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Celeste
Jun 17th, 2004, 01:48 AM
I had a ten-year friend die a few months ago from an accidental overdose of Oxycontin. I had heard this was a new pain killer, but I never thought much about it. I was hoping he died from something else, but it was Oxycontin. He was a normal guy with a wife and children (no, not a client, just a friend, though I would have fucked him if he wanted, he was cute). I'm not looking for sympathy, when you croak, you croak. But I've read all this stuff about it on the Internet, it seems like a dangerous drug. He had back problems and got it legally. About 3 days before he died, he told me he thought he had an addiction to Oxycontin and said he'd been on it for years, and I sort of blew it off, like, just stop taking it and forgot about it. I'm not a drug taker, so I really didn't take it too seriously, and he was sort of a flake anyway.

Does anyone here have any experience or know about this drug?

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 01:51 AM
yeah oxycontin is a narcotic pain killer...so once a person uses it for a long time...he'll get addicted and it'll be hard for him to stop.

Sorry about your friend :sad:

Celeste
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:07 AM
Why is it on the market, then? He got it legally, that's what I cannot understand. Maybe the pain is that bad. Is this really an epidemic drug?

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:11 AM
Actually, Oxycontin is available through prescription....

Did he get it elsewhere legally?

cynicole
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:12 AM
It's that addictive. That's why you have people breaking into drug stores to steal the stuff.

A lot of painkillers are addictive in general. Aren't a lot of them in the same drug category as heroin?

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:16 AM
What happened to him was drug abuse...

Oxycontin should really be used under a doctor's supervision..because of the ingredients in the drug...and should be obtained only thru a doctor's prescription...

However, this drug does treat pain....much like tylenol and advil...but on a much stronger level (mainly for people who suffers from severe chronic pain)....there are people out there that are addicted to tylenol and tylenol-type pain relievers

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:18 AM
It's that addictive. That's why you have people breaking into drug stores to steal the stuff.

A lot of painkillers are addictive in general. Aren't a lot of them in the same drug category as heroin?

A lot of painkillers are in the category of narcotic anagelsic (spelling?)...which is very addictive or can cause people to be physically dependent on it once it has been used for a long period of time

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Why is it on the market, then? He got it legally, that's what I cannot understand. Maybe the pain is that bad. Is this really an epidemic drug?
usually doctors are very reluctant to prescribe it regardless of age . strange he was given it just for back problems . were the problems that serious? oxycontin is too strong for just back problems . its often given to cancer patients that are on the edge of death . burn victims . people in terrible accidents . etc

... but not just for back problems

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:22 AM
I feel sorry for your friends family, that drug is bad. I was addicted to it, and got sent to rehab over it. I will be honest and say this, if I still had some oxy around me, I'd be back on it. Two weeks ago yesterday I done a 40mg pill of it, and I'm still suffering from withdrawl due to it. It's a dangerous drug. Usually it's only given to cancer patients, and people who are dying or near death.
Do you know how your friend used it? See they have a coating on them that is time release and it's meant to be taken orally, however a lot of people that abuse it just scratch the coating off to either pop it, crush and short it, or shoot it. I've always crushed and snorted it, althou I've shot up with it a few times as well. I can tell you that the first times you use it you will get sick and throw up. It's like a form of legal heroin. In fact it contains many of the same chemical properties as heroin. Usually to get off of it they give you methadone. Locally the rise of Oxy has died out, but there is a rise in methadone due to it. I know someone that died a few weeks ago from over dosing on methadose patches. I've done this stuff before, but I've never ODed. I'm still battling with trying to quit. My girlfriend is in rehab right now due to the oxys we done 2 weeks ago. She battles with it more than I do. If there is anything you need to know, don't hesitate to ask me.

The pills usually come in 40 and 80 mg althou I've heard there are 120's out there. Locally the last time I bought a 40, which was 2 weeks ago, I paid $65 for one pill! It's expensive and it destroys a lot of lives. Unfortunately those of us that don't need it are getting our hands on it, and the drug company to begin with just marketed it as a new pain killer, not as the pain killer for cancer patients which it actually is.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:24 AM
Actually Oxy is a drug you can get addicted to after just using it ONCE. That's how it happened with me, I got addicted to it after just once, and I still battle with it. Of course I got into using about 3 80mg tablets a day at my height of abuse too. It wasted my money and my life, and now I've gotten my soulmate away from me in rehab and she's never allowed to talk to me or anything again because they think we get each other into drugs. :(

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:26 AM
Actually Oxy is a drug you can get addicted to after just using it ONCE. That's how it happened with me, I got addicted to it after just once, and I still battle with it. Of course I got into using about 3 80mg tablets a day at my height of abuse too. It wasted my money and my life, and now I've gotten my soulmate away from me in rehab and she's never allowed to talk to me or anything again because they think we get each other into drugs. :(

holy macaroni! :eek: 3 80mg? sheesh...

I'm sorry about what's going on with u and your mate Bacardi :sad:

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:27 AM
A lot of painkillers are addictive in general. Aren't a lot of them in the same drug category as heroin?
yes . all from the opium poppy

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:30 AM
Is it the same thing as a painkiller named Oxycodon that I used few times? I remember it didn't really work for me at all.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:30 AM
Yeah, the problem with the drug is this. The more you use it, the more you need to keep getting that nice high nodding off feeling. The scary part is, that after so long you can OD on it just to try to reach your normal high level. Every time you use this drug, it builds up a level in your system where the next time you have to do a little more and a little more.

Oddly enough 2 weeks ago the 40 gave me a buzz much like what the 3 80s a day used to. It also made me puke my guts out for the 2 days afterwards because my system was going thru withdrawls again. From what I understand anytime you have an addiction to this sort of stuff, no matter how long you are clean, you are never over it. That chemical make up stays in your system for the rest of your life. I hadn't done any oxy's for 2 years, then 2 weeks ago I done that 40. And to this very day I'm still feeling the effects.

As for my friend, I'm not sure she's over her addiction at all. The last time I talked to her via phone on Saturday she asked me would I come visit her and sneak her an OC (short for oxy) in. :sad:

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:31 AM
I feel sorry for your friends family, that drug is bad. I was addicted to it, and got sent to rehab over it. I will be honest and say this, if I still had some oxy around me, I'd be back on it. Two weeks ago yesterday I done a 40mg pill of it, and I'm still suffering from withdrawl due to it. It's a dangerous drug. Usually it's only given to cancer patients, and people who are dying or near death.
Do you know how your friend used it? See they have a coating on them that is time release and it's meant to be taken orally, however a lot of people that abuse it just scratch the coating off to either pop it, crush and short it, or shoot it. I've always crushed and snorted it, althou I've shot up with it a few times as well. I can tell you that the first times you use it you will get sick and throw up. It's like a form of legal heroin. In fact it contains many of the same chemical properties as heroin. Usually to get off of it they give you methadone. Locally the rise of Oxy has died out, but there is a rise in methadone due to it. I know someone that died a few weeks ago from over dosing on methadose patches. I've done this stuff before, but I've never ODed. I'm still battling with trying to quit. My girlfriend is in rehab right now due to the oxys we done 2 weeks ago. She battles with it more than I do. If there is anything you need to know, don't hesitate to ask me.

The pills usually come in 40 and 80 mg althou I've heard there are 120's out there. Locally the last time I bought a 40, which was 2 weeks ago, I paid $65 for one pill! It's expensive and it destroys a lot of lives. Unfortunately those of us that don't need it are getting our hands on it, and the drug company to begin with just marketed it as a new pain killer, not as the pain killer for cancer patients which it actually is.
not 120's but 160's

my grandfather was given a 160 every six hours

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Is it the same thing as a painkiller named Oxycodon that I used few times? I remember it didn't really work for me at all.
oxycontin is just the name brand . oxycodone is in oxycontin, percocet, etc . so you were prolly given a low dosage if the name wasnt oxycontin

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:34 AM
Is it the same thing as a painkiller named Oxycodon that I used few times? I remember it didn't really work for me at all.

