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Al_Neri
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Do you think, say in 10 years time, could be even earlier. That instead of having (I have no idea, I rarely look at the rankings) so many Russians in the top 20, there could be say 8 Chinese in the top 20?
Surely itís just a matter of time before China starts to produce top class tennis players, isnít it?

Pengwin
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:52 PM
of course, jie zheng at RG this year and the magnificant doubles performance against team USA yesterday

Dave B
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Do you think, say in 10 years time, could be even earlier. That instead of having (I have no idea, I rarely look at the rankings) so many Russians in the top 20, there could be say 8 Chinese in the top 20?
Surely itís just a matter of time before China starts to produce top class tennis players, isnít it?

That is a little lofty. I am sure that the Chinese will improve, but I would be surprised if anything like the Russian invasion occured again.

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:57 PM
they'd have to go democratic first. Because, while I'm not sure, aren't there restrictions involved here?

Wasnt that the issue with Russia?

Besides while Chineese athleets are good, they were never as strong as the Russians were historically.

azza
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:59 PM
:haha: 8 in top 20 LMFAO laugh of the day :spit: :rolls:

mboyle
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:33 PM
Not until China is completely capitalistic will there be a "Chinese Invasion" of the tennis ranks. So long as they are restricted in tournament play and cannot keep their earnings (even so long as they can't choose their own doubles partners:rolleyes: ) the idiotic system known as Communism will prevent Chinese tennis from being what it could/should be.

pcrtennis
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:36 PM
China has a ton of talent coming up...If Na Li wouldn't have gotten sick a couple of years back she would be a top 20/top 10 player right now...still can be. Shuai Peng will deffinately make it up there too. Plus Ting Li, Jie Zheng, Yan Ze Xie, Nan Nan Liu, Tian Tian Sun and Zi Yan who are all young and talented.

pcrtennis
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Not until China is completely capitalistic will there be a "Chinese Invasion" of the tennis ranks. So long as they are restricted in tournament play and cannot keep their earnings (even so long as they can't choose their own doubles partners:rolleyes: ) the idiotic system known as Communism will prevent Chinese tennis from being what it could/should be.


Do you know what you're talking about...? :confused: Doesn't sound like it... :rolleyes:

Pengwin
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:41 PM
they'd have to go democratic first. Because, while I'm not sure, aren't there restrictions involved here?

Wasnt that the issue with Russia?

Besides while Chineese athleets are good, they were never as strong as the Russians were historically.


hmm if there were restrictions like this how come they have so many aheletes competing and even if there were how would this affect their performances

also china is economically capitalist now and they are encouraging people to get into sports because they are putting a helluvalot of effort into making Beijing 2008 as great as possible

Rafe306
Aug 18th, 2004, 01:26 AM
yea i was thinking the same thing..imo yes i think there will be a lot of tough chinese competors in the years to come..hell maybe in 5 years, there's just many talented up and coming players

Jakeev
Aug 18th, 2004, 04:03 AM
Communism has nothing to do with how the Chinese will be performing as tennis players in the next four years. Kind of a bogus excuse if you ask me.

If that were the case, China would not be excelling in other sports, which has been very evident so far in Athens.

So here are the facts about the Chinese women and tennis. It's a harder sport for them to excel at. They need to be taller, stronger and have more stamina to compete with the big girls of tennis.

Many of the girls seem to be very speedy, but I have only noticed a few that actually rely on their great mobility to defend well on court. Mentally, most the girls don't seem to have what it takes to win matches consistently week to week.

I think we will need to see players more powerful and probably faster than say Jie Zheng and Shua Peng.

Now whether or not a Venus Williams of China exists I don't know, but to me that will be the key to seeing more top Chinese players on the horizon.

kabuki
Aug 18th, 2004, 05:59 AM
The average Chinese woman, or Asian woman for that matter does not have the height to compete at the top level. I know, I know, JHH is 5'5 and the Chinese Volleyball team has a 6'6 player, but JHH power,speed, and touch are absolutely exceptional and the 6'6 Chinese girl is an abberation. There may easily be a top 10 Chinese player, but they will not appear in hordes like the Russians.

Al_Neri
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:53 AM
Communism has nothing to do with how the Chinese will be performing as tennis players in the next four years. Kind of a bogus excuse if you ask me.

If that were the case, China would not be excelling in other sports, which has been very evident so far in Athens.

So here are the facts about the Chinese women and tennis. It's a harder sport for them to excel at. They need to be taller, stronger and have more stamina to compete with the big girls of tennis.

Many of the girls seem to be very speedy, but I have only noticed a few that actually rely on their great mobility to defend well on court. Mentally, most the girls don't seem to have what it takes to win matches consistently week to week.

I think we will need to see players more powerful and probably faster than say Jie Zheng and Shua Peng.

Now whether or not a Venus Williams of China exists I don't know, but to me that will be the key to seeing more top Chinese players on the horizon.

Why must a Venus Williams type exist in China? Why not the current Number 1 type Justine Henin, a far more naturally talented player.
After all she's not 6 foot tall.:)

Spunky83
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:04 AM
The average Chinese woman, or Asian woman for that matter does not have the height to compete at the top level. I know, I know, JHH is 5'5 and the Chinese Volleyball team has a 6'6 player, but JHH power,speed, and touch are absolutely exceptional and the 6'6 Chinese girl is an abberation. There may easily be a top 10 Chinese player, but they will not appear in hordes like the Russians.

I think the chance is big that out of the one billion people over there, that there will be at least three, four talented, tall and strong players...I feel so ashamed of my average 5,35 ft height due to my origin (though I am considered as tall in China... :lol: )

Pengwin
Aug 18th, 2004, 08:12 AM
china did sweep the board in women's weightlifting, they are in no way weak

Al_Neri
Aug 24th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Hey! Olympic Gold in the Doubles, could be the start of things to come, who knows!:)

jacs
Aug 24th, 2004, 10:41 AM
True communism does and could not exist. Isn't what China have now Socialism?

Bigboi
Aug 24th, 2004, 11:15 AM
There can certainly be an abundance of tennis players soon, it depends if the party push for tennis players or not, coz the system over there is pretty tuff and they can make an athlete in any sport
And all you saying Chinese are too small, thats wrong im chinese and im about 192cm and every chinese girl i know is about 180cm

Al_Neri
Aug 24th, 2004, 11:17 AM
I never knew there were height requirements to be a tennis player.

Doublebackhand
Aug 24th, 2004, 03:02 PM
kind of interesting to read foreigners' comments on the chinese system..
i think tennis will definitely grow in popularity in china and i wont be surpised that in 5-10 years time there are a few top 20ers from china.
even if a 6'6 tall chinese girl is an aberration..u know how many girls are there in china? 600 million, a 1% abberration is 6 million..crunch some numbers! and all we need is just a handful of them.

NicoMary
Aug 24th, 2004, 03:27 PM
As much as they are it might exist a Henin, clijsters, serena, Vťnus, Mauresmo, Davenport's type of player in china...and 8 chinese in the top 20 in 20 years could really really be possible

kabuki
Aug 24th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Anything is possible, but as I said, I doubt there will be several Chinese women in the top 10 at the same time in the next 10 years. The doubles gold will def help energize the programs in China, but tour dominance is not likely IMHO.

ClockoftheWalk
Aug 24th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Government style has nothing to do with it.

Look at how the game is expanding in China ... and look at their successes in other racquet sports .... the WTA has given them a large tournament this year, and I expect it to be a hit, and a few of their players are making some solid inroads onto the tour. Yes, I expect the trickle to turn into a downpour.