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CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 01:25 AM
I think it was voted tournament of the year by many players in 2002, and 2001, and years before that. But in 2003 the award was taken by Dubai Duty Free Open, which is only a Tier II. I'm not sure who got it this year. But with the field we are getting, have we done anything wrong? Can someone tell me why?

beauty_is_pink
Jul 28th, 2004, 02:07 AM
i think now with our new stadium, we'll be back up.. the stadium is gorgeous :hearts:

Tennisfan-Mtl
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:00 AM
It isn't the Canadian Open that was voted best tournament....but the Bell Challenge in Quebec city :) :)

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:04 AM
That's correct, Quebec City was voted to be tournament of the year, for Tier III-V.
For Tier I-II, the favourites among the players have always been Indian Wells and Canada Open. :). And Canada gets the 2 most favourite events on tour, how cool is that:). With the addition of Vancouver, it might be a favourite soon:D.

switz
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:06 AM
i wouldn't take it so personally. i'm sure they still like you

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:07 AM
The Canadian Open used to be great until 2000, when Du Maurier not only sponsored the even but also managed it.

Du Maurier had its own marketing people and they made all the decisions. Tennis Canada's official were mere decorative figures (that's about what they are capable of).

When Du Maurier left, we had a whole bunch of old bored ladies directing the tournament, and they have no clue whatsoever, starting with the tournament director.

Today I went to the night session of the men's matches (I had free tickets), I could only see a set because it was rained out. The annoying part is that they could have finished the match if they weren't so damn stupid. They had people drying the outside courts and only 3 machines on centre court, finally somebody had a moment of clarity to got the damn machines on centre court, they wasted at least half an hour with that.

I mean, you don't need to be a rocket scientist, if no match is completed on Centre Court they have to refund the tickets, and no tv. If I was the tournament director I would get everyone, and I mean everyone drying the court, put 200 people to do it and you get it dried in no time, but that's too much for Stacey's little brain.

Unless they put someone with half a brain as tournament director, the tournament will keep falling in the players and crowd preferences, it's a shame but it's true. They need professional managers, not bored housewives with nothing better to do.

aceman
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:12 AM
The Canadian Open used to be great until 2000, when Du Maurier not only sponsored the even but also managed it.

Du Maurier had its own marketing people and they made all the decisions. Tennis Canada's official were mere decorative figures (that's about what they are capable of).

When Du Maurier left, we had a whole bunch of old bored ladies directing the tournament, and they have no clue whatsoever, starting with the tournament director.

Today I went to the night session of the men's matches (I had free tickets), I could only see a set because it was rained out. The annoying part is that they could have finished the match if they weren't so damn stupid. They had people drying the outside courts and only 3 machines on centre court, finally somebody had a moment of clarity to got the damn machines on centre court, they wasted at least half an hour with that.

I mean, you don't need to be a rocket scientist, if no match is completed on Centre Court they have to refund the tickets, and no tv. If I was the tournament director I would get everyone, and I mean everyone drying the court, put 200 people to do it and you get it dried in no time, but that's too much for Stacey's little brain.

Unless they put someone with half a brain as tournament director, the tournament will keep falling in the players and crowd preferences, it's a shame but it's true. They need professional managers, not bored housewives with nothing better to do.
Can i apply as tournament director on women side? ;)

Tennisfan-Mtl
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:12 AM
That's correct, Quebec City was voted to be tournament of the year, for Tier III-V.
For Tier I-II, the favourites among the players have always been Indian Wells and Canada Open. :). And Canada gets the 2 most favourite events on tour, how cool is that:). With the addition of Vancouver, it might be a favourite soon:D.

Ok :) I wasn't aware of that :) Thanks ;)

switz
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:13 AM
somebody is full of resentment

i still don't understand this no covers technique that they persist with. i find it hard to believe that the courts would perspire that much, and those machines do shit all IMO.

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:14 AM
Can i apply as tournament director on women side? ;)
are you a bored housewife?

aceman
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:16 AM
are you a bored housewife?
No but maybe acemantennis.com webmaster can do better than housewifes :) :)

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:21 AM
somebody is full of resentment

i still don't understand this no covers technique that they persist with. i find it hard to believe that the courts would perspire that much, and those machines do shit all IMO.
the reason why you don't understand that is because it's :bs:

if it was true (which I don't think it is) they could manage to put a cover with a gap over the court, with an impermeable material drying to the sizes, they even could have a retractable cover and they could put their damn ads on it.

The reason is that they are not paid to think, they just follow the script and can't think of anything beyond it, as I said about today, it wasn't that difficult to realize they needed to get centre court ready first, but that's not in the rules book :rolleyes: Considering that at least one day is rained out every fucking year in Toronto and Tennis Canada loses tens of thousands of dollars every time they could think of a better solution.

And the machines are indeed shit, 200 people with towels would do a lot better.

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:22 AM
No but maybe acemantennis.com webmaster can do better than housewifes :) :)
if you can do better then you don't qualify, I forgot to mention you also need to be very stupid.

aceman
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:25 AM
if you can do better then you don't qualify, I forgot to mention you also need to be very stupid.
Ok i can't qualify :) I share your opinion about covering courts.

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:39 AM
the reason why you don't understand that is because it's :bs:

if it was true (which I don't think it is) they could manage to put a cover with a gap over the court, with an impermeable material drying to the sizes, they even could have a retractable cover and they could put their damn ads on it.

The reason is that they are not paid to think, they just follow the script and can't think of anything beyond it, as I said about today, it wasn't that difficult to realize they needed to get centre court ready first, but that's not in the rules book :rolleyes: Considering that at least one day is rained out every fucking year in Toronto and Tennis Canada loses tens of thousands of dollars every time they could think of a better solution.

And the machines are indeed shit, 200 people with towels would do a lot better.
lol, I guess we are just less experienced that's all. We after all only has 2 tournaments and with weather hot like this, it was probably unexpected, (well at least in Vancouver). But they said already that it was not really much of a rain, but more like a drizzle, they didnt expect it would last this long. So maybe we can give TC a break?:). Though no one seems to be running like in slams and stuff, goes to show you how easy going we Canadians are.

btw, I think since Rogers sponsors it, they did better jobs promoting it, they might not manage it as well, but being a communication company, they do good advertisement for it:).

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 03:59 AM
lol, I guess we are just less experienced that's all. We after all only has 2 tournaments and with weather hot like this, it was probably unexpected,

unexpected??? :rolleyes: hello, it's Toronto, it rains every fucking week in the whole year, and the tournament has had rain every single year, trust me, it's gonna rain every single year.

(well at least in Vancouver). But they said already that it was not really much of a rain, but more like a drizzle, they didnt expect it would last this long.

it was bad enough to stop play, and if they expected it not to last that long then they are more stupid than I thought, the weather forecast said showers were expected all day and the sky was totally covered by dark clouds.

So maybe we can give TC a break?:). Though no one seems to be running like in slams and stuff, goes to show you how easy going we Canadians are.

I am not giving them a break :devil: , I am Canadian and I am NOT easy going :fiery:


btw, I think since Rogers sponsors it, they did better jobs promoting it, they might not manage it as well, but being a communication company, they do good advertisement for it:).
Rogers can't promote its own ass. I remember in 2001, the first year they sponsored it, they had set up some pc for internet access, I was like hello, Rogers = internet access, their ads --> so fast, so they will work really well,

guess what, they sucked, they couldn't have that right :rolleyes:

in 2002 in Montreal they didn't even have internet access :rolleyes:

you think they would make a big deal trying to show their products, the name Rogers gets buried among other in centre court.

The Rogers stand offers you a free call to the US (A 5 c value!!!) and they give some shit for your face, I thought they sold cell phones services :confused:

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 04:05 AM
LOL, I guess now I understand why it's not voted tournament of the year.:D.
With the anger of the tix buyers coming in, hope they can improve next year:).
By the way, did Tracy the organizer commentate on tsn before, she looks familar.

Fingon
Jul 28th, 2004, 04:23 AM
LOL, I guess now I understand why it's not voted tournament of the year.:D.
With the anger of the tix buyers coming in, hope they can improve next year:).
By the way, did Tracy the organizer commentate on tsn before, she looks familar.
Tracy? the tournament director is Stacey something and I think she was a player (not very good)

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 04:28 AM
Oh yeah, that's right Stacey, the Tracy Austin lookalike, lol:).

~SunFlower~
Jul 28th, 2004, 04:37 AM
Vancouver might defend Quebec City 6-0, 6-0 to be the best Tier III-V tournament this year. ;) Vancouver will attract players as it takes their breath away for sure. ;) Vancouver is the most expensive and beauitful city to live in Canada.

Bring on, Vancouver.. we will treat you the players like queen! :)

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 04:43 AM
Vancouver might defend Quebec City 6-0, 6-0 to be the best Tier III-V tournament this year. ;) Vancouver will attract players as it takes their breath away for sure. ;) Vancouver is the most expensive and beauitful city to live in Canada.

Bring on, Vancouver.. we will treat you the players like queen! :)
You go girl:).:woohoo:........VANCOUVER ROCKS:D

Hingiswinsthis
Jul 28th, 2004, 05:11 AM
I love Canada! Went to Quebec and Toronto a few years back and the people were so nice. :kiss:

Asmus
Jul 28th, 2004, 05:25 AM
Vancouver Kicks Ass!

¤CharlDa¤
Jul 28th, 2004, 05:31 AM
Come on Quebec! You'll win again ;)

Ladingda
Jul 28th, 2004, 05:36 AM
Just because the players don't vote it the best doesn't mean it isn't. I've been to many Toronto tournaments and they've all been fantastic, and I've chatted with several players and they all think the facilites are great. Wait until these Women see the Rexall Centre, then maybe we can ask why they didn't vote it No. 1 ;)

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 08:09 AM
Just because the players don't vote it the best doesn't mean it isn't. I've been to many Toronto tournaments and they've all been fantastic, and I've chatted with several players and they all think the facilites are great. Wait until these Women see the Rexall Centre, then maybe we can ask why they didn't vote it No. 1 ;)
Let's hope we get to have 2 Tournament of the Year again this year with our new tennis facility, I'm sure it'll help a lot:D.
By the way, I think Vancouver is quite capable of taking that title from Quebec City since we've got the best weather and back drop for the tournaments in Canada, it wont even be close:D.

ToeTag
Jul 28th, 2004, 08:18 AM
The Canadian Open used to be great until 2000, when Du Maurier not only sponsored the even but also managed it.

Du Maurier had its own marketing people and they made all the decisions. Tennis Canada's official were mere decorative figures (that's about what they are capable of).

When Du Maurier left, we had a whole bunch of old bored ladies directing the tournament, and they have no clue whatsoever, starting with the tournament director.

Today I went to the night session of the men's matches (I had free tickets), I could only see a set because it was rained out. The annoying part is that they could have finished the match if they weren't so damn stupid. They had people drying the outside courts and only 3 machines on centre court, finally somebody had a moment of clarity to got the damn machines on centre court, they wasted at least half an hour with that.

I mean, you don't need to be a rocket scientist, if no match is completed on Centre Court they have to refund the tickets, and no tv. If I was the tournament director I would get everyone, and I mean everyone drying the court, put 200 people to do it and you get it dried in no time, but that's too much for Stacey's little brain.

Unless they put someone with half a brain as tournament director, the tournament will keep falling in the players and crowd preferences, it's a shame but it's true. They need professional managers, not bored housewives with nothing better to do.
:rolleyes:

Have you always been a woman hater or did that just start?Perhaps just indulging in Canada's favorite pastime:WHINING.I would hardly call SA a 'bored housewife".Stacey Allister (http://www.yorku.ca/yusaa/9%20SBC%202004/2004%20SBC%20Stacey_Allister_Bio_Page.html) .

Also,about the lack of a cover,well when I flipped over to TSN the atp ref said that was easier said than done because even with a cover water would still get on the court and according to him it would make it even harder to dry.He also mentioned that a tarp would require a inflating device,and that obviously when its' cool and no sun that it takes longer to dry the court because of the material the court is made out of.

tobe
Jul 28th, 2004, 08:36 AM
Qubec rocks as well! YEAH! :bounce:

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 08:16 PM
Oh no.....Dokic is not coming.....we'll be the worst Tier I event of the year. We might even have less than 5 top 10 players coming to Canada:rolleyes: Maybe Russian Open can beat us, but right now, we are the worst event.

CapFan#1
Jul 29th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I dont know about the award part, but the reason many players aren't coming this year is because of the Olympics, and to a lesser extent, the injuries (kim, JHH)

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 08:50 PM
I dont know about the award part, but the reason many players aren't coming this year is because of the Olympics, and to a lesser extent, the injuries (kim, JHH)
Yes we know, but still......this is the 2nd oldest event and the oldest HO event in history outside the slams. And it'll be almost the only back to back Tier I events with Berlin downgrade next year. I hope they realize that Canada Open is still one of the most prestigious HO events in the world, and stop skipping it, like Lindsay:rolleyes:.

CapFan#1
Jul 29th, 2004, 08:59 PM
Well, Lindsay will probably never play there since she will most likely retire. Look, many of the players site how they love this tourney..... Jennifer, Serena, Momo, ...... they all say how well it is run and great to the players. This year, it is fucked up because of where the olympics are being played and when..... that's all

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Yeah I know, so let's pray there is no more withdrawals, we've suffered enough already:).

CapFan#1
Jul 29th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Plus, every player has some tourney(s) that for whatever reason, they just dont like.

Jen HATES Indian Wells and Amelia Island, but both are great tourneys.....nothing in paticular, jus doesnt lilke them.....no big deal, they are still great tourneys.....

Maybe Davey has a bad memory of a bad loss at the Canadian open......
I know she has a yearly committment w/ New Haven, which is the week after CO, and right before the USO...... there is no way she would play 4 weeks in a row.......................

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 09:06 PM
Fine, skip New Haven then. Oh well, if she does not want to come, it's fine with me, it's not like she is on the top 3 of the GE list anyways (they rank by popularity:)). Good that Jennifer and Serena have been pretty committed.

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 09:10 PM
Yeah, I understand, but like I said, I dont care if she comes or not, she is not a big draw anyways:).

CJK
Jul 29th, 2004, 09:12 PM
:rolleyes: because if she had come more, she would have been my favourite. Oh well:).

CJK
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:28 PM
I think that the fact Maria wants to come shows that we still have one of the more popular tier I's in the world:).

hingis-seles
Jul 30th, 2004, 09:56 PM
I attended the Canadian Open men's event in 2004 and I attended the women's event in Dubai in 2003. Toronto this year was shit compared to Dubai.

Hey Cool Canuck! :wavey:

CJK
Aug 5th, 2004, 06:48 AM
I think the players are liking this event more and more:D.
And with the great attendance, we should get that title back this year:).

Mattographer
Aug 5th, 2004, 10:26 AM
Gold Coast won the best tournament of Tier III or lower last year :)