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Doraemon
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:24 AM
I'm from Japan and so our best player is obviously Ai Sugiyama.
Her status in my country is no less desirable. She really deserves a lot more attention from the media and general public as well. Sometimes I feel like she's far less famous here than other domesitic athletes who are totally unknown internationally. The Athens Games just reminded me of how unfairly and rediculously the media treat athletes. Tennis is getting bigger and more popular these days and in terms of the number of ppl who play the sport, it's more wide-spread than the likes of swimming, judo which are getting full TV coverage while tennis gets absolutely NO coverage at all.
Back to the thread point, it's just disgusting how the Japanese media in general ignore Ai's achievements even when she's visibly doing well.

Mattographer
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:31 AM
Well, Australian media often mentioned our men players more than women players. For between Molik and Pratt, our Top 2 Australian players in WTA, they usually mentioned Molik but barely for Pratt even she's a Top 50 player.

Frank
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:35 AM
Hmmm...We Dutchies don't have any good woman tennis players at the moment...So most media attention goes to our biggest talent...Michaella Krajicek, half sister of Richard Krajicek...

mandy7
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:38 AM
our media treats all tenni splayers good :yeah:

Dava
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:43 AM
HAHA Like the media in the UK even know who Anne Keothavong is :lol:

Lemonskin.
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:49 AM
Im Aussie and the tennis only rates a quick mention in the news and there's zero coverage of it. i guess becuase Australia is such a strong swimming nation.

Thorpe, Hackett, Klim, Thomas, Lenton et al (all swimmers) and Jana Pittman all get the headlines. They're seen as bigger heroes by the media than, say Alicia Molik.

Philipoussis grabs a few headlines but only because he's banging Delta Goodrem (sorry about the language - bad reps not necessary).

Joana
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:49 AM
Jankovic is getting a lot more media coverage in the last few months, so that's very good to see.
Dokic is almost forgotten.

Frank
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Philipoussis grabs a few headlines but only because he's banging Delta Goodrem (sorry about the language - bad reps not necessary). :haha:He is?
How is Delta by the way? Last thing I heard about her was that she had cancer...:eek:

dr_mizuno2000
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:57 AM
well, first of all 99% of the media would walk straight past them, half of them because they don't recognize her, the other half because they don't care. There just aren't top players in Canada

Spunky83
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:58 AM
LOL LOL LOL just watch my flag! Tennis is dead in Germany. No live coverage of Wimby mens final though the channel had the right to do so...so far we haven seen ten minutes of Haas vs. Roddick and one of Kiefer or Haas or whoever...

I am so happy to have at least the chance to watch Eurosport. Weingaertner, Barna and they hardly ever get mentioned in the media, youll have lets say seven out of 100 persons who know who those two actually are...thats it..NOK NOK...whos there?

Lemonskin.
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:58 AM
:haha:He is?
How is Delta by the way? Last thing I heard about her was that she had cancer...:eek:

yep, they're an item. i believe they're planning to get married. it's wierd - he's... like... old, and she's only 19...

yeah she had cancer but she's fine now.

Spunky83
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:58 AM
yep, they're an item. i believe they're planning to get married. it's woerd - he's old and she's only 19...

yeah she had cancer but she's fine now.

Hes old? hmmm...what do you consider as old?

Lemonskin.
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Hes old? hmmm...what do you consider as old?

haha ok he's not OVER THE HILL, but still a helluva lot older than Delta.

Frank
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:00 PM
yep, they're an item. i believe they're planning to get married. it's wierd - he's... like... old, and she's only 19...

yeah she had cancer but she's fine now. He's not that old, is he? He just turned 28...Anyway...I'm glad she's fine:)

Lemonskin.
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:02 PM
And very pretty, too

boggs570
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:05 PM
yep, they're an item. i believe they're planning to get married. it's wierd - he's... like... old, and she's only 19...

yeah she had cancer but she's fine now.

Oh my, she had cancer at such a young age. What kind was it? That's great to hear she's doing fine and she's young so the chances will be better for her depending on what type it was. God bless her.

Frank
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:08 PM
Oh my, she had cancer at such a young age. What kind was it? That's great to hear she's doing fine and she's young so the chances will be better for her depending on what type it was. God bless her. I believe it was lymph gland cancer, but I'm not sure...

Greenout
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:09 PM
I'm from Japan and so our best player is obviously Ai Sugiyama.
Her status in my country is no less desirable. She really deserves a lot more attention from the media and general public as well. Sometimes I feel like she's far less famous here than other domesitic athletes who are totally unknown internationally. The Athens Games just reminded me of how unfairly and rediculously the media treat athletes. Tennis is getting bigger and more popular these days and in terms of the number of ppl who play the sport, it's more wide-spread than the likes of swimming, judo which are getting full TV coverage while tennis gets absolutely NO coverage at all.
Back to the thread point, it's just disgusting how the Japanese media in general ignore Ai's achievements even when she's visibly doing well.


I heard that NHK chose to show Justine's match :eek: instead of
Ai's a couple of days ago. Weird. Truly weird.

Spunky83
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:12 PM
I heard that NHK chose to show Justine's match :eek: instead of
Ai's a couple of days ago. Weird. Truly weird.

Shes blond and shes little...we love those people;)... :kiss:

Greenout
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:15 PM
Shes blond and shes little...we love those people;)... :kiss:

Yeah, yeah. She looks like an anime cartoon. ;)
The BOSS is already going in that direction in Belgium with
her *cough* *cough* image on school supplies.

mandy7
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:19 PM
And very pretty, too
yes, mark is very pretty :lick:

Come-on-kim
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:22 PM
In Belgium, Kim and Justine get a lot of attention. Any small information is in the newspaper!

They begin to write about the younger players! Bailly, Flipkens,...

Greenout
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Back to the original question> hmm. Well...in the USA. Foreign
players do not even exist in the draw. They're sort of like name
draw fodder, urban legends you might say. They are never shown on
tv, but their names always show up in the listing of rankings and
in the draws??? Oh- foreign players who are Spanish speakers are
always called "clay court specialists". They always never fail to mention
that they speak Flemish and French in Belgium.

The commentary for foreign players always play on stereotypes.
And "choking" seems to never happen to Americans, only foreigners.

American tennis players are all given the benefit of the doubt to
their real potential or place in the rankings. Tennis is rather big; but
it's not as big as Football, Baseball or Basketball. The focus is mainly
on the US hardcourt events, WIMBLEDON, and the US OPEN.
The Australian Open is more of a side bar event to the American
media since it takes place around the time of the Superbowl.
The French Open is given a more amusing commentary, and always
never fails to mention how rude the local crowds are.

Spunky83
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:28 PM
Yeah, yeah. She looks like an anime cartoon. ;)
The BOSS is already going in that direction in Belgium with
her *cough* *cough* image on school supplies.

Beep...Ive censored myself...beep out :tape:

Doraemon
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:53 PM
Sorry but no more bullshit stereotype please...
I felt rather insulted..

And NHK will never show a Justine match at the cost of Ai's. They are not that bad.

Greenout
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:55 PM
Sorry but no more bullshit stereotype please...
I felt rather insulted..

And NHK will never show a Justine match at the cost of Ai's. They are not that bad.


I heard it was on NHK BS1. They've been airing Olympic events
on the digital station.

Ekkekko
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:55 PM
A good example...
Tennis-Coverage during the Oly games...Almost zilch.
Marky is famous for his relationship with Delta Goodrem, rather than his tennis playing...
Being the human beings that we are, we naturally prefer a good goss....
And then Hewitt and Kim...Both Lovebirds and future Ms.aussie...More good goss.

Ekkekko
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:57 PM
Tennis players over here are treated as reading materials...
Unlike our swimmers....*sniff sniff*

Doraemon
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:00 PM
I heard it was on NHK BS1. They've been airing Olympic events
on the digital station.


I don't know about the digital thing cuz I don't have the chanell (most families don't). If they showed Justine's match, there must have been some reason like there was no TV camera in the court where Ai was playing. It wouldn't have been wise of NHK to show Justine for the sake of a good rate cuz Justine is hardly known to the general public here. Nobody cept diehard tennis fans who dare stay awake at 3 am to watch tennis.
Ai would draw far more attention and thus notch a better rate than Justine.

Mattographer
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:19 PM
I believe it was lymph gland cancer, but I'm not sure...
Hopkins' leukemia

Experimentee
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Im Aussie and the tennis only rates a quick mention in the news and there's zero coverage of it. i guess becuase Australia is such a strong swimming nation.

Thorpe, Hackett, Klim, Thomas, Lenton et al (all swimmers) and Jana Pittman all get the headlines. They're seen as bigger heroes by the media than, say Alicia Molik.

Philipoussis grabs a few headlines but only because he's banging Delta Goodrem (sorry about the language - bad reps not necessary).

I think Mark P gets plenty of media attention, but this year its been all negative because hes losing! Whenever any person on a sports radio station talks about tennis, its always knocking Mark.
Molik and Pratt barely rate a mention. I think not many people know who they are, and if they do, they think they are crap.

Spunky83
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:44 PM
Sorry but no more bullshit stereotype please...
I felt rather insulted..

And NHK will never show a Justine match at the cost of Ai's. They are not that bad.

Sorry :angel:

I am an asian myself...but since Ive already lived so many years here in europe, Ive assimilated that special kind of sarcastic, ironic humor, which I (and thats not a stereotype) know that its not an asian thing (I just cant turn it off).

Dont take it too seriously, its just a pop-cultural thing, meaning it wont last that long;)

Andrew.
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:49 PM
Well in the USA the best player right now is obviously Lindsay Davenport in both rankings and actual play. The media really doesn't focus much on her, but IO don't mind because I really think she likes it that way. They focus mostly on Venus, Serena and Jennifer. And I'm always suprised about how little many Americans know about tennis. For example when I was at Carson this year, most fans thought that Serena and Venus were still numbers one and two. Most really didn't hear much of Lindsay and disregarded her. But I like that. Flying under the radar has been her thing for quite some time.

Glenn
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:58 PM
Justine and Kim are our only real good athletes so when there's being talked about sports it's either soccer or Justine and Kim.

croat123
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:24 PM
Sprem and Ancic get loads of coverage now. They are in newspapers and magazines almost every single day :)

skanky~skanketta
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:25 PM
what top player? :rolleyes: :tape:

GoldenSlam
Aug 20th, 2004, 01:46 AM
Good, Sonya Jeyaseelan was pretty popular and I have seen some CBC documenteries of her.
As well as Daniel Nestor and Sebastian Laurea, they are pretty popular too.

WSfan
Aug 20th, 2004, 01:52 AM
Well in the USA the best player right now is obviously Lindsay Davenport in both rankings and actual play. The media really doesn't focus much on her, but IO don't mind because I really think she likes it that way. They focus mostly on Venus, Serena and Jennifer. And I'm always suprised about how little many Americans know about tennis. For example when I was at Carson this year, most fans thought that Serena and Venus were still numbers one and two. Most really didn't hear much of Lindsay and disregarded her. But I like that. Flying under the radar has been her thing for quite some time.

Of course a lot of people would think Serena and Venus are number 1. They're a fan of those players. It's not just ppl in Carson who believe Serena and Venus are number 1, a lot of people think they're still number 1.

GoldenSlam
Aug 20th, 2004, 01:54 AM
Well in the USA the best player right now is obviously Lindsay Davenport in both rankings and actual play. The media really doesn't focus much on her, but IO don't mind because I really think she likes it that way. They focus mostly on Venus, Serena and Jennifer. And I'm always suprised about how little many Americans know about tennis. For example when I was at Carson this year, most fans thought that Serena and Venus were still numbers one and two. Most really didn't hear much of Lindsay and disregarded her. But I like that. Flying under the radar has been her thing for quite some time.
I thought you werent American, there is no shame carrying their flag:)....

njguido11
Aug 20th, 2004, 01:56 AM
Ive got a question . Just was thinkin for you Australians your field hockey team has been #1 for awhile would you say a majority of the people their can actually name a field hockey star. Or for countrys that are good in handball the same question goes out??

GoldenSlam
Aug 20th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Ive got a question . Just was thinkin for you Australians your field hockey team has been #1 for awhile would you say a majority of the people their can actually name a field hockey star. Or for countrys that are good in handball the same question goes out??
Depends on if the people of the countries are fond of the sports or not.....
Britain won gold in curling in Salt Lake...just ask them to name one member, just one....
I bet the answer will probably be...."curling?...what kind of bloody sport is that?".

njguido11
Aug 20th, 2004, 02:08 AM
shit sorry for the question not really appropriate i guess for gm thought this was non tennis for a second i gues

Doraemon
Aug 22nd, 2004, 10:06 AM
Some of the Volleyball girls are more famous in Japan than Ai although those girls are virtually nobodies interniaonally.

FaceyFacem
Aug 22nd, 2004, 12:10 PM
I agree with the american standpoint, in women's it is only venus and serena and sometimes jennifer cap, in men's it is agassi, roddick, and federer, australian isn't noted, french is disregarded because no american's win it, wimbledon and us are the only things that matter, lindsay gets no attention, as much as a hate that and wish that all the best players got the attention they deserved, america is WAY too large of a country with too many other sports, if the media didn't focus on these few people they think (or perhaps have proof) the country wants to see, tennis would continue to die in the US, and I'd rather be disgusted by the way it is covered that not have it covered at all

"Sluggy"
Aug 22nd, 2004, 12:22 PM
It seems the media treats Momo pretty good in france. i think they try to be sensitive to Momo and write good articles about her and do good coverage.

Joana
Aug 22nd, 2004, 12:42 PM
Or for countrys that are good in handball the same question goes out??
Yes, most people in Serbia can certainly name at leats 2 or 3 male or female players. After all, we have the world's best female player.

But I don't think we're talking about the same sport here. American handball and Olympic handball are two completely different sports as I understand.

*kaz*
Aug 22nd, 2004, 01:13 PM
Henman's the only british player that gets attention. Normally for being a loser. People don't really care about tennis here except at wimbledon. Football's the only sport of real importance.

Veritas
Aug 22nd, 2004, 01:23 PM
I heard it was on NHK BS1. They've been airing Olympic events
on the digital station.

It wouldn't make sense. NHK is not a free-to-air station: meaning that it's compulsory for the public to pay for watching any NHK-aired programs. So the public pretty much has more say about what they want to see on T.V. I agree with Saint Seiya - NHK wouldn't dare show a Justine match over Ai's.

Meesh
Aug 22nd, 2004, 01:29 PM
Tennis takes a huge back seat to
Basketball (pro),
Football (pro),
Baseball,
College Football,
GOLF,
College Basketball,
Poker,
Hockey,
Pool (and I'm not talking about a swimming pool).
I think there is more highlights of the failing WNBA then tennis.
We often see Serena, Venus or Anna on Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood ..... now there's an important media outlet right? :lol: