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Sidney1984
Jul 6th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Its seems like a bit of a joke. With Clijsters at no 2 without ever winning a grand slam it seems a bit unfair. Its also strange that Serena Williams dropped 4 places after reaching the Final.

PointBlank
Jul 6th, 2004, 09:51 PM
WEll ... its no joke at all ... Kim has reached 5 finals without winning one and won HUGE tournaments even though she has not won a slam ... Maria has only won 4 tourneys(1 ebing a slam) so its good she is ranked this high even .. and Serena droped because she won last year but didnt defend

houseoflords
Jul 6th, 2004, 10:38 PM
Serena dropped 4 places because she didn't defend her points. She was the champion last year and the runner-up this year. That is a big difference in the WTA rankings system. Maria is 8 and that is very good considering she really only started playing pro tournaments last year. She has risen in the rankings at a pretty good rate

nkhera2
Jul 7th, 2004, 01:55 AM
wait why did she lose points for not defending

houseoflords
Jul 7th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Last year Serena won the WImbledon title. She got the max amount of points for that tournament. To not drop in the rankings, Serena had to win. The result is worse than the one last year so her points gained doesnt equal what she had last year.

nkhera2
Jul 8th, 2004, 01:28 AM
Last year Serena won the WImbledon title. She got the max amount of points for that tournament. To not drop in the rankings, Serena had to win. The result is worse than the one last year so her points gained doesnt equal what she had last year.

ok i got it

houseoflords
Jul 8th, 2004, 03:38 AM
its not an easy system to follow. it's all about points and defending points.

Futballer
Jul 8th, 2004, 05:21 AM
It'a pretty hard to follow....

Sidney1984
Jul 8th, 2004, 08:37 AM
Stupid rankings procedure though. I mean if someone wins 4 grand slams in one year and wins 3 the following year, they drop down the rankings. It seems very unfair.

Sidney1984
Jul 8th, 2004, 09:59 AM
Can someone tell me why Henin and Clijsters haven't dropped points in the rankings? They didn't even compete in Winbledon, surely that should count as getting knocked out in the 1st round.

Edward.
Jul 8th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Its all about maintaining success. If the system judges that your standards are dropping, the ranking will reflect this. Incidentally, even if you do not defend a grand slam title, it does not necessarily mean the ranking will drop- Justine Henin Hardenne failed to reclaim her French Open crown this year and she is still number 1. This is because she had an enormous amount of points, garnered from several grand slam titles and Tier I titles. Serena did not have nearly as many points, due to a lengthy injury throughout the second half of last year and the start of this year. Wimbledon was the last grand slam she won, and her failure to reclaim her title saw her ranking drop, because she lost out on points.

Fostin
Jul 8th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Yes she should be at 5 at least :rolleyes:

Edward.
Jul 8th, 2004, 02:51 PM
As long as Maria has a great hardcourt season, her ranking should continue to improve, because she didn't do too well on hardcourts last year, thus she does not have many points to defend.

houseoflords
Jul 8th, 2004, 05:21 PM
they do drop points. you dont necessarily drop in the rankings if you drop points. it depends on how those chasing you do as well as how big of a points lead you had. clijsters most likely isnt playing the us open either so she shouldl drop significantly after that. henin-hardine is coming back so she has a ch ance to defend her point.

altemix
Jul 9th, 2004, 10:11 PM
WTA points system is really complicated. Henin not defending her last year's French Open title still is No 1, but Serena no matter if she would won Wimbledon dropped by 2 positions in the rankings. Therefore this system is very extraordinary. I think that Henin will drop in the rankings after US Open if she maybe not win it. :( But we will see how this system works then:)