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Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:38 PM
Her star quality fades. If she doesn't get in a final and doesn't Defend Wimbledon. She'll definately fall back to the pack of the Wta tour.

Personally, I think she'll stay a "potential" threat but will NEVER dominate.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:40 PM
ha ha ha :lol:

pokey camp
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:43 PM
Funny that people who hate how much attention Maria is getting can't seem to STFU about her. :rolleyes:

Frank
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:46 PM
Funny indeed...

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Her star quality fades. If she doesn't get in a final and doesn't Defend Wimbledon. She'll definately fall back to the pack of the Wta tour.

Personally, I think she'll stay a "potential" threat but will NEVER dominate.

I bet you she don't make it to the rd of 16 some other up and coming player will take her out, then we will see what excuss her fans will have for her.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:54 PM
I bet you she don't make it to the rd of 16 some other up and coming player will take her out, then we will see what excuss her fans will have for her.

It's about tennis but it is sooo not about tennis. If she cannot capitalize on the Court.

Her off court presence will be nil. Meaning NO endorsements. We'll see.

read my signature.

Cam'ron Giles
Aug 1st, 2004, 05:55 PM
It's about tennis but it is sooo not about tennis. If she cannot capitalize on the Court.

Her off court presence will be nil. Meaning NO endorsements. We'll see.

read my signature.
Welcome back...:wavey:

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:01 PM
Welcome back...:wavey:

I don't know how to take this.

Frank
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:02 PM
...:retard:...

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:04 PM
It's about tennis but it is sooo not about tennis. If she cannot capitalize on the Court.

Her off court presence will be nil. Meaning NO endorsements. We'll see.

read my signature.

The thing about it Ballbuster her fans,Sports Writers and Commentators have hyped her so much girls are going to be out to make a failure out of her the same thing happen to Martina H, they tried to do the same thing to the WS but the got injured before they could ,in my opinion everyone liked Kim and Justine so they really were'nt out to get them as much, But mark my word they are out for Maria and they will get her, but I guess in the end she will still have her look which are not all that much unless you are a old white man who like skinny ass white girls with no tits. :lol: It's a joke everybody :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:07 PM
unless you are a old white man who like skinny ass white girls with no tits. :lol: It's a joke everybody :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

.....gagging so hard, I can't breathe, please stop htm,

oh gosh, I gotta go to the gym.

Dave B
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:14 PM
The thing about it Ballbuster her fans,Sports Writers and Commentators have hyped her so much girls are going to be out to make a failure out of her the same thing happen to Martina H, they tried to do the same thing to the WS but the got injured before they could ,in my opinion everyone liked Kim and Justine so they really were'nt out to get them as much, But mark my word they are out for Maria and they will get her, but I guess in the end she will still have her look which are not all that much unless you are a old white man who like skinny ass white girls with no tits. :lol: It's a joke everybody :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hehehe, I think the difference with Kim and Justine is that (most) people never really thought they would dominate once everyone on tour was healthy again. They were like, "isn't this nice that these grils can cpitalize". The backlash comes when people expect everything from up and comers (like Masha, WS) and then they don't always produce beause they are shockingly human.

tenpal101
Aug 1st, 2004, 06:39 PM
Why do you people bash Maria so much. She was great junior, she is a hard worker, and she WON Wimbledon!!! hello???????/ SHE WON WIMBLEDON.... Do you know what that means? No one just wins a grand slam.

No more Sharapova threads ...... damb man that is enough

please

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 07:01 PM
Why do you people bash Maria so much. She was great junior, she is a hard worker, and she WON Wimbledon!!! hello???????/ SHE WON WIMBLEDON.... Do you know what that means? No one just wins a grand slam.

No more Sharapova threads ...... damb man that is enough

please


No one just wins a grand slam, what happen to that girl who defeated Martina H at the French what ever happen to her, well what ever happen to her the same will happen to Maria.

Rocketta
Aug 1st, 2004, 07:47 PM
Welcome back ballbuster....I see your back in rare form. :lol:

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 07:52 PM
No one just wins a grand slam, what happen to that girl who defeated Martina H at the French what ever happen to her, well what ever happen to her the same will happen to Maria.

Was that mary Pierce? And she still thinks she's a Diva on the court.

Sanneriet
Aug 1st, 2004, 07:55 PM
Many great players have had a dry spell (in terms of grand slams) after making their initial breakthru, including Serena Williams (two years), Pete Sampras (two and a half-years), Andre Agassi, and if Roddick does not repeat at US Open, him. So, I guess we can give Maria a couple of years:cool:

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:00 PM
These idiots are obsessed with Maria.

It just displays their underlying fear of a player they knoew is the biggest threat to their faves.

Once Maria took a healthy Serena out, without breaking sweat, a wave of fear ran through them.

mboyle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:04 PM
No one just wins a grand slam, what happen to that girl who defeated Martina H at the French what ever happen to her, well what ever happen to her the same will happen to Maria.
Martina H. isn't Serena Williams, and three hard fought sets isn't 6-1; 6-4, and, most of all, 26 certainly isn't 17:o .

mboyle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:06 PM
Face it: Maria is here to stay. There hasn't even been one single grand slam yet, but all you Williams fans, suddenly realizing that your favorites probably will never dominate again, need to vent your anger on up and comers like Maria.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:08 PM
These idiots are obsessed with Maria.

It just displays their underlying fear of a player they knoew is the biggest threat to their faves.

Once Maria took a healthy Serena out, without breaking sweat, a wave of fear ran through them.

Not True!!

It was because of your dumb threads and overposting and over glamorizing a Lucky winner. I've been waiting on her downfall. It has happened at her countrywoman's hands. She can forget about the USOpen. like htm says,

she's a targeted woman. It's a known fact the wta gals run in a pack and they are simply not too fond of the so-called cuties.

Cam'ron Giles
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:09 PM
Face it: Maria is here to stay. There hasn't even been one single grand slam yet, but all you Williams fans, suddenly realizing that your favorites probably will never dominate again, need to vent your anger on up and comers like Maria.
There you go with "all you Williams fans" again...Mboyle...you did get voted one of the stupidest poster on this board and I disagreed...I am starting to rethink my position...;)

.ivy.
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:09 PM
Her star quality fades. If she doesn't get in a final and doesn't Defend Wimbledon. She'll definately fall back to the pack of the Wta tour.

Personally, I think she'll stay a "potential" threat but will NEVER dominate.

Same here, personally I think that she got lucky in winning Wimbledon. None of the huge players were really there to challenge her. If Justine were there she could have kicked her @$$ 6-0 6-0.

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:11 PM
I bet you Maria will not dominate tennis like the WS, Lindsey, Kim and Justine did her game is just to similar to theirs and you need something differenct to bet these players tournment after tournment.

Sanneriet
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:13 PM
Same here, personally I think that she got lucky in winning Wimbledon. None of the huge players were really there to challenge her. If Justine were there she could have kicked her @$$ 6-0 6-0.

Yeah, who was that nobody she played in the final?:angel:

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:16 PM
Yeah, who was that nobody she played in the final?:angel:

A Not In Form Serena.

let's face it. Maria will not have a legacy. She'll always be known as the 1 Slam Wonder

and she can forget about penning any future endorsements. The girl is toast. She'll have to make her money the old fashion way.

On the Tour

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:19 PM
Not True!!

It was because of your dumb threads and overposting and over glamorizing a Lucky winner.

Lucky winner? You don't win Wimbledon by luck. You don't demolish Lindsay 6-1 in the final set, and crush Serena 6-1 6-4 by luck. and if there are EVER half as many glamorising Maria threads as Williams fans have posted about V&S s bobble dolls and matinee appearanes etc. it would be a miracle.

I've been waiting on her downfall. It has happened at her countrywoman's hands. She can forget about the USOpen. like htm says,

Downfall? Losing 1 match? If that's a downfall, Serena and Venus are dead and buried! They've been clobbered so heavily and so often in the past few months! And you spewed exactly the same bs. before the Wimbledon final, and here you are back again with the same old brew - and it has a really bad smell now.

she's a targeted woman. It's a known fact the wta gals run in a pack and they are simply not too fond of the so-called cuties.

So you're so scared of Maria you want to enlist the whole rest of the WTA to join against her. What. Aren't the Williamses enough? Aren't they going to spank Maria? Or are they just withdrawing from tournaments as soon as she gets too close in the draw?

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:24 PM
Boy, you are simply delusional. I guess you have to learn from experience.

