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Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 07:34 PM
All that for a 1st round lost 26 06 over Silvia Farina-Elia ....

Oh yeah, she really deserves to be in Athens

That' s PATHETIC !!!!!

Tatiana Golovin, we miss you .....

Rtael
Aug 16th, 2004, 08:54 PM
Grow up sweety.

SilK
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:01 PM
i think this was Sandrine's last chance on the Olympic experience... and Tati will be around much longer, he Olympic time will come!

azza
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Sadrine Deserved it more then Golovin.

Scotso
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Yeah, you do need to grow up.

No one is bashing the other players who lost by bad scorelines, should they not have shown up as well?

Sandrine and Nathalie won their doubles match, and make a great team... she has a chance to medal in the doubles.

Love you, Sandrine! :kiss:

I love Mary
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Don't worry Sandrine, you'll do better in doubles.

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:29 PM
Sandrine did/has done more with her career than Golovin .. and Golovin will have plenty of other chances but this was the French Federations way of thanking her for all shes done

GoSandrine
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:30 PM
It's a shame that a few fickle French posters see fit to continue bashing one of their own, someone who helped France win a Fed Cup and provided so many great victories over top players. :rolleyes:

Ignore the haters, Sandrine. There are plenty of fans around the world that still love you and we Americans look forward to welcoming you back to New York with open arms :hug:

Now go win the doubles with Nathalie :kiss:

Anna F'd Enrique
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Testud won in doubles so ha.....

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:35 PM
I disagree and I protest!!!!

I'm sorry, in all the other sports, people who were good in the past, aren' t selected if they aren' t good the year of the Olympic games !!!

I have so many exemple.

If Sandrine had a great fight, I had said " bravo " but 26 06, that' s pathetic!!!!

GREAT champions know when they have to go to an event or not! That' s why she isn' t a great champion.

Tatiana Golovin deserved the selection, she is french number 4 !!!!! They said like me on french television, and they were totaly true !!!!!

Pathetic fiasco, she should have stay at home !!!!!

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:36 PM
Testud won in doubles so ha.....
Yeah, but that' s not mean that she deserved the selection for singles!

I love Mary
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Do you think that Golovin could leave France for Russia??

GoSandrine
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:37 PM
:yawn:

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:39 PM
It's a shame that a few fickle French posters see fit to continue bashing one of their own, someone who helped France win a Fed Cup and provided so many great victories over top players. :rolleyes:

Ignore the haters, Sandrine. There are plenty of fans around the world that still love you and we Americans look forward to welcoming you back to New York with open arms :hug:

Now go win the doubles with Nathalie :kiss:
And I protest again. I'm not a hater of her. i was so happy when she won Leipzig and Palermo tournaments!

I just says that she was not at her place in the singles tournament, and that was " beaucoup de bruit pour rien " like Shaekspear wrote !!!!!

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Do you think that Golovin could leave France for Russia??
You're out of topic. Golovin is french like me, I don' t see why she were in Russia, France, Congo or Germany!

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:43 PM
It's not like Golovin would have won a medal anyway, so get over it.

Sandrine had the chance to play the Olympics, she was selected... Why would she say no when she has the chance to play? THINK about it for more than 2 seconds.

I do contest the ITF decision too, but it doesn't mean Sandrine should be bashed.I don' t bash her !!!!! I just say the truth !!!!!

And, I'm certain that if Golovin have Testud's place in the draw, she could play a semi final !!!!!

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Sandrine is wayyyy more French than Golovin so get another idea sweety.

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Well in the thread title, you were being sarcastic "Congratulations Sandrine Testud", and then you go on about the poor result of Testud against Farina, then you say it's pathetic... So yes, you did bash Sandrine.

And you don't need to put 100 "!" at the end of each of your sentence to make your point.
Preech it.

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Sandrine is wayyyy more French than Golovin so get another idea sweety.
Pffffft, that' s n'importe quoi !!!!!

It's written on Tati's indenty card " French " and I don' t see why this girl is less french than another girl. I think you know nothing about France, so, don' t say a thing like that. You're saying than all north african aren' t really french (that's the same thing) and they are all french like me. When we don' t know, we don' t speak!

GoSandrine
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:51 PM
:scared:

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 09:52 PM
Well in the thread title, you were being sarcastic "Congratulations Sandrine Testud", and then you go on about the poor result of Testud against Farina, then you say it's pathetic... So yes, you did bash Sandrine.

And you don't need to put 100 "!" at the end of each of your sentence to make your point.
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey, I can write the number of " ! " that I want :) !!!!! ( 5 here too :p lol ).

Honestly, ok, I was sarcastic. But, I don' t want to fight with somebody, I just says my opinion.

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:05 PM
Pffffft, that' s n'importe quoi !!!!!

It's written on Tati's indenty card " French " and I don' t see why this girl is less french than another girl. I think you know nothing about France, so, don' t say a thing like that. You're saying than all north african aren' t really french (that's the same thing) and they are all french like me. When we don' t know, we don' t speak!
You said Tatis French like me...whats Sandrine.. a Mexican!?! ..

Nicoleke
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:12 PM
You said Tatis French like me...whats Sandrine.. a Mexican!?! ..
That' s stupid. I don' t talk of that with you. You even don' t know our socio-cultural context !!!!!

rated_next
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:13 PM
:scared: :cuckoo:

Tylane
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:23 PM
You said Tatis French like me...whats Sandrine.. a Mexican!?! ..

Anyway Tati never went back to Russia since...she was born so... :rolleyes:

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:29 PM
Anyway Tati never went back to Russia since...she was born so... :rolleyes:Really? Never a tournament there? .. :rolleyes:

PointBlank
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:30 PM
That' s stupid. I don' t talk of that with you. You even don' t know our socio-cultural context !!!!!
.O.k.I.E. :anzela:

SzavayFi
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Aww i just won the Aussie Open with her on a video game, lol

Tylane
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:38 PM
Sandrine did/has done more with her career than Golovin .. and Golovin will have plenty of other chances but this was the French Federations way of thanking her for all shes done

Sorry but your message is stupid.
You mean people who go to the OG have to be experienced ? Testud is 32, Golovin 16, how do you want Tati to compete with a 2X older player then her ? We can't compare.
And it's not because she'll have plenty chances to play the OG later than they have to GIVE a wildcard to the old Sandrine for thanking her for her carrier, OG are not an homage exhibition, it's a competition.

Sandrine was not in a good form enough to compete, she knows it. But she wanted so much to play...well, she was selfish, thats'all.

Maintenant, nicoleke, du calme !!! Je suis d'accord avec toi comme tu peux le voir, mais ça sert à rien de balancer ce sujet polemique ici. Surtout en employant des termes pas très diplomates. ;)

GoSandrine
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:41 PM
:baby:

Tylane
Aug 16th, 2004, 10:53 PM
:baby:

No Gosandrine, we're just realistic. Not childish. Sorry.

Scotso
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:08 AM
No, you're just pissy Golovin fans.

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:19 AM
:haha:

:baby:

Shenanigans
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:22 AM
I don't know, I haven't read any of the post because I try to say objecive, but I think the French tennis federation have fucked up a little, not just as far as Golovin is concerened but Llodra also, saw him play doubles last night, he is so strong, why wasn't he playing singles?
I think they maybe picked Sandrine cause they thought she was going to get some match practice before the Olympics and this will be her last chance, I think they choose with their heart not their head. Thinking that Golovin will have plenty more chances.
Maybe Sandrine deserved that last chance as she has had a good career and it is her reward for being a succesful french tennis player.
Golovin will have her day, she is French and is going to become very popular in France.

GoDominique
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:24 AM
Sorry, but I agree that Sandrine should not have played singles here.
She has hardly played since her comeback, and only won one match (which was 6 months ago). Even her match against Justine at RG showed that she was nowhere near her old form.
And losing 4-6 3-6 to Katalin Marosi - come on, that IS pathetic.

I don't know about French nomination procedures, but Sandrine should have concentrated on playing doubles and given her singles spot to someone else, if that was possible.

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:47 AM
Well, Sandrine played, she got her 1 point, so http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sauer/angry-smiley-048.gif.

To all the Sandrine fans: :hug:

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 07:32 AM
See Nicoleke, nearly all agrees with me!!! You were wrong on that point!!

Anyway, if they were Belgian it would be quite simple, none of them would have been selected because they aren't good enought to bring a medal! That's all...

Do you think it's more fair for Els Callens (the bronze medalist in doubles) not have been sent to the Olympics??? This is more shoking I think!

So get over it :p

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:25 AM
It's a shame that a few fickle French posters see fit to continue bashing one of their own, someone who helped France win a Fed Cup and provided so many great victories over top players. :rolleyes:

Ignore the haters, Sandrine. There are plenty of fans around the world that still love you and we Americans look forward to welcoming you back to New York with open arms :hug:

Now go win the doubles with Nathalie :kiss:



"Fickle French Posters"???? GoSandrine, I think it is part of the French national character to complain. the french love to 'spit in the soup', they protest all the time in the street etc etc.

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Pffffft, that' s n'importe quoi !!!!!

It's written on Tati's indenty card " French " and I don' t see why this girl is less french than another girl. I think you know nothing about France, so, don' t say a thing like that. You're saying than all north african aren' t really french (that's the same thing) and they are all french like me. When we don' t know, we don' t speak!

Tatiana is French.

Tylane
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:48 AM
"Fickle French Posters"???? GoSandrine, I think it is part of the French national character to complain. the french love to 'spit in the soup', they protest all the time in the street etc etc.

Ahh, one point to frogburger: it's one of our worst defaults (not spit in the soup, but to protest, râler quoi ! lol)

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:34 AM
But it is a nice trait still - it shows people that you can like someone/something but still have the courage to criticize it/them.

Brαm
Aug 17th, 2004, 10:45 AM
Do you think it's more fair for Els Callens (the bronze medalist in doubles) not have been sent to the Olympics??? This is more shoking I think!

They way Els has been playing this year... It seems fair :(
But that's :topic:

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 10:48 AM
They way Els has been playing this year... It seems fair :(
But that's :topic:
She surely had a lot of luck in the draws and good partners! (playing the seeded team in the 1st rnd, partner w/o from doubles,....)

And Els always proved that when she has to defend our country colour she always take the best out of her!

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Oui, j'ai le droit de râler quoi lol. Your post makes me laugh Tylane :D.

FrogBurger, of course that she is french, that' s what I said in all that thread :).

I'm just a bit surprise by all the bad things that people said, and said to me when they gave me bad rep points, because, I just said what I think. Maybe, I was a little bit rude, but I think that I was right. When we can't play at a high level, we don' t participate. I think that other girls deserved more the selection when we see this year results.

Dans tout les autres sports : athlétisme, natation, judo, etc, etc. Quand les athlètes, même champions du monde n'ont pas le niveau, ils ne sont pas sélectionné. Je suis un peu déçue que le tennis soit encore une exception.

And, yeah, râler quoi, protest and says what I think. I prefer to be like that, that to be someone who agree with everybody everytime :).

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 10:52 AM
They way Els has been playing this year... It seems fair :(
But that's :topic:
Well said!

And, that' s indeed off topic Come-on-kim!

sylvain
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:47 PM
I disagree and I protest!!!!

I'm sorry, in all the other sports, people who were good in the past, aren' t selected if they aren' t good the year of the Olympic games !!!

I have so many exemple.

If Sandrine had a great fight, I had said " bravo " but 26 06, that' s pathetic!!!!

GREAT champions know when they have to go to an event or not! That' s why she isn' t a great champion.

Tatiana Golovin deserved the selection, she is french number 4 !!!!! They said like me on french television, and they were totaly true !!!!!

Pathetic fiasco, she should have stay at home !!!!!
I completely agree with you! :)

TS
Aug 17th, 2004, 12:51 PM
Well at the end of the day, not only does Sandrine still get to play the sport she loves, but she gets to go home to a beautiful little girl and a happy lifestyle.

All you little brats get to do is go back home to your computers and piss and moan about something you have no control over. Get over it, nobody is listening to you.

Win or lose, she's out there enjoying herself and who are you guys to step on that buzz?? What would you do if at age 32 you got to make your Olympic debut? Turn them down? I think not

Allez Sandrine :hearts:

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Well IMO the French Tennis Federation acts like a family to their athletes - not easily discarding them, when a hot new 'potential' talent comes along. Tatiana is one of my faves, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. She has potential but a long way to go. I commend the FFT for providing good support to their athletes and providing a nice comfort zone for them, they seem to function like a healthy family.

Icarus Wings
Aug 17th, 2004, 01:04 PM
As others have said, it's not really her fault. I don't think we should expect anyone to say no to an Olympics invitation.

But I understand why Nicoleke is angry, I mean, these are the people that excluded Nathalie Tauziat in 2000 (who was top ten in the world in singles and top five in doubles) with the 'official reason' that she didn't perform well enough on hard courts the last year. And now they let Testud go?

"Sluggy"
Aug 17th, 2004, 01:11 PM
As others have said, it's not really her fault. I don't think we should expect anyone to say no to an Olympics invitation.

But I understand why Nicoleke is angry, I mean, these are the people that excluded Nathalie Tauziat in 2000 (who was top ten in the world in singles and top five in doubles) with the 'official reason' that she didn't perform well enough on hard courts the last year. And now they let Testud go?


Interesting most Icarus Wings. I did not know that about Nathalie. I did not know that was the reason she did not go..

Icarus Wings
Aug 17th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Interesting most Icarus Wings. I did not know that about Nathalie. I did not know that was the reason she did not go..

Well the real reason was because of Julie mainly, but I am fairly certain the officials never said that. So the official reason was always that Nathalie underperformed on hard courts. If you used the hard court rankings of 1999-2000 Nathalie is behind Julie, Sandrine and Amelie, if you used the real rankings she was number one.

That's how they officially justified her exclusion.

Edit: Actually Mary was number one, but was not eligible because she didn't play Fed Cup.

Fantastic
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:45 PM
It's not like Golovin would have won a medal anyway, so get over it.

Sandrine had the chance to play the Olympics, she was selected... Why would she say no when she has the chance to play? THINK about it for more than 2 seconds.

I do contest the ITF decision too, but it doesn't mean Sandrine should be bashed.

We'll never know if Golovin could have won a medal or not. She deserved a chance to prove herself. She might get another chance in Beijing, but she might be injured or quit by then. Things happen. But actually, it was Sandrine who protested the decision to include Golovin on the team, and then got greedy by taking both events away from her. Sandrine pulled out her Special Ranking (of No. 11) and used that as her ticket into the Games, meaning that on paper, she is the French No. 2 player. The French Federation had no choice but to allow her to play. Sandrine got in through a loophole. There was a bit more to it than "Oh, I can play the Olympics!!! Yippee!!!"

To Tatiana's credit, she accepted the decision and did not appeal the selection.

Fantastic
Aug 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
Well at the end of the day, not only does Sandrine still get to play the sport she loves, but she gets to go home to a beautiful little girl and a happy lifestyle.

All you little brats get to do is go back home to your computers and piss and moan about something you have no control over. Get over it, nobody is listening to you.

Win or lose, she's out there enjoying herself and who are you guys to step on that buzz?? What would you do if at age 32 you got to make your Olympic debut? Turn them down? I think not

Allez Sandrine :hearts:

If no one is listening, then why can't we piss and moan if we want to? If I had to make an Olympic team by pushing a much better player out for selfish reasons, I'd be a rather manipulative person. Sandrine qualified legally in 2000 but got injured two weeks before the Olympics. She didn't pull out until the day before competition so that Nathalie Tauziat could not be recalled into the team. So much for Saint Sandrine. If she couldn't play it, no one else was going to take her spot. And so it was in 2004.

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 03:08 PM
:yawn:

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Well said Fantastic :) !!!!!

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Well said Fantastic :) !!!!!
Well said but if I was here, I'd have done the same thing! Why blaming her? She just used her rights to enter the games! If it was her dream to participate once again to that event, so be it!

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Well said but if I was here, I'd have done the same thing! Why blaming her? She just used her rights to enter the games! If it was her dream to participate once again to that event, so be it!
It was the dream of other girls who are better too!!!!!

Being in the Olympics is the dream of a lot of athlete, and not all the athlete of the world participate to the Olympics. That' s all !!!!!

GoSandrine
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Fantastic, please reveal your sources. You seem to have quite the scoop on all the goings on within the French Tennis Federation. Either that or you must have telepathic powers to be able to read Sandrine's mind. :rolleyes:

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Fantastic, please reveal your sources. You seem to have quite the scoop on all the goings on within the French Tennis Federation. Either that or you must have telepathic powers to be able to read Sandrine's mind. :rolleyes:
He don' t need to be magician to know that. That' s an evidence !!!!!

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 04:54 PM
It was the dream of other girls who are better too!!!!!

Being in the Olympics is the dream of a lot of athlete, and not all the athlete of the world participate to the Olympics. That' s all !!!!!
Anyway Sandrine didn't do anything wrong she just used her rights

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Anyway Sandrine didn't do anything wrong she just used her rightsAnyway, je n'ai jamais dis le contraire.

Les grands champions c' est aussi ceux qui savent partir quand il est encore temps. Visiblement, il n'y à donc pas que les grands champions qui participent aux Jeux Olympiques.

GoSandrine
Aug 17th, 2004, 05:13 PM
He don' t need to be magician to know that. That' s an evidence !!!!!Sounds more like speculation or heresay

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Sounds more like speculation or heresay
That's what people says when they don' t know what to say.

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 06:11 PM
Anyway, je n'ai jamais dis le contraire.

Les grands champions c' est aussi ceux qui savent partir quand il est encore temps. Visiblement, il n'y à donc pas que les grands champions qui participent aux Jeux Olympiques.
:rolleyes:

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Last time I checked, Sandrine's injury protected ranking was higher than Golovin's current ranking.

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 06:40 PM
:rolleyes:
:p :kiss: ;) !!!!!

GoSandrine
Aug 17th, 2004, 06:41 PM
That's what people says when they don' t know what to say.
:rolleyes:

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GoDominique
Aug 17th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Well, I admit that I was wrong to criticise Sandrine's performance.
Silvia is in great form which she proved today, so losing 2 and 0 against her is no shame. :)

KV
Aug 17th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Well, I admit that I was wrong to criticise Sandrine's performance.
Silvia is in great form which she proved today, so losing 2 and 0 against her is no shame. :) :confused:
But she lost by 1 & 2 against Lisa. Well I am sure T. Golovin would have done better. Yes I can see her beating Silvia Farina, but I rule out T. Golovin being a medals contender.

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Well, I admit that I was wrong to criticise Sandrine's performance.
Silvia is in great form which she proved today, so losing 2 and 0 against her is no shame. :)
Lol

fammmmedspin
Aug 17th, 2004, 08:58 PM
We'll never know if Golovin could have won a medal or not. She deserved a chance to prove herself. She might get another chance in Beijing, but she might be injured or quit by then. Things happen. But actually, it was Sandrine who protested the decision to include Golovin on the team, and then got greedy by taking both events away from her. Sandrine pulled out her Special Ranking (of No. 11) and used that as her ticket into the Games, meaning that on paper, she is the French No. 2 player. The French Federation had no choice but to allow her to play. Sandrine got in through a loophole. There was a bit more to it than "Oh, I can play the Olympics!!! Yippee!!!"

To Tatiana's credit, she accepted the decision and did not appeal the selection.
The point of having a special injury ranking is so that its used to decide who gets into draws. There would be no point in having them if you didn't use them would there? Its not a loophole its the way the rules work - its what Venus and serena have been using, Kim will be using and Monica would use if she comes back. if its good enough for everyone else its good enough for Sandrine. No one goes to the olympics because they are currently playing better than the people who stayed at home. They go because their ranking gives them the place and the ranking by definition reflects past performance. Ask Sharapova or Zvonereva.

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:02 PM
The point of having a special injury ranking is so that its used to decide who gets into draws. There would be no point in having them if you didn't use them would there? Its not a loophole its the way the rules work - its what Venus and serena have been using, Kim will be using and Monica would use if she comes back. if its good enough for everyone else its good enough for Sandrine. No one goes to the olympics because they are currently playing better than the people who stayed at home. They go because their ranking gives them the place and the ranking by definition reflects past performance. Ask Sharapova or Zvonereva.
It' s maybe like that where you live but absolutely not in France, except in tennis, and that' s totally unfair !!!!!

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:03 PM
The point of having a special injury ranking is so that its used to decide who gets into draws. There would be no point in having them if you didn't use them would there? Its not a loophole its the way the rules work - its what Venus and serena have been using, Kim will be using and Monica would use if she comes back. if its good enough for everyone else its good enough for Sandrine. No one goes to the olympics because they are currently playing better than the people who stayed at home. They go because their ranking gives them the place and the ranking by definition reflects past performance. Ask Sharapova or Zvonereva.
Thank you :) :) :) :worship:

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:05 PM
It' s maybe like that where you live but absolutely not in France, except in tennis, and that' s totally unfair !!!!!why is it unfair?? :cuckoo:

if tatiana gets seriously injured, which i hope never happens, you won't complain either when she uses her injury ranking to get into tournaments

Come-on-kim
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I don't agree with the injury rule, and even worst to apply it to the Olympics, but hey again, it's not Sandrine fault. She used the rule at her advantage, she would be stupid to not use it.
That's my point of view as well!!! :worship:

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:26 PM
why is it unfair?? :cuckoo:

if tatiana gets seriously injured, which i hope never happens, you won't complain either when she uses her injury ranking to get into tournaments
That' s unfair because she wasn' t the better THIS year!

In athletics if you don' t realize the minima you aren' t selected, and that' s normal. It should be the same with tennis!

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Maja Matevzic has just come back after being off the tour for 6+ months. Is it unfair for her to use her injury ranking???

Athletics and tennis are two different sports. Athletics don't have rankings.

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:45 PM
Maja Matevzic has just come back after being off the tour for 6+ months. Is it unfair for her to use her injury ranking???

Athletics and tennis are two different sports. Athletics don't have rankings.
That's wrong! Rankings exists with athletics. When we don' t know, we don' t speak!

rated_next
Aug 17th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Yup, but there are olympics trials to see which players will go to the olympics in athletics and not in tennis. Rankings in athletics do not influence who will make it to the olympics. And, I did track and field in high school, so I do know what I am talking about.

Anyway, this discussion is pointless since you are :cuckoo:.

Nicoleke
Aug 17th, 2004, 10:00 PM
Yup, but there are olympics trials to see which players will go to the olympics in athletics and not in tennis. Rankings in athletics do not influence who will make it to the olympics. And, I did track and field in high school, so I do know what I am talking about.

Anyway, this discussion is pointless since you are :cuckoo:.
I am what? :sad: ... I just say what I think, and that' s all. I respect what people think and please respect what I think too .....

Come-on-kim
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:39 AM
That's my point of view as well!!! :worship:
I got bad repped by Nicoleke for this post because she said it was a bad post :rolleyes:

Girls....

Nicoleke
Aug 18th, 2004, 11:03 AM
I got bad repped by Nicoleke for this post because she said it was a bad post :rolleyes:

Girls....
You gave me bad rep points, I did the same. I don' t like the fact that you don' t respect when someone other haven' t got your opinion.
I don' t think I wrote a bad post, I just said what I think! I think that your bad points was unfair!
And, this post is childish ;) lol !!!!! (C'est bon, tu as fini de te plaindre now? lol :p)

Bероника
Aug 18th, 2004, 11:34 AM
I'm amazed by the lack of respect some so-called Golovin fans have been showing towards Sandrine.They were undoubtly even waiting for Sandrine to lose.I'm not even a Testud fan but it makes me happy she's played the Olympics and the other girl hasn't.

Come-on-kim
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:01 PM
You gave me bad rep points, I did the same. I don' t like the fact that you don' t respect when someone other haven' t got your opinion.
I don' t think I wrote a bad post, I just said what I think! I think that your bad points was unfair!
And, this post is childish ;) lol !!!!! (C'est bon, tu as fini de te plaindre now? lol :p)
No I haven't finished to complain!!!

I thought your first post was pretty rude on Sandy!!!! You were sarcasticaly or ironicaly writing but still, it was extreamly rude! There were other ways to give your opinion!

esquímaux
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:08 PM
Ladies (and gentlemen ;)) PUT YOUR HANDBAGS AWAY! :scared::eek:

Nicoleke
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:10 PM
No I haven't finished to complain!!!

I thought your first post was pretty rude on Sandy!!!! You were sarcasticaly or ironicaly writing but still, it was extreamly rude! There were other ways to give your opinion!
It was ironic I agree. But what' s the problem? Since when irony = wikedness? It wasn' t my target to being bad with Sandrine Testud. As I said, I often cheered for her. I just says that she isn' t at her place in this event. That' s all !!!!!

Axel, si je t' ai filé des bad rep points, tu ne peux t'en prendre qu' à toi - même ;). Peace amigo :kiss: ;).

Veronika, if it was not Tatiana Golovin, but Marion Bartoli, Virginie Razzano or Stéphanie Cohen - Aloro, my opinion has been the same. All these french girls were better than Sandrine Testud this year. To conclude they deserved more the ticket for Athens than Sandrine Testud to my mind.

Come-on-kim
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:14 PM
It was ironic I agree. But what' s the problem? Since when irony = wikedness? It wasn' t my target to being bad with Sandrine Testud. As I said, I often cheered for her. I just says that she isn' t at her place in this event. That' s all !!!!!

Axel, si je t' ai filé des bad rep points, tu ne peux t'en prendre qu' à toi - même ;). Peace amigo :kiss: ;).

Veronika, if it was not Tatiana Golovin, but Marion Bartoli, Virginie Razzano or Stéphanie Cohen - Aloro, my opinion has been the same. All these french girls were better than Sandrine Testud this year. To conclude they deserved more the ticket for Athens than Sandrine Testud to my mind.
It was Sandrine's place there as she was eligible to play! So she took it, so be it! I'd have done the same think!

Nicoleke
Aug 18th, 2004, 12:18 PM
It was Sandrine's place there as she was eligible to play! So she took it, so be it! I'd have done the same think!
Ok ok ..... Peace Axel ;).

Check the link and you'll see that I'm not a Sandrine Testud hater :p :

http://www.wtaworld.com/archive/index.php/t-67449.html

GoSandrine
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Sandrine Testud/Nathalie Dechy def. (1) Svetlana Kuznetsova/Elena Likhovtseva 2-6,7-6(5),6-3.

:worship: :p :wavey:

rated_next
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:08 PM
:bounce: :bounce:

HectorMagnus
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Sandrine Testud/Nathalie Dechy def. (1) Svetlana Kuznetsova/Elena Likhovtseva 2-6,7-6(5),6-3.

:worship: :p :wavey:


:haha: :yeah:

Nicoleke
Aug 19th, 2004, 10:42 AM
Sandrine Testud/Nathalie Dechy def. (1) Svetlana Kuznetsova/Elena Likhovtseva 2-6,7-6(5),6-3.

:worship: :p :wavey:
Congratulations girls :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!

GoSandrine
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:07 AM
Congratulations girls :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!
:eek:

"Sluggy"
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:09 AM
Congratulations!!!!! :) :bounce:

Come-on-kim
Aug 19th, 2004, 11:32 AM
Congratulations girls :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!
Faux Cul :p

esquímaux
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:05 PM
Sandrine Testud/Nathalie Dechy def. (1) Svetlana Kuznetsova/Elena Likhovtseva 2-6,7-6(5),6-3.

:worship: :p :wavey:


:lol::p

Nicoleke
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:56 PM
Faux Cul :p
Mais non lol :p. Tu n'as pas compris ce que je voulais dire dans ce thread je crois bien ;).

Nicoleke
Aug 19th, 2004, 12:58 PM
:eek:
Whaaaaat? lol.

They played well and I congratulate them. I'm happy to see them defeat the top seed number # 1.

I think that a lot of people didn" t understand what I wanted to say in this thread .....

I often cheered for Sandrine Testud by the past .....

XaDavK_Kapri
Aug 19th, 2004, 01:51 PM
I think that what Nicole wanted to say in this thread was that Golovin deserved the singles spot more than Sandrine ;) She didn't say a word about doubles.

Experimentee
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:01 PM
I think Golovin would have been a chance to win bronze if she'd been in Testud's place in the draw. Testud lost 6-2 6-0 to Farina, who lost 6-2 6-1 to Raymond, i mean thats pretty pathetic. If you want to send a veteran, make sure its a player who will put up a good showing. I understand that its not Sandrines fault, but the ITF really stuffed up here.

Bероника
Aug 19th, 2004, 02:45 PM
Allez les filles!!! I hope the pair Sandrine/Nathalie can get some medal!!!

Nicole,in the end you can't blame Sandrine for this situation.Imagine the situation would have been the contrary,I think Tatiana would have done the same thing as Sandrine.We can't blame the players for that.I think any player would have seized the chance to play Olympics.Well not all,I still don't get why Emilie Loit refused to play.It was kinda strange...

Nicoleke
Aug 19th, 2004, 04:05 PM
I think Golovin would have been a chance to win bronze if she'd been in Testud's place in the draw. Testud lost 6-2 6-0 to Farina, who lost 6-2 6-1 to Raymond, i mean thats pretty pathetic. If you want to send a veteran, make sure its a player who will put up a good showing. I understand that its not Sandrines fault, but the ITF really stuffed up here.
I agree, I totaly agree with you !!!!!