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crazillo
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:36 PM
It reminds me of the championsleague final between Bayern Munich and manchester. Everything changed in like three minutes. :eek:

daniela86
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:41 PM
Well done France :aparty: They are very lucky!!! :)
Btw, I live in Paris and it is always the same : I can't watch the TV for 3 days after a french win, because all my tv series are cancelled because of reporting about the footballers :mad: and they non stop speak about it

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:42 PM
And if GB was a team, it would be all English players anyway ;)

And take Markus Merk back to Germany and lock him away

Absolute bollocks of a ref, Silvestre should have walked, simple

Yet again, a tournament will be won off the pitch

France will win it, i tell you now, and not through football

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:43 PM
France are one man - Zidane. Without him, they are average, like World Cup 2002 showed.

Central
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Shocking :eek:
England deserved to win, but they didn't, that's it :shrug:

Kuti Kis&Monica
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahh Well Done France ;) :) :) :)

Geri
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Yet again, a tournament will be won off the pitch

France will win it, i tell you now, and not through football

:haha:

Zizou :worship:

If England had 2 shot/chances on goal. Lampard and the penalty. Apart from that nothing.

Megli
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:46 PM
France :worship:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Shocking :eek:
England deserved to win, but they didn't, that's it :shrug:
Cos the French are cheats...................we'll hear in 20 years they paid the ref........Silvestre the dirty git should have walked, no question.

Will cheer on EVERYONE against the French now, bunch of wimps, everytime they got tackled they got funny.

Thuram is officially a ponce

ghosts
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:48 PM
ENGLAND :rolleyes:

Ting
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:49 PM
France played way better I think. Oh well. England was just unlucky. Congrats France! But GOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENGLAND:banana:

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:49 PM
bitter much?

I'm English, but that was sheer comedy in its predictability.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:49 PM
:haha:

Zizou :worship:

If England had 2 shot/chances on goal. Lampard and the penalty. Apart from that nothing.
Apart from the Freekick and penalty, France had nothing, Henry was SHIT, Trezeguet was SHIT, Zidane was SHIT until final 2 kicks

Hope England riot tonight, i really do

Bring it home lads! Do some damage :yeah:

beauty_is_pink
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
what a turnaround match!

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Hope England riot tonight, i really do

Bring it home lads! Do some damage :yeah:
You see, people like you are exactly the reason why I dont even cheer on my own team.

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Err, don't you have anything better to do than hoping people will riot?

Geri
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Hope England riot tonight, i really do

Bring it home lads! Do some damage :yeah:

Sad thing is you are serious. Maybe they will kill someone like the Leeds fans did in Turkey.

crazillo
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:52 PM
France was better IMO.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:52 PM
:yawn:

English are such bad losers. And lose they did. Where was Michael Owen in the time he was on? I thought he was 'world class'.
Ledley King is our 6th choice CB at best, where was Henry? Marked out by King, who is nothing special

Mercury Rising
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Cos the French are cheats...................we'll hear in 20 years they paid the ref........Silvestre the dirty git should have walked, no question.

Will cheer on EVERYONE against the French now, bunch of wimps, everytime they got tackled they got funny.

Thuram is officially a ponceBecause Beckham can't put a penalty in, and Zidane can...

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:53 PM
You see, people like you are exactly the reason why I dont even cheer on my own team.
You don't cheer on your own team

Fucking traitor!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:54 PM
P.S, David, I think rioting is going a bit far... ;)
Possibly, but i mean just smash a few tables, not hurt anyone.........but people don't think of finding out ;) :p

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:54 PM
You don't cheer on your own team

Fucking traitor!
Just to rub it in, it feels even sweeter when I read stuff like this.

Geri
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Hello pot, kettle here.

The French are the worst losers of them all. Remember Marseille in the UEFA Cup final?? :rolleyes:

I don't think complaining about an obviously bad refereeing decision and being robbed at the end constitutes bad losers.

P.S, David, I think rioting is going a bit far... ;)

I would blame Beckham and James before the referee.

Avid Merrion
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:55 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: at Des, Terry, Gareth and Andy. you'd think someone had died ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:56 PM
Just to rub it in, it feels even sweeter when I read stuff like this.
Bah! Brazil are World Champions, without Zidane you aint nothing :p

Lord Chips
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:58 PM
Call me stupid but why did we sit back and not try to add to out lead? My Rugby team won the League and European cup this season and we didn't do it by scoring a try, taking our attacking players off and defending for the rest of the match.



SVEN, SORT IT OUT!

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 08:59 PM
Bah! Brazil are World Champions, without Zidane you aint nothing :p
England hasn't won anything for 38 years. Thanks.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:00 PM
P.S, David, I think rioting is going a bit far... ;)
Anyway, it's never done the Turks any harm, infact anyone but England, it's just we get into trouble for it

And we're coming home in a week anyway

Can't believe i want the Italians to win more now ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:01 PM
England hasn't won anything for 38 years. Thanks.
Nope, we haven't, well done Maestro, well spotted

But where do the majority of top Frenchman play?

Kart
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Oh I switched off with a bit left. I thought England were going to win :o.

Yay France :yeah:.

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Fucking traitor!
Oh grow up. Why is it some English football fans can neither win nor lose without resorting to caveman-like antics whatever the outcome? You can call names and advocate riots and do whatever you want; but how long will it take you to understand that's exactly why the rest of Europe laughs at our misfortune in the big competitions?

Go and have a wank over one of your teenage popstars, it might get rid of some of your aggression.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:03 PM
I bet if England had won we would be hearing how an amazing win it was over France but England lose and all our players are bad. I like our bad players :)
Defensively we were superb, Henry, who never performs in the big games was non existent, do you not think?

France will probably win this, but future tournaments will not. If the likes of Boumsong and Sinama Pongolle are the best you have coming through, expect long hard times :)

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Nope, we haven't, well done Maestro, well spotted

But where do the majority of top Frenchman play?What does it have to do with tonight match? English clubs are way richer than French ones, so you can afford the good players... and if the Premier League clubs feel the need to hire French players, it must mean that they're good, right?

Central
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Because Beckham can't put a penalty in, and Zidane can...

I agree :wavey:

If England had gone ahead 2-0, the match would have been over, with 10 or 11.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Oh grow up. Why is it some English football fans can neither win nor lose without resorting to caveman-like antics whatever the outcome? You can call names and advocate riots and do whatever you want; but how long will it take you to understand that's exactly why the rest of Europe laughs at our misfortune in the big competitions?

Go and have a wank over one of your teenage popstars, it might get rid of some of your aggression.
So because of that, you don't support England? How lame

And your last message just confirms YOUR immaturity :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:05 PM
What does it have to do with tonight match? English clubs are way richer than French ones, so you can afford the good players... and if the Premier League clubs feel the need to hire them, it must mean that they're good, right?Or cheaper than there English counterparts?

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:06 PM
What does it have to do with tonight match? English clubs are way richer than French ones, so you can afford the good players... and if the Premier League clubs feel the need to hire French players, it must mean that they're good, right?
And we have a Frenchie at Boro, Queudrue who i like very much, and is infact a decent bloke

I don't dislike the French as a whole and think they are a very good, yet ageing side.

I just think tonight they got very lucky, when perhaps they should have had 10 men for the last 15 or so minutes, but the ref let you off

gentenaire
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:07 PM
David, methinks you're a little bit biased, just a little ;)

The French were better and deserved to win, full stop.

The commentators were remarking during the match that only one team was playing football while the other was just sitting back, and that it was the other in the lead. Also, on several occasion I felt the ref was biased towards the English.

The French were constantly pressing forward, unlike the English.

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Or cheaper than there English counterparts?
Doesn't the majority of the English squad play in Premier League?

Geri
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:09 PM
Actually, I'd blame Beckham and Gerrard, dear.



OK, dear.

Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:09 PM
Another boring match if you ask me. Hope it gets better soon.

Central
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:10 PM
David, methinks you're a little bit biased, just a little ;)

The French were better and deserved to win, full stop.

The commentators were remarking during the match that only one team was playing football while the other was just sitting back, and that it was the other in the lead. Also, on several occasion I felt the ref was biased towards the English.

The French were constantly pressing forward, unlike the English.

IMHO, England were better, France only were pressing forward because they were 0-1.
But
they didn't finish it off.

Grachka
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:17 PM
:haha: at this thread

Lord Chips
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:18 PM
*Notes with interest how nobody has said anything about my comments on the previous page ;)*

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:18 PM
David, methinks you're a little bit biased, just a little ;)

The French were better and deserved to win, full stop.

The commentators were remarking during the match that only one team was playing football while the other was just sitting back, and that it was the other in the lead. Also, on several occasion I felt the ref was biased towards the English.

The French were constantly pressing forward, unlike the English.
Must have been watching another game, Zidane (until 91 mins), Henry and Trezeguet were all rubbish

Draw was a fair result, but obviously would have taken the win ;)

England defended better, and defended France to the hilt

The free kick and penalty were deserved, however the thing i debate is Silvestre NOT being sent off when he clearly should have been

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Doesn't the majority of the English squad play in Premier League?
Yes, but they come through the ranks of English teams.

In England, we get some quality foreigners (Henry, Van Nistelrooy etc) but also some 4th rate foreigners who are cheaper than English players

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:21 PM
Actually, I'd blame Beckham and Gerrard, dear.

Yes, Beckham should have scored the penalty (if Rooney had passed to Vassel, I'm sure this wouldn't even have happened anyway) but the referee didn't do his job.

11 versus 10 would have had a major impact on the game, France weren't creating much with 11 players on the pitch...
Gerrard and Heskey, Gerrard especially.

Barthez pulled off great save for pen, can't blame Becks

The ref was poor, Pires yellow card was odd, as was Lampards and Rooney should have been booked and Silvestre and James sent off

Never liked Merk.......................bet we get Kim Milton Nielsen next :o

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:22 PM
*Notes with interest how nobody has said anything about my comments on the previous page ;)*
Ooops, sorry ;)

But i agree, attack is the best form of defence

It went wrong when we made substitutions - should have been Butt not Hargreaves

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Clearly you aren't a real football fan then. :rolleyes:
Clearly he/she is not a real English person either, you NEVER go against your country

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:23 PM
:mad::sad: england :mad:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:23 PM
:haha: at this thread
Behave..................Iceland ;) Faroes ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:24 PM
I don't agree, Beckham hit it relatively central and perfect hight for the keeper. Therefore, if BArthez goes that way, which he did, it was always going to be saved... :(
Bit harsh ;)

Although i have to ask one thing..............where the fuck did all these people come from? Never seen any of them post anything remotely to do with Footie

DelMonte
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:27 PM
France has the better team and for most of today played the better football. They were playing attacking forward, keeping possession and had many more strikes on goal than England.

England had little possession, few attempts on goals and the best thing they had going for them was Wayne Rooney aggressive play.

Having said that, England lost today not because France played better but because their strategy was STUPID.

How can a team that has a weak defence stay back against a team that has one of the best offensive records? England defended well for a while but I always felt that it was only a matter of time before France was going to score one. England's defence is not good enough to withstand a sustained attack....and look what happened. In the last minute or so, an amazingly STUPID back-pass by Gerrard forced James to take down Henri.

I won't even talk about the Beckham penalty. The minute he lined up, I knew it wasn't going on. I just sensed it. He was unlucky though; it was a good save by Barthez.

The subsitutions were stupid also. Ok, take off Owen because w/o supply he is useless. But why take off Rooney and Scholes??? What has Heskey done lastely??

ARGH!!! :devil: :devil: :devil:

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:28 PM
Bit harsh ;)

Although i have to ask one thing..............where the fuck did all these people come from? Never seen any of them post anything remotely to do with Footie
I already mentioned I didn't post in the football thread because of the general atmosphere there.
Cheering against someone and hoping that some people will riot is something that repels me from posting.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:28 PM
Don't think so at all. :p

God knows, people seem to like seieng England fail... ;)
They seem to be mostly Frenchies, who have shown no interest in football before tonight :confused:

Or Scots who find it funny, despite not being at the finals :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:30 PM
I already mentioned I didn't post in the football thread because of the general atmosphere there.
Cheering against someone and hoping that some people will riot is something that repels me from posting.
Erm, i had never said that before tonight, so that's a poor excuse. You are obviously not strong enough to air your views and/or can't cope with people possibly disagreeing with those views?

I say what i feel all the time and fear nothing anyone says

I also enjoy winding people up :)

Lord Chips
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:30 PM
They seem to be mostly Frenchies, who have shown no interest in football before tonight :confused:

Or Scots who find it funny, despite not being at the finals :p
Minus the Scots the same happened in the Rugby Thread when we lost to them in March

Mercury Rising
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:30 PM
How can a team that has a weak defence stay back against a team that has one of the best offensive records? England defended well for a while but I always felt that it was only a matter of time before France was going to score one. England's defence is not good enough to withstand a sustained attack....and look what happened. In the last minute or so, an amazingly STUPID back-pass by Gerrard forced James to take down Henri.

I thought England had an amazingly good defense, they did very well in this match...untill the mistake.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:31 PM
[QUOTE=JonBcn

Go and have a wank over one of your teenage popstars, it might get rid of some of your aggression.[/QUOTE]
Hey JonBcn

How many of them are teenagers? Facts = wrong :)

snoop
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:31 PM
God knows, people seem to like seeing England fail... ;):shrug:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:31 PM
Minus the Scots the same happened in the Rugby Thread when we lost to them in March
What happened when England won rugby world cup, as i was away, you know, when we beat the feeble French rugby players :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:32 PM
I thought England had an amazingly good defense, they did very well in this match...untill the mistake.
Indeed.........do you mean the mistake of letting Heskey onto a football field? ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:33 PM
:shrug:
I want the Germans to do well.......no really, if you meet the French or Italians i do ;)

Lord Chips
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:34 PM
What happened when England won rugby world cup, as i was away, you know, when we beat the feeble French rugby players :p
They were nowhere to be seen. (although one or two of them have popped up here tonight!)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Don't think so at all. :p

God knows, people seem to like seeing England fail... ;)

Also explains the clueless comments such as "France deserved to win" etc. :rolleyes:
Because we are a world power maybe ;)

France did not deserve to win, apart from the 2 goals, what did James have to do?

We had more defensive troubles against Iceland!

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Clearly he/she is not a real English person either, you NEVER go against your country
Oh for fucks sake, how dare you question my identity? What century do you live in? I may be English but I've been lucky enough to live in many countires around the world, so if my decision of which team I support is based on choice and education rather than fanatically and blindly following a team just because of their geographical proximity, I would hardly say is any less valid an opinon than yours.

I never said I cheer against England, rather in certain matches (and theres not many of them) I might favour other teams. In this one, I happened to want England to win. Predictably, they screwed it up, but thats life. I was disappointed and bemused, but I didnt immediately advocate smashing up tables in a foreign country as a response. :rolleyes:

Now you've made me use the rolleyes smilie, and I hate that smilie.

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Erm, i had never said that before tonight, so that's a poor excuse. You are obviously not strong enough to air your views and/or can't cope with people possibly disagreeing with those views?

I say what i feel all the time and fear nothing anyone says

I also enjoy winding people up :)
Ah, I sure accept that people disagree with me, but you'll never see me use the referee excuse and the likes.
I would have cut you some slack if you had just said that the French got lucky, that the referee was paid blablabla, but you felt the need to add this riot comment.

It's just a football match.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:34 PM
They were nowhere to be seen. (although one or two of them have popped up here tonight!)
Now there's a shock!

In England (as you know) we call it glory hunting

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Oh for fucks sake, how dare you question my identity? What century do you live in? I may be English but I've been lucky enough to live in many countires around the world, so if my decision of which team I support is based on choice and education rather than fanatically and blindly following a team just because of their geographical proximity, I would hardly say is any less valid an opinon than yours.

I never said I cheer against England, rather in certain matches (and theres not many of them) I might favour other teams. In this one, I happened to want England to win. Predictably, they screwed it up, but thats life. I was disappointed and bemused, but I didnt immediately advocate smashing up tables in a foreign country as a response. :rolleyes:

Now you've made me use the rolleyes smilie, and I hate that smilie.
I live in the 21st Century :)

So you suggest i support Iraq? Or is that not valid?

Tables = materials, easily replaced, not the end of the world :)

I made you do nothing, it was your choice :)

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:37 PM
LMAO....... was this for real :tape:
good to be home again, well for 1 week at least.

England think they gonna win every tourn they enter :tape:
at least be realistic like some other countries are ;)


if France without Zidane are Ave.
England are :o :lol:

Becks should have made it 2-0
maybe he was trying to locate his balls :lol: in his shorts and radar went haywire.

Zidane :worship:
Thats what you call a world class player
Not Beckham, Owen, Gerrard :o

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:37 PM
Now there's a shock!

In England (as you know) we call it glory hunting
Next time England beats France in rugby, I'll make sure to tell you that your team only has one good player, that the referee was on your side, and that you got lucky. I'm sure you'll like that.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Ah, I sure accept that people disagree with me, but you'll never see me use the referee excuse and the likes.
I would have cut you some slack if you had just said that the French got lucky, that the referee was paid blablabla, but you felt the need to add this riot comment.

It's just a football match.
So the referee is ALWAYS right in your eyes?

Come in the footie thread, we disagree sometimes, but as you say it's just football, so you have nothing to fear

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:39 PM
Next time England beats France in rugby, I'll make sure to tell you that your team only has one good player, that the referee was on your side, and that you got lucky. I'm sure you'll like that.
It has been mentioned many times, and we do only have one player :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:40 PM
LMAO....... was this for real :tape:
good to be home again, well for 1 week at least.

England think they gonna win every tourn they enter :tape:
at least be realistic like some other countries are ;)


if France without Zidane are Ave.
England are :o :lol:

Becks should have made it 2-0
maybe he was trying to locate his balls :lol: in his shorts and radar went haywire.

Zidane :worship:
Thats what you call a world class player
Not Beckham, Owen, Gerrard :o
Sharonov :nerner:

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Sharonov :nerner:
like i said we're realists :p
we'd still beat you anyday :p
probably even in Darts :devil:

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:41 PM
So you suggest i support Iraq? Or is that not valid?I dont know...have you lived in Iraq? Do you feel an affinity with the people there? D you have friends and family there who will be happy if Iraq wins? Have you been to see football matches in Iraq and do you know / support professional players from there? Do you like the way the team plays? Then go ahead. These are some of the criteria that apply to my support of Spain, and I dont see why I should apologise for them :confused:

DelMonte
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:42 PM
I thought England had an amazingly good defense, they did very well in this match...untill the mistake.

but that's my point...i think the 'mistake' was inevitable. i was waiting for it. when you a defence that has holes like england, mistakes and stuff-ups are bound to happen. i watched the match with my friends and i kept telling them that there's no way england's defence is going to hold.

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:43 PM
Doesn't this remind you of Scotland 78 and their World Cup song :lol: :tape:
at least they had some world class players.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:43 PM
like i said we're realists :p
we'd still beat you anyday :p
probably even in Darts :devil:
I'm a realist, i said we might get out of our group ;)

Probably, depends, if Heskey and Hargreaves play

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:45 PM
I dont know...have you lived in Iraq? Do you feel an affinity with the people there? D you have friends and family there who will be happy if Iraq wins? Have you been to see football matches in Iraq and do you know / support professional players from there? Do you like the way the team plays? Then go ahead. These are some of the criteria that apply to my support of Spain, and I dont see why I should apologise for them :confused:
No, but should that be the only reasons? Maybe i dislike Americans and support Iraq? (I don't but would i need a reason, like you suggest?)

And i'm not asking you to apologise, therefore you should not worry about my opinions

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:45 PM
Doesn't this remind you of Scotland 78 and their World Cup song :lol: :tape:
at least they had some world class players.
:confused:

Scotland have never had any World Class players ;)

Avid Merrion
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Scotland have never had any World Class players ;)
:rolleyes: that's right, make yourself feel better by slagging off Scotland :p feel better now? :lol:

Mercury Rising
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:51 PM
but that's my point...i think the 'mistake' was inevitable. i was waiting for it. when you a defence that has holes like england, mistakes and stuff-ups are bound to happen. i watched the match with my friends and i kept telling them that there's no way england's defence is going to hold.I think they could hold it, you were lucky you were right, but if Zidane didn't score the freekick it would very probably be 1-0 to England, the match was almost over.

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:53 PM
No, but should that be the only reasons? Maybe i dislike Americans and support Iraq? (I don't but would i need a reason, like you suggest?)
Whatever your reason, you're perfectly entitled to it. I dont care it what is and, knowing nothing about you, would certainly never label you a "fucking traitor" for it.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:53 PM
:rolleyes: that's right, make yourself feel better by slagging off Scotland :p feel better now? :lol:
Slagging off Scotland is a right Mr Merrion :p not a privelidge :p

Don't laugh too much, you got France in WC qualifying :lol:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Whatever your reason, you're perfectly entitled to it. I dont care it what is and, knowing nothing about you, would certainly never label you a "fucking traitor" for it.
Then i apologise, even if i find it difficult to understand why someone would go against there own country. Individuals (Henman for example) i would understand.

But i will have that wank over my pop/non pop lasses later, though only 1 is a teenager

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:55 PM
and if Mr Spicegirl had scored that pen against Capt Picard, then it would have been diff

its all IF's and Buts.

Should have let someone else take that pen against Barthez

everyone was laughing their heads off and calling barthez the "weak-link" in the French team, and he who laughs last.......... ;) :haha:

But i still hope the French dont win again :o
they getting almost as robotic as the Germans were.

ys
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Poor Beckham.. If England doesn't get out of group, he is dead.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Anyway, I don't see why this got so out-of-hand.

Surely people can understand why England feel like they should have won, and are disappointed to have thrown away a lead against the best team in Europe. I'm sure France would have felt the same had it been reversed.
I was the one who wound everyone up, cos unlike some, i am passionate about my country (A country where we get all these asylum seekers and then we are told it's offensive to fly ENGLISH FLAGS IN ENGLAND)

It would be the same if France had lost, only i'm very opinionated, some people dont like that ;)

Avid Merrion
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:57 PM
Slagging off Scotland is a right Mr Merrion :p not a privelidge :p

Don't laugh too much, you got France in WC qualifying :lol:
:lol: just like being Scottish gives us the right to support whoever England are playing :p

as for the WC draw, who cares? we are shit, but at least we know and accept it! :lol: :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:58 PM
and if Mr Spicegirl had scored that pen against Capt Picard, then it would have been diff

its all IF's and Buts.

Should have let someone else take that pen against Barthez

everyone was laughing their heads off and calling barthez the "weak-link" in the French team, and he who laughs last.......... ;) :haha:

But i still hope the French dont win again :o
they getting almost as robotic as the Germans were.
Desailly is the weak link.......................

The French are boring, they certainly don't play with excitement, I enjoyed Spain yesterday, and i'm not just saying that cos of Russia ;) They play with 2 wingers, which is exciting and refreshing

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 09:59 PM
Anyway, I don't see why this got so out-of-hand.

Surely people can understand why England feel like they should have won, and are disappointed to have thrown away a lead against the best team in Europe. I'm sure France would have felt the same had it been reversed.
Sure... but I wouldn't have said that the English squad was a bunch of "fucking cheaters", that they paid the referee etc.
Of course you can be disappointed. Just don't say this sort of things. Is it so hard to understand that the other side could resent it?

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:05 PM
Sure... but I wouldn't have said that the English squad was a bunch of "fucking cheaters", that they paid the referee etc.
Of course you can be disappointed. Just don't say this sort of things. Is it so hard to understand that the other side could resent it?
If it was true....................................

I seem to recall the English rugby side getting a hell of a lot of stick from the french and aussies

I guess what can't be taken, should not be given out.................

DelMonte
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:06 PM
darn, i just lost a long reply cos the server was busy. anyway, before protugal 2004 started, i made a prediction that england would have trouble getting out the group stage. i was surprised when they went up against france but always felt that france would come back (even in the 90th minute, i was begging them to hold on but expecting the worst).

anyway, all england need to do now is stuff up against switzerland somehow and they are TOAST! i can see it now! :rolleyes:

JonBcn
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:07 PM
Individuals (Henman for example) i would understand.
Funnily enough, I have always cheered against Henman until recently. I'm warming to him and I'm not sure why :confused:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:07 PM
darn, i just lost a long reply cos the server was busy. anyway, before protugal 2004 started, i made a prediction that england would have trouble getting out the group stage. i was surprised when they went up against france but always felt that france would come back (even in the 90th minute, i was begging them to hold on but expecting the worst).

anyway, all england need to do now is stuff up against switzerland somehow and they are TOAST! i can see it now! :rolleyes:
Sven's tactics were balls

We should beat Swiss and Croats, but after tonight...............

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:08 PM
If it was true....................................

I seem to recall the English rugby side getting a hell of a lot of stick from the french and aussies

I guess what can't be taken, should not be given out.................
This is the perfect behaviour to have. Bravo :bigclap:

And just one page before, you said you didn't see the French when England won the World Cup.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:08 PM
Funnily enough, I have always cheered against Henman until recently. I'm warming to him and I'm not sure why :confused:
Me too, maybe he's getting older, although he's 1 year older than me, so i kinda grown up with him.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:11 PM
This is the perfect behaviour to have. Bravo :bigclap:

And just one page before, you said you didn't see the French when England won the World Cup.
If it's the post i think you mean, i was away from this board, not from the world, i heard many French/Aussie comments about being a one man team and boring and favoured

This board is not the world, merely full of many of us whose lives are not fulfilled elsewhere

flyingmachine
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:11 PM
England 1 France 2 :bigcry:
I'm know is sad but we just have to beat the other 2 teams and go though. I hope England will bounce back for the next match.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:12 PM
England 1 France 2 :bigcry:
I'm know is sad but we just have to beat the other 2 teams and go though. I hope England will bounce back for the next match.
We should, but we won't

Not with Sven in charge. He can't make a substitution to save his life, or pick a squad

Geri
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:25 PM
We should, but we won't

Not with Sven in charge. He can't make a substitution to save his life, or pick a squad

I think you will qualify OK. Croatia and Switzerland did not look too good today at all so I think France and England should go through anyway.

DelMonte
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:26 PM
Sven's tactics were balls

We should beat Swiss and Croats, but after tonight...............


ok, i have done a few quick calculations. if anyone is interested in doing the same, go to http://www.euro2004.com/Fanzone/Freebies/forecast/index.html

go to the very last option called "download the Finals Forecast file". it's an excel file where you can enter your own predictions and the relevant group tables will be automatically updated and points will be calculated.

anyway, according to my quick calculations, even if england were to draw 1-1 against switzerland, they should be OK as long as france win all of their matches (france can even draw 1-1 against switzerland in their 3rd match).

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:26 PM
If it's the post i think you mean, i was away from this board, not from the world, i heard many French/Aussie comments about being a one man team and boring and favoured

This board is not the world, merely full of many of us whose lives are not fulfilled elsewhere
Perfect attitude again. That's how you solve problems: "They did that so we can retaliate in the same way".
I've followed the French team since I was a kid (though my life doesn't revolve around football, far from it) and never ever have I felt the need to say what you said tonight (even after the 2002 fiasco).
Try it. You'll feel calmer.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:26 PM
I think you will qualify OK. Croatia and Switzerland did not look too good today at all so I think France and England should go through anyway.
Hmmmmm, wish i had your confidence, we have to beat both really, and now i have to hope France win both games too.

Croatia and Switzerland looked terrible, but against England and France they will up their games

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:28 PM
ok, i have done a few quick calculations. if anyone is interested in doing the same, go to http://www.euro2004.com/Fanzone/Freebies/forecast/index.html

go to the very last option called "download the Finals Forecast file". it's an excel file where you can enter your own predictions and the relevant group tables will be automatically updated and points will be calculated.

anyway, according to my quick calculations, even if england were to draw 1-1 against switzerland, they should be OK as long as france win all of their matches (france can even draw 1-1 against switzerland in their 3rd match).
Ooh will try that

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:33 PM
Perfect attitude again. That's how you solve problems: "They did that so we can retaliate in the same way".
I've followed the French team since I was a kid (though my life doesn't revolve around football, far from it) and never ever have I felt the need to say what you said tonight (even after the 2002 fiasco).
Try it. You'll feel calmer.
So, you'd like it if we English took all your crap, and didn't respond? You like to feel in control? Of what? What you say to people? Of people in your life? You can't handle a response? (as per a previous post?)

Giuliano
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:42 PM
So, you'd like it if we English took all your crap, and didn't respond? You like to feel in control? Of what? What you say to people? Of people in your life? You can't handle a response? (as per a previous post?)
Spot on. I'm so anti-English. You see right through me.

Anyway, the score will remain the same, and I'll surely sleep tighter than you tonight. :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Spot on. I'm so anti-English. You see right through me.

Anyway, the score will remain the same, and I'll surely sleep tighter than you tonight. :)
Where did i say that? I was talking in general :rolleyes:

Yup, to be honest, i don't lose sleep over results, when we lost to the best team in the World, Brazil, i was disappointed, but i knew we lost cos we played poor and Ronaldinho should NOT have been sent off.

But that's life. I believe in Karma, things even themselves out :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 10:50 PM
My match ratings

England

James 6 - not alot to do until injury time
G.Neville 7 - calm, assured
Cole 7 - handled Pires well
Campbell 9 - rock solid
King 9 - fantastic
Scholes 6 - in and out
Gerrard 5 - terrible backpass
Lampard 6 - despite the goal, not in it too much
Beckham 5 - an assist but missed vital penalty
Rooney 8 - very good, made Thuram shit himself
Owen 4 - Worst performance in an England shirt

Subs

Vassell 6 - worked hard
Heskey 5 - why? Useless
Hargreaves 6 - done nothing wrong


France

Barthez 7 - good penalty save, little else to do apart from the goal where he stood no chance
Gallas 7 - solid
Lizarazu 8 - Good going forward
Thuram 6 - Made to look stupid by Rooney, a player Thuram said was nothing special
Silvestre 7 - should have been sent off, but defended solidly
Makelele 7 - solid
Vieira 9 - France's best player
Pires 5 - non existent
Zidane 8 - an 8 for the goals, otherwise did not play that well
Henry 5 - poor show
Trezeguet 5 - worse than Henry, but went close early doors with header

Subs

Wiltord 6 - didn't get in the game
Sagnol 6 - as Wiltord
Dacourt 5 - played a few seconds

Crazy_Fool
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:12 PM
France are one man - Zidane. Without him, they are average, like World Cup 2002 showed.
I agree with that, they really are a poor team without him. They have been the same since 98 now, fcuk knows what they will do when he retires.

Players like Henry, Trez and Pires - I find them all pretty overrated, never done anything on the biggest stage of all. Look good against mediocre opposition I think. Same with the whole of the England team :tape:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:18 PM
I feel all calm now :)

The positives:

We matched France. France attacked more, but that's because they were behind. We matched possibly the best team in Europe (though i think Italy and/or Spain may pip them to the title)

So, the same again and we'll beat Switzerland and Croatia. We CANNOT lose to Switzerland or we are out.

Obviously disappointed, but i stand by my original statement............Markus Merk is a disgrace, you won't see 2 clearer red cards all torunament.

I hope he gets sent home, for a top referee he has shamed himself tonight. In 1998, Paul Durkin (English ref) got sent home for lesser mistakes.

I apologise if i offended anyone, though, i stand by the majority of my comments.

People will have to understand, i am a direct person (unless subtlty and/or sensitivity is needed) I am either straight to the point or very careful, depends on whether i think anyone is touchy, if they are i am careful, if not i aim direct.

I'll learn to treat a few people with kid gloves from now on............except Jonathan_Crane who is a bitch ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:21 PM
I agree with that, they really are a poor team without him. They have been the same since 98 now, fcuk knows what they will do when he retires.

Players like Henry, Trez and Pires - I find them all pretty overrated, never done anything on the biggest stage of all. Look good against mediocre opposition I think. Same with the whole of the England team :tape:
Not poor, not that good either - look at WC 2002, he missed 2 games and was not fit for the 3rd.............and what happened? 0 goals and out in the groups, showing how much Zidane is needed by the French.

Henry can't get up for the big games, and Pires is exactly the same, Trezeguet i have never overly rated.

England are just the same, Beckham has been crap for 2 years, also Scholes.

Spain and Italy............just wait and see

And i have no idea if your post was sacrastic or real, but i have only one thing to say...........Faroes :p ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:22 PM
I never said the French squad were - Silvestre can't be blamed for the referee's error.

And if you had (unjustifiably) said the same about England had they won, I would have just ignored it, knowing that my team had won.

Which, as you mentioned in another post, you can do tonight. ;)
I think he/she was talking to me.................but ignoring all my other well thought out comments that he/she knew was right ;)

Crazy_Fool
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:32 PM
Not poor, not that good either - look at WC 2002, he missed 2 games and was not fit for the 3rd.............and what happened? 0 goals and out in the groups, showing how much Zidane is needed by the French.

Henry can't get up for the big games, and Pires is exactly the same, Trezeguet i have never overly rated.

England are just the same, Beckham has been crap for 2 years, also Scholes.

Spain and Italy............just wait and see

And i have no idea if your post was sacrastic or real, but i have only one thing to say...........Faroes :p ;)
Nah, I'm an England fan ;) . But I know all our players are overrated by the bloody media.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Nah, I'm an England fan ;) . But I know all our players are overrated by the bloody media.
Ah fair do's ;)

Yeah we are overrated, but our players will still be at there peak/young for World Cup 2006, should we qualify

Crazy_Fool
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:38 PM
Ah fair do's ;)

Yeah we are overrated, but our players will still be at there peak/young for World Cup 2006, should we qualify
I think we can peak then. Today in the first half, its the best performance i have seen from us for a long time. We played far too negatively in the 2nd half, and it cost us. Must be that manager spending too much time in Italy :mad:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:40 PM
I think we can peak then. Today in the first half, its the best performance i have seen from us for a long time. We played far too negatively in the 2nd half, and it cost us. Must be that manager spending too much time in Italy :mad:
Sven is the wrong man, we need an Englishman in charge, a passionate English manager (like me ;) )

Oh god, another France-Italy final............how erm.........interesting would that be :eek:

Avid Merrion
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:44 PM
And i have no idea if your post was sacrastic or real, but i have only one thing to say...........Faroes :p ;)
:lol: you won't let that one lie will you? :p

Crazy_Fool
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:45 PM
Sven is the wrong man, we need an Englishman in charge, a passionate English manager (like me ;) )

Oh god, another France-Italy final............how erm.........interesting would that be :eek:
An English manager would be good, but there is no-one around good enough, well there is Graham Taylor of course....I think you would do a good job!!

I wouldn't mind to see Italy win it, I really felt for them in Euro 2000, kind of like my feelings tonight :sad:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Interesting facts - part 12

The 1988 tournament when Holland lost to Russia in their first game. They then went on to play Russia again in the final, and of course won it. Hope for England ;)

The last time, in such a big game, a side 1-0 down scored twice in injury time - Man U 2-1 Bayern. Bayern won it 2 years later.....................

So England will win the final against the French, & in 2 years England will the World Cup ;)

Hey, i'm clinging on to some hope ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:52 PM
:lol: you won't let that one lie will you? :p
I have an answer for everyone :p

Including the Italians..........either South Korea or Fiat Panda's :o

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:54 PM
An English manager would be good, but there is no-one around good enough, well there is Graham Taylor of course....I think you would do a good job!!

I wouldn't mind to see Italy win it, I really felt for them in Euro 2000, kind of like my feelings tonight :sad:
I'd do a better job than Sven, no Michael Ricketts :confused:

McClaren would be best, although he'd leave Boro.

Italy :eek:

Spain i hope, if not England........or Czechs or Holland

Halardfan
Jun 13th, 2004, 11:58 PM
A draw would have been a fair result..both sides created few chances, France poured froward for most of the second half and deserved to equalise, but to win...no.

But they did win. Luck was with them. This day.

I didn't think Beckham would score the penalty...and I thought it was Gerrard at fault for the second French goal...as shame as he is usually such a great player.

Its not over though, England still have a fighting chance...perhaps we will yet meet the French again. :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:05 AM
For the record, i am glad of the following report, i think people took me too seriously before ;) if you knew me, i don't condone violence in any way, in fact i am very much against it and think we need to crack down on it as a race (as a few ppl i speak to on MSN may vouch for, i detest violence ;)) Infact, i am one of the softest people you will meet (but also very opinionated, which we all have the right to be ;) alas people take me the wrong way) My rioting comment was unwise, even if it was meant in a 'less than violent' way, although i had mentioned previously it was meant this way, it was knee jerk reaction to a horrible few minutes of disappointment, albeit i was in the wrong, bad taste joke goes wrong.

Still think most of you are glory hunters though :p And congrats to France, although, i hope you don't win Euro 2004.............and Markus Merk is still a cowardly Jerk!! And i will still disagree with you on certain things

I also apologise to Jonbcn for my 'fucking traitor' comment. I was hugely annoyed with events and Mr Merk. Although i cannot understand why you don't follow England always (i understand individuals, not teams) i will respect your choice

Giulianova - You really should come in the footie thread, 99% of the time, it's all good banter. Sure we take the piss out of the French, but we need someone to remind us we haven't won anything for 38 years more often :o

Jonathan_Crane - Bring On Switzerland! I havea feeling we will be deflated though :(

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LISBON, June 14 (Reuters) - Lisbon police who were braced for trouble after England's stunning 2-1 loss to France reported all quiet early on Monday, with just one fan arrested.


England fans crowded Lisbon nightspots and mingled happily with French supporters after the game. One nightclub area was so orderly that a woman wheeled a baby carriage through hundreds of foreign fans and Portuguese nightclubbers.

Police arrested one England fan for allegedly punching a venue employee at Lisbon's Light stadium, site of the Group B England-France match, a spokeswoman said.


'Beyond that, we have nothing,' she said.


Authorities had considered the game to carry a high risk of violence and there were fears England fans would seek an outlet for their frustration after France turned round the match with two injury time goals by captain Zinedine Zidane.


Sam Cooley, a 22-year-old university student from Leighton Buzzard, said he felt 'gutted' by the loss.


'When I was watching it, it felt like a dream because everything was going wrong,' Cooley said as he sat drinking beer with friends in the central Rossio square.


In the Docas nightclub sector on Lisbon's waterfront, police kept a low-key presence. 'So far, so good,' one officer said, holding up crossed fingers.


SIC TV reported many England and French fans had headed directly to the airport after the game, and 50 flights were scheduled to leave for Britain through 7 a.m.


England fans rioted at the European Championship in Belgium and the Netherlands in 2000. European soccer's governing body has warned England they will be expelled from this tournament if there is a repeat.


In Albufeira, centre of the English tourist industry on the Algarve coast, about 200 fans packed into Lineker's Bar, named after a former English soccer player.


At the final whistle fans left muttering and swearing under their breaths but there were no incidents. Later Dutch fans mingled with English holidaymakers, commiserating with them.

VivalaSeles
Jun 14th, 2004, 07:48 AM
Hope England riot tonight, i really do

Bring it home lads! Do some damage :yeah:
You are a H-O-O-L-I-G-A-N :fiery: I'm so glad your not in Portugal :fiery: Go and riot in your own country :tape:

VivalaSeles
Jun 14th, 2004, 07:50 AM
For the record, i am glad of the following report, i think people took me too seriously before ;) if you knew me, i don't condone violence in any way, in fact i am very much against it and think we need to crack down on it as a race (as a few ppl i speak to on MSN may vouch for, i detest violence ;)) Infact, i am one of the softest people you will meet (but also very opinionated, which we all have the right to be ;) alas people take me the wrong way) My rioting comment was unwise, even if it was meant in a 'less than violent' way, although i had mentioned previously it was meant this way, it was knee jerk reaction to a horrible few minutes of disappointment, albeit i was in the wrong, bad taste joke goes wrong.

Still think most of you are glory hunters though :p And congrats to France, although, i hope you don't win Euro 2004.............and Markus Merk is still a cowardly Jerk!! And i will still disagree with you on certain things

I also apologise to Jonbcn for my 'fucking traitor' comment. I was hugely annoyed with events and Mr Merk. Although i cannot understand why you don't follow England always (i understand individuals, not teams) i will respect your choice

Giulianova - You really should come in the footie thread, 99% of the time, it's all good banter. Sure we take the piss out of the French, but we need someone to remind us we haven't won anything for 38 years more often :o

Jonathan_Crane - Bring On Switzerland! I havea feeling we will be deflated though :(

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LISBON, June 14 (Reuters) - Lisbon police who were braced for trouble after England's stunning 2-1 loss to France reported all quiet early on Monday, with just one fan arrested.


England fans crowded Lisbon nightspots and mingled happily with French supporters after the game. One nightclub area was so orderly that a woman wheeled a baby carriage through hundreds of foreign fans and Portuguese nightclubbers.

Police arrested one England fan for allegedly punching a venue employee at Lisbon's Light stadium, site of the Group B England-France match, a spokeswoman said.


'Beyond that, we have nothing,' she said.


Authorities had considered the game to carry a high risk of violence and there were fears England fans would seek an outlet for their frustration after France turned round the match with two injury time goals by captain Zinedine Zidane.


Sam Cooley, a 22-year-old university student from Leighton Buzzard, said he felt 'gutted' by the loss.


'When I was watching it, it felt like a dream because everything was going wrong,' Cooley said as he sat drinking beer with friends in the central Rossio square.


In the Docas nightclub sector on Lisbon's waterfront, police kept a low-key presence. 'So far, so good,' one officer said, holding up crossed fingers.


SIC TV reported many England and French fans had headed directly to the airport after the game, and 50 flights were scheduled to leave for Britain through 7 a.m.


England fans rioted at the European Championship in Belgium and the Netherlands in 2000. European soccer's governing body has warned England they will be expelled from this tournament if there is a repeat.


In Albufeira, centre of the English tourist industry on the Algarve coast, about 200 fans packed into Lineker's Bar, named after a former English soccer player.


At the final whistle fans left muttering and swearing under their breaths but there were no incidents. Later Dutch fans mingled with English holidaymakers, commiserating with them.This was AFTER the game !!!! BEFORE the game, English supporters threw tear gas into a bus :fiery:

flyingmachine
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:02 AM
A draw would have been a fair result..both sides created few chances, France poured froward for most of the second half and deserved to equalise, but to win...no.

But they did win. Luck was with them. This day.

I didn't think Beckham would score the penalty...and I thought it was Gerrard at fault for the second French goal...as shame as he is usually such a great player.

Its not over though, England still have a fighting chance...perhaps we will yet meet the French again. :)

Oh yeah the French done the same to the Italians on the final of Euro 2000. Well England have to bounce back for sure.

Giuliano
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:32 AM
I never said the French squad were - Silvestre can't be blamed for the referee's error.

And if you had (unjustifiably) said the same about England had they won, I would have just ignored it, knowing that my team had won.

Which, as you mentioned in another post, you can do tonight. ;)
Oh, I usually ignore that but wishing that there would be some riots was a bit over the top, wasn't it?

DelMonte
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:40 AM
here's a short but hilarious interview with vassel to cheer everyone up:

Darius Vassell

Small Talk was promised 10 minutes with England striker Darius Vassell, which then became five minutes, which in turn seemed like the longest five minutes Small Talk can remember.

Nick Harper
Friday June 11, 2004

Hello Darius.
[Very softly] Hi.

Hello? Anyone there?
[A tad louder] Hi.

Ah, there you are. The clock's apparently ticking, Darius, so who's going to win Euro 2004?
England.

[Small Talk sighs] No you're not.
We will.

"Look into my eyes", said Sven. And you fell for it...
No, I really think we'll win it.

Right. Let's say you won't, and you won't, then who will?
France, probably.

Will you beat them in the opening gam... ach, balls! What's your favourite biscuit?
Pardon? [Sounds bemused]

Biscuit? What do you go for?
Erm... [thinks for a while, eating into our valuable time] chocolate chip cookies, probably.

Are footballers allowed to eat biscuits?
I eat what I want.

Right. What would you shove into Room 101, given the chance?
Myself, probably.

Erm, you want to get rid of yourself?
Oh, no. What is Room 101? [Small Talk explains] Can we come back to that one?

We'll have to. What was the last CD you bought?
Erm, I can't remember.

Go on, try.
Erm, probably some Soul or R&B.

Big fan of Busted?
No.

Right. And what's your favourite TV show?
Erm... The Premiership.

Lordy. Anything else?
Erm... I like Nip/Tuck too.

That's better. And what about the cheese-or-chocolate conundrum?
What do I prefer? [Small Talk nods] Chocolate.

What kind?
Erm, I don't mind. Any chocolate.

How much for a pint of milk? [Answer: 40-odd-p]
Erm... erm... about... 39p?

Close enough. What colour underpants are you wearing today?
Erm, they're [sounds like he's having a gander] dark blue boxer shorts.

Designer, I'll wager...
They're Hugo Boss.

Kylie or Britney?
Britney, but only to look at.

Lion fights tiger. Who wins?
[Like a shot] Lion. He's the King of the Jungle.

Have you ever knocked a man out?
No.

Never?
I thought I once did at school.

But you didn't.
No.

Right. What's your favourite book?
... [sounds like he's thinking]... [for ages]

Are you still there?
I haven't really got one.

Well, are you reading anything at the moment? The new Jordan hardback, maybe?
No, I'm reading a book called Introduction To Psychology.

Ah, a bed-time classic...
No, I'm thinking of studying psychology.

Highly commendable. Tea or coffee?
Tea, please.

What's your favourite pie?
Erm, apple.

Muck! Sven or David O'Leary?
I've got to go now, sorry.

Bah and Balls!
Bye.

Darius gave Small Talk five minutes in return for a big plug for Xbox. It's great, he says, and his favourite games are Halo and Project Gotham Racing.

source: http://sport.guardian.co.uk/smalltalk/story/0,13852,1235968,00.html

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:36 PM
You are a H-O-O-L-I-G-A-N :fiery: I'm so glad your not in Portugal :fiery: Go and riot in your own country :tape:
another glory hunter :rolleyes: that knows nothing about football

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:37 PM
This was AFTER the game !!!! BEFORE the game, English supporters threw tear gas into a bus :fiery:
The thing i find is that England are punished way more than anyone else.

If an Englishman farts, we get threatend with expulsion, when 2 Turks killed 2 Englishman, they got NOTHING!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:39 PM
Oh, I usually ignore that but wishing that there would be some riots was a bit over the top, wasn't it?
Bit OT, maybe, but you didn't half enjoy picking up that comment and ignoring ALL footballing ones i made, thus making me wonder if you really are a football fan

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Yes, that was a silly comment in the heat of the moment which I am sure David didn't really mean, as his last post showed.

Anyway, it still feels pretty gutting this morning, but France won 2-1, and that's how it will stay in the history books. Hopefully we can qualify through the group stages, and who knows, be doing all this again if we get to meet France in the final... :o :devil:
I didn't mean, but don't regret. It is not my problem, our neighbours like to pick up the non footballing points and ignore the footballing ones (when the knowledge is limited)

Just out of interest, anyone here Silvestre's comments today "I was lucky not to get Sent Off"

Well, one Frenchman who admits it.............and it's the bloke that should have walked! At least he understands the rules i guess

"Sluggy"
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:42 PM
Go Zidane. i intentionally didnt watch the game out of fear id jinx it for France. my wife left for England early this morning for training and was sooo happy to go there after this victory for France, you go boys!!!!!!!!

Hulet
Jun 14th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Congrats to France. I don't know how they pulled it off but, yet again, it's not really so surprising, is it? You can't sit back and defend a 1-0 lead for 50 minutes or more against a team with players that can pull off magic out of thin air. Italy learned(?) that in a most heartbreaking way in the last Euro and many times after, and England were taught the same lesson. As a neutral, I hate England's freaking anti-football stance (I was almost praying that Keegan was the coach again :) ) and I thought it's good for football that France won in the end. I won't even mention some of their fans who were boo-ing during the singing of the French national anthem. :rolleyes:

Now everyone is saying Croatia and Switzerland will roll out and die when they face England, based on their bore-fest match yesterday, but I am not really convinced about this. They are bound to improve a lot after having such a bad game and I am not certain that England players will get over this loss so easily.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:10 PM
Now everyone is saying Croatia and Switzerland will roll out and die when they face England, based on their bore-fest match yesterday, but I am not really convinced about this. They are bound to improve a lot after having such a bad game and I am not certain that England players will get over this loss so easily.
I would agree, Croatia and Switzerland cannot get any worse, and England will be downhearted after what happened. Will be tough now

Halardfan
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:28 PM
I think we still have a fighting cahnce...historically we have ALWAYS struggled in the opening game, and have had to launch a rescue mission.

Judging by the poor Croatia v Switzerland game, England are capable of winning both games. Tough certainly, but entirely possible.

I also think we benefit from a foreign coach, that success with him could help curb the more unsavoury, xenophobic elements in England's support...

None of the most succesful clubs in England currently have an English coach.

Some English fans did boo the French anthem...it was terribly rude, entirely wrong, shameful, but not unexpected. Hey, it reminded me of the French Open! :D ;)

Come on England! :)

(Oh, and come on Spain, who I have again wasted £10 pounds on. How much money have they cost me over the years... :sad: )

per4ever
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:32 PM
whoohoo France :bounce: I'm glad the team that actually played won :)

England..even worse then Italy!!!! Just defending and that's it. Pathetic.

and LOL@anyone who says that France is average without Zidane. Ok he is very important but almost all players in that team are among the best in the world. If you call that average, what on earth do you call a good team???

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:34 PM
.

and LOL@anyone who says that France is average without Zidane. Ok he is very important but almost all players in that team are among the best in the world. If you call that average, what on earth do you call a good team???
When did Henry last have a good game WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED???????

World Cup 2002 minus Zidane, what happened?

Where would France have been last night, minus Zidane?

Point proven

And Brazil are a good team

dubro
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:40 PM
has been a boring match
somethin excitin only in final minuts.
anyway, as i dont like france as i dont like beck's
so, im glad at 50% :lol:

i agree with mr crane: silvestre should been kicked out ... now we could be here to talk bout another score.
but...ball is round...:rolleyes:

Giuliano
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:48 PM
So, did you lose to the number 2 ranked side in the world or just to Zidane and ten figurants?

dubro
Jun 14th, 2004, 01:58 PM
oh...btw...why Emola did'nt posted anything yet abou it.

she committed suicide? :scared:

ahahahah tooooooo funny to see all english hooligans upset for it

...ok...i better shut up coz im afraid tonihgt italy will be kicked :(

Princess Fiona
Jun 14th, 2004, 02:16 PM
I saw most of the first half of this match - I didn't see the second half because I didn't think it was so entertaining *very much ducks* ;) and I was flicking back for scores towards the end... I saw it was 1-1 and then I turned over at the end to hear the result...

Congratulations France and commiserations England!!

I'm not a football fan at all (I know virtually nothing about the game) but my 'virtually nothing' ;) extends to knowledge of Thierry Henry... I have seen little clips of his play on highlights shows (not from the match yesterday) and he's amazing!!

(Wales to make it next time, you think? *hopes* :) And wouldn't Ryan Giggs have a chance at being in a Great Britain team?)

*shutting up now* ;)
I am going to become more of a football fan, I must do this... ;)

Hulet
Jun 14th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Jonathan, I think I would have expected Belgium to do the same as England if they were on the same position, that is, bunker down and defend the 1 goal advantage, and applaud them for it. Belgium doesn't have the same talent as England in midfield and attacking positions (btw, wtf was owen all game?) so defending is a sound option for Belgium. England harried the French midfield players in the center of the field and was controlling the flanks (except for the occasional Pires/Gallas incursions) for much of the first half. Especially Lizarazu was having a difficult time dealing with the flank attacks and conceded the free-kick that led to the England goal. In the second half, though, they lost much ground and were pegged to their own half. Lizarazu now was playing most of the second half in the English half of the field. And, I don't think this retreat was mostly due to the French winning the midfield battles, but the English surrendering much of the field and being content to play in their own third. It really irritates me as a neutral when talented teams do that. Overall, under Eriksson, I think the England tactic have swang to the extreme opposite of Keegan's, which was all attack. They have to find some middle ground.

Henry irritates me most of the game. He doesn't seem to like to play when he is closely marked. But, this poor showing might be because he was being played in a central role and wasn't able to pull to the side as he did in Arsenal. For all the people who say that he doesn't show up in big games, look at what he did to Inter at San Siro? It doesn't get bigger than that.

per4ever
Jun 14th, 2004, 02:34 PM
When did Henry last have a good game WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED???????

World Cup 2002 minus Zidane, what happened?

Where would France have been last night, minus Zidane?

Point proven

And Brazil are a good team
Did you ever follow the Champions League? Did you watch Premier League?? There were very very important matches their too you know. Henry should be on the flank with some room for an action.. not in the center.

per4ever
Jun 14th, 2004, 02:36 PM
So tell me. If, by some miracle, Belgium were in England's place, what would they have done being 1-0 up against the defending champions and number 2 ranked side in the World??

What do you expect?? For us to keep pushing and get exposed at the back?? Like i said, I think we should have shown more urgency on the break, but other than that, I don't understand why a defensive attitude is being criticised in this situation. :rolleyes:
you can't compare those teams at all. First of all Belgium is always a rather defensive playing team. Second, the quality difference is HUGE. Just abandon your game and play all defense is NEVER EVER good. Belgium would do that yeah, in the hope they can hold because it's a very unexpected situation. England is much stronger and should rely on their own force. They were just asking for a goal.

Hulet
Jun 14th, 2004, 02:41 PM
And, for the France without Zidane argument, for all it's worth, Zidane didn't play that great despite what every columnist might say. He showed up to take the amazing freekick and the well placed penality. I thought the best players were Pires and Viera yesterday (but that's because I am a bandwagon Arsenal supporter ;) ). Viera fought and won a lot of balls in the first half when the English were in control while Pires sent some good balls across but no one was there to meet them. In the second half, Viera was pushing a lot to carve up the goal. Yes, without Zidane, they might have not won the match but I don't think they will be average.

