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Warrior
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:37 PM
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By Kurt Nimmo


So desperate are Bush Republicans to kill Michael Moore's latest film, Fahrenheit 9/11, they have hired a public relations firm to set up a web site attacking Moore. The site, MoveAmericaForward.com, claims to be "non-partisan," but a glance at the "About" page of the site reveals the director and staff of Move America Forward are all diehard Republicans, anti-tax activists, and former legislative staffers. The PR firm is Russo Marsh & Rogers.

Russo Marsh & Rogers is a GOP consultation firm. In 2002, Ron Rogers teamed up with Reagan heavyweight Lyn Nofziger and Ed Rollins to work on the gubernatorial campaign of Bill Simon (see Campaign movements -- People & Organizations (http://articles.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2519/is_7_23/ai_90702298).)

Thanks to the detective work of WhatReallyHappened.com (http://whatreallyhappened.com/), it was revealed that Move America Forward's web site was registered in the name of Russo Marsh & Rogers. In other words, Move America Forward is about as partisan as it gets without putting the GOP seal of approval on the web site. In short, Move America Forward's campaign is a Republican dirty trick designed to smear Moore and pressure move theater owners not to run his film.

"Time is short," the Move America Forward (http://www.moveamericaforward.org/newsmax/) web site declares, "we must act now to have our voices heard in time to make a difference. Help us get messages from millions of Americans sent to these film industry executives."

Certainly, time is short for the Republicans -- millions of Americans are about to learn how George Bush had a business relationship with the Bin Laden family -- and they will learn it right before the election. Russo and the "non-partisan" Republicans want to make sure you never see Moore's film. They don't want you to know the truth about Bush and his buddy-buddy dealings with the Saudis.

Incidentally, after a WHOIS check -- WHOIS is a searchable database maintained by registries and registrars that contains information about domain name registrations on the internet -- was run on MoveAmericaForward.com and it was discovered that the site was registered in the name of Russo Marsh & Rogers. Soon after this information was posted on the web, the registrant name was modified to omit Russo Marsh & Rogers.

Not only do the Republicans not want you to go see Moore's film, they also don't want you to know they are behind the campaign to smear Moore and pressure theater owners into not running the film. It's just like the Republicans to do this sort of thing behind your back. Of course, it is rather lazy and stupid of the Republicans to not think about WHOIS. But then nearly everything about the Republicans lately -- from the lies behind the invasion of Iraq to clumsily attempting to cover up the TortureGate scandal -- has been lazy and stupid. Don't be fooled. The Bush Republicans are behind this now transparent effort to silence Michael Moore. If you care about the First Amendment and don't like the idea of Republicans dictating to theaters what movies you can see, write Russo Marsh & Rogers and tell them what you think. The contact person is Douglas Lorenz and his email address is: dlorenz@rmrwest.com (dlorenz@rmrwest.com). If you live in Sacramento, you may want to drop by the Russo Marsh & Rogers offices and ask why they want to censor movies: 770 L Street, #950, Sacramento, CA 95814

-Ph51-
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Why am i not surprised :confused:

Helen Lawson
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Sorry, Michael Moore is making up all this and distorting the truth to get the film more publicity. Everyone in Hollywood knows this. The minor distribution problems it faced pale by comparison to other so-called "documentaries" and for not a moment was this film in danger of not being released in a timely manner. Now more people than before will flock to see it thinking it has some fantastic content.

"Sluggy"
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Interesting Article Warrior - Thanks.

Mercury Rising
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Ofcourse they are...

Infiniti2001
Jun 14th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Hopefully it will all backfire :rolleyes:

harloo
Jun 14th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Sorry, Michael Moore is making up all this and distorting the truth to get the film more publicity. Everyone in Hollywood knows this. The minor distribution problems it faced pale by comparison to other so-called "documentaries" and for not a moment was this film in danger of not being released in a timely manner. Now more people than before will flock to see it thinking it has some fantastic content.
If he is distorting the truth then why is their a movement to stop the showing of the film by Bush and his cronies?

I have always thought Moore was a whacko, and I did not see Bowling For Columbine. However if the President and his staff need to start a campaign to censor his movies, it must have some truth too it.

I think I will see Farenheit 9/11 now just to what the hoopla is all about.;)

Helen Lawson
Jun 14th, 2004, 05:51 PM
There are probably GOP efforts to correct materials he has falsely stated and/or not told the full story on, like he did in Bowling for Columbine and there are efforts on-line and otherwise to get the corrections. I am sure the Bush family has done loads of business with the bin Laden family. What Moore will fail to say, likely, based on past things he's done, is that anyone who has done any business in Saudi Arabia has done business with bin Laden's family. It is one of the largest most powerful families over there. Moore has a talent for half-truths and distortion. Maybe Moore has really damning evidence, but I doubt it.
The film is not going to change anyone's mind. People who like Moore and believe everything he says already hate Bush anyway. People who do not like Moore will not vote against Bush for anything Moore says. This is a hysteria publicity stunt to boost up people seeing it. No one ever accused Moore of being stupid.

Pureracket
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Helen,
I would not have thought that the defense of right-wing fascists would bring a tone of seriousness to your posts.

Helen Lawson
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:06 PM
Thanks, I take that as a compliment! I hate Moore more than I hate Bush, fair and simple. Moore is so clearly manipulating the public about the so-called "ban attempt" by the government just to get publicity for his movie.

Moore was mean to my poor Charleton Heston, so I bear a grudge. ;)

Pureracket
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Moore was mean to my poor Charleton Heston, so I bear a grudge. ;)That's the Helen Lawson that we love.:)

Helen Lawson
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Charleton is a little thick between the ears (always was, dear, this is not due to age) but someone has to look out after the old coot these days.

Bacardi
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:30 PM
I hope it ends up being shown in it's full form here in the US. I think it would be good for people to see something about the truth of the Bush administration. I cannot for one stand Bush and his army of Republican idiots, and I even am a bit more on the Repub side of things but even I won't vote for Bush Jr again. That man has done nothing but nose dived this country into the ground since taking over, jobs are lost, being sent over seas, people are getting killed and gas prices rise.... If we don't get him out of office, I'm afraid to see what that bastard does with 4 more years. He'll do enough to get me to move over seas myself!

njguido11
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:45 PM
every report ive read has said the economy is on the rise and the job market is getting better but all must be lies. Completely agree with helen lawson (crazy to be sayin that) but this film isnt gonna change anyones opinions of bush. MIchael mOore is a hypocrite and is out to make MONEY and twist the truth.

Bacardi
Jun 14th, 2004, 06:53 PM
The economy isn't better, and how the Bush admin gets away with those lies is beyond me. First of all, the local big time business around here Eastman Chemical, has been laying people off since Bushs' second year in office. They lay them off, and have not hired them back every couple of months. Secondly he cut a tax break to businesses taking their job search out of the US, how the hell does he think this helps us? Oh by giving the businesses more money? Well Bushy, if the workers here are unemployed and not getting money, they aren't going to spend to help the economy. He's done everything ass backwards he can to drive this country straight down the toilet. I admit I voted for the man, but the hell if I'll ever vote for that piece of shit again! NO BUSH IN '05!!!

Helen Lawson
Jun 14th, 2004, 07:00 PM
Bush is like L.B. Mayer of MGM. He is out to screw you and line his own pockets. He never pretends otherwise. People like this are easier to deal with, in Hollywood and in real life.

Moore is like Jack Warner of Warner Bros. He pretends he just wants to make quality productions and give the public good entertainment, but he is just as greedy and unscrupulous as Mayer. He uses the "I want quality" to gyp you on your salary. He is the one getting rich. Mayer just comes right out and gives you a number. Warner spins all this bullshit and lies. I would rather have someone screw me over to my face than play games about it.

Warrior
Jun 15th, 2004, 08:25 PM
New objections to 'Fahrenheit 9/11'
Group asks public to call executives at theaters where film critical of White House will be shown.
June 15, 2004: 9:53 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Amid Disney's previous objections, Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" is scheduled for release next week, but the movie that criticizes the Bush administration's policies in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks faces another challenge.

A conservative organization called Move America Forward, formed in May to rally support for U.S. troops and the war on terror, has asked the public to call and e-mail executives at theater chains scheduled to show the film, according to Variety.com.

"Michael Moore has the right to free speech," said MAF Chairman Howard Kaloogian, according to Variety. "But so do millions of Americans who find his anti-military propaganda and attacks on our troops offensive."

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Despite the calls to pull the film, any attention "Fahrenheit 9/11" receives is likely to boost its already high profile. The film won the top prize at the Cannes Film Festival this spring.

"One of the most important lessons everyone can take from 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' whether they support the war in Iraq, oppose the war or are undecided, is that we need less censorship in this country, not more," said Tom Ortenberg, president of Lions Gate Releasing, which is distributing the film, according to Variety.

Previously, the movie was scheduled to be released by Disney's Miramax unit, but the entertainment conglomerate balked at the release amid the film's critical content.

The movie will now be released though Lions Gate, IFC Films and the Fellowship Adventure Group, which is run by Miramax founders Bob and Harvey Weinstein. http://i.cnn.net/money/images/bug.gif (http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/15/news/newsmakers/moore_maf/#TOP)

Wigglytuff
Jun 15th, 2004, 08:41 PM
Sorry, Michael Moore is making up all this and distorting the truth to get the film more publicity. Everyone in Hollywood knows this. The minor distribution problems it faced pale by comparison to other so-called "documentaries" and for not a moment was this film in danger of not being released in a timely manner. Now more people than before will flock to see it thinking it has some fantastic content.


and you know this because ???? .....

not only that. SO FUCKING WHAT even if everything moore has to say s 100% not true, it should be shown. 1st amendment is there for a reason.

i am not surprised at the effort to silence this movie.

Helen Lawson
Jun 15th, 2004, 08:48 PM
I am Hollywood royalty, I know it all in the entertainment field. Plus, I did not just fall off the turnip truck.

There may be an effort to silence the film but I would not call it a "republican effort" to silence the film. A write-in effort is pretty lame. Those never work. Moore is trying to fabricate some large conspiracy against the thing to get free publicity.

njguido11
Jun 15th, 2004, 09:08 PM
The economy isn't better, and how the Bush admin gets away with those lies is beyond me. First of all, the local big time business around here Eastman Chemical, has been laying people off since Bushs' second year in office. They lay them off, and have not hired them back every couple of months. Secondly he cut a tax break to businesses taking their job search out of the US, how the hell does he think this helps us? Oh by giving the businesses more money? Well Bushy, if the workers here are unemployed and not getting money, they aren't going to spend to help the economy. He's done everything ass backwards he can to drive this country straight down the toilet. I admit I voted for the man, but the hell if I'll ever vote for that piece of shit again! NO BUSH IN '05!!!



Heres more evidence on yahoo today. Of course this would never be posted in these parts but im sure this report is all a lie coming from republicans.


NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. companies are gearing up to create jobs at rates not seen since the height of the 1990s boom, a survey released on Tuesday showed, adding to evidence that job growth will keep the U.S. economic recovery rolling.

Related Links
Employment Outlook Survey [PDF] (Manpower)



Following two months of strong government payroll reports, the survey is a boon to President Bush (news - web sites) in the run-up to elections and will likely confirm expectations that the Federal Reserve (news - web sites) will raise U.S. interest rates at the end of June as it moves to beat off emerging inflation.


Thirty percent of polled U.S. employers plan to add to their payrolls in the July to September period, the survey by Manpower Inc. showed. That is up from 20 percent a year earlier and 28 percent in the April to June period.


The survey hit its highest level of 35 percent in 2000, powered by the Internet-fueled boom.


Far fewer companies now plan to lay off employees, the survey showed, making the net year-over-year increase in employers planning to create jobs the largest in the history of the Manpower survey, which was started in 1976.


The survey, by the world No. 2 staffing company, polls 16,000 U.S. employers and is adjusted for seasonal spikes and dips. It is monitored by many economists for indications on corporate hiring sentiment.


"It is at levels that were in place pre-recession," Manpower Chief Executive Jeffrey Joerres said in a telephone interview. "As more stability is occurring in demand, they (companies) look at their future saying, 'I am feeling good.' They have gotten off the fence to start hiring."


The survey comes as job-growth begins to catch up with U.S. economic expansion, scotching talk of a 'jobless recovery' and bolstering Bush's claims that his policies create jobs, a key election battleground.


U.S. employers added a larger-than-expected 248,000 jobs in May, according to the Labor Department (news - web sites), following 346,000 in April and 353,000 in March. The 947,000 jobs created in the March-May period make it the strongest three-month stretch in four years.


The solid rate of job creation also makes it more likely that the Fed's policy-makers will ratchet up U.S. interest rates from current 1958 lows when they meet June 29-30.


The quick change in employers' outlooks comes as demand surges for products and services.


The percentage of companies that do not foresee changes in their workforce fell to 59 percent from 65 percent a year earlier and 62 percent in the second quarter. The percentage of employers intending to shrink their workforce fell to 6 percent from 9 percent in the year-earlier quarter, unchanged from the second quarter.


"If you look at the overall atmosphere, we still have geopolitical issues, we have an election year," Joerres said. "But companies are looking at their own business and saying, 'even with the noise I have to do something to expand my business."'

cynicole
Jun 16th, 2004, 12:07 AM
While I think it is unfair to censor Moore's film, I also think it is unfair for Moore's films to be labeled as "documentaries."

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Sorry, Michael Moore is making up all this and distorting the truth to get the film more publicity. Everyone in Hollywood knows this. The minor distribution problems it faced pale by comparison to other so-called "documentaries" and for not a moment was this film in danger of not being released in a timely manner. Now more people than before will flock to see it thinking it has some fantastic content.
It won the Palme'dor in Cannes. I would think it's serious and truthful.

Bacardi
Jun 16th, 2004, 12:48 AM
What they don't tell you about the Economy rising is this, in the past 3 years more people have lost their jobs than those that have gained them back since the economy got better in the past 10 months. Also the jobs the people are getting back do not pay as much as the jobs they lost in the first 3 years Bush was in office.

As a representative for Kerry said, "You can get D's for 3 years and one semester of B's doesn't put you on the honors list". Bush has just maniupliated the situation to his benefit. He's timed his economy getting better just like he's timing the gas prices starting to slowly lower to benefit him this ELECTION YEAR.

The man has allowed tax cuts to companies that offer jobs over seas, jobs in places like Turkey and the such where $200 a month is a nice wage. What company isn't going to move their operations over seas when you can pay 7 people to work for what you pay one American to work? Bush is full of shit, he's tearing this country apart piece by piece. I voted for that fucker the first time around, but hell will freeze over and I'd rather vote for a Communist if that was the only other choice on the ticket! If he gets in another 4 years we can look forward to such lovely things as: Gas prices probably hitting near $3 a gallon, the Military Draft, Health Care programs being cut, help for people like older citizens who paid their taxes being cut, and Drug Companies controlling the outrageous prices we pay for our medicine. Anyone that votes for George W Bush for a second term, should be labeled Anti-American!

Bacardi
Jun 16th, 2004, 12:50 AM
I saw parts of film on Inside Edition earlier today, I liked the part of him hanging around Congress asking them to sign a petition trying to get the Congress' sons/daughters to sign up for military service in Iraq! He knows it won't ever happen, the sad part about our Government is it's just a new form of a Mafia.

njguido11
Jun 16th, 2004, 02:46 AM
It won the Palme'dor in Cannes. I would think it's serious and truthful.

And who votes their bro. The liberals of Hollywood give me a break

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2004, 03:03 AM
And who votes their bro. The liberals of Hollywood give me a break
Why does it also come back to that word? :confused: I don't care if they're liberals or whores, they make good points, and that's what I care about. So does Michael Moore.

lakeway11
Jun 16th, 2004, 12:55 PM
The man has allowed tax cuts to companies that offer jobs over seas, jobs in places like Turkey and the such where $200 a month is a nice wage. What company isn't going to move their operations over seas when you can pay 7 people to work for what you pay one American to work?

sounds like you should have voted for my man Pat Buchanan :lol:

anyways fellow Skull & Bones Kerry will be no better if not worse...it seems to me the American people lately got the leaders they deserved b/c none care about true liberty and morality anymore