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Crazy_Fool
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Who will win?

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:24 PM
They are not the top 2 Russians.
I want Nastya to reach #1, so Nastya:D.

faboozadoo15
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:24 PM
maria's game is really picking up and she's passed losing to myskina when she should be beating her. she serves bigg and returns bigger, and she should win. but myskina's tough, a real fighter, and runs down a lot and sends it back with good pace.

wongqks
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:25 PM
wow, this is gonna be tough, especially seeing how wasy Maria handle Gisela..

But I still going to go out of the limb and guess Myskina in three sets.

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:27 PM
:haha: :rolls: What is this?! This is like asking who is gonna win when Steffi Graf plays one of the Maleevaīs. Hello!! The greatest ever doesnīt mess around. Myskina better get a good party after her win against Chanda today, because tomorrow ainīt gonna be pretty...Iīd surprised if Myskina even wins more than 3 games in the match.

volta
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Myskina can handle Maria she knows what 2 do to stop the attacks she might play like she usually does against big hitter "counter-attack". i hope Nastya wins this

Spunky83
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:30 PM
Whoever wins this, will be crowned as the queen, the loser will be called "overrated"...thrilling!

Doc
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:32 PM
I don't know what you think you're playing at bandabou, but it isn't working...


Anyway, Myskina came out on fire today, and Maria followed her out and topped her performance. So they both seem to be playing well.

If Maria can get past Myskina, I think she has a good chance of going all the way. Myskina is the big test. It's going to be tough because Nastya gets everything back. But if Maria plays her best and keeps cool, I think she can beat Myskina this time. it's 2-0 to Myskina so far.

Make it 2-1 Masha.

BK4ever
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:32 PM
The one thing that can hurt Nastya in this match is her second serve...if she can get a high percentage of first serves in, it should be and interesting contest.

I hope it will be on ESPN tomorrow morning.

Spunky83
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:32 PM
:haha: :rolls: What is this?! This is like asking who is gonna win when Steffi Graf plays one of the Maleevaīs. Hello!! The greatest ever doesnīt mess around. Myskina better get a good party after her win against Chanda today, because tomorrow ainīt gonna be pretty...Iīd surprised if Myskina even wins more than 3 games in the match.

Maria is "the greatest" ever? :rolleyes: ...all this trash talk against Maria or Nastya really pump me up. I wished it would be tomorrow already;)

Doc
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Whoever wins this, will be crowned as the queen, the loser will be called "overrated"...thrilling!

It should be the final. A semi at least.

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:35 PM
I don't know what you think you're playing at bandabou, but it isn't working...


Anyway, Myskina came out on fire today, and Maria followed her out and topped her performance. So they both seem to be playing well.

If Maria can get past Myskina, I think she has a good chance of going all the way. Myskina is the big test. It's going to be tough because Nastya gets everything back. But if Maria plays her best and keeps cool, I think she can beat Myskina this time. it's 2-0 to Myskina so far.

Make it 2-1 Masha.


Whoīs playing?! Tell me one player in history at age 17 who has had better results than Maria! This ainīt no juke.

the cat
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:36 PM
It's really not an important match. The next time they play in a grand slam will be an importnat match. This match is more important to Maria than Anastasia because Masha needs to prove she will beat Myskina. And I think Masha will win in 3 sets 6-4 3-6 6-3. Masha is bigger and stronger than Myskina is and she needs to make Anastasia feel like a weakling when they play. Nastya can really run though and her defense should pose a major problemfor Masha.

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Maria is "the greatest" ever? :rolleyes: ...all this trash talk against Maria or Nastya really pump me up. I wished it would be tomorrow already;)

You better believe it.....;)

*hingis_forever*
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:37 PM
Whoīs playing?! Tell me one player in history at age 17 who has had better results than Maria! This ainīt no juke.
Martina Hingis had better results at 17! :angel:

lizchris
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:37 PM
Myskina played two former top ten players in Schett and Rubin and shoul be ready for Maria, who has basically walked through the draw playing a qualifier and someone who is ranked out of the top 50.

I say Myskina in three sets.

Spunky83
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:38 PM
You better believe it.....;)

Uhhh... :kiss: ...I canīt believe how excited I am about this match-up, itīs weird. :bounce:

BK4ever
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:41 PM
Whoīs playing?! Tell me one player in history at age 17 who has had better results than Maria! This ainīt no juke.
Duh Hingis :rolleyes: , Serena, Monica and many more...you have your head too far up her ass :lol:

wongqks
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:44 PM
We use to see Williams sisters conflict when they are dominating, then a big war between the belgians last year, are we finally seeing some rift between different russian fans now? :angel:

Atrixo
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:47 PM
:haha: :rolls: What is this?! This is like asking who is gonna win when Steffi Graf plays one of the Maleevaīs. Hello!! The greatest ever doesnīt mess around. Myskina better get a good party after her win against Chanda today, because tomorrow ainīt gonna be pretty...Iīd surprised if Myskina even wins more than 3 games in the match.

Bandabou, your attempt at continued "sarcasm" is growing tiresome! :rolleyes:

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Duh Hingis :rolleyes: , Serena, Monica and many more...you have your head too far up her ass :lol:


Yeah, but that was against weak competition...

Spunky83
Jul 29th, 2004, 11:59 PM
You know the interesting thing is that Nastyaīs always extra motivated when playing against a fellow countrywoman. Her stats against the current russians who are in the top 100 is 21-9.

She always seems to play better when having the chance to defend her place as best russian player.

Dementieva: 4-3
Sharapova: 2-0 (3-0... ;) )
Kuznetsova: 3-1
Petrova: 3-1
Zvonareva: 0-1
Bovina: 1-2
Likhovtseva: 2-1
Safina: 3-0
Krasnoroutskaya: 2-0
Jidkova: 1-0

t_fan
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:02 AM
If Masha keeps her cool and doesn't allow her confidence to deflate she's gonna win this encounter. Wish I Nastya squeezed into Wimby'04 4th round!

*JR*
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:03 AM
Bandabou, your attempt at continued "sarcasm" is growing tiresome! :rolleyes: Yeah, Bandy's gotta diversify here. When Lei Clijsters' Not News, I can still Rip Rainer & Pepper Patty, Paste Peter (Krazy Krajicek) And Abuse Various Villains. Posters, Patience Please, Because Bandy Needs New Tempting Target! :p

tenn_ace
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:07 AM
like them both, a bit more Nastya, so I hope she'll win... but if Maria wins, it's ok too. as long as the winner goes deep in the draw (all the way ;) )

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:09 AM
Bandabou, your attempt at continued "sarcasm" is growing tiresome! :rolleyes:


why is it sarcasm?! Iīm a believer now.....no doubt in my mind that tennis hasnīt witnessed true greatness till the day Maria came on the tour. :angel:

tenn_ace
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:10 AM
why is it sarcasm?! Iīm a believer now.....no doubt in my mind that tennis hasnīt witnessed true greatness till the day Maria came on the tour. :angel:
finally you got it. I'm so glad for you. I started to worry about you. yahooooooo!:wavey:

*JR*
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:11 AM
why is it sarcasm?! Iīm a believer now.....no doubt in my mind that tennis hasnīt witnessed true greatness till the day Maria came on the tour. :angel: OMG, that's EXACTLY how the Martians used To Talk! :lol:

CJK
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:12 AM
why is it sarcasm?! Iīm a believer now.....no doubt in my mind that tennis hasnīt witnessed true greatness till the day Maria came on the tour. :angel:
So you want to jump ship......Well, it's pretty late to do that now.
If you were born a Williams fan to the tennis world, then you will die a Williams fan.
Be more loyal, otherwise you'll sound sarcastic:).

CJ07
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:15 AM
It depends. If Myskina forces Maria to play by her rules, she'll win.

If Maria forces Myskina to play by her rules...she'll win.

Whoever imposes themselves on court first with their tactics will win

tenn_ace
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:21 AM
It depends. If Myskina forces Maria to play by her rules, she'll win.

If Maria forces Myskina to play by her rules...she'll win.

Whoever imposes themselves on court first with their tactics will win

I thought they all use the same Rules of Tennis :p ;) :wavey:

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:26 AM
So you want to jump ship......Well, it's pretty late to do that now.
If you were born a Williams fan to the tennis world, then you will die a Williams fan.
Be more loyal, otherwise you'll sound sarcastic:).

Come on, come on....sometimes it takes time for a player to grow on you.

Ivan C
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:27 AM
Come on, come on....sometimes it takes time for a player to grow on you.

Why don't you add Maria to your signiture then?

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:37 AM
GO SKINA! Crush her and prove you are the greatest russian player: more titles and a greater ranking!

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:40 AM
check it out now, ivan...:angel:

thelittlestelf
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:44 AM
Hmm... Maria has a much better serve and has more power off the ground, but Nastya will run down a lot of her shots and can also generate significant power from her racquet, particularly her backhand. Maria doesn't move as well, but after watching her match with Serena and seeing her hit all those running forehand winners I take back what I said before about her poor movement, although it is hard to judge it on just one match.

Tough one!

Ivan C
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:55 AM
check it out now, ivan...:angel:

Thats better now! Maybe make it bold or use some colour to make it stand out more. :)

Hant Hant
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:01 AM
omg exciting. maybe the third time facing myskina will be the lucky one for maria

mboyle
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:05 AM
I hope Maria will win easily. Somehow I forsee Natsya winning, however.

LindsayRocks89
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:21 AM
i hope and think Maria can win this, good luck to u maria!!!!! :bounce:

goldenlox
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:21 AM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040729/i/r131953836.jpg Thu Jul 29, 4:16 PM EThttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/nws/p/reuters120.gif (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/reuters/brand/SIG=pd7i95/*http://www.reuters.com)
French Open champion Anastasia Myskina of Russia celebrates after breaking the serve of U.S. player Chanda Rubin during play at the Acura Classic in Carlsbad, California July 29, 2004. Myskina advanced to the quarter finals with a 6-1 6-2 win.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:56 AM
Mykina has more peronality and game and drive and beauty. GO SKINA!


pova does have long legs though. RUN HER SKINA RUN HER LIKE A GIRAFFE!

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:08 AM
Sharapova will play the third-seeded Myskina in Friday's quarter-finals at La Costa Resort and Spa.

"It's going to be very tough for me. Now she's playing much better," Myskina said of Sharapova. "I want to prove that French is not only one tournament I was playing good."

Myskina, the top-ranked player in Russia, is 2-0 against Sharapova this year. She beat her in three sets at the Australian Open and in straight sets at Indian Wells in March - both on hardcourts.

"I haven't beaten her yet and I like these kind of challenges," Sharapova said. "She's very consistent, she moves very well and she gets everything back. You have to stay patient. Indian Wells was a terrible day for me. I've become such a more experienced player."

Myskina and Sharapova won their first Grand Slam titles this year. But they couldn't be more different. Myskina is in her eighth year on the WTA Tour, and frequently mentions being homesick for Russia.

Sharapova came to the United States when she was 7 to pursue her tennis, and is the most Americanized of all the talented Russians who have become a major force in women's tennis.

"I think she's more comfortable here," Myskina said. "Her mentality is more American, but she still speaks good Russian. She's still a nice girl. She handles pressure very good."

But Sharapova sharply rejected a suggestion that she feels American, even though she spends only a few weeks a year in her native country.

"We've had totally different ways of growing up and developing our careers," she said. "Even though I've trained in America, my blood is Russian and no one is going to tell me where I'm from."

Sharapova raced through the first set in 18 minutes against the overmatched Dulko, who was to play Venus Williams in the first round. But Williams withdrew because of a right wrist injury before their match, and Dulko beat Tamarine Tanasugarn and Mary Pierce to reach the third round.

"I just made it quick," Sharapova said. "I played very solid and I was on a roll even though she served very well. I was able to make some returns and put pressure on her."

http://www.canada.com/news/story.html?id=7A92ABB6-5509-4246-8173-AEA5B35975ED

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:13 AM
Mykina has more peronality and game and drive and beauty. GO SKINA!


pova does have long legs though. RUN HER SKINA RUN HER LIKE A GIRAFFE!

Funny how the supporters of certain other players in the draw desperately want Myskina to win.....

Chunchun
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:28 AM
hard to vote @ this poll.

me think MaSha will hv a high chance

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:32 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040729/capt.cadp10907292331.carlsbad_cadp109.jpg
Maria Sharapova (news) of Russia holds up her racket to acknowledge the applause of the crowd after winning her third-round match against Gisela Dulko (news) of Argentina at the Acura Classic in Carlsbad, Calif. Thursday, July 29, 2004. Sharapova won the match 6-0, 6-1. (AP Photo/Denis Poroy)

clonesheep
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:44 AM
My heart says Myskina. My mind says 50-50. So go Myskina!

deckham
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:50 AM
Whoīs playing?! Tell me one player in history at age 17 who has had better results than Maria! This ainīt no juke.
you are a complete goof..... hingis you fool.... she won at 16. you think sharapova has accomplished more at 17 than hingis?????? :lol:

shap_half
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:05 AM
Myskina's game is far more versatile and multifacted than Maria. sorry, but I don't really feel like Maria (winning Wimbledon and all) is all that great. She won Wimbledon against Lindsay who pratically gave up in the end of the second set and Serena who wasn't anywhere near the level of play she showed against Mauresmo. if Maria wins San Diego, I'll consider her Top 5 material.

Leo_DFP
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:30 AM
Myskina.

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Myskina's game is far more versatile and multifacted than Maria. sorry, but I don't really feel like Maria (winning Wimbledon and all) is all that great. She won Wimbledon against Lindsay who pratically gave up in the end of the second set and Serena who wasn't anywhere near the level of play she showed against Mauresmo. if Maria wins San Diego, I'll consider her Top 5 material.

So beating the former top player on grass and the top player on hard back to back is nothing, but being handed the FO title on a plate by a double faulting, error-strewn Demenieva is so much better??

As for Lindsay, she herself said that it was Maria's good play that turned that match round. And when is Serena ever supposedly "at her level" when she gets beat?

beauty_is_pink
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:43 AM
go go Nastya!!! :D

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:44 AM
Anyone who thinks that Myskina has more than 10 % chance of winning more than three games tomorrow is deluding himself. The Maria that Myskina was beating was the "old" or rather "young" Maria.....when Maria wasnīt the greatest ever yet.

tterb
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:53 AM
I'll say Anastasia in three. Although I'm biased because she's a favorite of mine (not to mention she's already beaten one of my biggest faves, Chanda) ;)

But I think it will be a competitive match. If Maria is on fire and dictates the points with her serve and groundies, it will be a rough day for Myskina... She can run down a ton of shots, but she doesn't want to be forced to rely on that the entire match. But if Myskina throws off Maria's rhythm early by moving the ball around and mixing up the pace and depth of her shots, she'll be tough to beat. Anastasia will need to pick the right time to go for winners tomorrow. I think the key factors will be if Myskina can induce unforced errors from Maria by mixing it up, and how well Anastasia serves... The more first serves in, the better her chances, because her second serve may be destroyed.

Go Myskina! :D

Atrixo
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:03 AM
I'm going to be optimistic here, Maria in three. :)

If Myskina let's Sharapova dictate the points --- as others have mentioned --- Myskina won't have the weapons to recover. She can play defence all she wants, but with a more patient and disciplined Sharapova, Myskina certainly won't be able to run them all down. Tough Myskina is arguably the best "mover" on tour; but don't discount the fact Maria does have good mobility for her size; and she has amazing court sense and anticipation. Maria definitely has the advantage in the serve dept.; both her first and second serves will be a factor. Maria has shown that she's also a deadly returner, Myskina's serve will have to "on" to nullify that.

I think in the end it'll come down to the mental aspect; who wants it more? It really could go either way for each player!

Good luck Maria! :bounce:

rue
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:34 AM
I think that Myskina will win this one. She is the more experienced player and will be looking to just show Maria who the real boss is amongst the Russians but it is a tough one to call too.

Heeves23
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:52 AM
bandabou is just trying to get attention. This one is a toss up.

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:26 AM
My common sense tells me that Myskina has to win, but I wouldn't hide the fact that Maria scares the shit out of me.

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:33 AM
If Myskina let's Sharapova dictate the points --- as others have mentioned --- Myskina won't have the weapons to recover.
Except for the backhand and that forehand, between which the commentators often failed to choose the better one, until Nastya herself told them which is the weapon of her choice...

She can play defence all she wants, but with a more patient and disciplined Sharapova, Myskina certainly won't be able to run them all down. Tough Myskina is arguably the best "mover" on tour; but don't discount the fact Maria does have good mobility for her size; and she has amazing court sense and anticipation.
Maria isn't more patient. On the contrary I think that Myskina has better patience than Maria. I wouldn't want to be the one choosing the one who has better sense and anticipation in this battle. I know though, that Myskina's tactics are superior.
Maria definitely has the advantage in the serve dept.; both her first and second serves will be a factor. Maria has shown that she's also a deadly returner, Myskina's serve will have to "on" to nullify that.
Myskina isn't a weak returner too. And Nastya's serve has been "on" so far, why wouldn't it be for this match?

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LindsayRocks89
Jul 30th, 2004, 06:33 AM
maria is a way better player than she was at indian wells, and yes myskina is a great player, but Maria has so much confidence, and she doesnt want to go 0-3 aganist myskina, she knows she has to stay patient, and that is good, Maria can defintiely win this, go Maria!!!!! :bounce:

Sharapower
Jul 30th, 2004, 07:06 AM
I really don't know who will win. Of course I would prefer Sharapova, because I think she has the better chances to win the whole tournament.

IMHO Maria's tennis is superior to Myskina's but Maria is gonna have more pressure because she will think about her 0-2 record to Nastya and Nastya is far more experienced.

franny
Jul 30th, 2004, 07:29 AM
Man I honestly don't know, this is such a hard match to call. I'm just hoping that it's not a let down and one of them plays so horribly that we get a 6-2, 6-3 result. I really hope they both play their best and we get to see a real battle out there. Myskina I'm sure will bring her "A" game. She seems to love the challenge of playing her countrywomen. Maria on the other hand, I don't know. We'll have to see. Looking forward to it though.

Buitenzorg
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:29 AM
Tough one BUT Myskina has better chance to win ;)

pixy75
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:34 AM
I am a big myskina fan. But as far as I saw their match in wimbly, Masha seems to beat Nastya...cuz Masha's condition reaches a peak now

Gandalf
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:46 AM
I think Maria will win in straights, unless Myskina is inspired and frustrates her by retrieving lots of balls...

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 08:56 AM
I am a big myskina fan. But as far as I saw their match in wimbly, Masha seems to beat Nastya...cuz Masha's condition reaches a peak now

I donīt think that you can compare the current Nastya to the Wimby one. Wimby really was a waste of her time, she wasnīt ready for it and of course Masha was. However, Nastya seems to be on a great run right now, Maria as well...omg, this is really hard to say who will be the winner, but somehow my heart AND mind says Nastya (it was the same feeling prior to the FO-final).

Come on Nastya!!!

PS: One bad thing though...As far as I see it, this is going to be Nastyaīs first night match, while Maria already played under the flood light. I hope Nastya can adjust too that.

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:08 AM
Funny how the supporters of certain other players in the draw desperately want Myskina to win.....
It surely is fuuny :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think Maria will win in straights, unless Myskina is inspired and frustrates her by retrieving lots of balls...
that's a very likely "unless". Myskina would surely be inspired and is just as likely to retrive a lot of balls. 'Tis not her first time.

PS: One bad thing though...As far as I see it, this is going to be Nastyaīs first night match, while Maria already played under the flood light. I hope Nastya can adjust too that.

Wasn't doubles in the evening?

Ivan C
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:15 AM
Go on Maria!!!! Myskina is very talented and nice person as well. Both players DESTROYED their opposition yesterday, shows we will probably have a VERY high standard match today! :)

Nemesis
Jul 30th, 2004, 10:22 AM
I want Myskina to win. I hope she'll show that there IS some other brandnew GS champ that is not called Maria. Come on, Nastya! You can do it!!!

Wow ... :eek: I'm really becoming a fan of Anastasia ... Somehow she found a way to crawl higher in my popularity ladder ...

Lyn
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:18 AM
It's gonna be one tough match....But, Nastya all the way!! I think it's gonna be a tight 3-setter....

Nastyafan
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Wow I see a lot of new Nastya's fans and believers here. I hope that isn't because they hate Masha.
I believe Nastya will win this showdown. She is really motivated to prove that she is Russian #1 and a win here will clear a path to #1 in the world. . Masha will have many more opportunities to prove herself, Nastya needs this now. She knows how to handle other Russians and how to tame the power. Only the serve will be the biggest problem in this match, is she manages to serve decently I'm pretty sure she will be in control here.

