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Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 18th, 2004, 03:32 PM
hey does anyone here know how to play a double handed forehand for a right-hander?

I'm interested in the mechanics of that particular shot.

Seen Monica do it a couple of times but it's confusing coz she's a leftie.
Seem like the changing the grip for double-handers on both sides seem difficult too..

SelesFan70
May 18th, 2004, 03:38 PM
I have a 2-handed forehand, and I'm right-handed. :D I actually use the same grips for my forehand and backhand...it just makes it easier for me. My shots are very flat with even a little underspin on them. :D Everyone is different, but just do what feels right for you. Also, learn how to hit a 1-hander, too. You will need it! You may want to watch Jan-Michael Gambill or Fabrice Santoro play if you ever get the chance. I think Anca Barna may have a 2-handed forehand, but I'm not 100% sure.

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 18th, 2004, 03:41 PM
i see.. so you don't change grips at all..
Closed or open stance?

SelesFan70
May 18th, 2004, 03:47 PM
i see.. so you don't change grips at all..
Closed or open stance?

Usually open-stance because I'm always late to the ball :lol: But if I'm in position, it's impossible to tell on my forehand where I'm going with it! :devil:

jrm
May 18th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Question: if you have double-handed F/B which hand should be higer?

SelesFan70
May 18th, 2004, 06:11 PM
Your dominant arm should be the lower one.

alfajeffster
May 18th, 2004, 07:06 PM
There are several ways to do this, and several players you can watch in order to choose what works best for you. To avoid confusion, first and foremost, make the distinction between grip changes, racquet face changes, and actually changing hands. I'll give you an example that may work for you:

Monica Seles hits with her left hand on the bottom, or butt of the racquet handle on both shots, as she is a natural left-hander. She does not change or switch her hands- the left hand is always on the bottom on both sides. What she does do, however, is rotate her grips to semi-western on both shots, which means she rotates the racquet face clockwise on her two-handed forehand, and counter-clockwise on her two-handed backhand, so that the face of the racquet literally covers the ball as it bounces on the rise on both sides. This is why she's so hard to read- she takes the ball earlier and hits with a shorter backwsing than almost anyone else out there- incredible talent when you think about it.

Jean Michael Gambill is a right-hander. His two-handed shots are very different from Seles. His right hand is on the bottom (butt) of the handle on both sides, however, he actually gets lower to the ground and brushes up the back of the ball much more, and as a result has more topspin on both sides than you normally see from Monica. His groundies on both sides are much longer strokes too, and it's one of the reasons he hasn't risen higher in the rankings, because when players start to read his patterns, they start to hit behind him easier because it takes him longer to prepare and execute than Monica.

Monica Seles is the supreme two-hander on both sides in the history of our sport. No one (in my opinion) has ever done it better, and probably never will. As a rightie learning from watching a leftie- it's not impossible- just takes more concentration- another Seles hallmark. Good luck- have fun with it!

esquímaux
May 19th, 2004, 05:19 AM
Another male player hitting doubled handed off both sides is the lefty Julian Knowle from Austria :):

http://www.gotennis.com/Photos/2004-05-18T141852Z_01_STP06D_RTRIDSP_2_SPORT-TENNIS.jpg


Personally, I find the one handed forehand more satisfying in terms of power and direction control. I've experimented with a 2-handed forehand and I have zilch control with it :p, but it is quite flat and powerful...great for driving down the middle :drool: Also, it seemed easier when using my 28-inch racquet...switching back to 27 inches and trying a 2-handed forehand wasn't working AT ALL :silly: My best advise is to have fun with it :D CHEERS! :yeah:

tennisIlove09
May 19th, 2004, 05:22 AM
I have a question: why do you want a two handed forehand? Do you feel like you can hit the ball harder? It limits your reach

Stefwhit
May 19th, 2004, 05:36 AM
Your dominant arm should be the lower one.
Hey.... I've got a two-handed forehand and it's my most natural shot. I'm right handed and my right hand (which is my dominate hand,) is the hand that is the one placed above my left hand. I couldn't immagine hitting the shot any other way, that would be totally un-natural to have it any other way (wouldn't it??), I guess it depends on the player. I'm a die hard Steffi fan but as a little kid it just felt right so I went the route of Monica. FYI... I slice my backhand...(steffi).

My personal strenghts with two hands: Power, AWESOME InSide-Out forehand, slice forehand drop-shot, disguise on my shots (opponents can't tell where I'm going a lot of the time)

Weaknesses for me: slight lack of reach, I can't play the net at all- two hands at the net equals disaster, when returning the serve I have issues switching my grip from two hands on the forehand to my back hand slice...

esquímaux
May 19th, 2004, 05:39 AM
Hey.... I've got a two-handed forehand and it's my most natural shot. I'm right handed and my right hand (which is my dominate hand,) is the hand that is the one placed above my left hand. I couldn't immagine hitting the shot any other way, that would be totally un-natural to have it any other way (wouldn't it??), I guess it depends on the player. I'm a die hard Steffi fan but as a little kid it just felt right so I went the route of Monica. FYI... I slice my backhand...(steffi).

My personal strenghts with two hands: Power, AWESOME InSide-Out forehand, slice forehand drop-shot, disguise on my shots (opponents can't tell where I'm going a lot of the time)

Weaknesses for me: slight lack of reach, I can't play the net at all- two hands at the net equals disaster, when returning the serve I have issues switching my grip from two hands on the forehand to my back hand slice...
actually your "forehand" is a lefty 2-handed backhand ;)

slice
May 19th, 2004, 08:25 AM
hey yeh i play that way 2 :p except my forehand grip is that of a left-handed backhand grip so it probably looks kinda weird, lol. go to pics of u playing tennis on the bottom of the second page if u wana c me hit it :)

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 19th, 2004, 08:33 AM
thanks for the advice and pics guys =)

AaronJoyB
May 19th, 2004, 10:32 AM
Maria Sanchez Lorenzo has a double handed forehand too

esquímaux
May 19th, 2004, 01:47 PM
For Sanchez-Lorenzo pics:

http://editorial.****************/source/CFW/imageResults.aspx?s=ImagesSearchState|0|15|0|1|||0 |0|0|0|2|maria+antonia+sanchez+lorenzo&p=2

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 19th, 2004, 03:47 PM
i sanchez lorenzo a leftie or a right-handed player?

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 19th, 2004, 03:49 PM
i noticed from the pics that lorenzo serves using right hand,

but for her forehand, her left hand is at the bottom of the racquet, which is different from what some of you described the double handed forehand to be..

00seles04
May 19th, 2004, 08:06 PM
I've tried playing with two handed forehand both ways (right hand at bottom/left hand at bottom). Strangely enough, I feel more natural with my right hand (dominant) on top of my left hand (which is the "lefty" way of doing it). The left hand just supports it and helps with the angled shots but the right hand feels like it's providing more of the power and it's farther away from the butt of the racquet, which to me contributes to you being able to produce the extra power because it is in an extended position.

This is crazy because I have a much harder time finding my rythym hitting a 2 handed backhand (with right hand on butt) than doing the 2 handed forehand. My normal strokes are one handed on both wings, though.

You might try to kinda hold a racquet, swing it several times, and see what feels best. You will notice a marked difference if you try it other ways. My advice is that don't pay too much attention to what others have done, although they are good models. Do what feels right for you. What works for Monica or Gambill or anyone else might not work for you. Find the right balance and stick with it.

SelesFan70
May 20th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Remember...Monica is left-handed....but no one hits a better 2-handed forehand in my opinion...well, besides me of course! :angel:

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 20th, 2004, 06:10 PM
Ok..i try having the left hand at the bottom of the racquet for my double-h fh too..

i think having the right hand at the bottom of the racquet for a double h-fh requires lotsa shoulder rotation and back rotation to transfer energy into the ball...is that right?

SelesFan70
May 20th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Ok..i try having the left hand at the bottom of the racquet for my double-h fh too..

i think having the right hand at the bottom of the racquet for a double h-fh requires lotsa shoulder rotation and back rotation to transfer energy into the ball...is that right?


If you are right-handed, that's the hand that should be on the bottom on a 2-handed forehand. Otherwise, you are hitting a left-handed backhand.

Why is this so confusing to you? I bet you are 10 years old, right? :lol: