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LindsayRulez
Jul 1st, 2004, 04:58 PM
Sure, we're all sad, disappointed, crushed, disheartened, etc. that Lindsay lost. But you have to see that Maria played great tennis and was better today. You simply cannot base your support for Lindsay on one match, win or lose. Because if you do, then that shows you were never a fan in the first place. Now maybe it's just "the heat of the moment" thing, but some people here are putting way too much blame on Lindsay.

This same thing happened after she lost at the Australian Open; if you don't understand now that Lindsay is going to win some and she is going to lose some, then you shouldn't be following her in the first place. By saying things like "fuck Lindsay, go retire and reproduce somewhere" you are showing how immature you are and how fake you are. You can't be a fan of Lindsay just if she wins and hate her when she loses. That's like Mary Pierce being French if she wins and American if she loses; IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.

I love Lindsay and I'll continue to support her in every match she plays. If she loses all of them and retires soon, then so be it. What she has given us for the last 12 years is worth far more.

Andrew.
Jul 1st, 2004, 05:02 PM
I'm not saying I don't support her anymore. I'm saying she played like an absolute retard during many parts of the second and third set, and that's why she lost the match. And losing this match doesn't do wondors for her career. This will probably just force her into retirement. Fact is that this was her best chance at reaching another GS final. She blew it. End.

LindsayRulez
Jul 1st, 2004, 05:06 PM
I distinctly remember reading "Fuck Lindsay. Fuck tennis. Done." If that's supporting Lindsay, then that she is news to me. Of course this was a good chance for her to win another slam during her last year, but Maria played too well, is that too hard to understand?

Andrew.
Jul 1st, 2004, 05:10 PM
I distinctly remember reading "Fuck Lindsay. Fuck tennis. Done." If that's supporting Lindsay, then that she is news to me. Of course this was a good chance for her to win another slam during her last year, but Maria played too well, is that too hard to understand?
Lindsay had a serious choke job. She stopped moving and caring. Is that too hard to understand?

Maajken
Jul 1st, 2004, 05:41 PM
so what? who are we to diss her like that? it's her life, it's her game, it's up to her how she goes about things, she doesn't owe us anything you know. no one's forcing you to be a fan of hers. it's great if you support her, it's fine if you don't, but if you do then you have to stick with it all the time. not just when she's winning.
who cares if she never wins a grand slam anymore? she was never supposed to be any good at tennis anyway and she's won 3 of them, add an olympic gold medal to that and another 40 titles and then dare to say "fuck lindsay" again. anyone who's throwing insults at her after a loss doesn't deserve to be a fan of hers.

shirley
Jul 1st, 2004, 05:49 PM
It was tough for me today but I'm still a fan

LindsayRocks89
Jul 1st, 2004, 07:14 PM
Sure, we're all sad, disappointed, crushed, disheartened, etc. that Lindsay lost. But you have to see that Maria played great tennis and was better today. You simply cannot base your support for Lindsay on one match, win or lose. Because if you do, then that shows you were never a fan in the first place. Now maybe it's just "the heat of the moment" thing, but some people here are putting way too much blame on Lindsay.

This same thing happened after she lost at the Australian Open; if you don't understand now that Lindsay is going to win some and she is going to lose some, then you shouldn't be following her in the first place. By saying things like "fuck Lindsay, go retire and reproduce somewhere" you are showing how immature you are and how fake you are. You can't be a fan of Lindsay just if she wins and hate her when she loses. That's like Mary Pierce being French if she wins and American if she loses; IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.