Go Nastya:kiss: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#):yeah: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#)

Nemesis
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:29 AM
Wow I see a lot of new Nastya's fans and believers here. I hope that isn't because they hate Masha.
For me it isn't ... I don't hate Masha. I was happy she won Wimbledon and like her personality and her game is nice to watch. I just hate the morronic press and guys that suddenly all know Maria and drool over her. Look to fora where they've never talked about anything that concerns tennis (except for Anna maybe) and you'll almost always see a "Maria Sharapova" topic. It's kinda like my opinion about Kim. I don't hate her, I hate the overly praise to her in the Flemish newspapers.

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:34 AM
Wow I see a lot of new Nastya's fans and believers here. I hope that isn't because they hate Masha.


I have the strange feeling that this is the actual reason for it ;)

Doc
Jul 30th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I've been thinking about this match quite a bit since yesterday. A few points:

1. The record: Maria is 2-0 down. And one of the losses was bad. However Maria had just as bad a record against Serena before Wimbledon, and turned it around big-time. She lost by a big margin to Daniela in the Spring, and again reversed that convincingly at Wimbledon.

2. Motivation. Both want this. Both want to "prove" their slam wins weren't flukes. Both want to be seen as the best Russian. Both sent strong messages to each other yesterday (written on the mangled bodies of their opponents). But Nastya has other fish to fry this summer. She is able to attend more tournaments, where the AER limits Maria, and Nastya is going to Athens. This means Masha has the greater motivation here.

3. The weapons. Maria has the edge on power, and on serve. Myskina can produce the odd blistering shot and raking serve, but she can't keep it up for a whole match. Myskina is tricky and tactically savvy. She will try to mix it up all she can and disrupt Maria. But this depends on whether Maria lets herself be disrupted. Maria is quite canny on court too, and she knows that Myskina is definately not unbeatable, even by Russians. So if she keeps steady, Masha has the weapons to impose her game on Nastya. If she serves and hits lines like she's been doing recently, there's not a lot Myskina can do about it.

So I think, all in all, Masha has a good chance to win it. Go Masha! :D

Nastyafan
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:07 PM
I have the strange feeling that this is the actual reason for it ;)
I know there are a few people, the only reason to be on Nastya's bandwagon is their intolerance of Masha, but I want to believe, the majority of new members here really appreciate Nastya

Beat
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:43 PM
i hope it'll be anastasia! :)

jan.
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Myskina owns Sharapova 2 sets winner - myskina.

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 12:46 PM
I know there are a few people, the only reason to be on Nastya's bandwagon is their intolerance of Masha, but I want to believe, the majority of new members here really appreciate Nastya

Itīs interesting isnīt it?

pixy75
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:40 PM
I donīt think that you can compare the current Nastya to the Wimby one. Wimby really was a waste of her time, she wasnīt ready for it and of course Masha was. However, Nastya seems to be on a great run right now, Maria as well...omg, this is really hard to say who will be the winner, but somehow my heart AND mind says Nastya (it was the same feeling prior to the FO-final).

I see, spunky, Nastya overwhelmingly beated Chanda. I wish now she is all right:D

Nastyafan
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:54 PM
Itīs interesting isnīt it?Which one?
That Masha's haters are Nastya's supporters now?- that is the way the world goes.
Or that Nastya gains new fans? It's just a matter of time unbiased people to begin realizing what a great player and a personality she is.:angel:

bandabou
Jul 30th, 2004, 01:58 PM
I've been thinking about this match quite a bit since yesterday. A few points:

1. The record: Maria is 2-0 down. And one of the losses was bad. However Maria had just as bad a record against Serena before Wimbledon, and turned it around big-time. She lost by a big margin to Daniela in the Spring, and again reversed that convincingly at Wimbledon.

2. Motivation. Both want this. Both want to "prove" their slam wins weren't flukes. Both want to be seen as the best Russian. Both sent strong messages to each other yesterday (written on the mangled bodies of their opponents). But Nastya has other fish to fry this summer. She is able to attend more tournaments, where the AER limits Maria, and Nastya is going to Athens. This means Masha has the greater motivation here.

3. The weapons. Maria has the edge on power, and on serve. Myskina can produce the odd blistering shot and raking serve, but she can't keep it up for a whole match. Myskina is tricky and tactically savvy. She will try to mix it up all she can and disrupt Maria. But this depends on whether Maria lets herself be disrupted. Maria is quite canny on court too, and she knows that Myskina is definately not unbeatable, even by Russians. So if she keeps steady, Masha has the weapons to impose her game on Nastya. If she serves and hits lines like she's been doing recently, there's not a lot Myskina can do about it.

