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tyk101
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:29 PM
I dont recall..

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:30 PM
No

tyk101
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:31 PM
... exactly.

Foot_Fault
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:31 PM
no I think Myskina was the first. Good Second Set. 42 Errors is not going to win u the match, I felt it was a bad day when I saw Venus getting emotional on court.

GOod Win for Myskina though!

Knizzle
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:31 PM
It doesn't matter, she just made 43 UFE's should could make those against anyone. I doubt she was worried about Myskina.

Robbie.
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:32 PM
It doesn't matter, she just made 43 UFE's should could make those against anyone. I doubt she was worried about Myskina.
maybe she should have been :tape:

treufreund
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:03 PM
i am glad nastya exposed venus's much vaunted backhand and her so-called 'great run on clay' she never faced any top ten players so there were several asterisks on that winning streak!

Mase
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:04 PM
Her toughest match was Conchi.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:05 PM
i am glad nastya exposed venus's much vaunted backhand and her so-called 'great run on clay' she never faced any top ten players so there were several asterisks on that winning streak!
She still won two titles which is more than the three semifinalists can say.

And two, possibly all threre, will walk home empty.

tyk101
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:06 PM
the point is she was not really challenged during her winning streak.. and she's not had a win against a top tenner for probably at least a year.

jbone_0307
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:06 PM
With many wins coming from a bunch of no names

Mase
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:07 PM
She still won two titles which is more than the three semifinalists can say.

And two, possibly all threre, will walk home empty. yeah but when she got tested, what happened? I m a fan of Venus but dont dillusion yourself, she was not challenged. Meanwhile Jen has beaten Bovina, Serena 2 times, Myskina. Cmon now. AND had a MP on Momo the favorite coming into RG.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:07 PM
the point is she was not really challenged during her winning streak.. and she's not had a win against a top tenner for probably at least a year.
She'll get her chance at Wimbledon and the summer hardcourts, where she has an excellent record.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:08 PM
yeah but when she got tested, what happened? I m a fan of Venus but dont dillusion yourself, she was not challenged. Meanwhile Jen has beaten Bovina, Serena 2 times, Myskina. Cmon now. AND had a MP on Momo the favorite coming into RG.
No offense, but Myskina was no test. She just played bad like she did last year. I bet if she plays Myskina at Wimbledon like she did Vera last year, she'ss win.

cheo23
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:08 PM
Doesn't Matter..she didn't Win the TRue Clay Court Tournament which is the French Open! Okay!!!!!!! Poor VeNus! I've Been sayin this Forever..she's gotta get a NEW Coach to like instruct her how to hit a forehand correctly and also to Improve that sucky pathetic 2nd SERVe..GET IT TOGETHER VENUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Myskina played a good ASS Match and exposed Venus's weak Game. by the way.I wasn't surprised by the result..I knew Myskina would win the match..also J.Crap over SERENA..Paola Suarez over Maria..and NOw I'm waitin for AMelie to defeat sucky Elena Dementieva..go Amelie!!!!!!!!! Make Me Proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Mase
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:09 PM
Myskina is top 5. How is she not a test?

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:10 PM
Myskina is top 5. How is she not a test?
She's top 5 for now.

She has quite a bit to defend after Wimbledon.

If she is the real deal, then she'd better win this Grand Slam.

treufreund
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:16 PM
Myskina is top 5. How is she not a test?
myskina had 4 titles last year, wins over clijsters and justine and is ranked HIGHER than Venus! how is she not a challenge? she is, on paper, at least, the favorite. and her game is very clever like Hingis's. She is consistently underrated but i think more and more people will appreciate her game and her beauty too. :hearts:

tenn_ace
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:21 PM
No offense, but Myskina was no test. She just played bad like she did last year. I bet if she plays Myskina at Wimbledon like she did Vera last year, she'ss win.
if we listen to you, nobody is. and yet, Venus was on a title drought for more than a year.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:24 PM
if we listen to you, nobody is. and yet, Venus was on a title drought for more than a year.
Venus was injured for six months, so I guess you want her win when she isn't even playing?

The fact is, since 1997, I believe, she has won at least one title. Can the same be said for many other players, including Myskina?

tenn_ace
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:26 PM
Venus was injured for six months, so I guess you want her win when she isn't even playing?

The fact is, since 1997, I believe, she has won at least one title. Can the same be said for many other players, including Myskina?

those times are gone. get used to it, baby. chao.

LiliaLee-Frazier
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:27 PM
It doesn't matter, she just made 43 UFE's should could make those against anyone. "she just made errors " I doubt she was worried about Myskina. Well..yeah...thats a VERY big part of tennis :lol:

tennisIlove09
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:28 PM
those times are gone. get used to it, baby. chao.
How, exactly, is it gone? She has more titles then Myskina this year. She has more titles then Serena this year.

Greenout
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:28 PM
This is why I don't like comments like what John Barrett said during the
Serena -vs- Jenn match. He said "She's the best player in the world,
regardless of what's happening. If she played more she would be ranked
#1". Now what kind of stupid comment is that? This Myskina and Jenn
wins proves that the tour top 10 aren't fodder- they are the current tour
standard. If you haven't played for 8 months you can't and shouldn't be
rated above the current tour top 5. It's demeaning and ridiculous.

Myskina is not overated. She is exactly where she is, and now have
proven all the stinkers wrong.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:29 PM
those times are gone. get used to it, baby. chao.
Get used to what?

YOU want the times to be over and many thought they were and then Venus wins two titles on what is considered her worst surface. Like it or not ,she is still a contender for any title. Get used to that, baby.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:30 PM
How, exactly, is it gone? She has more titles then Myskina this year. She has more titles then Serena this year.
Exactly.

And she still has more GS titles than Myskina.

Stamp Paid
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:35 PM
How, exactly, is it gone? She has more titles then Myskina this year. She has more titles then Serena this year.
TIL09, "Venus has more titles than Myskina" was sufficient enough to prove your point man!

best best better
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:38 PM
Venus not playing a #10 player on her clay run was not her fault. Having said that, Venus has not been the 'favourite' going into a GS since Wimbledon 2002. That's a long time.

Secondary point, up until a couple of hours ago Myskina's ranking WAS inflated, I'm sorry but it was. She had done nothing at GS level and does not have that competitive record against the Top Ten. We'll see where she goes from here...

Vass22
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:38 PM
She's top 5 for now.

She has quite a bit to defend after Wimbledon.

If she is the real deal, then she'd better win this Grand Slam.
For now.... She will move to the No 4 position in the world after this tournament , is that not proof to you?
Yeaha, yeah she's fluking her way there, her opponents suck when she plays them, but that doesn't change anything. She's always there to take advantage and she does to the fullest. I hate this scoffs about her teath, but she can realy suck the blood out of her opponents nowadays.

lizchris
Jun 1st, 2004, 04:42 PM
For now.... She will move to the No 4 position in the world after this tournament , is that not proof to you?
Yeaha, yeah she's fluking her way there, her opponents suck when she plays them, but that doesn't change anything. She's always there to take advantage and she does to the fullest. I hate this scoffs about her teath, but she can realy suck the blood out of her opponents nowadays.
I don't care about her teeth.

I just want to see where she is at the end of October and I bet you, with Kim, Justine, Seren and Venus in the mix, she won't be in the top 4.