really picked on Lindsay's serve that day and Lindsay is among the best servers out there.

rommel99
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:28 PM
hmm hingis was pretty good even goran said it so himself.. i think the solid hitters are the best in returns and thats lindsay and capriati cause theyre timings are amazing

bandabou
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:33 PM
I think most people are really overlooking Justine's return game. her return game is very good. She uses her power and angles to create problems for the server.

Take the IW final for example. She really picked on Lindsay's serve that day and Lindsay is among the best servers out there.


Uhum...Justine´s return is good, but I think she can get jammed more often than the other players.

Glenn
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:35 PM
Serena was a better returner than Venus in my opinion.
Monica Seles was also great and so was Hingis.
Right now I think it's Davenport and maybe even Karolina Sprem. (I saw her handling Venus' first serves in Rome and that was amazing.)

LUXXXAS
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:39 PM
1. Monica
2. Serena
3. Lindsay

bandabou
Aug 20th, 2004, 03:41 PM
Have the sisters retired or something?! everybody is using was...when talking about them. It´s so odd.