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Ivan C
Aug 2nd, 2004, 10:02 AM
I honestly think she might win it. It's the same feeling I got during wimbledon.
What does everyone think?

Lemonskin.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 10:05 AM
Depends on the draw. Semi's would be fantastic

Ivan C
Aug 2nd, 2004, 10:08 AM
Depends on the draw. Semi's would be fantastic

Semi's would be a good acheivement, but we would have said that for wimbledon before it started.

altemix
Aug 2nd, 2004, 10:15 AM
I will not predict anything because when I badly want to someone to win and predict the winning there is always nothing gonna happen. Of course I want to see her winning US Open but we'll see. I am delighted with any Maria's victory. :)

GO MARIA!!!

Edward.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:07 AM
MY prediction would be the quarters, but with a good draw, she can reach the semi's.

Lemonskin.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:16 AM
Semi's would be a good acheivement, but we would have said that for wimbledon before it started.

yes but she's still young. you cant expect her to make the final of every tournament she plays. remember she only made her first grand slam QF at Roland Garros. Semi's would be a mega acheivement.

Dan23
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:03 PM
Like Eddyday Id say the Quarter Finals though I wouldnt be at all unhappy (or surprised) if Maria proves me completely wrong and gets through to the Semi's or even the Championship match.
Maria has enormous fighting qualities that really show through in the big games.
Hopefully she can have a great tournament, I know shes got it in her to win.

Rgds,
ils

Ivan C
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:06 PM
Guys if you looks at the draw properly, if she gets to the QF, she'll most probably get to the final as her QF and SF opponents should be dementieva and mauresmo respectively. She'd be strong fav to beat them two, right?

Andy Mac
Aug 2nd, 2004, 04:28 PM
yea she would....but she should even be happy (cause i would)at her acura classic finish...because even to get where she did in that was amazing

Edward.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 04:48 PM
With Dementievas terrible serve, maria should get past her. But Momo would be very tough...

Ivan C
Aug 2nd, 2004, 04:58 PM
In my opinion Amelie "can't win a slam" Mauresmo is the most overated player on tour. I don't see much in her in her, someone please tell me why people think she's amazing. She is no more in the women's game than Henman in the mens. Mauresmo is the exact women's version of Henman if you think about it, but just more ugly.

PS, they are good players, just not good enough to compete with the very best.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Aug 2nd, 2004, 05:08 PM
I have a weird feeling... before this feeling she was going to win WImbledon! and I was right! but now I can't understnad it... ANyways... what I hope at least is that she gets to Semis....

Alone2Gether
Aug 2nd, 2004, 08:04 PM
Maria is gonna fight all the way through!!! No clue how far she will go but she's definitley gonna give 'em hell.

Marcova
Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:17 PM
Okay, but what about Davenport. Is she playing?

I think a lot depend upon the Williams sisters still, and how in form they are.
If they are both winning, it could dictate a lot of what happens in the final, but a quarterfinal place would be an excellent result.

Dan23
Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:43 PM
Guys if you looks at the draw properly, if she gets to the QF, she'll most probably get to the final as her QF and SF opponents should be dementieva and mauresmo respectively. She'd be strong fav to beat them two, right?
We are talking about the US Open here right?? :wavey:
The draw has not been released yet, so we dont know who Maria will play yet!!!

I think you're referring to the Rogers Cup.

Lemonskin.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:02 AM
Okay, but what about Davenport. Is she playing?

I think a lot depend upon the Williams sisters still, and how in form they are.
If they are both winning, it could dictate a lot of what happens in the final, but a quarterfinal place would be an excellent result.

Of course davenport will play the open.

williamses will hopefully both still be injured. the belgians should be out or under-strength so her main threats are davenport, myskina and mauresmo. it depends if capriati and dementieva are really cooking whether they will pose as big a threat as the others. she wont want to get too complacent against kuznetsova, zvonerava etc otherwise an upset could happen.

Marcova
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:36 AM
Of course davenport will play the open.

williamses will hopefully both still be injured.

Ha ha haha ha.lol.

How many up and coming Russian players are there? Can you name the top five, Sharavova excepted?
Yes it is good to see an intelligent assessment ofteh game.

Lemonskin.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 04:02 AM
Ha ha haha ha.lol.

How many up and coming Russian players are there? Can you name the top five, Sharavova excepted?
Yes it is good to see an intelligent assessment ofteh game.

haha theres a lot of russian players around now... but the only one we really care about is Masha!! (maria kirilenko and dementieva are... nice, also :P)

Edward.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 11:44 AM
Ha ha haha ha.lol.

How many up and coming Russian players are there? Can you name the top five, Sharavova excepted?
Yes it is good to see an intelligent assessment ofteh game.

Top 5 Russians are Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova and Zvonareva.

Out of that lot, I believe Maria can defeat them all, except Myskina, who would be extremely tough.

Andy.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 11:46 AM
i think probably the quarter finals are very achievable, if she plays really well maybe the semi finals

Andy Mac
Aug 3rd, 2004, 02:43 PM
well i think alot of people in this thread have sayed how she has unique fighting abilities and the quarters i am most certain she can reach...and from there...well the semi's i think yea she could get to and it wouldnt truly surprize me if she gets to the final but even if she gets stopped at the quarters thats still respectable...to even play in the tourney in my mind is respectable..

Sharapower
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:04 PM
Humm, my friends, my friends, don't make predictions, just enjoy things as they come. Maria is so young, things will come at the right time.

Yet I just think Maria's game is not "stabilized" enough to make predictions. Early upsets are possible, just like winning the whole thing.

For the moment , all I want is to see her play on TV. Whatever her perfomance is, I don't care.

Ivan C
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:07 PM
Grand Slams seem to be underated in wtaworld, I mean all this talk about Maria not winning Tier I tournaments, Grand Slams are the real deal. No one can be known as a GREAT player until they have won at least one. So Mauresmo has A LOT to prove and Maria is ahead of her already. Everyone else agree?

Andy Mac
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:10 PM
yes.................................me

Ivan C
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:11 PM
yes.................................me

You talking to me? That Amelie "can't win a slam" Mauresmo is WAY overated.

Andy Mac
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:47 PM
yes...im talking to you.,..i shudda quoted you but didnt sorry for teh confusion but yes i agree with Amelie "cant win a slam" mauresmo isnt WAY overated but overated at that..to say she is WAY over rated might be going the top

Edward.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 03:55 PM
Grand Slams seem to be underated in wtaworld, I mean all this talk about Maria not winning Tier I tournaments, Grand Slams are the real deal. No one can be known as a GREAT player until they have won at least one. So Mauresmo has A LOT to prove and Maria is ahead of her already. Everyone else agree?

No.

Andy Mac
Aug 3rd, 2004, 04:10 PM
No.
hey eddy..open to discussion...may i hear what your say on this is? :)

Edward.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 05:11 PM
hey eddy..open to discussion...may i hear what your say on this is? :)

Amelie has won a number of Tier I's and no grand slams. Maria has one grand slam and no Tier I's.

Grand Slams may have more prestige and may be shown to a greater global audience but the fields in grand slams and Tier I's are almost exactly the same. Both have the top players involved and both are very competitive.

Thus I believe they are of equal difficulty to win. The fact Amelie has managed to win through a number of top fields to win a title compared to Maria's one shows that she has accomplished more. Amelie has also been in numerous Grand Slam finals and semi finals, far more than Maria has. And I am sure one day she will win a Grand Slam.

Andy Mac
Aug 3rd, 2004, 05:30 PM
Amelie has won a number of Tier I's and no grand slams. Maria has one grand slam and no Tier I's.

Grand Slams may have more prestige and may be shown to a greater global audience but the fields in grand slams and Tier I's are almost exactly the same. Both have the top players involved and both are very competitive.

Thus I believe they are of equal difficulty to win. The fact Amelie has managed to win through a number of top fields to win a title compared to Maria's one shows that she has accomplished more. Amelie has also been in numerous Grand Slam finals and semi finals, far more than Maria has. And I am sure one day she will win a Grand Slam.
now who can argue with that....nice one eddy...you have proven your point and i stand corrected :worship:

t_fan
Aug 3rd, 2004, 05:48 PM
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Grand Slams may have more prestige and may be shown to a greater global audience but the fields in grand slams and Tier I's are almost exactly the same. Both have the top players involved and both are very competitive.

Thus I believe they are of equal difficulty to win...
I don't think so. Slams are more difficult to win. It takes to win 7 matches in a two weeks span so you have to be fully fit and able to maintain adequate level of fitness. Mentally they're also a lot more demanding than any other WTA event.

Edward.
Aug 3rd, 2004, 06:17 PM
I don't think so. Slams are more difficult to win. It takes to win 7 matches in a two weeks span so you have to be fully fit and able to maintain adequate level of fitness. Mentally they're also a lot more demanding than any other WTA event.

Huh?

In Tier I events you often have to play a match every day. In Grand Slams you have to play your matches over a 2 week period. Which means you often have day breaks between matches. This allows the player time to recondition and rest. In Tier I's you don't get that, you play a match, then have to play another match the next day, without a break in between.

So IMO, Tier I's are actually more physically tiring than Grand Slams, especially as Tier I's are often in quick succession.

However, I do agree with your view that Grand Slams are more mentally tiring on players. Its the main reason Amelie often comes unstuck at Roland Garros and Tim Henman falters at Wimbledon.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Aug 3rd, 2004, 07:13 PM
But also remember that most of the top players also like to participate in different events like doubles and mixed doubles....

sharapovarulz1
Aug 3rd, 2004, 07:18 PM
I believe she culd reach the semis! but lets hope its the final :worship:

lakan kildap
Aug 4th, 2004, 04:03 AM
I have a weird feeling... before this feeling she was going to win WImbledon! and I was right! but now I can't understnad it... ANyways... what I hope at least is that she gets to Semis....

You have to remember that Maria had this almost "is this girl serious?" (even for a fan) level of confidence entering Wimbledon. She was going all two weeks of the tournament about how much she wants to win the tournament, how she feels she has a chance (in hindsight, we know now she was right, she had more than a chance). At the time, she had just won the DFS Classic and was riding her wave of confidence high. It was as if "she expected it (her victory)", Andy Roddick would say later, after Maria has defeated Serena in the final.

lakan kildap
Aug 4th, 2004, 04:13 AM
Amelie has won a number of Tier I's and no grand slams. Maria has one grand slam and no Tier I's.

[snip]
The fact Amelie has managed to win through a number of top fields to win a title compared to Maria's one shows that she has accomplished more. Amelie has also been in numerous Grand Slam finals and semi finals, far more than Maria has. And I am sure one day she will win a Grand Slam.

This has something more to do with age and experience, I think. I mean, this is just Maria's second year on the women's tour, and she's still bound by "too young" WTA rules to play as many events as necessary to "strike it rich", so to speak. Mauresmo has been around a while.

As far as I remember, Mauresmo has been to one Grand Slam final, same as Maria, and Amelie lost that one, too, to Martina Hingis. Will Mauresmo win a Grand Slam tournament eventually? I will not bet against it, simply because she just might win and make me look like a fool. I mean, even Jana Novotna managed to do it eventually, in spite of her frayed nerves. But I'm not too excited about Mauresmo's chances. But that's just me.

Lemonskin.
Aug 4th, 2004, 04:36 AM
As far as I remember, Mauresmo has been to one Grand Slam final, same as Maria, and Amelie lost that one, too, to Martina Hingis. Will Mauresmo win a Grand Slam tournament eventually? I will not bet against it, simply because she just might win and make me look like a fool. I mean, even Jana Novotna managed to do it eventually, in spite of her frayed nerves. But I'm not too excited about Mauresmo's chances. But that's just me.

mausresmo is a very good player, but seems to choke at the critical moments

Sharapower
Aug 4th, 2004, 06:33 AM
It was as if "she expected it (her victory)", Andy Roddick would say later, after Maria has defeated Serena in the final.
Did he (Andy) say that ?

lakan kildap
Aug 4th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Did he (Andy) say that ?

Well, almost. The "expect" part was there. I was writing that from memory. I don't know how accurately news agencies quote tennis stars, but the full quote from Roddick was actually this one:

"At 17, to have that ability already, it's pretty amazing," said Andy Roddick, who will play for the men's title Sunday. "But it's almost like she expects it. There's something inside her that's pretty impressive."

Sharapower
Aug 4th, 2004, 07:34 AM
I found the entire quote :


Q. What are your thoughts on what occurred in the women's match, Maria Sharapova at age 17 winning the title?

ANDY RODDICK: It was an amazing effort. I mean, I watched probably close to the whole second set. I mean, the way -- it's impressive to see how she steps up and hits her shot every time. No matter what the situation, she's going to live and die with her strokes, not letting someone take it to her. At 17 to already have that ability, it's pretty amazing. But it's almost like she expects it. There's something inside her, that's pretty impressive.

(july 3, 2004)


he seems to be a fan...

t_fan
Aug 4th, 2004, 09:26 AM
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In Tier I events you often have to play a match every day. In Grand Slams you have to play your matches over a 2 week period. Which means you often have day breaks between matches. This allows the player time to recondition and rest. In Tier I's you don't get that, you play a match, then have to play another match the next day, without a break in between...

Even if you have a day to rest, fatigue accumulates. Not everyone is good at proper relaxing and adapting to rhythm changes. At Tier I it's often easier to concentrate and try to make it in 'one breath'. If you're in form and have higher seeds byes also can help. As for quick succession of Tier I events it's more a matter of reasonable scheduling. It'd be more interesting to see results of a survey on this matter among players if it ever been conducted.

Edward.
Aug 4th, 2004, 02:04 PM
True- I guess it just varies from player to player.