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V-MAC
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:51 PM
will she ever manage to fight her way back into the top 10 again?? After all, she was a top 10 player only 5/6 months ago but of course alot has happened since then. :( I honestly thought that when she came back at Wimbledon, that by now she would be already ranked way inside the top 20.I expected that she would be rusty for a few tournaments but that it wouldn't be long before she'd find her stride again, like back in 2002 when she returned after her knee injury then.However it just hasn't happened.She has performed according to her ranking (23 still i think at the moment) in most of her tournaments back with reaching 3rd rounds.but she has also dropped many sets to players which she shouldn't be.still this is not so worrying as at least she still manages to win those matches, what is worrying though, is the manner that she keeps losing to the big players where she has only managed to grab a few games off them, don't mind a set. :o What really gives a cause for concern was her match today against Mauresmo, a player who she has a winning record over.I was expecting Chanda to at the very least, really stretch Momo in this match but instead what happened, Chanda gets rolled over yet again in two rather simple straight sets.It's all starting to become far too familiar and I really sympathize with all Rubin fans everywhere for what we have to constantly put up with.I just hope Chanda can pull back that magic she had at the start of the year even.But I most admit, my optimism for her is starting to fall rather dramatically.so what does everyone else think her future in tennis holds for her???

Emiel Goelen
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:04 PM
I don't think she'll get back to her top form, no.
Her best days are clearly behind her...

QuicKyMonSter
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:29 PM
i dont see her in the top 10 again...nevertheless she could surprise us and crack into it once again...but honestly i just see her in the top15-20

selking
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Never again

Heeves23
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:04 PM
being realistic... no

Andrew.
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:05 PM
No. She'll never be top 10 again.

treiber04
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:43 PM
Definetely, she has tons of points to pick February on next year.

selking
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:23 PM
yea but she cant win. you have to win to get points

Bероника
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:53 PM
I hope she proves all of you wrong.If anything Chanda is a fighter...and with a little bit of luck on her side for a change,she can perfectly climb

*kaz*
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:56 PM
I find it weird how she hasn't done that well title wise. She's a great player and was floating around the top ten for ages. I'd love to see Chanda back to her best and winning something.

Kart
Aug 18th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Of course she can return to the top ten.

She was in it last year.

Obviously it's not solely in her hands alone because there are more than ten players on the tour better than her but that doesn't mean they'll always be ranked above her.

C.MARTINEZ
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:55 AM
Chanda is a great star :hearts: :hearts:

I love her, I think that she can play a lot of good tennis on the tour, she only needs donīt have more injuries.

Come on girl! :bounce: :bounce:

selking
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:03 AM
do you guys remember when she puked at the us open. Thta is the one thing i alway think of when i think of chanda

jan.
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:22 AM
She'll never be in the top 10 again.

vogus
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:33 AM
Rubin's last really good run was two years ago in the summer, and her reaching the Top 10 last year was really based on those great results from the summer of '02. So not having played at a high level for two years, she's not 100 percent physically, she's 28 yrs old, already had a long career and is a bit mentally tired, i say no way you will ever see Chanda Rubin in the Top 10 again. Finishing a couple more years inside the Top 30 and staying reasonably healthy will be a decent achievement for her.

Mr_Molik
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:40 AM
no, she is heading down the same path as raymond, martinez, coetzer etc

Dana Marcy
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:47 AM
I voted for one too many injury... I think you should add to that one too many injuires AND a lack of a killer instinct is the reason why she wasn't more successful in her career. Don't get me wrong yawl I really like Chanda but she just didn't have any edge to her which is why she never got certain humps in her career. In the end she's got nothing to be ashamed of because not that many players make the Top 10.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:53 AM
i'm not going to dignify this thread with response.

except to say that chanda has never given up before, and i have complete faith in her and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

great run 2 years ago vogus?? last she made tokyo semis losing to champ dav in 3 tight sets, IW quarters beating red hot sugiyama losing to red hot clijsters, miami semis beating amelie 6-2, 6-0 and justine 6-3, 6-2, got inured, won madrid, RG quarters, won eastbourne, got injured, made 2 more finals, made YEC played great tennis beating in form mauresmo, pushing clijsters, before choking at 6-3, 5-2 against dementieva, led eventual champ henin by a break in 3rd set in sydney, made Aus Open 4th round losing pretty tough match to myskina, made toyko semis but had to pull out due to injury, played 5 tournaments since and has had 2 bad losses to in form myskina in 3rd round of 2 tier Is, 1 bad loss to in form mauresmo in 3rd round of olympics, loss to eventual semi-finalists dementieva 7-5, 7-6(8) in 3rd round, and one "bad" loss to bartoli in her first match back 6-7, 4-6.

ok i dignified the thread with response but it was worth it. i know people say chanda gets injured too much to be a force etc etc but the fact is that she has been injured throughout her career and IMO has been one of the greatest players ever at overcoming injuries - she's had 3 knee re-constructions for god's sake . she's always been a patchy player, and i freely admit that when she doesn't have her rhythm she is terrible, but i see no reason why she will not find it again given that she hasn't played much, she very fit cardio wise, and has always found it in the past.

let's just weight and see.

kabuki
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:53 AM
Back in the day in the juniors, Chanda was supposed to be the one, not Lindsay. For Chanda, her body has always betrayed her, and the game has evolved tremendously in the last three years. The competition is so much greater and the draws are so much deeper. Unfortunately, I think the window may have closed.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 05:57 AM
i'm not going to dignify this thread with response.

except to say that chanda has never given up before, and i have complete faith in her and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

chanda was ranked in the top ten at the start of '04 so she couldn't be relying solely on a great summer from the year before last. great run 2 years ago vogus?? last year she made tokyo semis losing to champ dav in 3 tight sets, IW quarters beating red hot sugiyama losing to red hot clijsters, miami semis beating amelie 6-2, 6-0 and justine 6-3, 6-2, got inured, won madrid, RG quarters, won eastbourne, got injured, made 2 more finals, made YEC played great tennis beating in form mauresmo, pushing clijsters, before choking at 6-3, 5-2 against dementieva, led eventual champ henin by a break in 3rd set in sydney, made Aus Open 4th round losing pretty tough match to myskina, made toyko semis but had to pull out due to injury, played 5 tournaments since and has had 2 bad losses to in form myskina in 3rd round of 2 tier Is, 1 bad loss to in form mauresmo in 3rd round of olympics, loss to eventual semi-finalist dementieva 7-5, 7-6(8) in 3rd round, and one "bad" loss to bartoli in her first match back 6-7, 4-6.

ok i dignified the thread with response but it was worth it. i know people say chanda gets injured too much to be a force etc etc but the fact is that she has been injured throughout her career and IMO has been one of the greatest players ever at overcoming injuries - she's had 3 knee re-constructions for god's sake . she's always been a patchy player, and i freely admit that when she doesn't have her rhythm she is terrible, but i see no reason why she will not find it again given that she hasn't played much, she's very fit cardio wise, and has always found it in the past.

let's just wait and see.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:02 AM
Back in the day in the juniors, Chanda was supposed to be the one, not Lindsay. For Chanda, her body has always betrayed her, and the game has evolved tremendously in the last three years. The competition is so much greater and the draws are so much deeper. Unfortunately, I think the window may have closed.

i really don't buy the argument the game has evolved to such a level that only certain players can challenge for the top ten. how can ai sugiyama or paola suarez still challenge for it if that was the case.

the fact is that if chanda got a decent draw for once and got to player like sprem who made 64 unforced errors in 2 sets then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. IMO chanda is beating the players she should be beating and just needs a little more time before she will be ready to take on the top players again.

LiliaLee-Frazier
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:03 AM
I still would not count chanda out...she will have allot of points to gain towards the middle of next year since she was injured at that time this year :D :worship:

kabuki
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:04 AM
i really don't buy the argument the game has evolved to such a level that only certain players can challenge for the top ten. how can ai sugiyama or paola suarez still challenge for it if that was the case.

the fact is that if chanda got a decent draw for once and got to player like sprem who made 64 unforced errors in 2 sets then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. IMO chanda is beating the players she should be beating and just needs a little more time before she will be ready to take on the top players again.

As I said, "the window may have closed.'' I would love Chanda to prove me wrong. However, Chanda's current quality is just not up to the top ten caliber. She has some serious work to do IMO.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:08 AM
As I said, "the window may have closed.'' I would love Chanda to prove me wrong. However, Chanda's current quality is just not up to the top ten caliber. She has some serious work to do IMO.

i totally agree with you. i'm not some insane fan who thinks it's going to happen. i just know chanda that chanda still has what it takes, and i know she has always done what it takes to get back to the top and that she always has.

kabuki
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:10 AM
i totally agree with you. i'm not some insane fan who thinks it's going to happen. i just know chanda that chanda still has what it takes, and i know she has always done what it takes to get back to the top and that she always has.

Good luck (for once in her career) to Chanda. :D

vogus
Aug 19th, 2004, 06:12 AM
The Chanda fans are engaging in wishful thinking IMO. Players don't usually mount sustained assaults on the Top 10 after age 28. But like you said switzy, we'll just have to "weight and see."

Dana i totally agree with you that Chanda "never had that edge" - very well put - that's why she never made Top 5, bcuz 7 or 8 years ago, she had the talent to do it.

tterb
Aug 19th, 2004, 07:31 AM
i'm not going to dignify this thread with response.

except to say that chanda has never given up before, and i have complete faith in her and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

chanda was ranked in the top ten at the start of '04 so she couldn't be relying solely on a great summer from the year before last. great run 2 years ago vogus?? last year she made tokyo semis losing to champ dav in 3 tight sets, IW quarters beating red hot sugiyama losing to red hot clijsters, miami semis beating amelie 6-2, 6-0 and justine 6-3, 6-2, got inured, won madrid, RG quarters, won eastbourne, got injured, made 2 more finals, made YEC played great tennis beating in form mauresmo, pushing clijsters, before choking at 6-3, 5-2 against dementieva, led eventual champ henin by a break in 3rd set in sydney, made Aus Open 4th round losing pretty tough match to myskina, made toyko semis but had to pull out due to injury, played 5 tournaments since and has had 2 bad losses to in form myskina in 3rd round of 2 tier Is, 1 bad loss to in form mauresmo in 3rd round of olympics, loss to eventual semi-finalist dementieva 7-5, 7-6(8) in 3rd round, and one "bad" loss to bartoli in her first match back 6-7, 4-6.

ok i dignified the thread with response but it was worth it. i know people say chanda gets injured too much to be a force etc etc but the fact is that she has been injured throughout her career and IMO has been one of the greatest players ever at overcoming injuries - she's had 3 knee re-constructions for god's sake . she's always been a patchy player, and i freely admit that when she doesn't have her rhythm she is terrible, but i see no reason why she will not find it again given that she hasn't played much, she's very fit cardio wise, and has always found it in the past.

let's just wait and see.

switz --> :worship:

I don't think Chanda should be counted out after the comebacks she's had. I don't think Chanda's perceived lack of success or underachieving is due to a lack of killer instinct either... It's mostly that Chanda is an extremely streaky player who is unfortunately very prone to injury. Chanda was on the verge of the top 5 at one point. Her entire career could have been worlds different without that wrist injury in '96. Or the multiple knee surgeries. :sad:

But from her comeback in 2002 to the beginning of 2004 (except for the weak results at Wimbly and USO '03), she made big steps as far as consistency. She was a solid top 10 player during that period. I'm not sure if she will do it again, but I don't think it's at all unrealistic to believe she has the capability, especially given her comeback history. :)

tennisjam
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:41 PM
hope not

she deserves more than that

but she did wasted few important occasions in the past

Experimentee
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:52 PM
The Chanda fans are engaging in wishful thinking IMO. Players don't usually mount sustained assaults on the Top 10 after age 28. But like you said switzy, we'll just have to "weight and see."

Dana i totally agree with you that Chanda "never had that edge" - very well put - that's why she never made Top 5, bcuz 7 or 8 years ago, she had the talent to do it.

She never made the top 5 because she injured her knee shortly after reaching her career high ranking of 6, and that put her out for a while.
Certainly she has the talent to make the top 10 again, and its absolutely ridiculous to rule her out. She was in the top 10 last year before her injury so theres no reason why she cant get there again if she stays healthy.

V-MAC
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:53 PM
http://www.dailyworld.com/html/52EE1B90-BA0D-4834-A58B-3EC4D2E16CCA.shtml

Here is an interesting article on Chanda which states that she "declined to comment" after her match against Amelie yesterday.It shows how upset she must have been but hopefully it will also encourage her to WORK on her serve as it is obviously her achilles heal right now.I hate saying this but maybe she should look to Justine for inspiration.:o anyway, C'mon Chanda, I really want to see you playing well again :)

Jane
Aug 19th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Unfortunately, I don't see Chanda getting back to the top. I just don't think she will be able to stay healthy long enough to gain any momentum although I think she will still be capeable of causing the occasional major upset. Chanda has come back from a lot of injuries during her career, but those comeback's get harder and harder, both physically and psycologically, as a player gets older and the injuries accumulate.

Bероника
Aug 19th, 2004, 03:56 PM
wow i'm impressed with how many future tellers we have in wta world :rolleyes:

sartrista7
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:13 PM
I don't know why people are putting any stock into her current results. She's only played a few tournaments since her comeback... obviously she isn't going to be anywhere near full strength yet. She'll probably fall a bit more in the rankings this year because of how much she has to defend, but there's no reason why she can't be at least top 15 again next year. Depends how much she wants to make yet another comeback.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:47 PM
The Chanda fans are engaging in wishful thinking IMO. Players don't usually mount sustained assaults on the Top 10 after age 28. But like you said switzy, we'll just have to "weight and see."

Dana i totally agree with you that Chanda "never had that edge" - very well put - that's why she never made Top 5, bcuz 7 or 8 years ago, she had the talent to do it.

come on vogus, she had the edge, but it's inevitable that 3 knee re-constructions are going to blunt it a bit. at the start of 96 she was 19, ranked no.6 in the world, had just made the Aus Open Semis beating sanchez 16-14, and having match points against monica, and won the doubles. she had to have her first knee re-construction straight after - at 19!! can you imagine how hard that would have been.

i just think she is given so little credit for how she has fought throughout her career and what she has achieved. she has beaten almost all the big names including hingis when she was virtually unbeaten (and she killed her), serena in her best year, henin, mauresmo, capriati, davenport blah blah blah.

i don't care at all if people want to right off patty or any of my other favourites but i will defend chanda to the end of the earth - i love her.

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:51 PM
http://www.dailyworld.com/html/52EE1B90-BA0D-4834-A58B-3EC4D2E16CCA.shtml

Here is an interesting article on Chanda which states that she "declined to comment" after her match against Amelie yesterday.It shows how upset she must have been but hopefully it will also encourage her to WORK on her serve as it is obviously her achilles heal right now.I hate saying this but maybe she should look to Justine for inspiration.:o anyway, C'mon Chanda, I really want to see you playing well again :)

she doesn't need to look any further than herself for inspiration. chanda surely nows what it takes to come back from injury. it's like people think this is her first ever comeback after an injury free career and she doesn't know how to cope because she never faced challenges like this in her career at any point

switz
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:53 PM
I don't know why people are putting any stock into her current results. She's only played a few tournaments since her comeback... obviously she isn't going to be anywhere near full strength yet. She'll probably fall a bit more in the rankings this year because of how much she has to defend, but there's no reason why she can't be at least top 15 again next year. Depends how much she wants to make yet another comeback.

i don't understand this post - it's far too optimistic. please add some negative comments.

Paneru
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Ms.Rubin may just have a few more
tricks up her sleeve! :cool: