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bandabou
Aug 17th, 2004, 11:13 PM
How GOOD the sisters were back in ī02- ī03 just before their injuries. Man, just re-watching the Oz open final. Man, those were SOME rallies these two played.

And I think if they both can reach that level again, then we might watch some williams-williams finals again.

Anna F'd Enrique
Aug 17th, 2004, 11:16 PM
that was my favorite williams sister final....except i hated the ending...

bandabou
Aug 17th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Uhum...their best match for sure. I think it was the last good slam final.

Stamp Paid
Aug 17th, 2004, 11:24 PM
Uhum...their best match for sure. I think it was the last good slam final.
It was. I wish ESPN Classic would replay it again! http://wtaworld.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

SzavayFi
Aug 17th, 2004, 11:55 PM
yea i liked the wimby final too, with venus resurgance after rolland garros even though she lost.

mboyle
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:15 AM
That was a very good match that Venus would have won if she hadn't been such a nutcase when facing Serena:p . When everyone's at her best, Serena is the best player in the world, followed by JHH, followed by Venus (though I suspect that will be Sharapova in a year's time.)

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:23 AM
Who blamed Maria fans for starting senseless threads about how good she is again? :lol: A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black...:p

Anyway...To get on topic...I agree the Williams sisters played some great tennis back then...:)

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:50 AM
Who blamed Maria fans for starting senseless threads about how good she is again? :lol: A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black...:p

Anyway...To get on topic...I agree the Williams sisters played some great tennis back then...:)

pot and the kettle, huh?! :lol:

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:11 AM
That was a very good match that Venus would have won if she hadn't been such a nutcase when facing Serena:p . When everyone's at her best, Serena is the best player in the world, followed by JHH, followed by Venus (though I suspect that will be Sharapova in a year's time.)
Just how is Justine better than Venus when everyone's at their best??

Philbo
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:23 AM
When everyone is at their best the Williams are still the best...

Im betting on Venus to win the Olympics - I just have this strong belief that the Olympics and the US Open is gonna be where the sisters say enough is enough and reclaim their places as the two best..

I wouldnt call the Aus final a great match - it was very sloppy and erratic mixed with some amazing displays of athleticism...

The thing about the all Williams finals is that because of their amazing athleticism, most of the rallies dont end with winners - Serena or Venus will hit shots that are gonna be winners against 98% of the tour, but against each other they are able to stretch and get a raquet on the ball but often still miss cuz they are at full stretch - so it makes it look like th rally ended with an error, but against anoyne else it would have been a winner..

I enjoy their matches for the athleticism and watching how much court both girls can cover...pretty awesome..

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:29 AM
That OZ match did have errors, but half of them came after long rallies. There wasn't too much making errors on the second or third shot.

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 11:59 AM
Uhum....there were some very very long rallies in that match and as czechfan said with some amazing display of movement and athletiscism.

And mboyle...at their best it is Serena and Venus in any order and then the rest.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:04 PM
pot and the kettle, huh?! :lol: Haha! Well...As long as you don't start 8 threads about the WS in 8 minutes...Then you won't hear me complain...;)

Canova
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:07 PM
I hope there won't be anymore williams v williams final's at Grand Slams.

PS the game i would replay again and again would be the ladies wimbledon final 2004, that was good.

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:17 PM
Haha! Well...As long as you don't start 8 threads about the WS in 8 minutes...Then you won't hear me complain...;)


I donīt need to do it....the truth is out there, isnīt it?! :lol:

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:18 PM
I hope there won't be anymore williams v williams final's at Grand Slams.

PS the game i would replay again and again would be the ladies wimbledon final 2004, that was good.


Donīt tell me?!

Canova
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Yes ok i won't remind you again. I agree the oz open final was good, but so was the wimbledon 2004 final.

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:36 PM
Yes ok i won't remind you again. I agree the oz open final was good, but so was the wimbledon 2004 final.

Uhum...everytime you get a new champ it is good..could have been better though. ;)

Canova
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Uhum...everytime you get a new champ it is good..could have been better though. ;)

Well the champion couldn't have been better. Hope you meant better as 3 sets instead of 2?

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:05 PM
I donīt need to do it....the truth is out there, isnīt it?! :lol: Whatever...But don't forget: Maria is the greatest ever! :haha::p

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:27 PM
Whatever...But don't forget: Maria is the greatest ever! :haha::p


Told ya..the truth is out there.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Told ya..the truth is out there. You sure do like truth don't you? Having it in your signature and all...:)

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Well the champion couldn't have been better. Hope you meant better as 3 sets instead of 2?

final..not the champ. ;)

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:49 PM
How GOOD the sisters were back in ī02- ī03 just before their injuries. Man, just re-watching the Oz open final. Man, those were SOME rallies these two played.

And I think if they both can reach that level again, then we might watch some williams-williams finals again.
I was in Rod Laver Arena for that match, under the closed roof, and didn't care for the match at all boo- way too many unforced errors from both players. It was an ugly tennis match, and the Aussie fans knew it as well, because IMO they are the most knowledgeable tennis fans on the planet- tennis is HUGE in Australia, and rightfully so. My greatest thrill was meeting Ilie Nastase on the stairs outside the arena after the match- he was there supporting the Rumanian junior players who were playing on an outside court that day...

Helen Lawson
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:03 PM
I love sitting back and watching "Smash Up: The Story of a Woman," "My Foolish Heart," and "I Want to Live!" It really reminds me how great an actress I was in the prime. I OWNED the 50's in film.

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:05 PM
I love sitting back and watching "Smash Up: The Story of a Woman," "My Foolish Heart," and "I Want to Live!" It really reminds me how great an actress I was in the prime. I OWNED the 50's in film.
Don't let Doris Day read this, sweetie! She's still out in the back yard brushing her collie next to an 8x10 glossie of Fred MacMurray...:lol:

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:29 PM
You sure do like truth don't you? Having it in your signature and all...:)


You donīt have to like the truth...the truth about the truth is that you have to know and accept the truth.

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:32 PM
I was in Rod Laver Arena for that match, under the closed roof, and didn't care for the match at all boo- way too many unforced errors from both players. It was an ugly tennis match, and the Aussie fans knew it as well, because IMO they are the most knowledgeable tennis fans on the planet- tennis is HUGE in Australia, and rightfully so. My greatest thrill was meeting Ilie Nastase on the stairs outside the arena after the match- he was there supporting the Rumanian junior players who were playing on an outside court that day...


I see...it had ufeīs, no doubt. but there some amazing rallis and gets too.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:42 PM
You donīt have to like the truth...the truth about the truth is that you have to know and accept the truth. I fully agree...

The problem is however...Who decides what the truth is? If you were to discuss this subject you would end up in an infinite discussion...

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:53 PM
I fully agree...

The problem is however...Who decides what the truth is? If you were to discuss this subject you would end up in an infinite discussion...

Yep...because there is no truth to what the truth really is...but in the end: there is only ONE truth. Thing is: It can be seen in numerous ways.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 02:56 PM
Yep...because there is no truth to what the truth really is...but in the end: there is only ONE truth. Thing is: It can be seen in numerous ways. Correct! It reminds me of The Matrix...Nobody knows what the truth is...There is only ONE truth, I agree with that...But the truth is people make up their own truth and try to sell that to other people as THE truth...

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:03 PM
Correct! It reminds me of The Matrix...Nobody knows what the truth is...There is only ONE truth, I agree with that...But the truth is people make up their own truth and try to sell that to other people as THE truth...


And that rises the question: What IS the truth?!

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:05 PM
And that rises the question: What IS the truth?! Inkoppertje...Maria is the greatest of all times! :lol:
But seriously...that is one difficult question...

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Inkoppertje...Maria is the greatest of all times! :lol:
But seriously...that is one difficult question...

:lol: It is, huh?!

hoe laat speelt oranje vandaag?!

Helen Lawson
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:13 PM
The big difference between films and tennis is that you can take multiple takes of a scene to fix any mistakes. My performance in "I Want to Live!" is flawless from beginning to end, no flubbed lines, expressions and movement always perfect, no errors. If I messed up, we just redid the scene. In tennis, you don't get to redo the point if you make a mistake.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:17 PM
:lol: It is, huh?!

hoe laat speelt oranje vandaag?! Pfff...Geen idee eigenlijk...FF kijken...
SBS, begint om 19:55...

Maar ja, is dat wel de waarheid? :lol:

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:19 PM
The big difference between films and tennis is that you can take multiple takes of a scene to fix any mistakes. My performance in "I Want to Live!" is flawless from beginning to end, no flubbed lines, expressions and movement always perfect, no errors. If I messed up, we just redid the scene. In tennis, you don't get to redo the point if you make a mistake.
I have to admit, I thought Elizabeth Taylor's Maggie-the-Cat was THE performance for 1958- she didn't have to do multiple takes- it was Liz to a T, and not a T as in Todd, either, but yes, you were terrific in "I Want To Live!"

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Pfff...Geen idee eigenlijk...FF kijken...
SBS, begint om 19:55...

Maar ja, is dat wel de waarheid? :lol:
Why am I suddenly getting visions of the Swedish Chef from the Muppets?

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:22 PM
Why am I suddenly getting visions of the Swedish Chef from the Muppets? :haha:I have no idea! Please explain...

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:25 PM
:haha:I have no idea! Please explain...
Bork Bork Bork!

bandabou
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:28 PM
Pfff...Geen idee eigenlijk...FF kijken...
SBS, begint om 19:55...

Maar ja, is dat wel de waarheid? :lol:


We assume it is.....:lol:

Helen Lawson
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:29 PM
I have to admit, I thought Elizabeth Taylor's Maggie-the-Cat was THE performance for 1958- she didn't have to do multiple takes- it was Liz to a T, and not a T as in Todd, either, but yes, you were terrific in "I Want To Live!"
Liz has that affect on people, they don't realize she's just playing her glamorous self in every movie. Let's get real, from Butterfield 8 to Virginia Woolf, she's just playing out different phases of her own life!

All I can say is, I'm 1-0 against Liz at the Oscars, and I never married a construction worker or sold perfume. Sadly, that's about all I have on Liz.

Frank
Aug 18th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Bork Bork Bork! :unsure: