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SharapovaFan16
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:29 AM
SHe isn't hitting anything clean, because she has become slower, and isn't positioning herself well to return the ball. Her opponents are then putting her into so many tough spots because she can't return it half the time. She complains and yells at herself, but in reality its her opponents who are putting her into those spots. Plus I'm tired of her bitching about how she commited suicide, or didn't play well and beat her self. Bull shit man! The opponent is beating her. Sharapova and Lindsey both slammed her, and beat her. Serena didn't beat her self. She gave some credit to Maria but none to Lindsey. Getting tired of this.

kosmikgroove
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:30 AM
ooh this one should get interesting realy quick like...

UDiTY
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:34 AM
She isn't hitting the ball well. And there are alot more semi-top players now then there were in '02.

But she is still playing and hitting a heck of alot worse than '02.

If she brings it back tho...her opponents' play won't mean jack.
:p

Mr_Molik
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:35 AM
Plus I'm tired of her bitching about how she commited suicide, or didn't play well and beat her self. Bull shit man! The opponent is beating her. Sharapova and Lindsey both slammed her, and beat her. Serena didn't beat her self. She gave some credit to Maria but none to Lindsey. Getting tired of this.

i agree :worship:
giving credit to ur opponent still means nothing when u say u played at 20% of ur normal level or u committed suicide :rolleyes:
learn how to lose graciously please serena, ur making a fool of urself

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:38 AM
Serena Not Hitting Anything Clean

When I first say this title I was all...:scared:

00seles04
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Ya I was going to bring the whole "I committed suicide out there" comment. I just think Serena just tries to avoid the fact that these players are just playing over her and she can't just handle being drubbed like that. Really a poor excuse. I guess if everyone expects you to be so great all the time and have the reputation for killing everyone on the court, it must be a hard pill to swallow that her pride keeps getting hurt by all these losses.

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Ya I was going to bring the whole "I committed suicide out there" comment. I just think Serena just tries to avoid the fact that these players are just playing over her and she can't just handle being drubbed like that. Really a poor excuse. I guess if everyone expects you to be so great all the time and have the reputation for killing everyone on the court, it must be a hard pill to swallow that her pride keeps getting hurt by all these losses.

All what losses? As I recall, she has made it to the finals of every tourney she played this year but what, 2? :rolleyes:

WtaTour4Ever
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:55 AM
I am a huge Serena fan but I have been wondering myself if she was slower or if maybe her movement isn't at the level it used to be. She always seems to be delayed in reacting to shots and sometimes seems as if she is falling all over the place, I'm not sure what it is exactly but she just doesn't seem as smooth as a whole as she was before,at least on a consistent basis. I wonder if it is lack of match play, a result of the knee surgery etc. Only time will tell but I'm sure she will be back soon.

tennisIlove09
Jul 27th, 2004, 03:57 AM
It's not WHO she's losing too (only questionable loss is to Petrova, IMO), it's HOW she's losing. 6-4 6-4 to Jennifer? 6-1 6-4 to Maria? 6-1 6-3 to Davenport? There's just no fight.

00seles04
Jul 27th, 2004, 04:02 AM
All what losses? As I recall, she has made it to the finals of every tourney she played this year but what, 2? :rolleyes:


Losses as in the French, Wimbledon, and last week. They don't count? Do they need to be 20 thousand something losses so that you can make a statement regarding her suicide comment? And well she might be consistent, but a loss is a loss, much as a win is a win. I'm not trying to downplay her results nor try to expose that she's not playing as well before her injury. Just remind yourself what the topic of the post, that's what I was referring to.


...Also, I've always wondered if people were going to bring up the differences in how Serena moves now compared to before her injury. She seems to be more reactive in the highlights have seen now. But I dunno, might have something to do with some of her losses.

Dan23
Jul 27th, 2004, 05:23 AM
SHe isn't hitting anything clean, because she has become slower, and isn't positioning herself well to return the ball. Her opponents are then putting her into so many tough spots because she can't return it half the time. She complains and yells at herself, but in reality its her opponents who are putting her into those spots. Plus I'm tired of her bitching about how she commited suicide, or didn't play well and beat her self. Bull shit man! The opponent is beating her. Sharapova and Lindsey both slammed her, and beat her. Serena didn't beat her self. She gave some credit to Maria but none to Lindsey. Getting tired of this.
i agree :worship:
giving credit to ur opponent still means nothing when u say u played at 20% of ur normal level or u committed suicide :rolleyes:
learn how to lose graciously please serena, ur making a fool of urself
Great posts :yeah:
Being fair to your opponent, win or lose, goes a long way towards gaining everyones respect.

Cheers,
ils

bandabou
Jul 27th, 2004, 10:08 AM
Please guys, please....I mean you think the 6-1 6-3 and 6-1 6-4 results against Maria and Lindsay had ONLY to do with the play of Lindsay and Maria and nothing Serena could do?!

I mean, this is SERENA we´re talking about. Sure, she can lose....but when she losses like this then I think it is fair to say that she played a bad match.

And why is it only Serena that gets all the loop?! You think she´s the only one who explains her losses?! Wait for the next time Maria loses...and go see her comments.

pigam
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:06 AM
the 'not clean hitting' has nothing to do with speed.
She's fast enough, maybe even too fast at times.
Footwork is not the same as 'speed'.
Footwork is being well placed and being light on your feet and moving forward while
hitting the ball.
Serena was too quick for some balls at times :eek:. She run into the ball and stuff.
She just needs to get her feet moving and control her nerves (I don't know why all of
a sudden they've popped up :shrug: ).
For me, the havy breathing and the heavy legs are signs of nerves... that's it,
she (of course) still has the strokes, although her 2nd serve was quite dissapointing.

Matt Clarke
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:08 AM
Stop blaming Serena, give credit where credit is due, and thats credit to Sharapova and Davenport.

Nobody's Perfecc
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:09 AM
It's not WHO she's losing too (only questionable loss is to Petrova, IMO), it's HOW she's losing. 6-4 6-4 to Jennifer? 6-1 6-4 to Maria? 6-1 6-3 to Davenport? There's just no fight.
Exactly.

Venus+Serena#1fan
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:09 AM
Serena IS NOT SLOWER.

Serena can run hard when its long distances in the court, she can take the big strides, the problem is, SHE IS NOT MOVING HER FEET, her footwork is completley terrible, she does not take little steps to get in position for her shots, therefore she never makes them and mishits.

bandabou
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:15 AM
the 'not clean hitting' has nothing to do with speed.
She's fast enough, maybe even too fast at times.
Footwork is not the same as 'speed'.
Footwork is being well placed and being light on your feet and moving forward while
hitting the ball.
Serena was too quick for some balls at times :eek:. She run into the ball and stuff.
She just needs to get her feet moving and control her nerves (I don't know why all of
a sudden they've popped up :shrug: ).
For me, the havy breathing and the heavy legs are signs of nerves... that's it,
she (of course) still has the strokes, although her 2nd serve was quite dissapointing.


That´s just it pigam. well said.

Foot_Fault
Jul 27th, 2004, 12:34 PM
SHe isn't hitting anything clean, because she has become slower, and isn't positioning herself well to return the ball. Her opponents are then putting her into so many tough spots because she can't return it half the time. She complains and yells at herself, but in reality its her opponents who are putting her into those spots. Plus I'm tired of her bitching about how she commited suicide, or didn't play well and beat her self. Bull shit man! The opponent is beating her. Sharapova and Lindsey both slammed her, and beat her. Serena didn't beat her self. She gave some credit to Maria but none to Lindsey. Getting tired of this.
Apperantly you didn't watch the match or at least the Trophy presentation.
When Serena took the Mic, she answered the question of the presenter, "No, I didn't play how I wanted to play, but All Credit due to Lindsay, she played an AWSOME Match." Then she went on to thank her dad and mom and sisters, and started saying something like..."Do You, OKAY!"(in a funny voice).

bandabou
Jul 27th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Apperantly you didn't watch the match or at least the Trophy presentation.
When Serena took the Mic, she answered the question of the presenter, "No, I didn't play how I wanted to play, but All Credit due to Lindsay, she played an AWSOME Match." Then she went on to thank her dad and mom and sisters, and started saying something like..."Do You, OKAY!"(in a funny voice).


Tjaaaa......