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iloveazza
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:26 AM
She's spent more than half her life on the American soil and speaks excellent English if not perfect. She was schooled in the U.S. and behaves more American than Russian in my opinion. She does speak Russian very well (dunno how well but heard ppl say so) and seems to identify herself as Russian rather than American.
But the media in most part seems to treat her as if she were an American and that's the way I look at her as well. She's just too different from other Russian players to be considered Russian.
What do you think?

MinnyGophers
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:29 AM
She's spent more than half her life on the American soil and speaks excellent English if not perfect. She was schooled in the U.S. and behaves more American than Russian in my opinion. She does speak Russian very well (dunno how well but heard ppl say so) and seems to identify herself as Russian rather than American.
But the media in most part seems to treat her as if she were an American and that's the way I look at her as well. She's just too different from other Russian players to be considered Russian.
What do you think?


dude what's up with all those Sharapova threads???
You better post those on the Sharapova board.

goldenlox
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:29 AM
"Even though I've trained in America, my blood is Russian and no one is going to tell me where I'm from." - Sharapova.

Junex
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:32 AM
She is russian by blood and by heart.

It is her life and it has to be her decision to stay russian or to be an american.
It doesn't matter how well she speak english or how americanized she act, as long as she feels russian she will always be russian to me.

I dnt really care what country she will represent (unless its the philippines, LOL!) she is still my #2 fave.

tenn_ace
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:32 AM
depending on how you spell her name... the way it's spelled in the thread's name -American, if you spell it Sharapova - Russian.

deckham
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:35 AM
only she truly knows what she feels like....

if i was asked i would say she is russian....

she was born there with russian parents and ideals, but raised for the most part in the united states... she's still a russian, but she leads an american life....

so she's a russian in the u.s. :)

Shenanigans
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Is she not wanting to change her nationality to British? Maybe that is just rumour.

Fingon
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:38 AM
who is Sharapove?

Julian
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:39 AM
she is a Russian-born American! :D

tenn_ace
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:39 AM
she is a Russian-born American! :D

tell her that :wavey:

Julian
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:40 AM
Please let this topic go to rest lol..Ive had enough of the old "What do you consider Mary Pierce-French, American, or Canadian threads!" lol

deckham
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:41 AM
Please let this topic go to rest lol..Ive had enough of the old "What do you consider Mary Pierce-French, American, or Canadian threads!" lol
french!! i don't like her and i don't like the french!!! quebec or france!!

rjd1111
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:49 AM
She's spent more than half her life on the American soil and speaks excellent English if not perfect. She was schooled in the U.S. and behaves more American than Russian in my opinion. She does speak Russian very well (dunno how well but heard ppl say so) and seems to identify herself as Russian rather than American.
But the media in most part seems to treat her as if she were an American and that's the way I look at her as well. She's just too different from other Russian players to be considered Russian.
What do you think?

She's from Siberia. Doesn't that make her a Mongol.

Shenanigans
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:50 AM
french!! i don't like her and i don't like the french!!! quebec or france!!


Hater!! I love Quebec,

SerenaVenusNo1
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:00 AM
She's from Siberia. Doesn't that make her a Mongol.

No.

SelesFan70
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:01 AM
She's Russian, she's not taken the test to become an official American.

iloveazza
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:02 AM
It's not about her considering herself American or Russian but about how WE look at her. can't believe the thread I meant all good by was turned into bashing toward me.

beauty_is_pink
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:03 AM
i consider her American

iloveazza
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:04 AM
i consider her American

Finally someone educated has written in.
This is the kind of answer I was looking for.

rjd1111
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:10 AM
Finally someone educated has written in.
This is the kind of answer I was looking for.


She has stated repeatedly that she is Russian. After what America
has done for her If she doesn't want America then America sure
as heck doesn't need her. Let her go back to Mongolia.

I Love Sharapova
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:11 AM
I consider her an American

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:45 AM
Again? She's Russian.
Her talent came from Russia, and without it that American training would have been useless.
Her parents are Russian. She considers herself Russian. She has a bond with Russia. She's patriotic.

There are people who haven't been in their country for decades and they still consider themself Russians, and I don't want to think about them otherwise, because I myself am one of them, and on this very forum there are a few dozen such people.

rjd1111
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:23 AM
I consider her an American



I am an American. Its fine if she loves Her Country. Let go back
there if she is so patriotic. Where is the first place she went
after she won. America. She made all the talk shows and partied
in America. I have more respect for Myskina and Dementi. They went
to Russia and celebrated with their countrymen.

rjd1111
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:37 AM
Again? She's Russian.
Her talent came from Russia, and without it that American training would have been useless.
Her parents are Russian. She considers herself Russian. She has a bond with Russia. She's patriotic.

There are people who haven't been in their country for decades and they still consider themself Russians, and I don't want to think about them otherwise, because I myself am one of them, and on this very forum there are a few dozen such people.


Once again, Fine if she's patriotic. I haven't read anywhere that she
went back once there since she won. Why? It's not like she can't
afford it. There are many people from other countries who have made
there home here. Its what America is all about. But most of them try
to gain American citizenship. Are you a citizen? There is an oath one
takes upon gaining citizenship. There is nothing wrong with being
proud of your heritage but it seemed to me she was almost insulted
when asked.

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 06:49 AM
Once again, Fine if she's patriotic. I haven't read anywhere that she
went back once there since she won. Why? It's not like she can't
afford it. There are many people from other countries who have made
there home here. Its what America is all about. But most of them try
to gain American citizenship. Are you a citizen? There is an oath one
takes upon gaining citizenship. There is nothing wrong with being
proud of your heritage but it seemed to me she was almost insulted
when asked.
Give me one reason why she didn't get US citizenship then.
You know feeling Russian, loving Russia, etc is a different thing with living in Russia. Like Masha I'll probably never retur to live in Russia, and guess what: I'll call myself Russian, cheer for Russia, vote and all this stuff anyway.

mandy7
Jul 30th, 2004, 06:58 AM
She's spent more than half her life on the American soil and speaks excellent English if not perfect. She was schooled in the U.S. and behaves more American than Russian in my opinion. She does speak Russian very well (dunno how well but heard ppl say so) and seems to identify herself as Russian rather than American.
But the media in most part seems to treat her as if she were an American and that's the way I look at her as well. She's just too different from other Russian players to be considered Russian.
What do you think?
well over 50% of holland speaks "excellent english"
and our government is turning us into mini-america
BUT WE'RE ALL STILL DUTCH!!

so sharapova is russian.. DUH! :rolleyes:

pixy75
Jul 30th, 2004, 07:28 AM
Now masha is clearly Russian...But if she goes on staying America, some years later she will be a perfect american girl like kournikova, I am afraid of it.

Sharapower
Jul 30th, 2004, 07:43 AM
Mariah Sharapovort (USA).
Mariah Sharapovams (USA) :devil:

Ivan C
Jul 30th, 2004, 07:48 AM
Whats up iloveazza? You did some very well thought out threads yesterday, but what this hell is this thread? :confused: This is the most stupid thread I have ever seen! She is 100% Russian

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:31 AM
Now masha is clearly Russian...But if she goes on staying America, some years later she will be a perfect american girl like kournikova, I am afraid of it.
Funny that Kournikova has been to Russia atlest twice in the last two years. That's more than Sharapova.

speaks excellent English if not perfect.
Why don't they write "S" between the two letters of "UK". Unites States Kingdom, whose population speaks perfect English.

LostGlory
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Russian made , American refurbished.....:)

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:47 AM
so she's a russian in the u.s. :)

Exactly...do you know how frustrating and annoying it is to ask you the nationalty question? Iīve already said this before, I was born in Germany but my parents are from Hong Kong, but I have a german pass. So I just say: My parents are from Hong Kong, I was born in Germany, I have a german pass...thatīs it. I behave german, cause chinese normally donīt shake hands, chinese donīt use knifes when eating, I can do that, I drive on the right side instead on the other side - itīs ridiculous, of course you have to behave differently... who cares what the others say? If you hadnīt been in that situation, you wonīt understand this cultural conflict.

The russians should be proud that they have someone like her, who loves her country though not having grown up there, so shut up everyone, including Dementieva and Nastya (anyway love ya, so please beat your country woman!!!).

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:00 AM
The russians should be proud that they have someone like her, who loves her country though not having grown up there, so shut up everyone, including Dementieva and Nastya (anyway love ya, so please beat your country woman!!!).
:lol: :haha: I feel the same: Shut up Nastya and Lena. Just go ahead and beat her!

Rothes
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:50 AM
Shes a Russian Citezin filled with American Rescource and Talent ;)

Frank
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:03 AM
"Even though I've trained in America, my blood is Russian and no one is going to tell me where I'm from." - Sharapova.
Isn't this the end of this discussion?
And please, it's so impolite spelling somebody's name wrong....

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Funny that Kournikova has been to Russia atlest twice in the last two years. That's more than Sharapova.


Maria visits her relatives in Russia at least once a year. But her relatives live over a thousand miles from Moscow, in Sochi. Her dad was back there a few weeks ago, when he had his visa problems.

Only Americans seem to think everyone who lives there has to adopt citizenship. Loads of Britons like Julie Andrews, Michael Caine, Dudley Moore etc. lived in the US for years without becoming American. The same goes in reverse for people like Getty, Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow who like to live in the UK.

Joanna Lumley was born and raised in India - does that make her Indian? And I thin Petrova is really an Egyptian..... ;)

iloveazza
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:32 AM
Well, sorry but most of you guys have failed to see my point. It's obvious as hell she's a Russian who acts American but that's not the question I asked. It's a matter of whether ppl look at her as American or Russian and there's no inbetween. There's expressions like more American and more Russian.
In my opinion she's more American than Russian cuz she spends most of the year in the States and acts more American than Russian.

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Well, sorry but most of you guys have failed to see my point. It's obvious as hell she's a Russian who acts American but that's not the question I asked. It's a matter of whether ppl look at her as American or Russian and there's no inbetween. There's expressions like more American and more Russian.
In my opinion she's more American than Russian cuz she spends most of the year in the States and acts more American than Russian.

Well, thatīs right and I understand your point, but still, if she feels she is a russian no one should attack that or take it away from her.

iloveazza
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Well, thatīs right and I understand your point, but still, if she feels she is a russian no one should attack that or take it away from her.

Thinking she's more American is an attack against her?
Wow, we mere posters have so much power these days.

Voevoda
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:44 AM
She's from Siberia. Doesn't that make her a Mongol.
You are from North America. Doesnt't that make you Indian? (part of the mongoloid race, btw)
:rolleyes:

rjd1111
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:29 AM
You are from North America. Doesnt't that make you Indian? (part of the mongoloid race, btw)
:rolleyes:

Yes I am part Indian

Rothes
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Shes a Russian Lada, then re-essembled into a American V8 ;)

Frank
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:11 PM
She's from Siberia. Doesn't that make her a Mongol.
Her parents moved to Siberia from Belarus when she wasn't born yet...

deckham
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Hater!! I love Quebec,
well i'm deeply sorry you love quebec.... :lol:

Ekkekko
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:07 PM
It doesn't matter what the media projects her to be...Whether she's American or Russian.
Different people have different perceptions of her.
But what matters most is who she thinks of herself to be.
She's Russian through and through. Her motherland.
Why would you wanna speculate how the media perceives her to be?
Besides, her name should've been Sharapova...not Sharapove.

vw43
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:37 PM
I think the original question was "do YOU consider Sharapova American or Russian"..

Why is there a debate about what SHE considers herself?

I consider her Russian but sometimes I do find myself rooting for her as if she were an American player because she gets lot of coverage here and has trained here and so on.

Annika18
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Some people are so silly :silly:

"do YOU consider Sharapova American or Russian" was the question, which is actually talking about nationality and who she represents, rather than what she sounds like or whatever. As Maria Sharapova has stated countlessly, she is Russian, she feels Russian, her relatives are Russian there is no debate here, as nationality is not some sort of negotiated concept.

She is legally, emotionally and politically Russian, so why is America even trying to claim she is one of them? :confused:

Dolphin
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:19 PM
I think of her as 100% Russian :)

Experimentee
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:32 PM
Of course shes Russian. She identifies with Russia and retains her citizenship, so she obviously feels Russian.
Lots of players live and train in other countries, but that doesnt make them nationals of those countries. If that was the case then Monte Carlo would have the best Davis Cup team in the world :rolleyes:

Frank
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Of course shes Russian. She identifies with Russia and retains her citizenship, so she obviously feels Russian.
Lots of players live and train in other countries, but that doesnt make them nationals of those countries. If that was the case then Monte Carlo would have the best Davis Cup team in the world :rolleyes:
Haha! Yes, Monte Carlo would be really happy... :lol:
Anyway, Maria says she feels 100% Russian so what's the point discussing this in the first place?

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:44 PM
If she feels Russian then I guess she is Russian...but to most everybody she is american. The Russians donīt consider her russian, the americans see her as american, she doesnīt play fed cup for Russia, etc....alas, in the end it donīt matter. You are who you are.

Ivan C
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:00 PM
This is FACT, she is not American and will NEVER be American. She IS 100% proud russian through and through.

Hiko
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:04 PM
She was schooled in the U.S. and behaves more American than Russian in my opinion... She's just too different from other Russian players to be considered Russian.
What the hell does that mean?

How do you behave American? How is she so different from the other Russian players?

Her father moved her to another country when she was young because it presented - in his mind at least - her best opportunity for success. She stays in America because that is where her coaches are, and that is where she is comfortable.

Lots of players from other countries move to Florida because of the Training Facilities/Coaching/Weather. If you want to make it in the film business, it's a lot easier if you move to L.A.

I have a friend whose company transferred him to Japan 6 years ago. He likes living in Japan - he's perfectly happy there. But he still considers himself American.

You are what you identify yourself with.