So I think, all in all, Masha has a good chance to win it. Go Masha! :D


Not comparable with Serena...I mean in one match you canīt tell much, but against Myskina Maria actually went backwards....

Myskina has more motivation because she can rise to no.2.

But that was the old Maria...this the new Maria, the greatest ever. This should be easy: something like 6-0 6-2 for Maria.

Dave B
Jul 30th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Key points to the match:

1. Weapons. What is essential here is that they both have weapons, believe it or not. As Pam Shriver says Myskina's groundstrokes are feared in the locker room. She will like to work her way into the points. Masha, on the other hand, would be wise to keep points relatively short, and only long if she is in control of them. This makes Mykina's returning and serving ciritcal. If she can serve and return well enough to get points to nuetrel she has the ad.

2. Motivation. Usually I would just give this one to Masha. I think if any word describes her entire career, it is ambition. Even when she is not playing well, Maria goes for her shots and tries every point to play quality. Myskina, on the other hand, can definitly take some mental breaks in matches, just like she did in the AO against Sharapova. She will have to play a complete match to win. Additionally, Masha is very aware she has not beaten Nastya, and this also further motivates her. However, Myskina's desire to rise in the rankings and stay the top Russian though perhaps gives her as much motivation as Masha. This is an interesting match because they both really want the win.

This is a very tough one to call, and I think it will rely heavily on who is having a good day. I think both will fight and it will probably go three. Given that, Maria has managed to beat many players who she had never beaten before recently. Everyone knows about Serena, but take Zvonereva...on clay. Masha commits errors, but usually when she is not in control of the point. Therefore, I think Myskina's movements to get the balls back won't be enough because even if she can get the balls back Masha will win almost all of those points anyway. Therefore, eventually Masha's power will probably triumph over Myskina's tactics and tenacity.

Vass22
Jul 30th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Therefore, I think Myskina's movements to get the balls back won't be enough because even if she can get the balls back Masha will win almost all of those points anyway. Therefore, eventually Masha's power will probably triumph over Myskina's tactics and tenacity.
Nasta can not only get a lot back, but get it back so deep that one can't attack much. She'll also take risk and hit some running down the line shots, etc.

rue
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I would love to see Myskina win this one. She will be out to show Maria who the real boss amongst the Russians really is. She is a more experienced player and that may help her get through the match.

xan
Jul 30th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Maria has improved a huge amount in these past months. She's grown in confidence, patience and technique. If she plays her best, Myskina will have a hard time responding.

Plus, I think Maria is the one of the pair who could go farther in this competition.

Dave B
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:05 PM
Nasta can not only get a lot back, but get it back so deep that one can't attack much. She'll also take risk and hit some running down the line shots, etc.

Very true. Guess we will have to see if Masha can really put away her shots or if Myskina can turn the point around ala Kim.

Spunky83
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Iīll give it a shot: Nastya def. Maria 2-6 6-4 6-2 ;)

alfonsojose
Jul 30th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Whoīs playing?! Tell me one player in history at age 17 who has had better results than Maria! This ainīt no juke.

u were born yesterday? :baby: Hingis, Seles .....

lizchris
Jul 31st, 2004, 04:54 AM
Myskina played two former top ten players in Schett and Rubin and shoul be ready for Maria, who has basically walked through the draw playing a qualifier and someone who is ranked out of the top 50.

I say Myskina in three sets.
I was half right; Myskina won in straight sts.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 31st, 2004, 05:25 AM
Not comparable with Serena...I mean in one match you canīt tell much, but against Myskina Maria actually went backwards....

Myskina has more motivation because she can rise to no.2.

But that was the old Maria...this the new Maria, the greatest ever. This should be easy: something like 6-0 6-2 for Maria.
Why do people continue to underestimate myskina? She is the number three player in the world for a reason. She has more titles than the other russians for a reason. She is better.

lizchris
Jul 31st, 2004, 05:32 AM
Why do people continue to underestimate myskina? She is the number three player in the world for a reason. She has more titles than the other russians for a reason. She is better.
I must admit that I was impressed with Myskina's play, especially when she was facing set point; I expected her to blow the set, but she hung in there. I could also see why she beat Venus at the French Open and that was because she was patent ad waiting for Venus to make errors, which is what happened against Maria tonight.