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Venus Forever
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:53 AM
1- Venus Williams (USA) - bye
WC- Angela Haynes (USA) vs. Lindsay Lee-Waters (USA)
Alina Jidkova (RUS) vs. Arantxa Parra Santonja (ESP)
Q- Jamea Jackson (USA) vs. 5- Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi (ISR)

3- Patty Schnyder (SUI) - bye
Nicole Pratt (AUS) vs. Jelena Jankovic (SCG)
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS) vs. Marion Bartoli (FRA)
WC- Amber Liu (USA) vs. 6- Amy Frazier (USA)

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8- Maria Vento-Kabchi (VEN) vs. Eleni Daniilidou (GRE)
Iveta Benesova (CZE) vs. Anca Barna (GER)
Q- Ashley Harkleroad (USA) vs. Jelena Kostanic (CRO)
4- Francesca Schiavone (ITA) - bye

7- Meghann Shaughnessy (USA) vs. Q- Marissa Irvin (USA)
Lubomira Kurhajcova (SVK) vs. Claudine Schaul (LUX)
Petra Mandula (HUN) vs. Q- Lioudmila Skavronskaia (RUS)
2- Lindsay Davenport (USA) - bye

Venus Forever
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:54 AM
I don't know what the T.B.D. is all about, and whether it is just a lucky loser or something, and I don't get why this is out, but not the qualifying draw.

AjdeNate!
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:22 AM
Good luck:

Jelena Jankovic
Marion Bartoli
Jelena Kostanic
Petra Mandula

Rita
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:36 AM
Good luck:

Alina Jidkova
Marion Bartoli
Maria Vento Kabchi
Petra Mandula

Tratree
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:46 AM
That is one sad Tier II draw.

AjdeNate!
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:47 AM
That is one sad Tier II draw.
You ain't kiddin'!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martian KC
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:59 AM
Good luck to:

Alina Jidkova (RUS)
Arantxa Parra Santonja (ESP)
3- Patty Schnyder (SUI)
Jelena Jankovic (SCG)
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS)
Eleni Daniilidou (GRE)
Iveta Benesova (CZE)
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)
Claudine Schaul (LUX)
Petra Mandula (HUN)
and Lindsay Davenport (USA)!!!!

WtaTour4Ever
Jul 10th, 2004, 04:02 AM
It really is, Vee had better win this.

Jericho
Jul 10th, 2004, 04:10 AM
Good luck to Venus and Eleni!

LindsayRocks89
Jul 10th, 2004, 04:52 AM
good luck to Venus and Lindsay :bounce:

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 10th, 2004, 05:00 AM
TBD stands for That Bitch Denika

Jakeev
Jul 10th, 2004, 05:48 AM
Will NCAA champ Amber Liu get a wild card? Perhaps Lauren Kalavaria or even Raquel Kops Jones? (even though she played for Berkeley)

ghosts
Jul 10th, 2004, 05:48 AM
Good luck to

Marion Bartoli (FRA)
Petra Mandula (HUN)
1- Venus Williams (USA)
Iveta Benesova (CZE)

bis2806
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:00 AM
TBD means wild card, btw today i talked with meilen tu and anne kremer's coach and he was really nice... he showed me the qualifying draw and the qualifiers have to play 2 rounds before entering the main draw, so you can work out that there's 16 players in the qualifying draw... i saw alex today and she was hitting the shots really hard and well, but some of them were out by a few inches off the baseline... i saw ashley too, she was playing great tennis, she practised with eleni who made more errors than she did, other players that i saw were jamia jackson and probably shennay perry? (she was tall and she mistook her for venus at first)... i saw meilen practise against kremer and meilen was playing better... it seems like all the players are pretty much ready... i got meilen and ashley's autographs today :)

bis2806
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:01 AM
btw i saw amber liu gets one of the two wildcards in the main draw, i forgot who got the other one though...

LiliaLee-Frazier
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:15 AM
I don't know what the T.B.D. is all about, and whether it is just a lucky loser or something, and I don't get why this is out, but not the qualifying draw.

Its for Qualifiers ..GOOD LUCK AMY, Missy irvin AND MEGHANN!! Oh and also Lindsay Lee :D :bounce:

LiliaLee-Frazier
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:16 AM
btw i saw amber liu gets one of the two wildcards in the main draw, i forgot who got the other one though...
I would think it would be Lindsay Lee since she is ranked 98 or so. :D

LucasArg
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:21 AM
GO VENUS!!! :wavey: :bounce: :wavey:

njguido11
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:35 AM
I would think it would be Lindsay Lee since she is ranked 98 or so. :D

wrong lindsay lee is already in the draw and amber got one of the tbd slots so that leaves one more wild card. Amber just got killed in the 1st round of college park hopefully she gets her ncaa form back

LiliaLee-Frazier
Jul 10th, 2004, 06:38 AM
wrong lindsay lee is already in the draw and amber got one of the tbd slots so that leaves one more wild card. Amber just got killed in the 1st round of college park hopefully she gets her ncaa form back
Lindsay Lees ranking is way too low to get in on ranking. So either she is a wild card or she won an ITF that landed her a wc...either way its a fuckin wc.. :lol:
:wavey: Gnight and good luck to my girls..i am off to college park this morning to see ROSSANA NEFFA de los rios with my booisss... :kiss: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

bis2806
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:12 AM
any of you should feel free to ask me anything i saw today at practice :) i'm going tomorrow for the qualies too so it should get more exciting!

Daniel
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Go Likhotseva, :D
surprised she is playnig here when she is right now in Argentina

Lee-Waters' Boy
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:56 AM
Lindsay Lees ranking is way too low to get in on ranking. So either she is a wild card or she won an ITF that landed her a wc...either way its a fuckin wc.. :lol:
:wavey: Gnight and good luck to my girls..i am off to college park this morning to see ROSSANA NEFFA de los rios with my booisss... :kiss: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
bartoli is in
the only player on the next in list between bartoli and lee-waters was groenfeld...so its entirely likely she is in without a wc

wilson-dunlop
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:56 AM
If Venus doesn't win :o

rhz
Jul 10th, 2004, 09:28 AM
This is one of the weakest field for tier 2 ever!! I see Venus vs Lindsay final!

©@®eLess
Jul 10th, 2004, 09:37 AM
Jankovic again in the part of the draw with Patty. This girl is so unlucky it's getting on my nerves really

LefandePatty
Jul 10th, 2004, 09:58 AM
Good luck to Patty Schnyder!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

*Jean*
Jul 10th, 2004, 10:07 AM
Humm...what a...beautiful draw :devil:
Humm...there'll be certainely a Venus/Davenport final...but I hope my dear Meghann and Lubomira will show what they can do ! :lick:

TheBoiledEgg
Jul 10th, 2004, 10:18 AM
good luck to
Alina Jidkova :hearts:
Elena Likhovtseva :)
Petra Mandula ;)
Claudine Schaul :)
Iveta Benesova ;)

jimbo mack
Jul 10th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Go Likhotseva, :D
surprised she is playnig here when she is right now in Argentina

likhovtseva has had some success here in the past, so maybe she enjoys playing here

she reached the quarter-finals here in 1997 and 1998 :)

LefandePatty
Jul 10th, 2004, 10:42 AM
Is there a live scores on the official site of this tournament?

Jorn
Jul 10th, 2004, 11:49 AM
Good Luck Marion and Eleni!! :)

Elisse
Jul 10th, 2004, 12:11 PM
Good Luck Eleni!!! :bounce:

Mathijs
Jul 10th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Best of luck to:

Alina :worship:

Iveta :inlove: :hearts:

Jelena K. :hearts:

Petra :kiss:

Jan
Jul 10th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Go Lindsay - YOU can WIN here
NO DOUBT about that :)

esquímaux
Jul 10th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Pratt :hearts:
Frannie: :nerner:
&
Meggy: :yeah:

Joana
Jul 10th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Jelena J. has a nice draw and can reach QF at least (of course, Patty always has to play well against my faves :mad: )

Lindsay!!!! :bounce:

Mr_Molik
Jul 10th, 2004, 01:30 PM
omg look at the americans draws(apart from venus and lindsay who have byes):

Lee-Waters- WC
Frazier- WC
Shaughnessy- Qualifier

coincidence?? :rolleyes:

Meteor Shower
Jul 10th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Go Smshnova
suprise venus in the quarter :)

St.Sebastian
Jul 10th, 2004, 01:50 PM
When will Venus' special seedings end :rolleyes:
in 2010?? :retard:

azza
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:13 PM
Nicole Pratt :hearts:

Tennisfan-Mtl
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:23 PM
Good luck to :

Patty Schnyder ;)
Amy Frazier :hearts:
Alina Jidkova
Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi
Elena Likhovtseva ;)
Iveta Benesova :hearts: :hearts:

:)

Experimentee
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Good luck:

Venus Williams
Lindsay Lee-Waters (USA)
Nicole Pratt
Elena Likhovtseva
Amy Frazier
Iveta Benesova
Claudine Schaul
Petra Mandula

GoDominique
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Come on Anca, reach the semis here ;) :o

anabel
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:53 PM
Vamos arancha!! :D

VeNuS#1LoVa
Jul 10th, 2004, 02:55 PM
GOOD LUCK:

VENUS WILLIAMS! :banana:
Parra! :kiss:
Jankovic ;)
Frazier! :cool:
Benesova!:worship:
Kostanic! :p
Shaughnessy! :hearts:
Davenport :D

cadiac
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:12 PM
:confused: Where's Tammy ? :(

*Jean*
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:35 PM
Shaughnessy! :hearts:


Alleluia !! I'm not alone !! I love Meghannnnnnnnn ! I have a video interview if you want, dear :angel:

Lindsayfan
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:44 PM
goooo Lindsay!!!!!!!! :bounce:

LefandePatty
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Good luck to :

Patty Schnyder ;)
Amy Frazier :hearts:
Alina Jidkova
Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi
Elena Likhovtseva ;)
Iveta Benesova :hearts: :hearts:

:)

Do you like Patty Schnyder too???
:lick: :lick: :lick: :lick: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

foreva lindsay
Jul 10th, 2004, 03:54 PM
good ok great draw for lindsay... please use it unlike last few tournies :tape:

GOOOOOOOOOOOO LINDSAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

njguido11
Jul 10th, 2004, 04:01 PM
omg look at the americans draws(apart from venus and lindsay who have byes):

Lee-Waters- WC
Frazier- WC
Shaughnessy- Qualifier

coincidence?? :rolleyes:

considering the wc will be american would be pretty stupid to draw all ur americans against each other in the 1st round, think about it.

GABRIEL
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Francesca MUST reach at least the SF here, or else.....:mad:

Venus Forever
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Wildcards added. :)

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jul 10th, 2004, 07:52 PM
this is a very weak draw

Nastyafan
Jul 10th, 2004, 08:32 PM
the weakest tier 2 ever
and it seems Venus will have SS for life

Warrior
Jul 10th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Good luck Amber Liu, Claudine Schaul

Darop.
Jul 10th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Wow. Maria Vento Kabchi number 8 seed. 1841635375 byes.

What a tournament.

Nikki
Jul 10th, 2004, 09:29 PM
Go Lindsay:bounce:

Lapin
Jul 11th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Good luck to Eleni and Francesca!! :D

QUEENLINDSAY
Jul 11th, 2004, 06:20 AM
Pathetic WTA Ruling!!!!! Venus special seeding is until when?????? She doesn't even live up to her seeding!!!!!

imogen
Jul 11th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Go Smashi!! Take the title!!!

TartarVicario
Jul 11th, 2004, 01:38 PM
WC- Amber Liu (USA) :eek: :hearts: :kiss:

Your draw is not bad.Good luck girl :yeah:

MLF
Jul 11th, 2004, 03:09 PM
Pathetic WTA Ruling!!!!! Venus special seeding is until when?????? She doesn't even live up to her seeding!!!!!
She is the second highest ranked player here so it doen't really matter - no one is affected by her being in the top 2 seeds. Venus has won 20 of her last 22 matches so I'd say she's doing pretty good.

Good luck here to :

Venus Williams
Lindsay Lee Waters
Amy Frazier
Anna Pistolesi
Lubomira Kurhajcova

Jan
Jul 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM
GOOD LUCK LINDSAY
GO GO GO TO THIS TITLE

I believe this may be the last of Venus's special seedings.

TatiAnnahølic
Jul 11th, 2004, 06:37 PM
good luck Arancha, Meghann, Petra, Jelena and Marion! :)

Smart
Jul 11th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Good luck Marion!!

Leo_DFP
Jul 11th, 2004, 07:56 PM
When will Venus' special seedings end :rolleyes:
in 2010?? :retard:
Seriously. I thought there were actual rules and limitations about special seedings. There's no reason for the Williams sisters to be treated differently from the rest of the tour.

I fear that the same shit will happen at he US Open and Davenport will be stuck with the #5 seed AGAIN, when she should be #3 or higher.

New_balls_please
Jul 11th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Go Arantza! :kiss:

Venus Forever
Jul 11th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Seriously. I thought there were actual rules and limitations about special seedings. There's no reason for the Williams sisters to be treated differently from the rest of the tour.

I fear that the same shit will happen at he US Open and Davenport will be stuck with the #5 seed AGAIN, when she should be #3 or higher.
They're not treated any differently. They are getting 8 tournaments with this special seed, outside the GS's, just like Davenport.

Venus' tournaments with the special seed:
1. Tokyo
2. Dubai
3. Miami
4. Charleston
5. Warsaw
6. Stanford

She has two more left after this tournament.

Scotso
Jul 11th, 2004, 11:39 PM
good luck:

Lindsay Lee-Waters
Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi
Nicole Pratt
Elena Likhovtseva
Amy Frazier
Maria Vento-Kabchi
Iveta Benesova :hearts:

Venus Forever
Jul 12th, 2004, 01:13 AM
Qualifiers added.