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CJK
Jul 27th, 2004, 05:40 AM
Amazing how injuries can be so significant on a player's career.
There has been 45title defenders this year.

Justine Henin-Hardenne: Dubai titles to defend: Canadian Open, US Open, Zurich
Out of the 8 tournaments she won last year, she only defended 1, but that's the 2nd worst defending efforts this year.


Serena Williams: Miami titles to defend: none
She has won owned Miami for the last 3 years. This is the tournament which is owned by the sisters with 6 of the last 7 years won by a Williams, a record of 21-0.



Lindsay Davenport: Tokyo titles to defend: none
She has owned Tokyo title for the last 3 years and won 4 of the last 5 Tokyo titles. Martina won it 6 years ago and won again 2 years later. Lindsay also set a record losing 13 games only.


Anastasia Myskina: Doha titles to defend: Leipzig, Moscow
First ever title Defense for Nastya and this is after the upgrade of Doha


Fabiola Zuluaga: Bogota titles to defend: none
She won Bogota for the 3rd straight years, tying her record with Lindsay and Serena.




And the 6th person I hope to see defend is
Kim Clijsters titles to defend: Filderstadt, Luxemburg, YEC
She has defended at least once for the last 3 years, the most on tour.
2001: she defended Leipzig, her first Tier II or above title.
2002: she defended Luxemburg, the place where she won her first title in 99
2003: she defended 3 titles YEC, Filderstadt and Luxemburg.
(She owns Luxemburg, she was an Anna Kournikova away from winning it for 5 years.:)
But YEC and Filderstadt are 2 of the hardest tournaments to defend outside slams.)

In 2003 she led the tour by title defense with 3 title defense,
followed by Serena who defended 2 titles (Wimbledon and Miami).

But out of the 9 titles she won in 2003, she has defended none, and the only ones left are the 3 she defended last year. And YEC and Filderstadt will take a miracle to defend, so the best chance will come at Luxemburg where she can do a four-peat, let's hope she can do that, Farina-Elia failed it this year,
Just want to add that I thought Steffi was the one to do it four times, then I found out that the last person to do a 4-peat was Venus Williams beating Lindsay 3 times and Monica once in the New Haven:).

GOOD LUCK KIM CLIJSTERS :angel: :angel:

Keith
Jul 27th, 2004, 05:43 AM
She hs not played healthy since like February.

Keith
Jul 27th, 2004, 05:44 AM
Steffi couldnt defend anything in 2000 either.

Leo_DFP
Jul 27th, 2004, 06:02 AM
:lol: Keith.

xin_hui
Jul 27th, 2004, 06:31 AM
it really shows a lot about your intellegience when u take a player whos been injured the most part of the year:o

jesper1979
Jul 27th, 2004, 06:34 AM
what a stupid thread is this, it's like saying that while Brazil is the best soccer team in the world they didn't win the european championships this summer
Get it?

tennisIlove09
Jul 27th, 2004, 07:11 AM
when you're injured, of course not. She's the Venus of 2003 :o (while Serena wasn't able to defend her US Open, Venus of course was injured for all of her summer titles, and also B&L title)

CJK
Jul 27th, 2004, 07:14 AM
it really shows a lot about your intellegience when u take a player whos been injured the most part of the year:o
I think people have already realized this. The point I'm trying to get across to is that it's really been a wacky year where only a few have defended. I believe last year by now there were already close to 10 title defenses. But the injuries have been keeping some of the super stars last year to defend. It's really sad even though refreshing for the tennis scene.

NO BASHING INTENDED. Just trying to point out the interesting lack of defense in 2004.
So please do not misunderstand this thread, thx:).

jesper1979
Jul 27th, 2004, 07:15 AM
when you're injured, of course not. She's the Venus of 2003 :o (while Serena wasn't able to defend her US Open, Venus of course was injured for all of her summer titles, and also B&L title)

Both Kim and justine are really not able to play so far. Both still really love the game and will try everything to be back as soon as possible, and with the williams break last year i'm not sure they were to keen on coming back soon as possible. Dont get me wrong i dont say they weren't injured i just question the time before returning on the tour

CJK
Jul 28th, 2004, 01:17 AM
Both Kim and justine are really not able to play so far. Both still really love the game and will try everything to be back as soon as possible, and with the williams break last year i'm not sure they were to keen on coming back soon as possible. Dont get me wrong i dont say they weren't injured i just question the time before returning on the tour
Yes, I do think she is capable of defending as well.
Strangely, she is not on the website for Seat Open (Luxemburg), let's hope she defends.

Hant Hant
Jul 28th, 2004, 01:22 AM
Kim needs to be healthy first and play in order to defend.

CJK
Jul 31st, 2004, 09:32 AM
Justine forfeits her title defense this week.

Vass22
Jul 31st, 2004, 10:12 AM
It's not that there's lack of effort, it's just that there can't be no effort. :rolleyes:

Truthwillout
Jul 31st, 2004, 02:27 PM
I think people have already realized this. The point I'm trying to get across to is that it's really been a wacky year where only a few have defended. I believe last year by now there were already close to 10 title defenses. But the injuries have been keeping some of the super stars last year to defend. It's really sad even though refreshing for the tennis scene.

NO BASHING INTENDED. Just trying to point out the interesting lack of defense in 2004.
So please do not misunderstand this thread, thx:).

Come on, CJK, you can't have it both ways. First you make a sensational thread headline which literally reads as an attempt to disparage the Belgians, then you back-pedal on it pretending there's no bashing intended. Learn how to phrase your statements appropriately if you don't want to sound dumb or be misunderstood. They've both been out of the tour for months so I don't see how the hell they could defend anything. End of the story (I hope)

hotandspicey
Jul 31st, 2004, 04:13 PM
Both Kim and justine are really not able to play so far. Both still really love the game and will try everything to be back as soon as possible, and with the williams break last year i'm not sure they were to keen on coming back soon as possible. Dont get me wrong i dont say they weren't injured i just question the time before returning on the tour Why don't u question the length of time that Kim and justine are taking to return to the tour? Stop the bs. You are implying that the sisters were not really injured.They took their time to heal, and the Belgians are doing the same.Give it a rest,already!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :smash:

johnboy4
Jul 31st, 2004, 04:22 PM
Amazing how injuries can be so significant on a player's career.
There has been 4 title defender this year.

Justine Henin-Hardenne: Dubai
Out of the 8 tournaments she won last year, she only defended 1, but that's the 2nd worst defending efforts this year.
titles to defend: Canadian Open, US Open, Zurich

Serena Williams: Miami
She has won owned Miami for the last 3 years. This is the tournament which is owned by the sisters with 6 of the last 7 years won by a Williams, a record of 21-0.
titles to defend: none


Lindsay Davenport: Tokyo
She has owned Tokyo title for the last 3 years and won 4 of the last 5 Tokyo titles. Martina won it 6 years ago and won again 2 years later. Lindsay also set a record losing 13 games only.
titles to defend: none

Fabiola Zuluaga: Bogota
She won Bogota for the 3rd straight years, tying her record with Lindsay and Serena.
titles to defend: none



And the 5th person I hope to see defend is
Kim Clijsters
titles to defend: Filderstadt, Luxemburg, YEC
She has defended at least once for the last 3 years, the most on tour.
2001: she defended Leipzig, her first Tier II or above title.
2002: she defended Luxemburg, the place where she won her first title in 99
2003: she defended 3 titles YEC, Filderstadt and Luxemburg.
(She owns Luxemburg, she was an Anna Kournikova away from winning it for 5 years.
But YEC and Filderstadt are 2 of the hardest tournaments to defend outside slams.)

In 2003 she led the tour by title defense with 3 title defense,
followed by Serena who defended 2 titles (Wimbledon and Miami).

But out of the 9 titles she won in 2003, she has defended none, and the only ones left are the 3 she defended last year. And YEC and Filderstadt will take a miracle to defend, so the best chance will come at Luxemburg where she can do a four-peat, let's hope she can do that, Farina-Elia failed it this year,
Just want to add that I thought Steffi was the one to do it four times, then I found out that the last person to do a 4-peat was Venus Williams beating Lindsay 3 times and Monica once in the New Haven



Myskina defended her title in Doha

CJK
Jul 31st, 2004, 04:35 PM
Come on, CJK, you can't have it both ways. First you make a sensational thread headline which literally reads as an attempt to disparage the Belgians, then you back-pedal on it pretending there's no bashing intended. Learn how to phrase your statements appropriately if you don't want to sound dumb or be misunderstood. They've both been out of the tour for months so I don't see how the hell they could defend anything. End of the story (I hope)
If I offended any Belgian fans, thenI apologize...that was not the point of the thread.
It is the lack of title defense, total of 17 tournaments won by Belgians, they only defended one tournament in total, it is quite amazing if you think about it. I dont mean they are incapable or anything, it's just kind of shocking.

xin_hui
Jul 31st, 2004, 05:22 PM
u cant defend when u are injured, period.

stop taking them as your targets:rolleyes:

CJK
Jul 31st, 2004, 05:25 PM
u cant defend when u are injured, period.

stop taking them as your targets:rolleyes:
er.....have you been reading my posts....I'M NOT BASHING.... :rolleyes:
lol, taking them as my targets, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT... :confused:

rjd1111
Jul 31st, 2004, 05:51 PM
It happened just last year with the Williams Sisters. They were
#1 & 2, Then Injuries and no defence of titles

hatethis
Aug 1st, 2004, 01:17 AM
i think this sucks, this is a really lame board.

CJK
Aug 1st, 2004, 11:49 PM
Unable to defend her title for the 6th time in New Haven due to injury, Kim will stay #5 in the world and but soon to fall further after US Open.
However, it is confirmed that she'll be defending Filderstadt, let's hope she does it.