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Stefwhit
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:28 PM
The Williams’ Sisters (Venus and Serena)
The Belgium Sisters (Kim and Justine)
The Russian Sisters (Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Vera, and Petrova)
The Vets (Lindsay, JCap, MoMo, Pierce and Conchita)
The Young-Guns (Tatiana Golovin, KSprem, Gisela Dulko, Jelena Jankovic and Kostanic, Maria Kirelenko, Molik, and Safina- this group is constantly rotating, it's up to each player to go from a young gun to one of the other catogories.)
The Mid-Range players (Chanda, Sugiyama, Paula Suarez, Schynder, Maleeva, Smashnova, Dechy, Silvia Farina, Zuluaga, Frazier, Asagoe, Raymond, and Daniellidou)
The HAS-NOT-BEENS (Daniela Hantuchova, Alexandra Stevenson, Mirana Lucic, Jelena Dokic, and Ashley Harkleroad)

All the injuries that devastated women's’ tennis over the last two years may have actually been helpful to the overall future of tennis. With both Vee and Rena out recovering from injuries, both Kim and Justine stepped up to the plate and became the new dominate force in women's tennis. As fate would have it, it wasn’t long before the “new” dominate force would be forced to take their own injury break- and who stepped up to fill the void left by the Belgium's, the Russians. Injuries and circumstances have made it possible for other players to step into the spotlight and become more known to the casual tennis fans, which is great for the sport. Unlike the “Williams Sisters” and the famous Belgium duo, the Russians “Sisters” are comprised of a handful of girls (led by Myskina and including Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Vera, and Petrova just to name a few). Along with the “Sisters” we surely can’t forget about the vets (Lindz, JCap, MoMo, Mary Pierce and Conchita). There is an obvious resurgence in Lindsay's’ game and so far this year (on the hard courts) she’s been on FIRE- this only helps to put emphasis on the competitiveness of the sport, when at any given moment, a player with skills can put all the pieces together and become a major factor. We seen it happen in Paris with Myskina and we seen it happen at Wimby with Maria. Lindz has the next few weeks off and it will be interesting to see her try to pick up where she’s left off- unfortunately for her there’s only one direction left to go, unless of course she can manage to keep up her remarkable play. Both Venus and Serena are slowly beginning to put their games back on track and it wont be that much longer before Kim and Justine rejoin the tour. Now that the top 15 is a lot more competitive (and more known) it only enhances the over all excitement of the sport. There is a lot of potential for some extremely competitive and unpredictable match-ups. Now all we need is for all the injuries to be a thing of the past and I think women's tennis will find itself more popular and exciting as ever- the future looks bright. Speaking of the future, we can't forget about the Young-Guns (KSprem, Molik, Tatiana Golovin, Jelena Jankovic, Gisela Dulko, Maria Kirilenko) it's only a matter of time before some of these girls have their own break-throughs and start making some major waves.

Score Card:
Total Slams
1. Williams Sisters (10)
2. The Vets (9)
3. The Belgium Sisters (3)
4. The Russian Sisters (2)
5. The Young Guns (0)

Slams won this year
1. The Russians (2)
2. The Belgium Sisters (1)
-

Total tournaments won:
(who knows, I got free time on my hands but I'm too lazy to add em' up. Let's just say the "Vets" have the most and the "Young Guns" have the least)

Tournaments won this year
1. The Vets (8) ...updated
2. The Belgium Sisters (6)
2. The Russians (6)
4. Williams Sisters (3)
5. Young Guns (1)

....too bad this year is just about over and it's unfortunate that all the major contenders wont be competing at the Open, but it will still be the most competitive field assembled this year at any slam (provided there are no withdrawls). Maybe the whole point of this year was to let "others" have their moment in the spotlight and assert themselves as real contenders. We still have the rest of the hard court season left as well as indoors, and the Championships, but all of this bodes well for a really exciting 2005 season- let's keep our fingers crossed. In the mean time it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the year shapes up- as well as who ends the year at number one. Who says women's tennis has lost it's luster??

!<blocparty>!
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:39 PM
Ireally hope players decide to cut down their schedules, the AO is moved 4 ward, and the YEC is moved back. It would be good for everyone, exept sponsors, and some lesser tournaments. But if there were fewer tournaments, there would probably be less injuries, therefore we would see more top players playing at the same time, making the game more exiting for everyone.

Maybe im wrong, maybe if there was more of an off season, players would train much harder, and would be the equivlant of playing tournaments :shrug:

Good post though, as always stefwhit ;)

Stefwhit
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:08 PM
I'm in total agreement that one of the keys to a better tour is cutting down the year and slightly increasing the off season. Another thing might include tweeking the ranking system a bit (quality over quantity). The increased television coverage in the united states (via the Tennis Channel and the US Open Series) is a huge step forward in attracting and keeping fans of the sport. Overall things can always be better but we should all be happy that at the very least we can actually see some things slowly changing for the better.

I guess I left off one group of players, the "top tenners"...these are the players who are consistent and every year have either one really good win or one really good tournament. In all honesty this group of players is the easiest group to overlook. They usually live up to their rankings, beating players ranked below them and seldom beating the top players. Of all the classifications- this group of players has the slimmest chance of success IMO. These are the players that are consistent in the slams usually making the 3rd or 4th round and for the majority of their careers usually wind up finishing the year in the top 30:

(Chanda, Sugiyama, Paula Suarez, Schynder, Maleeva, Smashnova, Dechy, Silvia Farina, Frazier, Raymond, and Daniellidou).

They add their own excitement to the tour. They've been around enough to be known to most of the crowds and these are the types of players (the under-dogs) that are usually fun to root for- especially when the play against a player you don't like. With these players you like to believe it's only a matter of time and that just make them fun to have on the tour.

CJK
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:09 PM
The spotlight though will be more on the 3 sisters than the vets and young guns.
For casual fans, they probably dont care much about Conchita or K-Lina.
But still, I hope the vets and young guns can do well too, well done Lindsay:).

Stefwhit
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:29 PM
CJK- your signature inspired my initial post in this thread....fyi.

Honey
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:42 PM
Although rivalries always makes things interesting, I'm totally happy with the way things are right now. I love how everything is up in the air and everything is fair game... anyone can win.

Stefwhit
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:07 AM
I agree witcha Honey- I think this will be only the second year in the last ten that all the majors will have been won by a different person (assuming that it actually happens this year- and at this point I can almost gurantee it). Of course I'm more than happy with Serena dominating (those surely were the good ol' days,) but things are pretty interesting when a number of outcomes seem equally possible...

Leo_DFP
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:23 AM
Good post. I do look forward to 2005 when hopefully all of these competitors will be healthy and contending for the titles that count.

Btw, you made one noticeable mistake in your tournament count. After today, the Vets have a total 8 titles (Davenport: 5, Mauresmo: 2, Pierce: 1). You probably forgot Mary's first ever grass court title, but I could never forget. ;)

Stefwhit
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:33 AM
...Btw, you made one noticeable mistake in your tournament count. After today, the Vets have a total 8 titles (Davenport: 5, Mauresmo: 2, Pierce: 1). You probably forgot Mary's first ever grass court title, but I could never forget. ;)
Yep, that's the one I forgot- how on earth did you guess that...

bandabou
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:35 AM
Great post, stef....it´s gonna be intruiging when the members of all the groups can regain full health and full strength.

tenn_ace
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:37 AM
The Williams’ Sisters (Venus and Serena)
The Belgium Sisters (Kim and Justine)
The Russian Sisters (Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Vera, and Petrova)
The Vets (Lindsay, JCap, MoMo, Pierce and Conchita)
The Young-Guns (KSprem, Gisela Dulko, Tatiana Golovin, Jelena Jankovic, Maria Kirelenko, Molik, and Safina)

All the injuries that devastated women's’ tennis over the last two years may have actually been helpful to the overall future of tennis. With both Vee and Rena out recovering from injuries, both Kim and Justine stepped up to the plate and became the new dominate force in women's tennis. As fate would have it, it wasn’t long before the “new” dominate force would be forced to take their own injury break- and who stepped up to fill the void left by the Belgium's, the Russians. Injuries and circumstances have made it possible for other players to step into the spotlight and become more known to the casual tennis fans, which is great for the sport. Unlike the “Williams Sisters” and the famous Belgium duo, the Russians “Sisters” are comprised of a handful of girls (led by Myskina and including Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Vera, and Petrova just to name a few). Along with the “Sisters” we surely can’t forget about the vets (Lindz, JCap, MoMo, Mary Pierce and Conchita). There is an obvious resurgence in Lindsay's’ game and so far this year (on the hard courts) she’s been on FIRE- this only helps to put emphasis on the competitiveness of the sport, when at any given moment, a player with skills can put all the pieces together and become a major factor. We seen it happen in Paris with Myskina and we seen it happen at Wimby with Maria. Lindz has the next few weeks off and it will be interesting to see her try to pick up where she’s left off- unfortunately for her there’s only one direction left to go, unless of course she can manage to keep up her remarkable play. Both Venus and Serena are slowly beginning to put their games back on track and it wont be that much longer before Kim and Justine rejoin the tour. Now that the top 15 is a lot more competitive (and more known) it only enhances the over all excitement of the sport. There is a lot of potential for some extremely competitive and unpredictable match-ups. Now all we need is for all the injuries to be a thing of the past and I think women's tennis will find itself more popular and exciting as ever- the future looks bright. Speaking of the future, we can't forget about the Young-Guns (KSprem, Molik, Tatiana Golovin, Jelena Jankovic, Gisela Dulko, Maria Kirilenko) it's only a matter of time before some of these girls have their own break-throughs and start making some major waves.

Score Card:
Total Slams
1. Williams Sisters (10)
2. The Vets (9)
3. The Belgium Sisters (3)
4. The Russian Sisters (2)
5. The Young Guns (0)

Slams won this year
1. The Russians (2)
2. The Belgium Sisters (1)
-

Total tournaments won:
(who knows, I got free time on my hands but I'm too lazy to add em' up. Let's just say the "Vets" have the most and the "Young Guns" have the least)

Tournaments won this year
1. The Vets (8) ...updated
2. The Belgium Sisters (6)
2. The Russians (6)
4. Williams Sisters (3)
5. Young Guns (1)

....too bad this year is just about over and it's unfortunate that all the major contenders wont be competing at the Open, but it will still be the most competitive field assembled this year at any slam (provided there are no withdrawls). Maybe the whole point of this year was to let "others" have their moment in the spotlight and assert themselves as real contenders. We still have the rest of the hard court season left as well as indoors, and the Championships, but all of this bodes well for a really exciting 2005 season- let's keep our fingers crossed. In the mean time it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the year shapes up- as well as who ends the year at number one. Who says women's tennis has lost it's luster??

:worship: :wavey: :bounce:

Leo_DFP
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:39 AM
Yep, that's the one I forgot- how on earth did you guess that...
Well, she is the lowest-ranked of those three Vets who have won titles in 2004 and she hasn't been in the spotlight much this year. She can't seem to play well on a consistent basis anymore and definitely not on the big stages. :sad: I hope I'm wrong and that she can have a good run at the Olympics and US Open.

CJK
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:50 AM
CJK- your signature inspired my initial post in this thread....fyi.
:). Yup, the next few years will be great for tennis fans:D

clonesheep
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:53 AM
Interesting thread. You just forgot Daniela Hantuchova. Not one of the "sisters". Not a new gun but not quite a veteran, yet. She is THE COMEBACK KID!

.ivy.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:37 AM
Good post. I do look forward to 2005 when hopefully all of these competitors will be healthy and contending for the titles that count.

Btw, you made one noticeable mistake in your tournament count. After today, the Vets have a total 8 titles (Davenport: 5, Mauresmo: 2, Pierce: 1). You probably forgot Mary's first ever grass court title, but I could never forget. ;)

Me too, I'm waiting for that long awaited date where every single player in the top fifteen can play.

"Topaz"
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:44 AM
Very interesting and, at the same time, puzzling moment!

10nisfanofruz
Aug 2nd, 2004, 07:52 AM
I can't wait to see what will happen next year. However, there is one grandslam left<US OPEN> and I want to see the Young-guns or the Russian sisters win the title. It will be interesting for women tennis. Linset did great for winning 3 straight title but I just want to see new faces win the tournament.

Daniel
Aug 2nd, 2004, 08:12 AM
Myskina :yeah:

Monirena Wiles
Aug 2nd, 2004, 06:21 PM
I am new to this board and I am a little surprised at how vicious and biased so many people are. It has really opened my eyes to how people feel about other players. This is one of the few nice threads and I really like that you dont seem to be too biased, nice thread!

Monica has not retired yet so she should be listed in the group with the Vets which means they would have the most total slams. I agree with your posts I think all the injuries may help the tour in the long run but only if everyone stays healthy from this point on other wise the tour is in serious trouble. I really want to see the Veterans and the Williams do the best those are my favorite groups, then maybe the YoungGuns I like them too.

thelittlestelf
Aug 2nd, 2004, 06:40 PM
I am new to this board and I am a little surprised at how vicious and biased so many people are. It has really opened my eyes to how people feel about other players. This is one of the few nice threads and I really like that you dont seem to be too biased, nice thread!

Monica has not retired yet so she should be listed in the group with the Vets which means they would have the most total slams. I agree with your posts I think all the injuries may help the tour in the long run but only if everyone stays healthy from this point on other wise the tour is in serious trouble. I really want to see the Veterans and the Williams do the best those are my favorite groups, then maybe the YoungGuns I like them too.

Yes, we are all bitchy & biased :). This is a good thread, though.

watrat
Aug 2nd, 2004, 08:18 PM
I am new to this board and I am a little surprised at how vicious and biased so many people are. It has really opened my eyes to how people feel about other players. This is one of the few nice threads and I really like that you dont seem to be too biased, nice thread!



Welcome Monirena Wiles! :wavey:

Wait a few days when your favs start playing. Then will see how understanding your opinions will become. Threads unlike this will surely corrupt you. ;)

Stefwhit
Aug 3rd, 2004, 04:01 AM
The thread starter should have included the players who did really good when they first came on tour but then took huge dives down the rankings. They are the players with a lot of talent and potential, but they dont have good results anymore. Daniela Hantuchova, Alexandra Stevenson, Mirana Lucic, Jelena Dokic, and Ashley Harkleroad. I would love for all of them to be good again that could be really good for the tour but I think there time has passed. I think tennis is way too competitve for players who can't be consistent week to week.
Ok then, but no more groups... and I'm not calling em' the "Comeback Kids" (SORRY 'clonesheep'- their time has passed). Instead we'll call em' the "HAS-NOT-BEENS"... we surely can't call them 'has- beens" because for as good as they got, they never really made it to "BEEN-STATUS", so we'll throw in the "NOT" and it all suddenly makes since...do u follow?!?! I think all these groups are getting out of control- although I guess that just illustrates the point best- "this is turning into a potentially great time for tennis fans."

The Williams’ Sisters (Venus and Serena)
The Belgium Sisters (Kim and Justine)
The Russian Sisters (Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Vera, and Petrova)
The Vets (Lindsay, JCap, MoMo, Pierce and Conchita)
The Young-Guns (KSprem, Gisela Dulko, Tatiana Golovin, Jelena Jankovic, Maria Kirelenko, Molik, and Safina)
The Mid-Range players (Chanda, Sugiyama, Paula Suarez, Schynder, Maleeva, Smashnova, Dechy, Silvia Farina, Frazier, Raymond, and Daniellidou)
The HAS-NOT-BEENS (Daniela Hantuchova, Alexandra Stevenson, Mirana Lucic, Jelena Dokic, and Ashley Harkleroad)
...Here's my prediction of how all these groups will fair in acheivements when it's all said and done.

(1.most relevant & acheivements - 7.least relevant & acheivements)
1. The William's Sisters
2. The Belgium Sisters
3. The Russian Sisters
4. The Vets
5. The Young-Guns
6. The Mid-Range Players
7. The Has-Not-Beens

Stefwhit
Sep 4th, 2004, 01:59 PM
Here we are approaching the end of week one and here's who's made to the round of 16:
The Vets- JCap, MoMo
Williams- one half through- Serena
Russians- Elena D., Zvonareva
Mid-Range- Schiavone, Schnyder, Sugiyama (this group usually makes it to the round of 16. Each year one member of this group will make it to the QFs. It'll happen in Myskina's portion of the draw this year.

Today's match-up include:
Belgium vs. Mid-Range (Justine, Raymond)
Mid-Range vs. Rusian (Silvia,Petrova)
Rusian vs. Mid-Range (Sveta,Amy)
Vet vs Russian (Mary, Sharapova)
Young-Gun vs. Mid-Range (Anna, Eleni)
Mid-Range vs. Mid-Range (Asagoe, Paula)
Williams vs. Mid-Range (Venus, Chanda)
Vet vs. Russian (Lindz, Bovina)

...it looks as though the "Has-Not-Beens" will never be. The "Young-Guns" didn't fair to well either.