I love Lindsay and I'll continue to support her in every match she plays. If she loses all of them and retires soon, then so be it. What she has given us for the last 12 years is worth far more.

yep, great post, its too bad Lindsay lost, but Maria was the better player today, and if you're really a fan of Lindsay then you will support her no matter what.

threelions
Jul 1st, 2004, 07:51 PM
Yeh, I'm gutted too. I have not seen the match yet but I have read a lot of the reports and comments on various sites. Most of it is uncomplimentary although much of it praises Maria Sharapova's fighting spirit ( congratulations to Maria ). The bottom line is Lindsay has blown a great chance of winning a career crowning Grand Slam. But guess what, she's done that many times before, that's whats she is best at, finding new ways to lose from winning positions! If I am honest, I know Lindsay is not hyper competitive. She will always be vulnerable to a player who wants to win more than her and let's face it that's most of them. I support her because I like and respect her as a person and she will be a person a lot longer than she will be a tennis player. On the betting sites the view before the match was Lindsay had to win it in 2 sets or be beaten in 3. Everyone knows her reputation. As for still being a fan, again what's the problem, this morning the forum was discussing the possibility/probability of Lindsay being Wimbledon champ and world no 1. What a difference one match makes. She gave an interview to the BBC before her doubles game and said this is "probably her last Wimbledon". I know everyone is disappointed ( I lost £300 on the match ) but we all know what she is like to support and no way should we say we will only support you when you are winning. In what is probably now her final year, lets all stick together and see it out together, Lindsay deserves that. The world will still be there in the morning, I promise.

RayRob
Jul 1st, 2004, 08:33 PM
You know, I haven't read the post (by Andrew) that you are referring to but I have to say that I am disapointed at any Lindsay 'fan' who would say such negative things!

Yeah, I was absolutely gutted to say the least, but you know all credit to Sharapova who found a way to beat a great champion. Maria said it several times; "I can't believe I beat such a champion!" While watching the match, even though I was dissapointed with the way Lindsay's service persentage dropped and I was extremely nervous, I still found it in me to marvel at a lot of the shots Maria was coming up with! Let's face it, there were many 'corkers'!

It was a great match! The result (for us and Lindsay) wasn't good, but a win well deserved by Maria Sharapova, who proved that she IS serious about tennis - and that is what Womens tennis needs right now!

I have been a fan of Lindsay's since about 1994 (when I first saw her on TV at Wimbledon) but more 'strickly' since the 1996 Olympics, and I am sure as heck not going to let one defeat stop me from supporting her! It doesn't work like that - we're not 'glory hunters' we're fans! (Well, at least I know I am).

I had the priverlage of seeing Lindsay play in doubles courtside, last year at Wimbledon and that is a day I will never forget! I didn't meet her, but seeing her play 'live' was enough to satisfy me as a fan.

Lindsay has done a lot for Womens tennis, she turned her career around even when people were against her and were, let's face it, vile to her (especially about her weight). I admire the fact that she never let it all get the better of her, although she was close to that but Mary Joe Fernandez persuaded her not too - and boy am I glad of Mary at that time!

I would be gutted if Lindsay retired at the end of this year and not return to Wimbledon next year, but she has a new life and new priorities - so all the best to her in that. I know what it is like stuck doing something that no longer interests you and if Lindsay doesn't want to play tennis after this year, then so be it!

God bless Lindsay and God bless her future family...........thanks for the memories......

gossipcom
Jul 1st, 2004, 10:06 PM
Bottom line is today Linday played awesome tennis until that rain delay at 2-1 second set - afterwards Sharapova stepped up a gear and was the better player in the end.

RayRob I couldn't have summed it up better.

Remember folks she's still in the mixed doubles (SF stage)

foreva lindsay
Jul 1st, 2004, 10:10 PM
we may not have to support her much longer :crying2:

"I'd be surprised if I was back," Lindsay Davenport said in that
matter-of-fact sort of way that she has. She had just been beaten –
and well beaten – 2-6, 7-6 (7-5), 6-1 by Maria Sharapova. And, at the
age of 28 and with three Grand Slam titles already in the bank, she
thought that enough was enough.

Her career has been long, it has been extremely successful and, for
the most part, it has been happy. But after 14 years on the road, the
appeal is not what it was. Last year she became Mrs Jon Leach and now
she rather fancies the thought of spending more time at home and
perhaps starting a family.

"I just feel like I've had an amazing career and a very long one" she
said. "I just don't feel the same excitement sometimes before
matches. The wins don't get me as excited anymore. On the flip side,
the losses don't hurt as much. It's just different now."

That is not to say that Davenport did not care whether she won or
lost her semi-final encounter with Russia's latest starlet. It was
just that to lose a good match to an excellent young player was not
such a bad way to say goodbye to the All England Club. And, for the
record, yes the loss did hurt.

"Of course it does," she said with a smile. "But I feel like she
totally deserved it and totally played her way to win the match. I
had control of the match and she took it from me. And when I started
to have a chance here or there, she always came up with great shots."

The match had turned on two rain delays. The first flummoxed
Sharapova and after it Davenport was completely in charge, and the
second gave the Russian a moment to breathe and regroup and from then
on – 2-1 in the second set – Davenport was in trouble.

"When we came back from the rain delay at 2-1," Davenport
explained, "I felt like from then on she definitely stepped up her
game and was more in control of the match than I was in charge of the
tempo of the rallies. She started to serve a lot better and
unfortunately I started to serve a lot worse. It's a tough loss to
take but I felt that I lost to someone who rose to the challenge
today."

That was the nuts and bolts of the match wrapped up and then it was
time to think of saying goodbye. She plans, and hopes, to play
through to the end of the year but she will see how she feels once
the US Open is over.

"I've had great memories out there," she said. "Winning, playing
Steffi in the final in '99, that has to be the highlight. For
whatever reason, I never felt nervous, never got broken, just played
a great match. To beat her, of all players, in the finals was pretty
remarkable.

"This is a tournament where I struggled for a few years, wasn't
really sure of the grass and really grew to love and enjoy playing
here, much more so than a lot of the other Grand Slams. But I just
can't see myself back here in 12 months' time."

this is truely heart breaking stuff... i'm just speechless.. i'm gonna miss her so much its untrue :crying2:

LindsayRocks89
Jul 2nd, 2004, 02:19 AM
i'm gonna miss you Lindsay, you have had a great career, and i wish you the best with your future :bounce:

joaco
Jul 2nd, 2004, 02:53 AM
I know this is not the end of the world.... but it's a very dissapointing result indeed. I watched the match tapes, and when I saw it went to the third set I just knew Lindsay would lose. She did not want the match, she did not have that fire inside of her. And that is what really makes me sad about it. It is OK. if the other player is better, I'll admitt it, Maria played some extraordinary tennis in the second set, specially in the big points, but Lindsay just didn't seem to fight in the third.
I feel this is such a wasted opportunity. What makes me the most sad about it, is that I only started being a fan of Lindsay's since 2000. From the Oz Open 2000, where I wasn't really a fan of Lindsay, but cheered in the final against Martina. Then I got to know Lindsay and fell i love with her, but was only able to see her 2 GS losses in the final against Venus. I've been waiting for 4 years, to see her reach a GS final again. I wanted it really bad, and it was a big let down for me personally.
The fact that I'm not going through the best time in my life does not make it any way easier. That win would have brought a great joy in my life right now.... but that did not happen. I feel that it's like I get too excited for Lindsay and then she sort of lets me (us fans) down, mainly in GS. I'm not denying her comebacks from injuries were absolutely amazing, or that she has had the best possible carreer you could have asked of her, but I was really hopeful that she could get to the Wimbledon final once more.
And also the fact that she's talking more seriously about retirement.... too many things going on right now. I'm not sure I'm able to handle them the right way right now. I feel sad cause I don't know if i'll ever meet her, which is one of my dreams and that really gets me down.
I'm sorry if i said i didn't believe in her chances anymore is just that it is big letdown. By no means does this mean i will stop cheering her, is just that it's hard to accept the fact i will have to let go. I've always been happy just to see Lindsay on court healthy, but this loss just brought up too many emotions in me.

Joaco:sad:

foreva lindsay
Jul 2nd, 2004, 07:35 AM
I've always been happy just to see Lindsay on court healthy, but this loss just brought up too many emotions in me

i think we all feel the same, thats twice i have cried now...and i feel there's more tears to come but at the moment we should be happy...ish, because she is still playing and nothing is confirmed YET...
i'll probably be in tears again later so this is no good coming from me :rolleyes:

Kelly
Jul 2nd, 2004, 10:39 AM
first of all...it makes me proud to read post from her true fans who are gonna stick by her.

lindsay played great...maria played better when it matter

i wont deny it at the end i was inconsolabale...i mean i havent cried that hard since my grandad died....a bit of a strange comparison i know but im still upset now. i caught a few of the highlights this morning and that set me off again....then listening to her going on about retiring made me choke up again...lol....what can i say im emotional!

at the end i wasnt disapointed, i wasnt sad, i certanly wasnt happy the only emotion i felt was emptyness....my mum came home in the afternoon and said 'oh..i take it your sulking cos she lost then.....jesus its only a tennis match'.....i was thinking....no it was a wimbledon semi final...her LAST wimbledon!!!!

just like lindsay we'll get over it and hope her and jon have lots of kids....and if they ever play tennis then they will have the best fans in the world with us guys!!!
i love lindsay for eternity and i wish her success in everything she does in life

thanks for the memories!!

shirley
Jul 2nd, 2004, 05:18 PM
I cried too :sad: Hope she has lots of kids

threelions
Jul 2nd, 2004, 06:56 PM
Everyone, let's loosen up, most of us seem more upset than Lindsay. If she retires today, next week, year end or plays on next year then she has had a fabulous career doing somthing she loves. Similar to lots of sports people although the ability is still there perhaps the hunger has lessened and that is crucial in close matches. She is married, healthy, wealthy and looking better than ever. She obviously wants to start a family sooner rather than later, her future looks bright.
At the moment she seems torn between those classic women dilemma's career/husband/children. No one gets it all, no one. It's her decision. She has to do what will make her and her husband happy. We will always be able to see her over the years in those terrible parades of ex champions because that's what she is a champion.

toobaxx
Jul 2nd, 2004, 09:00 PM
well I'd rather see lindasy retire today and lead a happy life with lots of mini-lindsays than see her go on forever and loose in 1st and 2nd rounds like a miss Navratilova....

Nikki
Jul 2nd, 2004, 09:57 PM
Although she is likely to retire at the end of the year, there is a small chance that she mya chose to carry on next year. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season.

Whatever her decision she will have done herself justice in the sport.

RayRob
Jul 2nd, 2004, 10:26 PM
I agree with toobaxx in saying that I'd rather see Lindsay retire now and lead a happy life and with Nikki in the fact that there is an ever so small chance that she will come back.......after all, I distinctly remember Lindsay saying the same things in her interview last year ie. that she probably wouldn't be back at Wimbledon (this year) - she was so upset by her foot injury at the time. Maybe it's a spur of the moment thing she said again.....or maybe she is just more sure now than ever.

Who knows? I guess we'll just have to see and wait in anticipation!

:bounce: Go Lindsay!

Rock on! :music: :rocker2:

Jan
Jul 4th, 2004, 07:42 PM
I agree wit Rache and Nikki (and most of the others too). I was so so disappointed she lost to Maria, but hey its not the end of the world. As Boris Becker one said "Its only a tennis match, nobody died out there"! and Maria did take Serena apart, so it wasn't too bad that she lost to the eventual champion!!

I also think that she might not retire at the end of the year. Things had been said before. But if she does lets wish her well with the rest of her life.


Also I am not happy with the F word in our threads. We don't usually have degrading things said in Lindsay threads. We have been a Forum for over 4 years now with Great and Good threads for Lindsay, don't lets lower our sights now so near to the end of a career for such a lovely person.

THANKS :worship:


I agree with toobaxx in saying that I'd rather see Lindsay retire now and lead a happy life and with Nikki in the fact that there is an ever so small chance that she will come back.......after all, I distinctly remember Lindsay saying the same things in her interview last year ie. that she probably wouldn't be back at Wimbledon (this year) - she was so upset by her foot injury at the time. Maybe it's a spur of the moment thing she said again.....or maybe she is just more sure now than ever.

Who knows? I guess we'll just have to see and wait in anticipation!

:bounce: Go Lindsay!

Rock on! :music: :rocker2: