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DA FOREHAND
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:39 PM
Jennifer Capriati is ranked higher than Serena.

Myskina ranked three spots higher than Venus.

Funny that everyone is calling thier losses upsets. I thought an upset was when the higher ranked player lost, but I guess everyone expects the Williams sisters to beat everyone therefore anytime they lose it's an upset.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:39 PM
Jennifer Capriati is ranked higher than Serena.

Myskina ranked three spots higher than Venus.

Funny that everyone is calling thier losses upsets. I thought an upset was when the higher ranked player lost, but I guess everyone expects the Williams sisters to beat everyone therefore anytime they lose it's an upset.
BINGO!

jack duckworth
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:40 PM
yes..the best players won:)

CapFan#1
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:40 PM
Actually, due to special seedings, V+S were ranked higher than their opponents today..... None the less, it just speaks to the magnitude of V+S's accomplishments and stature in the sport that it is considered an upset

shap_half
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:40 PM
Of course...:rolleyes:

Jem
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:42 PM
You got it, bud! That's why Serena was seeded second and Venus fourth. Personally, I didn't think either Myskina or Capriati had it in them to win these matches. Venus was my pick to win the tournament, but she had an awful day. Still, all credit to Myskina for doing what she had to to win the match, which was to make Venus play. Also, I wasn't expecting Serena to lose consecutive matches to Capriati.

On the other hand, I was expecting Dementieva to beat Mauresmo and Suarez to beat Sharapova.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:42 PM
Actually, due to special seedings, V+S were ranked higher than their opponents today..... None the less, it just speaks to the magnitude of V+S's accomplishments and stature in the sport that it is considered an upset
They were/are ranked lower than thier opponents.

griffin
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:43 PM
:rolleyes:

Yes, but weren't some people arguing (quite loudly) that Venus and Serena are much better than their injury-induced rankings? And that the FO did well to give them special seedings? And something about Venus being undefeated on clay....

Any excuse for an argument.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:45 PM
:rolleyes:

Yes, but weren't some people arguing (quite loudly) that Venus and Serena are much better than their injury-induced rankings? And that the FO did well to give them special seedings? And something about Venus being undefeated on clay....

Any excuse for an argument.
They are better than thier rankings, and had bad days on thier most vulnerable surface.

Venus is now 19-1 on Clay, what's Amelie's excuse?

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:46 PM
:rolleyes:

Yes, but weren't some people arguing (quite loudly) that Venus and Serena are much better than their injury-induced rankings? And that the FO did well to give them special seedings? And something about Venus being undefeated on clay....

Any excuse for an argument.Serena deserved her special ranking, Venus didn't and she didn't need it.

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Venus was seeded number eight because she would have been in the top half of the draw.

Be careful what you wish for; she won't get this special seeding at Wimbledon and when lower seeds have to face her in early rounds and lose, I dare someone to start complalining.

griffin
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:46 PM
DA FOREHAND - I didn't say she had one, nor was I looking for one, nor do I feel the need to.

CapFan#1
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:47 PM
They were/are ranked lower than thier opponents. Sure, on the WTA rankings they are, but for this tournament they were given special seeding, bumping them up in the rankings. Also, Jen and Natsya get bonus points for beating the #2 and #4, respectively, "ranked" players..... I see what you are saying, but these wins, esp. in Mykina's case are upsets for sure.

tfannis
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:51 PM
Jennifer Capriati is ranked higher than Serena.

Myskina ranked three spots higher than Venus.

Funny that everyone is calling thier losses upsets. I thought an upset was when the higher ranked player lost, but I guess everyone expects the Williams sisters to beat everyone therefore anytime they lose it's an upset.
Not to beat everyone, but Venus losing from Myskina is surprising. Serena's loss is quite understandable...Amelie's loss is bad too, since she was the best claycourt player of the year.

jbone_0307
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:54 PM
Well they shouldn't have gotten the Special seeding for the tournament so they could have lost in the 4th round. They were the favorites to win the tournament.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:56 PM
Well they shouldn't have gotten the Special seeding for the tournament so they could have lost in the 4th round. They were the favorites to win the tournament.
Like I said in another thread, Venus won't get the special seeding and if she does well at Wimbledonm, beating people she would not have met so early, don't complain.

tennisIlove09
Jun 1st, 2004, 06:58 PM
Myskina over Venus and Elena over Amelie were the only two upsets.

I know Serena is ranked higher, or whatever, BUT considering the matches Capriati-Serena have, it can't be considered an upset...IMO

bandabou
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:12 PM
Hmmm......Jen was BOUND to win one of these days against Serena, so no surprise here....

Martian Willow
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:16 PM
Hmmm......Jen was BOUND to win one of these days against Serena, so no surprise here....

...or two of these days... :)

bandabou
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:20 PM
...or two of these days... :)

Exactly.....

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:22 PM
...or two of these days... :)
The first two days since 7/2001, so it was bound to happen.

jack duckworth
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:24 PM
your only as good as your last result:)

Martian Willow
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:24 PM
...yes...it was bound to happen...remind me again where you said that before it happened...? :)

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:32 PM
your only as good as your last result:)
The she should reach the next round and lose?:confused: (Like at the Italian Open)

jack duckworth
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:33 PM
thats the 2nd stupid thing you have wrote today to me:)

Kart
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:39 PM
Jennifer Capriati is ranked higher than Serena.

Myskina ranked three spots higher than Venus.

Funny that everyone is calling thier losses upsets. I thought an upset was when the higher ranked player lost, but I guess everyone expects the Williams sisters to beat everyone therefore anytime they lose it's an upset.
I thought an upset was when the favourite for the match loses.

Whom did you consider to be favourites for both those matches ?

So you consider these results to be upsets or were you expecting Serena and Venus to lose ?

bandabou
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:43 PM
...yes...it was bound to happen...remind me again where you said that before it happened...? :)

To whom?! I said in the other thread, that I´ve a feeling Serena´s gonna lose.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:44 PM
I thought an upset was when the favourite for the match loses.

Whom did you consider to be favourites for both those matches ?

So you consider these results to be upsets or were you expecting Serena and Venus to lose ?
I never expect Venus Williams to lose, I think she's the best. Same with Steffi, and Bjorn.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:49 PM
Jennifer Capriati is ranked higher than Serena.

Myskina ranked three spots higher than Venus.

Funny that everyone is calling thier losses upsets. I thought an upset was when the higher ranked player lost, but I guess everyone expects the Williams sisters to beat everyone therefore anytime they lose it's an upset.
are you really that stupid that you need it explained to you? Its an upset because the lower SEED beat the HIGHER SEED. Its really that simple. Do you think the winners of the matches today will be getting the ranking points based on what the players are actually ranked or their seeding?

People are calling it an upset because it is idiot.

Anyway good matches for skina and jen. GO VENUS AND SERENA REGROUP AT WIMBY.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 1st, 2004, 07:57 PM
are you really that stupid that you need it explained to you? Its an upset because the lower SEED beat the HIGHER SEED. Its really that simple. Do you think the winners of the matches today will be getting the ranking points based on what the players are actually ranked or their seeding?

People are calling it an upset because it is idiot.

Anyway good matches for skina and jen. GO VENUS AND SERENA REGROUP AT WIMBY.
LOL

now that you have that off your chest...go fix your face....Venus and Serena playes sloppy matches...no need to get your face all contorted...