VivalaSeles
Jun 14th, 2004, 03:32 PM
another glory hunter :rolleyes: that knows nothing about football
What has this got to do with football may I ask ? Violence, riots, damage have nothing to do with football (only hooliganism and only in your mind). You incite people to rioting and doing damage in a foreign country and you still answer back ? What kind of a football fan are you ?

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Bit harsh ;)

Although i have to ask one thing..............where the fuck did all these people come from? Never seen any of them post anything remotely to do with Footie
Hehe, was thinking that myself. I dont give a shit what anyone has to say anyway. The thing we have to do is remember we restricted Henry, Trezeguet and Zidane until the 89th minute, the best team in the world remember. Now, its still in our hands and if we can come so close against France, then there is no reason why we can't beat Switzerland and Croatia. Anyway, Im glad the haters had their fun :)

And about the bitterness, I am bitter because we were so close and had it snatched away, when France had their set pieces handed them to be. The French would be if it were the other way round, and so would anybody else if it happened to them and they really cared about football and their country.

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 03:58 PM
Sure... but I wouldn't have said that the English squad was a bunch of "fucking cheaters", that they paid the referee etc.
Of course you can be disappointed. Just don't say this sort of things. Is it so hard to understand that the other side could resent it?
nope, but Patrik Vieira basically did. Minus the word fucking lol. Goes to show the arrogance doesn't it. Unless I misread this morning because I had a hang over :p

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:05 PM
oh...btw...why Emola did'nt posted anything yet abou it.

she committed suicide? :scared:

ahahahah tooooooo funny to see all english hooligans upset for it

...ok...i better shut up coz im afraid tonihgt italy will be kicked :(I was out last night having fun despite the game.

Well I hope you're happy that Im absolutely crushed over it ;)

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 04:09 PM
anyway its all said and done and I bet you're all glad I have nothing more to say :p However, I do think that we will forget about it and realise that we can't dwell on last night and have to win our remaining 2 games. There's no reason at all why we can't.

strike86
Jun 14th, 2004, 07:56 PM
Check out this England team, it's a weird but funny cartoon.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/footy.php

tfannis
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:02 PM
:lol: Beckham...so overrated

Zidane :worship:

Well done France :yeah:

strike86
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Don't worry we will win. Anyway are you a French Belgian? You France lovers.

P.S If you watch the cartoon non stop you notice the England score go up, I saw it get to 5-0, before I moved out the website. Shall we use the badgers instead of the current team. :lol:

Nicoleke
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:40 PM
It was a fantastic match :).

Don' t worry english friends, England will easily qualify :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!

Tylane
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:43 PM
I'm really happy of the issue of the match. Now English won't be arrogant anymore, as they were a few days before the match. The newspapers said they were going to kill, burst all is french , the english players didn't stop checking sms to the french players saying " be careful, we'll kiss you ass" etc...it made the French laugh, and now even still more...

Well, I love reading the pathetic messages of jealousy here...go on guys, it's funny ! :lol:

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Only in retaliation to Pires and Henry shooting their mouths off I think you'll find. So I think you'll need to take a look at your team before calling anybody else arrogant. Jealous? Bitter maybe, and under the circumstances there's nothing wrong with that. But, its over now, the French can have their laugh if it makes them feel better.

Mercury Rising
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:51 PM
The English and French are both arrogant, I can say that :lol:

JonBcn
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:53 PM
The English and French are both arrogant, I can say that :lol:
Amen.

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 08:56 PM
The English and French are both arrogant, I can say that :lol:
lol, maybe you're right ;) Im sick of all this now anyway Im not going to read what people say anymore, Im staying out of this thread now. Nobody is going to agree when it comes to things like this. The French are going to slate the English, the English slate the French etc etc. I just hope that the rest of the tournament is good, without shitloads of bickering. Not a good chance of that though.

Avid Merrion
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Now English won't be arrogant anymore
:lol: :lol: :lol: that will NEVER happen! :p ;)

strike86
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:03 PM
I think the French are arrogant. Not us though. :lol:

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:04 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: that will NEVER happen! :p ;)
oi Avid, butt out :p

*throws Avid Merrion out arrogantly*

And I thought you liked me because we're both banana haters! :lol:

Tylane
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:21 PM
But the French are more arrogant. :p

We are just passionate... ;)

In sport, the english journalists and the players (rugby + football) are arrogant, not the French. :angel:

Halardfan
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:42 PM
The English arrogant? Guilty as charged! The ITV commentator here was temptting fate throughout last nights match with his cocky, superior attitude...echoed in the days before the match in many of the lesser newspapers...

But as people have said, our friends the French are equally famously arrogant and have their own share of narrow- minded idiots! ;)

Significant threads of my ancestry are French so I look upon the country with nautral affection. Plus it is the country of the greatest tennis player in the history of tennis, Julie Halard. Henry for me is a better player than Zidane, a magical player. I think France are a wonderful team.

But still...come on England! :)

Lord Chips
Jun 14th, 2004, 09:44 PM
In sport, the english journalists and the players (rugby + football) are arrogant, not the French. :angel:Looks like someone missed the last three minutes of the Heineken Europena Rugby Cup Final. Arrogance at it's best from a Mr Clement Poitrenaud!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40187000/jpg/_40187443_howley_pa.jpg
:worship: :D :bounce:

flyingmachine
Jun 14th, 2004, 10:17 PM
Check out this England team, it's a weird but funny cartoon.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/footy.php
:lol:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:08 PM
Did you ever follow the Champions League? Did you watch Premier League?? There were very very important matches their too you know. Henry should be on the flank with some room for an action.. not in the center.
Aye, i watch, many games, but the Champions League Henry fails to show in the IMPORTANT games.

He's okay for the group stages, but where was he in the QF with Chelsea, did he get a kick in either leg?

He's not a big game player

Thing is, when at Juventus, as a winger he was diabolical, when moved to the Centre by Wenger for Arsenal, he turned into who he is now

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:09 PM
I saw most of the first half of this match - I didn't see the second half because I didn't think it was so entertaining *very much ducks* ;) and I was flicking back for scores towards the end... I saw it was 1-1 and then I turned over at the end to hear the result...

Congratulations France and commiserations England!!

I'm not a football fan at all (I know virtually nothing about the game) but my 'virtually nothing' ;) extends to knowledge of Thierry Henry... I have seen little clips of his play on highlights shows (not from the match yesterday) and he's amazing!!

(Wales to make it next time, you think? *hopes* :) And wouldn't Ryan Giggs have a chance at being in a Great Britain team?)

*shutting up now* ;)
I am going to become more of a football fan, I must do this... ;)
Ryan Giggs possibly,a s England have a left side problem, but that's it ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:10 PM
And, for the France without Zidane argument, for all it's worth, Zidane didn't play that great despite what every columnist might say. He showed up to take the amazing freekick and the well placed penality. I thought the best players were Pires and Viera yesterday (but that's because I am a bandwagon Arsenal supporter ;) ). Viera fought and won a lot of balls in the first half when the English were in control while Pires sent some good balls across but no one was there to meet them. In the second half, Viera was pushing a lot to carve up the goal. Yes, without Zidane, they might have not won the match but I don't think they will be average.
Vieira was France's best player, but Pires failed to produce and was quite poor indeed

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:14 PM
What has this got to do with football may I ask ? Violence, riots, damage have nothing to do with football (only hooliganism and only in your mind). You incite people to rioting and doing damage in a foreign country and you still answer back ? What kind of a football fan are you ?
I think you missed the irony and sarcasm in my post viva

I now realise i missed the ;) out of my post, however should you have read the same post in the Chat Thread, i did not miss my ;)

It's because you Europeans expect English fans to riot i made the comment with a ;) sarcasm/irony

It's funny you pick up on one comment yet fail to notice any other comments i have made, you are just here to cause trouble

I don't care about your country to be honest, i'm sure you have your own hooligans and rapists etc etc, but you feel the need to express your views over the net

I have admitted it was in poor taste, but your lack of whatever, continues the whole debate, and you are taking your frustration of Portugal being shit, out on me :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:16 PM
Hehe, was thinking that myself. I dont give a shit what anyone has to say anyway. The thing we have to do is remember we restricted Henry, Trezeguet and Zidane until the 89th minute, the best team in the world remember. Now, its still in our hands and if we can come so close against France, then there is no reason why we can't beat Switzerland and Croatia. Anyway, Im glad the haters had their fun :)

And about the bitterness, I am bitter because we were so close and had it snatched away, when France had their set pieces handed them to be. The French would be if it were the other way round, and so would anybody else if it happened to them and they really cared about football and their country.
Brazil are the best team in the world ;) France are Zidane. I repeat, World Cup 2002 minus Zidane (Injured for 1st 2 games and 3rd was only 80%) and last night until Zidane's magic, France were average. Sure they have quality, but they also have past it players (Lizarazu, Thuram who's been shit for Juve, Makelele who is a donkey at Chelsea)

Like i say, alot of these people jump up and want to be noticed, then when it's over.................we'll never here from them until there country wins another event..............

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:18 PM
nope, but Patrik Vieira basically did. Minus the word fucking lol. Goes to show the arrogance doesn't it. Unless I misread this morning because I had a hang over :p
Vieira did say that, so basically he's a hooligan too, although i'm sure some people will defend him :rolleyes:

And i repeat for those that can't read

SILVESTRE SAID HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT OFF

So i have been proved CORRECT

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:19 PM
It was a fantastic match :).

Don' t worry english friends, England will easily qualify :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!
I don't think so, we'll prob be leading Swiss 3-0 then Sven does his subs and we'll lose 3-4

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:20 PM
I'm really happy of the issue of the match. Now English won't be arrogant anymore, as they were a few days before the match. The newspapers said they were going to kill, burst all is french , the english players didn't stop checking sms to the french players saying " be careful, we'll kiss you ass" etc...it made the French laugh, and now even still more...

Well, I love reading the pathetic messages of jealousy here...go on guys, it's funny ! :lol:
English arrogant?

:haha: from a Frenchie! That really amazes me!

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:20 PM
He's okay for the group stages, but where was he in the QF with Chelsea, did he get a kick in either leg?
No, thanks to Mr.Terry :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:21 PM
lol, maybe you're right ;) Im sick of all this now anyway Im not going to read what people say anymore, Im staying out of this thread now. Nobody is going to agree when it comes to things like this. The French are going to slate the English, the English slate the French etc etc. I just hope that the rest of the tournament is good, without shitloads of bickering. Not a good chance of that though.
I'm not leaving :p

Hope theres loads of bickering and someone like Holland or Spain win (If England don't)

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Vieira did say that, so basically he's a hooligan too, although i'm sure some people will defend him :rolleyes:

And i repeat for those that can't read

SILVESTRE SAID HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT OFF

So i have been proved CORRECT
I know he said that. Thats why I posted it. I couldn't believe it.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:23 PM
In sport, the english journalists and the players (rugby + football) are arrogant, not the French. :angel:
The French rugby players just gauge peoples eyes and punch them

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:25 PM
No, thanks to Mr.Terry :p
But Henry said it was Gallas

or was that just typical French chuddies eating? :confused:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:26 PM
I know he said that. Thats why I posted it. I couldn't believe it.
See, if i say that, i get turned upon, if Patrick says that, it's okay, cos he's not English

And anyone wonders why we don't wanna be part of Europe :rolleyes:

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:27 PM
But Henry said it was Gallas

or was that just typical French chuddies eating? :confused:
I know, I read that too!! He's lying ;)

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:28 PM
See, if i say that, i get turned upon, if Patrick says that, it's okay, cos he's not English

And anyone wonders why we don't wanna be part of Europe :rolleyes:
I think I was the first one to bring it up was I? Its distasteful and he's talking crap.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:29 PM
I know, I read that too!! He's lying ;)
Of course he is, he looked guilty when saying it......but it's okay.............he's French, French are allowed to lie and cheat ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:30 PM
I think I was the first one to bring it up was I? Its distasteful and he's talking crap.
He can say what he likes, unlike some around here i don't suffer from over sensitivity :p

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:32 PM
Of course he is, he looked guilty when saying it......but it's okay.............he's French, French are allowed to lie and cheat ;)
I know, I saw the interview. Of course its funny how its Gallas the French bloke and not Terry the English bloke who marked him out of the game. Neither of them did it on their own, but I didn't like the way he just dismissed him.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:34 PM
I know, I saw the interview. Of course its funny how its Gallas the French bloke and not Terry the English bloke who marked him out of the game. Neither of them did it on their own, but I didn't like the way he just dismissed him.
Just like Ledley King didn't mark him out last night huh.

I used to like Henry, now i hope he gets suspended for taking drugs :lol:

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:38 PM
Just like Ledley King didn't mark him out last night huh.

I used to like Henry, now i hope he gets suspended for taking drugs :lol:
Yeah, well like I say didn't like his dismissive tone about my John :p King was excellent.

Taking drugs has he? ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:40 PM
Yeah, well like I say didn't like his dismissive tone about my John :p King was excellent.

Taking drugs has he? ;)
No, just if i said injure his knee for a year, i'd get lambasted for being a hooligan wielding a baseball bat, when i meant land awkwardly one wet day @ Portsmouth

But then people think negatively

I got some bad rep from some bugger, and the cheeky little shit can't even show his/her face in here

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:44 PM
No, just if i said injure his knee for a year, i'd get lambasted for being a hooligan wielding a baseball bat, when i meant land awkwardly one wet day @ Portsmouth

But then people think negatively

I got some bad rep from some bugger, and the cheeky little shit can't even show his/her face in here
lol why Portsmouth? ;) You should have just said gets his comeuppance and avoided negativity. Although that might get people like me thinking differently :o

I dont think its very professional to be disrespectful of opponents. Zidane for example talked about Barthez's penalty save and his goals, and didn't focus on us being sirty and making excuses etc.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:50 PM
lol why Portsmouth? ;) You should have just said gets his comeuppance and avoided negativity. Although that might get people like me thinking differently :o

I dont think its very professional to be disrespectful of opponents. Zidane for example talked about Barthez's penalty save and his goals, and didn't focus on us being sirty and making excuses etc.
Zidane isn't French though really is he ;) He's one of many French footballers from Africa like Vieira is Senegalese in reality

Portsmouth? ooops, i suppose i'm discriminative towards the South Coast now :rolleyes:

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Zidane isn't French though really is he ;) He's one of many French footballers from Africa like Vieira is Senegalese in reality

Portsmouth? ooops, i suppose i'm discriminative towards the South Coast now :rolleyes:
I dont know, I've read two things- he was born in Marseille from Algerian descendancy (sp) and I've also heard that he was Algerian but moved to France when he was younger. I dont know.

:o

Giuliano
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:55 PM
I dont know, I've read two things- he was born in Marseille from Algerian descendancy (sp) and I've also heard that he was Algerian but moved to France when he was younger. I dont know.

:o
He was born in Marseille. His parents came from Algeria, though.

But this debate on his nationality would be endless.

Emola
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:58 PM
He was born in Marseille. His parents came from Algeria, though.

But this debate on his nationality would be endless.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:58 PM
I dont know, I've read two things- he was born in Marseille from Algerian descendancy (sp) and I've also heard that he was Algerian but moved to France when he was younger. I dont know.

:o
Well to be fair, he was born in Marseille

Vieria was born in Senegal!
Karembeu was born in Nouvelle Calédonie!
Trezeguet is ARGENTINIAN!
Desailly is Ghanaian!
Makelele is Congolese!

Bit like Hargreaves for England! - hes bloody Canadian! and Sven is Swedish!

Mental, i don't like this foreigners play for etc etc

Holland have half of bloody Surinam - surely they should play for Surinam!!!!

Mental.....and now Cudicini could play for England and Edu nearly did - mental!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 14th, 2004, 11:59 PM
Anyway off to watch Denmark v Italy re-run

:wavey: night

Giuliano
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:00 AM
From his official website: http://www.zidane.fr/FR/magazine/toutsur/index.shtml

Emola
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:02 AM
Yeh but difference is Hargreaves is crap in an England shirt :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Yeh but difference is Hargreaves is crap in an England shirt :p
Not the point ;)

Fact i, we'll soon have an England side where none are English!

Emola
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Tis. Zidane is world class. Hargreaves isn't. We even end up with the second rate foreigners :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:11 AM
Tis. Zidane is world class. Hargreaves isn't. We even end up with the second rate foreigners :p
An advert after 8 mins of the program.......national anthem..........and then a break :rolleyes:

Italy

Camoranesi - Argentinian - didn't even move to Italy til 4 years ago
Vieri - Australian - born in Italy, raised in Australia, where do you draw the line - he even bloody speaks Aussie!

His brother Max - plays for Australia LMFAO! WTF! Either you are an Aussie family or Italian!

Deco - Brazilian

We might as well give up on Internationals now, it's all mixed up

Giuliano
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Well to be fair, he was born in Marseille

Vieria was born in Senegal!
Karembeu was born in Nouvelle Calédonie!
Trezeguet is ARGENTINIAN!
Desailly is Ghanaian!
Makelele is Congolese!

Bit like Hargreaves for England! - hes bloody Canadian! and Sven is Swedish!

Mental, i don't like this foreigners play for etc etc

Holland have half of bloody Surinam - surely they should play for Surinam!!!!

Mental.....and now Cudicini could play for England and Edu nearly did - mental!
But these players (except Trezeguet, I believe) were raised in France and got the nationality because one of their parents (or the person who adopted them in Desailly's case) was French. It doesn't make any sense to make them play for a country they don't know much about.
For instance, Cissé is from Guinea but never went there. Should he play for them anyway?

Giuliano
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Oh, and Nouvelle-Calédonie is in France. :)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 01:54 AM
But these players (except Trezeguet, I believe) were raised in France and got the nationality because one of their parents (or the person who adopted them in Desailly's case) was French. It doesn't make any sense to make them play for a country they don't know much about.
For instance, Cissé is from Guinea but never went there. Should he play for them anyway?
Well i don't know there life histories, but i gather you grasp my point?

How can Cisse be from Guinea but never went there? Surely if he's from there..............

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 01:56 AM
Oh, and Nouvelle-Calédonie is in France. :)Isn't he from the Cook Islands though?

He said once when at my team Middlesbrough (where he was crap) that he used to have dreams about being a warrior fighting back the flames :lol:

VivalaSeles
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:34 AM
I think you missed the irony and sarcasm in my post viva

I now realise i missed the ;) out of my post, however should you have read the same post in the Chat Thread, i did not miss my ;)

It's because you Europeans expect English fans to riot i made the comment with a ;) sarcasm/irony

It's funny you pick up on one comment yet fail to notice any other comments i have made, you are just here to cause trouble

I don't care about your country to be honest, i'm sure you have your own hooligans and rapists etc etc, but you feel the need to express your views over the net

I have admitted it was in poor taste, but your lack of whatever, continues the whole debate, and you are taking your frustration of Portugal being shit, out on me :)
Obviously, you know nothing about me, for you wouldn't accuse me of wanting to start trouble. And it says a lot about you that you have used this opportunity to bash Portugal and Portugal's team. And if you don't grasp the gravity, the enormity of inciting people to violence, you're just hopeless. Plus, if you think a ;) smilie makes eveything ok, you are hopeless twice. And, finally, if you think I would attack the English squad in response to your bad taste bash, think three times: I would never stoop to your level.

gentenaire
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:46 AM
Holland have half of bloody Surinam - surely they should play for Surinam!!!!


Your intelligence is astounding :rolleyes:

tennisIlove09
Jun 15th, 2004, 06:08 AM
And the real winner? David Beckham, because he still gets to go home with Victoria...the hottest chick on the planet

Giuliano
Jun 15th, 2004, 09:14 AM
Well i don't know there life histories, but i gather you grasp my point?

How can Cisse be from Guinea but never went there? Surely if he's from there..............
I do... but Jean-Marie Le Pen used the same point.
Cissé's parents lived in Guinea and migrated to France. Cissé was born in France and spent all his life there. How could he play for Guinea?
This kind of reasoning doesn't make any sense anymore. It's 2004.

Halardfan
Jun 15th, 2004, 09:30 AM
I think its an open tournament, I don't think any of the favourites have played that well yet...no one looks unbeatable...Italy didn't impress yesterday, Spain were OK but no better than that, Portugal were disappointing...England/France we already know about.;)

Its been left to outsides like Sweden and Greece to turn in the best performances so far.

So its still up for grabs...things will be far more clear after this next round of matches...if England can win that, they are in a very strong position to qualify. Presuming the very small, but disgusting element in our support doesn't get us thrown out first.

Tylane
Jun 15th, 2004, 10:43 AM
FIÈRE DU RÉSULTAT de l'équipe de France de foot, mais aussi pour chambrer les Anglais, Amélie Mauresmo arborait hier un magnifique T-shirt bleu frappé de l'écusson tricolore. Elle riait encore de l'incroyable dénouement qu'elle avait suivi à la télévision dans la suite du Grand Hôtel mise à sa disposition par l'organisation du tournoi.
« Nous étions sept Français installés dans le salon à attendre la victoire des Bleus, mais pendant une heure et demie, l'ambiance était morose, racontait-elle. Personne ne l'ouvrait ! Et puis, il y a eu le coup franc de Zidane. Là, je ne vous raconte pas les hurlements ! Et juste derrière le penalty... alors là, ça a été un fou rire général. C'était trop génial ! Gagner comme ça, en deux minutes, alors que pendant tout le match les Français étaient plutôt éteints... »

Avid Merrion
Jun 15th, 2004, 11:50 AM
oi Avid, butt out :p

*throws Avid Merrion out arrogantly*

And I thought you liked me because we're both banana haters! :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: i'm just playing Em ;)

The English arrogant? Guilty as charged! The ITV commentator here was temptting fate throughout last nights match with his cocky, superior attitude...echoed in the days before the match in many of the lesser newspapers...
:worship: it's having to listen to shit like that that makes us :lol: when it all goes wrong for England. there is nothing wrong with losing 2 goals in injury time, in fact it's the Scottish way of doing things! :lol: you can't beat snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! :p :lol:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:03 PM
Obviously, you know nothing about me, for you wouldn't accuse me of wanting to start trouble. And it says a lot about you that you have used this opportunity to bash Portugal and Portugal's team. And if you don't grasp the gravity, the enormity of inciting people to violence, you're just hopeless. Plus, if you think a ;) smilie makes eveything ok, you are hopeless twice. And, finally, if you think I would attack the English squad in response to your bad taste bash, think three times: I would never stoop to your level.
Yet from one post........you think you know me..........funny that, don't you think? I've seen many pointless posts from yourself.

And when i bash Portugal's team.................you want me to say they were outstanding and deserved to win 6-0 against Greece?..........so you want me to lie? So you want me to say Rui Costa was outstanding and Deco turned the game when he came on? You don't like the truth because it winds you up really badly? Basically you want me to lick your ass and tell you the Portugal team are great, because you can't take that you were outplayed by Greece and were made to look completely average?

Sad state of affairs when you can't take no criticism


I think you are the one that knows nothing about me and are not letting one silly comment lie to make yourself look amazingly good and ignoring any footballing posts i have ever made, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN FOOTBALL, MERELY ONLY TROUBLE MAKING

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:05 PM
Your intelligence is astounding :rolleyes:
So Seedorf and Hasselbaink were born in Holland? Or is my intelligence correct, that they were born in Surinam?

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:10 PM
I do... but Jean-Marie Le Pen used the same point.
Cissé's parents lived in Guinea and migrated to France. Cissé was born in France and spent all his life there. How could he play for Guinea?
This kind of reasoning doesn't make any sense anymore. It's 2004.
It may be 2004, but surely you play for your country.

If Cisse has lived in France all his life, fair enough.........but Trezeguet..........

I wish people would stop spotting these types of things and reply to my other points................

With the exception of Giuliano, i really think some other people's footballing knowledge is very sub standard

I have still had no response to Camoranesi, Hargreaves (Okay, Emola, but she doesn't count, she fancies him) many other comments i have made, which makes some peoples comments totally laughable as people know not what they talk about :rolleyes:

Crazy_Fool
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:10 PM
An advert after 8 mins of the program.......national anthem..........and then a break :rolleyes:

Italy

Camoranesi - Argentinian - didn't even move to Italy til 4 years ago
Vieri - Australian - born in Italy, raised in Australia, where do you draw the line - he even bloody speaks Aussie!

His brother Max - plays for Australia LMFAO! WTF! Either you are an Aussie family or Italian!

Deco - Brazilian

We might as well give up on Internationals now, it's all mixed up
I agree with you there, international football should be about representing your country and being proud of doing so. If I was to play for Italy, despite being English, well I don't think I could do it.

I wonder if the likes of Camoranesi sing the national anthem, I doubt it.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:11 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: i'm just playing Em ;)


:worship: it's having to listen to shit like that that makes us :lol: when it all goes wrong for England. there is nothing wrong with losing 2 goals in injury time, in fact it's the Scottish way of doing things! :lol: you can't beat snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! :p :lol:
*Awaits the Swiss flag*

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:13 PM
I agree with you there, international football should be about representing your country and being proud of doing so. If I was to play for Italy, despite being English, well I don't think I could do it.

I wonder if the likes of Camoranesi sing the national anthem, I doubt it.
Me neither. It is the point i am trying to make, but some lesser knowledged people can't quite grasp that and want to focus on my bad joke that went wrong :rolleyes: Showing really to me what they are.

And the funny thing is, i bet VivaMonicaSeles or whatever it's name is, is American or soemthing pretending to be Porky

Avid Merrion
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:14 PM
*Awaits the Swiss flag*
:lol: done! :angel:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:16 PM
:lol: done! :angel:
:lol:

Who apart from the French do you have in WC Qualifying again? :lol:

WorldWar24
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:24 PM
It may be 2004, but surely you play for your country.

If Cisse has lived in France all his life, fair enough.........but Trezeguet..........

I wish people would stop spotting these types of things and reply to my other points................

With the exception of Giuliano, i really think some other people's footballing knowledge is very sub standard

I have still had no response to Camoranesi, Hargreaves (Okay, Emola, but she doesn't count, she fancies him) many other comments i have made, which makes some peoples comments totally laughable as people know not what they talk about :rolleyes:

Don't be bitter:) YOU(England team) are going home, and so is Portugal, probably, but they are already home, so it's cool :angel:

Avid Merrion
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:27 PM
we don't actually have the French :o

we have Italy (split loyalties for those matches ;) ), Slovenia, Norway, Belarus and Moldovia. we'll be lucky to end up 4th! :lol:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:36 PM
Don't be bitter:) YOU(England team) are going home, and so is Portugal, probably, but they are already home, so it's cool :angel:
Bitter? No Disappointed? yes Annoyed with Merk (a ref who usually likes his cards) yes

Going home? We'll see, although we deserve too if we can't beat Switzerland and Croatia we don't deserve any more

Portugal will find it tougher, they will beat Russia, but the Spain game should be good

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:37 PM
we don't actually have the French :o

we have Italy (split loyalties for those matches ;) ), Slovenia, Norway, Belarus and Moldovia. we'll be lucky to end up 4th! :lol:
Oh, must be the Irish that have the French, has to be one of you, usually the French get the easy groups.

Tough group for you Scots. Lord, don't fancy you in that group at all! Sorry ;)

Avid Merrion
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:50 PM
Oh, must be the Irish that have the French, has to be one of you, usually the French get the easy groups.

Tough group for you Scots. Lord, don't fancy you in that group at all! Sorry ;)
yep, it's the Republic of Ireland that have the French.

:lol: you aint telling me anything i don't know, we have no chance! although we will do it the Scottish way and play well against Italy and Norway, then get hammered/humiliated/humped by the rest! :lol:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:53 PM
yep, it's the Republic of Ireland that have the French.

:lol: you aint telling me anything i don't know, we have no chance! although we will do it the Scottish way and play well against France and Norway, then get hammered/humiliated/humped by the rest! :lol:
Don't you mean Italy? :p

Avid Merrion
Jun 15th, 2004, 12:56 PM
shit, yes i did :o

Emola
Jun 15th, 2004, 02:19 PM
No I dont fancy Hargreaves :rolleyes: :p I dont think we'll be going home either.

VivalaSeles
Jun 15th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Yet from one post........you think you know me..........funny that, don't you think? I've seen many pointless posts from yourself.

And when i bash Portugal's team.................you want me to say they were outstanding and deserved to win 6-0 against Greece?..........so you want me to lie? So you want me to say Rui Costa was outstanding and Deco turned the game when he came on? You don't like the truth because it winds you up really badly? Basically you want me to lick your ass and tell you the Portugal team are great, because you can't take that you were outplayed by Greece and were made to look completely average?

Sad state of affairs when you can't take no criticism


I think you are the one that knows nothing about me and are not letting one silly comment lie to make yourself look amazingly good and ignoring any footballing posts i have ever made, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN FOOTBALL, MERELY ONLY TROUBLE MAKING
You said Portugal played shit trying to get back at me. It does not work. I am sorry the only troublemaker is you. It's you who told people to riot and do damage. The fact that you have not perceived (not even now) the outrageous nature of your statement speaks tons about you.

foreva lindsay
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:00 PM
:armed: JAMES :fiery: Beckham :fiery: HESKEY :armed:

Emola
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Im more mad at Gerrard than James. I don't blame him for either of the goals, they were both fantastic. Obviously he conceded the penalty but Henry was too quick and what else was he to do from a shitty backpass like that? If he hadn't brought him down, Henry would most likely have scored anyway. Thats just my opinion though :)

Nicoleke
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:17 PM
The English and French are both arrogant, I can say that :lol:
:sad: ... I disagree ...

So, Britt and french have more reasons to be a little bit arrogant than Belgium. Indeed, Belgium isn' t qualify :lol: :).

:kiss: for Kristofke.

Nicoleke
Jun 15th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Go Latvia !!!!!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 10:24 PM
You said Portugal played shit trying to get back at me. It does not work. I am sorry the only troublemaker is you. It's you who told people to riot and do damage. The fact that you have not perceived (not even now) the outrageous nature of your statement speaks tons about you.
Are you completely dim? I said Portugal were crap on the same day they LOST TO GREECE

Check the Anything Euro 2004 thread in chat threads, then get back to me

I do not need to defend myself to someone, who doesn't check the facts before mouthing off, let alone many people can vouch for me that i'm not a hooligan.......do you believe everything you read?????

It was a joke that went wrong

:cuckoo:

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 10:28 PM
:haha:

The thing is, citizenship is such a complicated issue anyway, it is very difficult to "draw a line".

Whether Hasselbaink feels more Dutch than Surinese, Deco more Portuguese than Brazilian, or Camoranesi more Italian than Argentinian, we cannot say.

It just seems a big shame to me that some people would abuse the pride of representing their country just to give themselves a better chance of playing international football.
The likes of Deco, Camoranesi and Hargreaves bemuse me most. Hargreaves has never played for an English team even!

It's sad when these players have to change nationality to get a game.

Look at Rep Ireland, Jamaica etc etc

I mean, i could get a game for New Zealand, but i am English and have never been to New Zealand!

I cna understand the ones Giuliano was on about most, maybe to a point Trezeguet, but the 3 i mention above is pathetic really

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 15th, 2004, 10:30 PM
:sad: ... I disagree ...

So, Britt and french have more reasons to be a little bit arrogant than Belgium. Indeed, Belgium isn' t qualify :lol: :).

:kiss: for Kristofke.
:haha:

Mercury Rising
Jun 16th, 2004, 05:13 PM
:sad: ... I disagree ...

So, Britt and french have more reasons to be a little bit arrogant than Belgium. Indeed, Belgium isn' t qualify :lol: :).

:kiss: for Kristofke.:eek: Nicky

You proved my point :angel: :kiss:

gentenaire
Jun 16th, 2004, 05:41 PM
So Seedorf and Hasselbaink were born in Holland? Or is my intelligence correct, that they were born in Surinam?

That's not what I meant. Surinam became indepedent from Holland in 1975, so that's quite recent. Seedorf, Hasselbaink are Dutch in many ways. I don't think it's fair tom compare this to an Argentine playing for Italy.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Jun 16th, 2004, 05:52 PM
That's not what I meant. Surinam became indepedent from Holland in 1975, so that's quite recent. Seedorf, Hasselbaink are Dutch in many ways. I don't think it's fair tom compare this to an Argentine playing for Italy.
I repeat to you, like i have said to others, read my other posts. I have admitted it's not the same and would agree with your statement.

The likes of Camoranesi Arg-Ita, Hargreaves Can-Eng, and Deco Bra-Por are absolutely insane changes

I can understand some of the reasons for players, but these 3 take the biscuit, ala Rusedski