It's a stronger degree of oxycodon. Oxycodon is what's found in such brandname RX painkillers such as percocet and loritab (to name the 2 most popular) the main difference being the strongest Oxycodon dose in those pills is 10mg, and they also contain 325 mg's of the a word (i dunno how to spell it) that's in tylenol. The difference between Oxycontin and oxycodon is the fact that the 10mg + 325mg of tylenol really isn't that much. Oxycontin contains in the smallest dose 40 mgs of oxycodon, and no tylenol. It's also lethal on your stomach, thanks to my days with it, I have ulcers.

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:36 AM
oxycontin is just the name brand . oxycodone is in oxycontin, percocet, etc . so you were prolly given a low dosage if the name wasnt oxycontin
What I remember was that it didn't really help. I had a toothache, and it didn't really work. Maybe the pain was not as acute with it, but when it hurts for a long, you might not feel the difference, and I didn't feel it definitely. I though am very resistant to any kind of drugs.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:38 AM
ys, I bet you wouldn't be resistant to Oxycontin. The first time you do that, you're sent into another world, believe me. Usually you can tell someone's on it at first because they nod and by looking in their eyes. Then you just get even better at hiding your abuse and the only real way to tell is a drug test.

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:40 AM
Bacardi? Did you ever crush the pills or did you always take it whole? :confused:

peachfuzz
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:40 AM
ah nevermind...i missed one of your posts :p

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:43 AM
ys, I bet you wouldn't be resistant to Oxycontin. The first time you do that, you're sent into another world, believe me. Usually you can tell someone's on it at first because they nod and by looking in their eyes. Then you just get even better at hiding your abuse and the only real way to tell is a drug test.
You know, difficult to say. I tried real drugs only once in my life. Like 8 years ago one of my friends wanted to show me the nightlife of Johannesbourg,South Africa, and so before going we smoked marijuana, then had a couple of pills of Ecstasy each, and that was covered all that with plenty of alcohol - and that did me nothing, nothing at all. Since then I am very sceptical to any drugs, I think for me it is just a waste of a product that could be used by someone else. I never had any drugs harder than alcohol since then. Painkillers don't really work for me too.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:47 AM
Bacardi? Did you ever crush the pills or did you always take it whole? :confused:

I had a pill crusher that I kept in my purse and my friend and I would drive to a backroad and crush 2 (one each) in the crusher and divide them up into 2 lines. Either we'd do it on the side of the road, at her house when her family was gone or at some of our friends homes who done the same stuff. We'd crush them, make a powder line and snort them.
On the very last I got to the point where I was shooting up with them. All because a friend of our's came back from living in NY and he would shoot up all the time. He said it was the best way to get high. I had a fear of needles but gave in to peer pressure (I was a dumbass). I kept it hid from everyone but 1 month ago, I was shooting up with cocaine on a regular basis and doing more percocets than one should ever do. Then 2 weeks ago came the oxy that made me sick again and I've avoided that crowd ever since. Of course that night my soulmate got drug tested by her family and she got sent back to rehab the next day. I feel a little guilty because I think I belong in there too. :(

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:51 AM
i didnt like oxycontin when i tried it . i dont understand the fascination with it . why not do heroin instead?

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:53 AM
Heroin is actually better and cheaper, if you get it the right place. I think more people do oxy's because at this time in most area's it's easier to find than heroin. Plus you also dunno always what the heroin has been cut with so in most cases oxy's just safer.

I unfortunately got addicted to the shit, and am still getting over it. Now I can't even go out with my normal group of friends every weekend, I'm stuck home. I wouldn't advise anyone to do it. But then again, when people said that to me I had to learn the hard way, so to each his own I guess.

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 02:58 AM
better? in what way?

ive done both drugs enough . never became addicted to either

but i dont think the reason people decide to use oxycontin over heroin is cos its safer . i think its more of a trend and more socially acceptable

around here, heroin is much easier to find than oxycontin . but i live in a very populated area . so maybe thats why

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:04 AM
Better in that it's cheaper to get the same feeling. Like I said, I paid $65 for a 40 mg oc just 2 weeks ago. I could have gotten quite a bit of heroin for that much money.

Here finding anything like heroin or coke is hard to do. I liked my coke about a month ago but driving about an hour or two to find it and making calls everywhere wore me down. It's just easier to find people willing to sell off their pain pills around here than it is risking getting busted by the cops trying to buy something like coke or heroin. Pot thou, that's easy to find here. It's all in where you live I suppose, there's a book written partly by a girl I knew in high school who was younger than me, it's about Lee County the area I live in. You can read the first chapter here if you want (I believe this county/area was the first one to really feel the oxy craze): http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNN/DailyNews/painkiller031021.html

Kart
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:09 AM
Oxycontin is a slow release morphine preparation.

Like all the opioids it's pretty easy to get addicted to.

Kart
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:12 AM
I should add I've not seen it prescribed for back problems, only cancer patients and those kinds of pain.

That said, back pain is the one of the most common complaints at any doctor's surgery I believe and it can be pretty crippling ... still I'd never go so far as to prescribe it to just anybody.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:14 AM
Kart here when it first came out before the doctors knew how addictive and strong it was they gave it to my uncle for his shoulder pain. So some doctors who don't know a lot about it might think it's just slightly stronger than percocet.

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:19 AM
I should add I've not seen it prescribed for back problems, only cancer patients and those kinds of pain.

That said, back pain is the one of the most common complaints at any doctor's surgery I believe and it can be pretty crippling ... still I'd never go so far as to prescribe it to just anybody.
thats exactly what i was saying . it must have been pretty severe back pain

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:23 AM
It must have been after back surgery actually, because I don't see them just handing that stuff out unless it's after surgery. Certainly not here recently after the fact that it's been in the news as the most addictive pain killer out there.

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:24 AM
Better in that it's cheaper to get the same feeling. Like I said, I paid $65 for a 40 mg oc just 2 weeks ago. I could have gotten quite a bit of heroin for that much money.

Here finding anything like heroin or coke is hard to do. I liked my coke about a month ago but driving about an hour or two to find it and making calls everywhere wore me down. It's just easier to find people willing to sell off their pain pills around here than it is risking getting busted by the cops trying to buy something like coke or heroin. Pot thou, that's easy to find here. It's all in where you live I suppose, there's a book written partly by a girl I knew in high school who was younger than me, it's about Lee County the area I live in. You can read the first chapter here if you want (I believe this county/area was the first one to really feel the oxy craze): http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNN/DailyNews/painkiller031021.html
65 is a lot . i was given an 80 for free cos my cousin's boyfriend used to work in a pharmacy and stole them all the time . i snorted it [i used to snort anything i could . im shocked my nose is still in perfect condition] . he used to shoot it up . he sold 80's for $50 in philly ...

i live in a county that is almost all elderly people . and even still . it is SO much easier to find heroin and coke than it is oxycontin . doctors around here are very reluctant to prescribe any painkillers whatsoever . my friend who is a recovering heroin addict recently had her wisdom teeth pulled [all 4] . they wouldnt give her any painkillers cos they knew she had a heroin problem . thats rough

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:25 AM
I wonder what milligram he was taking? I think they have 20's and 60's now as well, I just usually got the 40's and 80's.
It's a good thing there isn't a doctor around here like that one, because knowing my ass I'd be going trying to get it for my tmj, since it's classified as cronic pain.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:28 AM
He got anymore 80s he'd sell for $50? I could drive up there and buy those bring them back here and get, no kidding $100 each! I've never sold drugs thou, I always bought them and done them.
As for the snorting issue I know what you mean. That's mostly what I done, until the needle using a month ago. My nose isn't in great shape, I had some like blister or something come on the inside part of it right before I quit.

decemberlove
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:36 AM
He got anymore 80s he'd sell for $50? I could drive up there and buy those bring them back here and get, no kidding $100 each! I've never sold drugs thou, I always bought them and done them.
As for the snorting issue I know what you mean. That's mostly what I done, until the needle using a month ago. My nose isn't in great shape, I had some like blister or something come on the inside part of it right before I quit.
they caught him and he got into trouble for it . this was about two years ago . april of 2002 i believe . lost his job and his scholarship

needle thing is terrible to hear . i hope you can stay focused and away from the drugs :kiss:

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:48 AM
The needle thing is scary after I found out BL was sharing witht he dude from NY and then sharing with me. Plus I've heard from everyone if anyone in the area ever ends up with AIDS or HIV it will be her. Now I'm scared to go even get tested. It's the most retarded thing I ever done. :smash:

I'm staying clean, I'm just staying home. :lol:

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:51 AM
I'm staying clean, I'm just staying home. :lol:
Good girl..:)

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 03:53 AM
Yeah but the crappy part is BL is out for about 2 days around the end of this month due to Bday time. I want to go see her so bad, I'm just scared what the two of us get into. Having her away from me is probably worse than having the drugs away from me, I've had worse BL withdrawls than drug ones.

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:01 AM
What's scary is there's a rap song about Oxycontin. :eek:

Oxy Cotton by Lil Wyte

Go on and slip me two Xanax Bars - I'm ready to git fool
5th to Crown to wash it down, I'm downtown snapping rolls
Ain't no shame up in my game - in fact I'm mentally deranged
Oxycontin in my system - man I'm feeling kinda strange
Watch me choke about this dope - Blueberry from Texas
She wanna git up in rotation that's too bad cause I'm stressing
'Bout now its 1:30 am - 11 Percocets just entered me
15 minutes from this second - I'll be crawling on my knees
Laughing at the crowd of all the clowns that be surrounding me
Take another Lortab to call me down and let me see
Body be relaxed - muscles be loose, and you have stopped the pain
No more bitching 'bout your day and work and driving in the rain
Put up wit' the fussing and discussion - I plant in your brain
Hypnotize ya minds, like all the rest but I come through the veins
Take a chill pill to slow me down and git back in this game
Gatta be up on ya P's and Q's to even feel it mane

[Hook 2x - Lil' Wyte]
Oxycontin - Xanax Bars - Percocet and Lortab
Valiums - Morphine - patches - Exctacy - and it's all up for grab
What'cha want - what'cha need - hit me up I got you mane
What'cha want - what'cha need - hit me up I got you mane

[Lord Infamous]
Scarecrow, scarecrow whats that you popping?
A powerful pill they call Oxycontin
But it'so tiny, that it catch you dragging
Haven't you heard big things come in small packages
I prefer the orange's with the black O-C
Take to where you can - I move about you see
Some people mellow down in a needle and shoot 'em up
Buy I pop 'em with Seroquel like glue, I am stuck

[Crunchy Blac]
See I'ma pill popper - so I'ma keep poppin' em
Gimme 20 Xanax and I'ma start droppin' em
They ain't no stoppin' him - when they in my system
Mane I really miss 'em - can you help me get 'em
I heard you have Clidina, on that fucking pill shed
Gimme some fuckn Ec' - gimme some Percocets
I need me some four bar, so I can break down
Cause a nigga like me 'finna take it to funky town

[Hook 2x - Lil' Wyte]
Oxycontin - Xanax Bars - Percocet and Lortab
Valiums - Morphine - patches - Ecstacy - and it's all up for grab
What'cha want - what'cha need - hit me up I got you mane
What'cha want - what'cha need - hit me up I got you mane

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:02 AM
Is it rap?

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:04 AM
Yep it's rap.

ys
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:06 AM
then it is not really a song.. ;)

Bacardi
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:07 AM
:lol:

Funny thing is me and BL hate rap, yet they made a song about our drug before rock did. :haha:

Rtael
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:13 AM
Hmm....a couple people at my school got suspended/expelled for bringing/using oxycontin to/at school. ';'

njguido11
Jun 17th, 2004, 04:48 AM
My roomate junior yr of college died from an oxycotin od. suxs supposedly is real bad problem in the whole pittsburgh -wv- ohio areas of the country. prescription drugs in my experience are the most addictive. oxys-percs and xanex to name a few

Celeste
Jun 17th, 2004, 11:52 AM
Wow, it sounds pretty bad. All I know is that his back problems were really bad and he was suffering with it for almost 20 years, he had a bad accident in high school. His legs were on fire a lot from the back issue, that is all I know. He had a prescription from a doctor. I don't know how much he was taking as far as mg's. I think he was just taking it orally, I never saw any needle marks. There was also Xanax in his system in the autopsy. I took Xanax a few times for long plane rides, I did not think it was addictive or mind-altering at all, it really didn't do much for me. Why would you need Xanax if you are in OxyContin? I guess he had a problem, but he acted so normal (well, normal for him), that is why I kind of didn't take it seriously when he told me he was addicted.