Too bad you gotta experience Maria getting bounced out of the Open to realize she's a 1 slam wonder.

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:25 PM
Same here, personally I think that she got lucky in winning Wimbledon. None of the huge players were really there to challenge her. If Justine were there she could have kicked her @$$ 6-0 6-0.

So Serena and Davenport are not huge players? :rolleyes:

And if Justine's so great, why hasn't she won Wimbledon already? She's had the chances.

No. Kim and Justine won in the absence of the Williams. The Williams won in the absence of Graf and Seles and Capriati... Why, they ALL got lucky!

mboyle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:25 PM
There you go with "all you Williams fans" again...Mboyle...you did get voted one of the stupidest poster on this board and I disagreed...I am starting to rethink my position...;)
I am not stupid. Being outspoken doesn't make me stupid. I do believe that 99% of the hardcore Williams fans are obnoxious. I bet I am obnoxious too, but at least one can reason w/ me.

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:26 PM
Not True!!

It was because of your dumb threads and overposting and over glamorizing a Lucky winner. I've been waiting on her downfall. It has happened at her countrywoman's hands. She can forget about the USOpen. like htm says,

she's a targeted woman. It's a known fact the wta gals run in a pack and they are simply not too fond of the so-called cuties.

Ballbuster I've been a true tennis fan far to long to not to know what will happen to Maria not one of these horney old white men who lust after young babies. Your absolutetly correct about the wta not being fond of SO-CALLED cuties. They are going to destroy her at her fans, commentator, and sportwriters expense becaue they have hyped her too much, to be honest I'm going to feel sorry for her NOT! You remember what happen to Anna K when girls went after her it was so funny, because they distroyed her ego, but unlike Anna it's not going to be the unkowns that are going to be out to get Maria but the true Russian girls who feel she is using Russia to sell herself I think that they are very upset with that. They have already said she is not a real Russian which is true.

mboyle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:28 PM
For example, I didn't even think that Maria would win Wimbledon. I have never said that she was definately going to win any tournament, let alone a slam. In 2002, Bandabou laughed at anyone who said that Venus wasn't going to win the next slam. This year, Liz Chris and other members are hellbent on convincing the entire board that Venus has a 100 times better shot at winning the US Open in comparison to Lindsay, despite the fact that Venus STILL hasn't beaten a top ten player in 10+ tournaments since her "comeback." Maria got killed by Myskina. My prediction? Maria won't make the semis next week in Montreal. I think that Maria will turn out to be one of the greats in the sport, but she isn't there yet.

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:28 PM
Boy, you are simply delusional. I guess you have to learn from experience.

Personal abuse again. You sure must like being banned. But it shows you have no arguments.

As for delusional... Reality Check: Who posted two dozen posts before the Wimbledon final bragging how Serena was going to kill crush and demolish Maria. Ballbuster.

Case closed.

Knizzle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:30 PM
mboyle claims to be a Venus fan, so wouldn't that make him a Williams fan also. Therefore all the claims he is making about Williams fans applies to him also.

mboyle
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:32 PM
No, I am not a Williams fan. I am a tennis fan who likes Venus Williams. I do not feel the need to write off the most promising up and comer since Venus Williams as "a one slam wonder." I do not feel the need to make 50,000 threads a day predicting the ease with which Venus/Serena are going to win that week's tournament (yet they have won a whopping three titles this year between them::o .) I can realize that Maria Sharapova is a real talent who will win several slams before she retires. I also realize that the sisters will probably win several more (more so Serena than Venus.)

Sanneriet
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:38 PM
I can realize that Maria Sharapova is a real talent who will win several slams before she retires. I also realize that the sisters will probably win several more (more so Serena than Venus.)

I agree with both statements. I cannot understand why there always seem to be war of words between fans of particular players.

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:56 PM
The problem is a certain group of people and you know who you are, failure to recognize the WS and others players. They have called them every name in the book but some how they don't see anything wrong with it, but because we don't worship the ground Maria walk on we are some how jealous. There are lots of talented players on the tour but all we hear about is Maria at some point you just get tired of hearing about her. Besides the WS have accomplish more than most of these rich white girls have and they were not given any of the finer things your people were given and that says alot.

tenpal101
Aug 1st, 2004, 08:58 PM
I like Sharapova but come on man.... I think we are all Sharapova out. lets talk about other players tooo okay she is good and she won Wimbledon next subject!!

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:00 PM
I agree with both statements. I cannot understand why there always seem to be war of words between fans of particular players.

Don't tell that to Maria fans and sprts commentators they feel as though Maria is the only one who will win a grandslam title ever again as long as she playing. Like I said before they seem to think shes the second coming of Christ. :angel:

Knizzle
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:02 PM
So Serena and Davenport are not huge players? :rolleyes:

And if Justine's so great, why hasn't she won Wimbledon already? She's had the chances.

No. Kim and Justine won in the absence of the Williams. The Williams won in the absence of Graf and Seles and Capriati... Why, they ALL got lucky!
absence of Seles and Capriati?? Boy you need to check the records. Graf was old and retired.

Knizzle
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:07 PM
No, I am not a Williams fan. I am a tennis fan who likes Venus Williams. I do not feel the need to write off the most promising up and comer since Venus Williams as "a one slam wonder." I do not feel the need to make 50,000 threads a day predicting the ease with which Venus/Serena are going to win that week's tournament (yet they have won a whopping three titles this year between them::o .) I can realize that Maria Sharapova is a real talent who will win several slams before she retires. I also realize that the sisters will probably win several more (more so Serena than Venus.)
I am a tennis fan who likes Serena and Venus Williams. Does that mean I'm not a Williams fan either?? I don't know where you saw those 50,000 threads, but you should bump them up so we all can see. You may not be writing off Maria, but you are sure making her seem alot better than she is in reality. Along with your buddy Doc who is in too deep to be saved.

Kart
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:11 PM
Her star quality fades. If she doesn't get in a final and doesn't Defend Wimbledon. She'll definately fall back to the pack of the Wta tour.

Personally, I think she'll stay a "potential" threat but will NEVER dominate.
Sweetheart, you're back :D.

I'm thrilled.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:13 PM
Ballbuster I've been a true tennis fan far to long to not to know what will happen to Maria not one of these horney old white men who lust after young babies. Your absolutetly correct about the wta not being fond of SO-CALLED cuties. They are going to destroy her at her fans, commentator, and sportwriters expense becaue they have hyped her too much, to be honest I'm going to feel sorry for her NOT! You remember what happen to Anna K when girls went after her it was so funny, because they distroyed her ego, but unlike Anna it's not going to be the unkowns that are going to be out to get Maria but the true Russian girls who feel she is using Russia to sell herself I think that they are very upset with that. They have already said she is not a real Russian which is true.

Precisely.

It will be her OWN countrywomen that are going to destroy her. It's going to be fun, fun fun.

Ivan C
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:17 PM
Ballbuster and htm are not even true americans, they are fake, just pretenders.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:30 PM
Sweetheart, you're back :D.

I'm thrilled.

gosh, seems like I have a fanclub around here. I'm beginning to like it.

Kart
Aug 1st, 2004, 09:34 PM
gosh, seems like I have a fanclub around here. I'm beginning to like it.
Don't get too soft, or else you'll lose your appeal :) :kiss:.

Rocketta
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:00 PM
Don't get too soft, or else you'll lose your appeal :) :kiss:.
:lol:

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:02 PM
:lol:

sup baby, :kiss:, you know I love me some 'ketta.

Rocketta
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:04 PM
sup baby, :kiss:, you know I love me some 'ketta.
:kiss: Nothing much just reading the Davenport/Sharapova/Williams threads and laughing. :wavey:

Don't ever change...;)

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:20 PM
Ballbuster and htm are not even true americans, they are fake, just pretenders.

What is a true american Ivan. Is it like being a white american one who discrimiate, burn crosses in peoples yard, hang black people, burn black churches, no let me guess one who invade this country kill the native americans and kidnap africans and make them build this country up so white people can take control and credit then deny it ever happen then go on tennis boards and call 2 people he never meet unamerican, well if whats being a true american is well I'm sure as hell happy to be a nonamerican. What about you Ballbuster.

Ivan C
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:24 PM
What is a true american Ivan. Is it like being a white american one who discrimiate, burn crosses in peoples yard, hang black people, burn black churches, no let me guess one who invade this country kill the native americans and kidnap africans and make them build this country up so white people can take control and credit then deny it ever happen then go on tennis boards and call 2 people he never meet unamerican, well if whats being a true american is well I'm sure as hell happy to be a nonamerican. What about you Ballbuster.

Hypocrit. Ok, i haven't met you. You called Sharapova "not true russian". Have you ever met her?

Frank
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:24 PM
This whole black and white thing....What on earth does it have to do with Maria Sharapova winning the US Open or not???

Geisha
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:25 PM
I don't agree...I mean, Maria has already shown that she can play consistently, very well. She lost to Myskina...So? Myskina was another Slam Champion. Look at Serena...her star quality didn't fade after she lost so many straight Grand Slams. It was alive because people knew that she could win more and more Slams. She will always be a Slam competitor and so will Maria.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:28 PM
What is a true american Ivan. Is it like being a white american one who discrimiate, burn crosses in peoples yard, hang black people, burn black churches, no let me guess one who invade this country kill the native americans and kidnap africans and make them build this country up so white people can take control and credit then deny it ever happen then go on tennis boards and call 2 people he never meet unamerican, well if whats being a true american is well I'm sure as hell happy to be a nonamerican. What about you Ballbuster.


eloquently spoken!!!

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:31 PM
This whole black and white thing....What on earth does it have to do with Maria Sharapova winning the US Open or not???

Absolutely nothing. Except in the minds of a few loons who are terrified by this 17-year-old Russian girl who threatens their faves.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:34 PM
Absolutely nothing. Except in the minds of a few loons who are terrified by this 17-year-old Russian girl who threatens their faves.

Who is terrified by the Current Tracy Austin?

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:36 PM
[QUOTE=Ivan C]Hypocrit. Ok, i haven't met you. You called Sharapova "not true russian". Have you ever met her?[/QUOTE


No I have never meet her but I know she is trying to play up her parent heritage to make money, when you have true Russians on the tour who live, train in Russia and who are better than her it makes you look it a fake. The true Russian girls know what Maria is up to and I'm sure they won't have it and they shouldn't, But you answer my question did the true americans do what I say the done and was you relatives part of that I bet they were.

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:41 PM
This whole black and white thing....What on earth does it have to do with Maria Sharapova winning the US Open or not???

Ivan C stated that myself and ballbuster were not true american, something blacks are often ask when we don't follow the rules of white people or let them run over us.

Ivan C
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:43 PM
htm, ONLY people like you deserve to be on the receiving end of all that shit you said. Sharapova is 100% russian, if anything more russian than the other jealous russian players.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:45 PM
htm, ONLY people like you deserve to be on the receiving end of all that shit you said. Sharapova is 100% russian, if anything more russian than the other jealous russian players.

and that's why they are going to consistently take her ass out.

They are not jealous, that's too far. I'd say they are envious, and want what she got. Therefore, they won't let her get anything else.

Ivan C. - you finally get it.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:45 PM
this is just such an idiot topic... I really can't understnad why some stupid dumb asses are trying to attack maria like that while the best knowers at tennis know about the legend that is is just about to rise.... I think Wimbledon was only a taste about what Maria can do right now....


If you htm and ballbuster think tht Maria is just a stupid white skinny girl that only won wimby because she was lucky... you are pretty wrong....

Frank
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:47 PM
Ivan C stated that myself and ballbuster were not true american, something blacks are often ask when we don't follow the rules of white people or let them run over us. Oh please, is that still going on? In theory, the only true Americans are the native American Indians...All latino, black, white and Asian people moved to America later...I myself respect all races evenly...Slavery was one of the most horrible things in history but there's nothing that can be changed about that now...You can't blame white people that their ancestors were slavers...You'd have to blame their ancestors... Anyway, I don't understand why you have to bring up the fact that Maria is white in this discussion...

Ivan C
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:51 PM
and that's why they are going to consistently take her ass out.

They are not jealous, that's too far. I'd say they are envious, and want what she got. Therefore, they won't let her get anything else.

Ivan C. - you finally get it.

They? you mean just myskina? cos maria takes dementieva out on h2h's. Myskina is a good russan, she is not jealous, she and maria are friends. Dementieva after what she said is jealous, i mean 0 grand slams at 23 is not something to shout about, if anyone is not a true russian then its dementieva.

Ballbuster
Aug 1st, 2004, 10:53 PM
Maria is just a stupid white skinny girl that only won wimby because she was lucky

You think?

Doc
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:05 PM
If Maria was that insignificant ballbuster and htm wouldn't waste so much of their lives hating, starting threads about, and trying to run down a 17 year old girl.

When are they going to spend ten hours a day solid on the board running down Dokic, Lucic or Srebotnik, like they run down Maria?

No. Their own actions give the lie to what they keep on repeating. If they actually believed Maria was a nobody, they wouldn't devote so much of their existence to trying to repeat it constantly. truth is, as I say, they are scared sh@tless of Maria.

htm
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:30 PM
Oh please, is that still going on? In theory, the only true Americans are the native American Indians...All latino, black, white and Asian people moved to America later...I myself respect all races evenly...Slavery was one of the most horrible things in history but there's nothing that can be changed about that now...You can't blame white people that their ancestors were slavers...You'd have to blame their ancestors... Anyway, I don't understand why you have to bring up the fact that Maria is white in this discussion...


You are joking right when you sad blacks just moved here please tell me you meant blacks were kiddnap and brought here. Its not like we just took a cruise over her and decided to remain here. If its a joke its not very funny. :sad:

.ivy.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:51 AM
What is a true american Ivan. Is it like being a white american one who discrimiate, burn crosses in peoples yard, hang black people, burn black churches, no let me guess one who invade this country kill the native americans and kidnap africans and make them build this country up so white people can take control and credit then deny it ever happen then go on tennis boards and call 2 people he never meet unamerican, well if whats being a true american is well I'm sure as hell happy to be a nonamerican. What about you Ballbuster.

Well spoken!

.ivy.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 12:55 AM
They? you mean just myskina? cos maria takes dementieva out on h2h's. Myskina is a good russan, she is not jealous, she and maria are friends. Dementieva after what she said is jealous, i mean 0 grand slams at 23 is not something to shout about --no, she only medaled at the olympics for her country--, if anyone is not a true russian then its dementieva.

How is Dementieva not a true Russian? She lives in Russia currently! She spent her whole life living there, working her ass off! She drove with Myskina to the Spartak club everyday to train for tennis! Who are you to call her not a true Russia? Have you ever met her? How the hell would you know?

Myskina was the one that called Sharapova not a true Russian, and she said that they were not friends because she didn't know her well.

Doc
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:04 AM
How is Dementieva not a true Russian? She lives in Russia currently! She spent her whole life living there, working her ass off! She drove with Myskina to the Spartak club everyday to train for tennis! Who are you to call her not a true Russia? Have you ever met her? How the hell would you know?

So who the hell are you to say Masha is not a true Russian?

Myskina was the one that called Sharapova not a true Russian, and she said that they were not friends because she didn't know her well.

Well they often train together, and Myskina said she planned to apologise for anything offensive she may have said.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:16 AM
So who the hell are you to say Masha is not a true Russian?



Well they often train together, and Myskina said she planned to apologise for anything offensive she may have said.

When did she say that I believe you are making that up besides why should Myskina apologize she did'nt say anything wrong, and even if she does apologize it don't mean anything. And I know they don't train together because Maria live in the US and Myskina lives in Russia which makes her a real Russian.

Dan23
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:28 AM
I think a few people here need to watch some of the things they say.
Maria does not deserve personal abuse from anyone here.
What position is anyone here in to sit on their ar** at their computer and reel off continual abuse? Same goes for any player.
80% of the threads everyone is complaining about are started by a small minority who seem to have a problem.

Maria has never at any stage come out and said "Im the best player on the tour and im going to win every tournament", she is just like any other player, trying to do her best.
Shes only 17 and its unwise to expect her to follow up her Wimby win with the US Open and equally unwise to write her off ever winning another GS.
I think we should leave her be and she'll show us all what shes capable of. :)

Rgds,
ils

.ivy.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:29 AM
Myskina doesn't seem the type to apologize about something she said, especially something like that.

It is impossible to train on two seperate continents, unless it's pyschic. Also, Dementieva and Myskina train together.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:36 AM
Myskina doesn't seem the type to apologize about something she said, especially something like that.

It is impossible to train on two seperate continents, unless it's pyschic. Also, Dementieva and Myskina train together.

He's just trying to make it seem like all the Russians are friend with Maria, the truth is that they can't stand her and they are going to enjoy beating her down and I just can't wait to see it. Look at when Myskina gave her a beat down she was almost in tears. :lol:

Doc
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:46 AM
He's just trying to make it seem like all the Russians are friend with Maria, the truth is that they can't stand her and they are going to enjoy beating her down and I just can't wait to see it. Look at when Myskina gave her a beat down she was almost in tears. :lol:

I feel sorry for you that you are so driven with hate that you just make up lies of all sorts about this girl, and love to revel at the thought of her unhappiness.

You are clearly a sick, obnoxious individual.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:52 AM
I feel sorry for you that you are so driven with hate that you just make up lies of all sorts about this girl, and love to revel at the thought of her unhappiness.

You are clearly a sick, obnoxious individual.

No I'm just so sick of all this hype around her that now I do hope she fall off this pedestal her fan have put her upon, and I do hope a real Russian bring her down. :devil:

.ivy.
Aug 2nd, 2004, 01:53 AM
While I don't like Maria, I don't think that all the Russian girls hate her, they just dislike her.

At least Maria isn't like Anna, and she trains (maybe not enough, but she does)

Ballbuster
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:08 AM
Didn't they say maria was the greatest.

Geez, her fanbase are rather loony

RainyDays
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:11 AM
i totally agree with everything htm has said in this entire thread.

MinnyGophers
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:15 AM
What I don't understand is why people enjoy giving Maria a hard time and post useless bashing things about her.
First of all -- she DOESN'T CARE what everyone thinks of her: Heck she just won Wimbledon, made tons of money since then, and doesn't give a sh!t about what others think, let alone internet posters who spend their time bashing other instead of being more productive to society.
Second of all-- she is freaking 17! SEVENTEEN!!! She is still a kid, leave her alone, it is just sick. She has done nothing to deserve to be hated this much. Her personnality on court is beautiful and her off court is as sunny. Is it her fault that the media and some fans proclame her as the greatest player blah blah blah and have a shrine with her portrait in it where they say their prayers everyday?? NO.
Third of all--- Who GIVES that she could be a one time slam wonder??? She showed times and times again that she could compete with the best. Heck she is one of the few people on this damn earth that actually won a Slam?? Can you say the same thing about yourself? And she makes more money that you most of you ( me included ) will make in a lifetime.
Finally--- No one cares whether she is Russian or not! If she says she does, good for her! If the other Russians think she is not, then it is their opinions. Got it?? this is not our business.

pffiiuuu long post. But it just makes me sick how people can spend so much of their life bashing a 17 year old kid who was unknown just a few months ago...

K good night!
Peace out!
No offense, just my opinion!

Edit:
Adding that I am not a particular fan of Maria, but I do respect her as a player and as a person. ( unlike some of you).
It is not like she is acting all bitchy and all claiming that she is the best and blah blah blah... She is just playing and doing what she is supposed to do. This is why I can't understand why people would want her to fail so bad.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:24 AM
i totally agree with everything htm has said in this entire thread.


You know what RainyDays there only a few on this board who get what I'm saying the rest do they just don't want to admitt it. They seem to hold Maria up to a different standard, but there are a number of people who are going to make wonderful to watch this girl fall down to earth I just can't wait and you better beieve I'll be back saying I told you so, but I'm glad you get where I'm coming from.

Ballbuster
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:29 AM
You know what RainyDays there only a few on this board who get what I'm saying the rest do they just don't want to admitt it. They seem to hold Maria up to a different standard, but there are a number of people who are going to make wonderful to watch this girl fall down to earth I just can't wait and you better beieve I'll be back saying I told you so, but I'm glad you get where I'm coming from.

every dog or shall I say every chi chi waw waw has their day.

faboozadoo15
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:30 AM
better question is-- what if serena williams doesn't win the us open? over a year without a slam... while maria has her wimbledon and is only getting better and more famous no matter how she does at the us open.

Doc
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:38 AM
You know what RainyDays there only a few on this board who get what I'm saying the rest do they just don't want to admitt it. They seem to hold Maria up to a different standard, but there are a number of people who are going to make wonderful to watch this girl fall down to earth I just can't wait and you better beieve I'll be back saying I told you so, but I'm glad you get where I'm coming from.

If you and RainyDays are hoping for misfortune to befall a 17-year-old tennis player, and planning to gain enjoyment from her pain, then you are true haters, and need some sort of urgent psychological counselling and evaluation.

You certainly are no tennis fans.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:41 AM
better question is-- what if serena williams doesn't win the us open? over a year without a slam... while maria has her wimbledon and is only getting better and more famous no matter how she does at the us open.


If Serena don't win then Venus will or some other player besides Maria, you think those girls on the wta will allow Maria to win two gradslam titles in a row please.

faboozadoo15
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:52 AM
If Serena don't win then Venus will or some other player besides Maria, you think those girls on the wta will allow Maria to win two gradslam titles in a row please.
maybe, maybe not. we'll just have to wait and see. you didn't really answer my question. what if serena doesn't win? what does that mean for her? maria has proven herself this year, plain and simple. of course she also has many years in front of her....

Dan23
Aug 2nd, 2004, 02:58 AM
If you and RainyDays are hoping for misfortune to befall a 17-year-old tennis player, and planning to gain enjoyment from her pain, then you are true haters, and need some sort of urgent psychological counselling and evaluation.

You certainly are no tennis fans.
Good call, Doc.
Have a good read of MinnyGophers post as well!!
Maria herself has done nothing to deserve that and those who cant at least respect a Grand Slam winner arent what you'd call tennis fans.
She is in no way arrogant and never talks herself up like other players often do.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:08 AM
maybe, maybe not. we'll just have to wait and see. you didn't really answer my question. what if serena doesn't win? what does that mean for her? maria has proven herself this year, plain and simple. of course she also has many years in front of her....


If Serena doesn't win I don't think it will say that much because the expectations is not there, but in Maria case you all have hyped her up so much if she don't win the it factors is going to fall and I mean fast and the fake Russioan will be known as a washed up has been. In Serena case she can go no where but up.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:11 AM
If you and RainyDays are hoping for misfortune to befall a 17-year-old tennis player, and planning to gain enjoyment from her pain, then you are true haters, and need some sort of urgent psychological counselling and evaluation.

You certainly are no tennis fans.


You mean how all you white folks were hoping for the down fall of the WS, remember you all thought the WS were bad for tennis.

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:13 AM
We have to keep this thread alive so that when MAria wins we can just rub it on your face!

MinnyGophers
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:15 AM
You mean how all you white folks were hoping for the down fall of the WS, remember you all thought the WS were bad for tennis.

excuse but you are generalizing about it. NOT everyone were praying for the WS downfall, only but some losers.
I guess this is what we can call you then also. Since all you are praying for now is the downfall of a white 17 year old kid. You claim racism but aren't you too? Double standard.

peace out

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:17 AM
Good call, Doc.
Have a good read of MinnyGophers post as well!!
Maria herself has done nothing to deserve that and those who cant at least respect a Grand Slam winner arent what you'd call tennis fans.
She is in no way arrogant and never talks herself up like other players often do.


And the WS deserve such treatment.

htm
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:20 AM
excuse but you are generalizing about it. NOT everyone were praying for the WS downfall, only but some losers.
I guess this is what we can call you then also. Since all you are praying for now is the downfall of a white 17 year old kid. You claim racism but aren't you too? Double standard.

peace out


I only give out what I get but you know if Maria was black you all would be calling her a no brain ball basher like you did the WS.

faboozadoo15
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:42 AM
excuse but you are generalizing about it. NOT everyone were praying for the WS downfall, only but some losers.
I guess this is what we can call you then also. Since all you are praying for now is the downfall of a white 17 year old kid. You claim racism but aren't you too? Double standard.

peace out
good one!!! a lot of these people love their double standards ;)

MinnyGophers
Aug 2nd, 2004, 03:43 AM
I only give out what I get but you know if Maria was black you all would be calling her a no brain ball basher like you did the WS.

again you are generalizing. I am quite a fan of the WS ( okay only after Juju and Momo lose). Then what would you do if Maria was black?
so because others treated the WS with no respect, Maria should be also? Then what about the other players ? They do get their fair share of bashing, but I haven't seen as much on anyone else as I've seen on Maria recently.

Ivan C
Aug 2nd, 2004, 08:06 AM
Ballbuster and htm are SO racist, they are saying Maria is "not true russian" as she's got slightly darker skin than the average russian and she's not white enough. Now that is out of order. :mad: