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jaecigar
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:34 AM
Does anyone know if the top players who have husbands and boyfriends are more settled and play better tennis/get more consistent results?
Obviously it works for Justine, Kim and Lindsay (plus Amelie has a long term partner) but what about Elena D, Anastasia, Jennifer and the other young Russians.

Note I am not sure of Venus or Serena's status hence did not include above although I think thye both have boyfriends if one reads the press.


;) :lick: ;)

vogus
Aug 17th, 2004, 03:23 AM
the majority of evidence would suggest the exact opposite - that is, the women play better before they are settled down with a man, it keeps them hungry. Look at Graf, never really had a steady boyfriend while she was winning all those slams, look at Seles at her best in the early '90s, was the same thing. Hingis had a bunch of different revolving door boyfriends when she was winning slams. Jen Capriati was unattached when she mounted her great comeback in '01 to win two GS titles. Davenport was a better player, and won her three slams, before she got engaged to that guy she married. Venus and Serena weren't in relationships from 2000 to 2003 when they were dominating the tour.

The only one i can think of that supports your case is Henin - but then Justine was also attached to Pierre-Ives when she wasn't playing so well a few years back. And the Clijsters/Hewitt pairing seems to be positive for Kim's tennis, but certainly not for Lleyton's.

doris5085
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:15 AM
Well, I partially agree with you Vogus; I think Sylvie also had a positive influence on Mauremo's tennis...but wait...the question is about husbands/boyfriends...lol is my answer out of topic ? lol

Icarus Wings
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:28 PM
The year Anna Smashnova hooked up with her coach (Pistolesi) she won four tournaments and reached the WTA Championships.

SzavayFi
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Patty Schnyder is one of them i'd say.

I love Mary
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Francesco Elia is the best train for Silvia. :kiss: :kiss:

I think that also Roberto Alomar has been good for Mary.

Spunky83
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I just know that Myskina´s boyfriend has forbidden her to do further nude shots...she said that in a recent interview, lol. Why would he say that? I dunno;)

But still I guess Pierre-Yves is the most "effective" husband there is at the moment. Interestingly she started to get the big results after her wedding...

Rothes
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:39 PM
Patty Schnyder is one of them i'd say.
She certainly has had a more consistent year then other years ie 2000, 2001.
Rainer seems to be a good influence when he is with Patty.
He wasn't allowed into the United States during their Hardcourt season this year and Patty preformed poorley.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:40 PM
She certainly has had a more consistent year then other years ie 2000, 2001.
Rainer seems to be a good influence when he is with Patty.
He wasn't allowed into the United States during their Hardcourt season this year and Patty preformed poorley.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rothes
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:44 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Your hatred for Rainer is only Personal JR :o ..but to be honest Rainer is a good influence on Patty. He seems to want to get on with life and seems genuine.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:57 PM
Your hatred for Rainer is only Personal JR :o ..but to be honest Rainer is a good influence on Patty. He seems to want to get on with life and seems genuine.For such a God-fearing young woman :p you disappoint me. The son of a bitch concealed his criminal past from the Schnyders (what he pled guilty to in '02 occured between '95 and '98) in order to "get the case" (rescuing her from the Equally Evil Harnecker).

He then (despite already being married, BTW) "accepted her as payment" (a then 20 y.o. with projected big success and money awaiting) though he still fathered a child by his then wife B4 leaving, as proven by a DNA test he bitterly resisted, as He Has re. alimony To This day.

So whether his PP (Putrid Presence) helps her win tennis matches or not is secondary to me (and would be 2U if religion were more than your merely regurgitating biblical passages). Talk To her kid brother sometime about the family this Fuck Finished ripping apart.

fifiricci
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:59 PM
And the Clijsters/Hewitt pairing seems to be positive for Kim's tennis, but certainly not for Lleyton's.
I think that's a tad mean! Kim and Lleyton were a couple when Lleyts won the US Open, Wimbly and was No 1 for aeons!!

Or are you suggesting that this is the "kiss of death"? :p

http://membres.lycos.fr/isabellea15/kim-lleyton/kl16.jpg

Rothes
Aug 17th, 2004, 01:08 PM
For such a God-fearing young woman :p you disappoint me. The son of a bitch concealed his criminal past from the Schnyders (what he pled guilty to in '02 occured between '95 and '98) in order to "get the case" (rescuing her from the Equally Evil Harnecker).

He then (despite already being married, BTW) "accepted her as payment" (a then 20 y.o. with projected big success and money awaiting) though he still fathered a child by his then wife B4 leaving, as proven by a DNA test he bitterly resisted, as He Has re. alimony To This day.

So whether his PP (Putrid Presence) helps her win tennis matches or not is secondary to me (and would be 2U if religion were more than your merely regurgitating biblical passages). Talk To her kid brother sometime about the family this Fuck Finished ripping apart.
Thanks Sherlock Holmes but you have regurgitated the same news as before.

For The Patty Fans We will adhere to Patty's Tennis Career and say that Rainer is making Progress with Patty which he is, and as long as Patty is happy and comfortable with her new profound lifestyle and helps build her Tennis, then as a fan thats all that matters, wanting to see Patty preform well is an ultimatim, and also being happy in herlife.

Being Religious or not Religious, no need to bring additional issues into the topic and try to make some intergration.

vogus
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:07 PM
Patty is playing about the same this year as she played all the other 5 years she was with Hofmann - that is, bad to average, with an occasional very good result thrown in. She played her best tennis of the year (the last two years, really) during the US clay season when Hofmann wasn't allowed to come. Then last month, she played not very well on the West Coast without him. She reached Aus Open semis (no big wins, but still a strong showing) with Hofmann there, but then she played terrible at Wimbie and (especially) the French Open with him there in her corner. I'd say his influence is just another random factor, it's hard to say overall whether it's good or bad at the moment. In any case it's not worth having the same argument about that we have already had a lot of times.

**I'm talking about Hofmann's influence on Patty's TENNIS of course. His influence on Patty as a PERSON is a totally different question, and IMO it's pretty clear what that influence has been.** Hofmann is an unapologetic, convicted thief and con man. This is a guy who has no morality or conscience whatsoever.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Being Religious or not Religious, no need to bring additional issues into the topic and try to make some intergration.The err, Hell I won't! In NT, you're oh-so-ready To Tell ppl here That They're defying "God's Laws" etc. (for the "crime" of being gay, for example). But when *OMG* a professional tennis player is an embarrassment to her family, her profession, and her/your country, that's OK huh? :rolleyes:

David Barker
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Lets hope Lina Krasnoroutskaya's marriage in September will inspire her! (Although to be fair her recent slump is more due to injuries than anything else)

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:11 PM
**I'm talking about Hofmann's influence on Patty's TENNIS of course. His influence on Patty as a PERSON is a totally different question, and IMO it's pretty clear what that influence has been.** Hofmann is an unapologetic, convicted thief and con man. This is a guy who has no morality or conscience whatsoever.:worship: :worship: :worship:

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Lets hope Lina Krasnoroutskaya's marriage in September will inspire her! (Although to be fair her recent slump is more due to injuries than anything else)Et le Placid Parisian, Nathalie Dechy, also a Sept. bride 2B. ;)

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:16 PM
For such a God-fearing young woman :p you disappoint me. The son of a bitch concealed his criminal past from the Schnyders (what he pled guilty to in '02 occured between '95 and '98) in order to "get the case" (rescuing her from the Equally Evil Harnecker).

He then (despite already being married, BTW) "accepted her as payment" (a then 20 y.o. with projected big success and money awaiting) though he still fathered a child by his then wife B4 leaving, as proven by a DNA test he bitterly resisted, as He Has re. alimony To This day.

So whether his PP (Putrid Presence) helps her win tennis matches or not is secondary to me (and would be 2U if religion were more than your merely regurgitating biblical passages). Talk To her kid brother sometime about the family this Fuck Finished ripping apart.


OOOh oooh, i need details, this is all new to me? Please give me a link. What happened, when, where, with who? Patty and Rainer have/had a relationship? excuse the ignorance, butcha gotta start somewhere.

Helen Lawson
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:19 PM
I did my best work when I was with Jess and Floyd.

Rothes
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:24 PM
The err, Hell I won't! In NT, you're oh-so-ready To Tell ppl here That They're defying "God's Laws" etc. (for the "crime" of being gay, for example). But when *OMG* a professional tennis player is an embarrassment to her family, her profession, and her/your country, that's OK huh? :rolleyes:
I don't care, Hoffman has no presence in my life and likley will never, I don't care for him, but If Patty is happy with him then I am happy.

You be the Investigator if you please, I will buy you a English Paddington Hat and a Magnifying glass if you want. :o

Again, some Patty supporters just want to support Patty and hope she achieves her ultimatim, it gets a little hard on here when your constantly coming into threads with your "play on words" and smothering everything with Convicted Criminal this and Convicted Criminal That.

Until you actually have news to report on the issue, then post, otherwise you are being rude and insolent.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:30 PM
OOOh oooh, i need details, this is all new to me? Please give me a link. What happened, when, where, with who? Patty and Rainer have/had a relationship? excuse the ignorance, butcha gotta start somewhere.Most of It Is In old articles in her forum on this board (switch your "default" from "past 30 days" to "past year"). And for the record, Convicted Criminal never bothered having an English rebuttal posted (He Has a Few Friendly bi-lingual journalists who could have written it) despite saying he would.

Shenanigans
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:30 PM
I'm not sure if it does make a difference there are alot of happy single people but I think if you have a fight with your boyfriend or there is problems in the relationship or other personal problems this would effect your tennis more.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:32 PM
Convicted Criminal this and Convicted Criminal That.
Would you like Frankfurt Felon better, perhaps? :p

Rothes
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Would you like Frankfurt Felon better, perhaps? :p
I would like nothing if thats alright, oh and hold the frankfurter please.

*JR*
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:41 PM
I would like nothing if thats alright, oh and hold the frankfurter please.Well Rothes, RU willing to stop "judging" ppl on this board who are probably FAR superior morally to Herr Hofmann, just because they happen 2B gay? (And don't even Try That Tired old "hate the sin, but love the sinner" copout).

irma
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:46 PM
I am still convinced Steffi at the us open 92 was lethargic out of love troubles

at wimbledon that photographer was still there and at the masters she was in a hurry to get in a camper with michael b. so she must have switched somewhere in between :lol: