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Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 03:18 PM
Hi, I am deliberately picking on you tennis buffs, but as a baseball player in a tennis family I always thought that baseball is a more demanding game.

Ask Agassi or the Williams sisters to serve with runners on base is an entirely different matter. The ball and the action is always in front of you in tennis. It does not appear to require much in the way of vigilance, just concentration.

In baseball, you have to constantly adjust with little feedback, because there are is much less action in the game. In tennis, you can show up drunk and your opponent can whip you into shape until you are playing well. In tennis, you win a point, you lose a point. You are on your own in baseball--your intensity is a purely private matter. Little in the way of give and take from your opponent.

I'll be at the French Open this year, so proving me wrong might help me enjoy it more.

SpikeyAidanm
May 15th, 2004, 03:20 PM
it requires hand eye co-ordination in particular, the ball is way smaller than basketball.

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 03:25 PM
You're joking, right? Try hitting a baseball at 95 mph when the guy has a curve or a slider as well--and of course if he hits you in the head with it, you're dead--

Ping pong and badminton also take hand eye, but nothing requires more than hitting...

Experimentee
May 15th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Tennis requires more running, and changing direction quickly. It also requires strength and accuracy, unlike baseball where the aim is just to hit it as far out as possible.

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 03:43 PM
OK for running and changing direction. But the ball is always in motion. You need to be patient in baseball, and then react quickly. You have the time to daydream in baseball, but you can't. In tennis it because a mere athletic match. But that's just my opinion as a baseball player.

sartrista7
May 15th, 2004, 03:47 PM
You are on your own in baseball--your intensity is a purely private matter.

If you think you're "on your own" in baseball - a TEAM SPORT, for chrissakes - how much more on your own would you be in tennis, an individual sport?

In baseball... there are other people on your side actively contributing towards the final result. In tennis... it's all down to you, and even your coach isn't allowed to communicate with you. That's as intense as it gets, frankly.

Martian Willow
May 15th, 2004, 03:49 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: ...@ baseball... :)

sartrista7
May 15th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Also, baseball = rounders. Over here that's what primary school girls play. I don't think anyone plays it after the age of 11. It certainly isn't a proper sport.

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 03:53 PM
You're pretty much on your own, with little preparation, when you step into the batter's box or on the pitcher's mound, or alone out there in center field. But preparing for errors that other people can make, now that is composure. You can't control that.

Experimentee
May 15th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Also, baseball = rounders. Over here that's what primary school girls play. I don't think anyone plays it after the age of 11. It certainly isn't a proper sport.

Thats the same with in Australia. No one plays anything like baseball over the age of primary school :lol:

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 04:00 PM
jujupassion - I appreciate the lively debate but the physical preparation involved in both sports is a given except to say that there is no way a pitcher could play the next day. Pitching is just too strenous an activity. Sure technique is an issue in both sports but no vigilance is required in tennis.

esquímaux
May 15th, 2004, 04:01 PM
If you think you're "on your own" in baseball - a TEAM SPORT, for chrissakes - how much more on your own would you be in tennis, an individual sport?

In baseball... there are other people on your side actively contributing towards the final result. In tennis... it's all down to you, and even your coach isn't allowed to communicate with you. That's as intense as it gets, frankly.


Good post! End of thread. ;)

Rtael
May 15th, 2004, 04:02 PM
So why are you on a tennis board? :scratch:

Eurotennisfan
May 15th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Hi, I am deliberately picking on you tennis buffs, but as a baseball player in a tennis family I always thought that baseball is a more demanding game.

Ask Agassi or the Williams sisters to serve with runners on base is an entirely different matter. The ball and the action is always in front of you in tennis. It does not appear to require much in the way of vigilance, just concentration.

In baseball, you have to constantly adjust with little feedback, because there are is much less action in the game. In tennis, you can show up drunk and your opponent can whip you into shape until you are playing well. In tennis, you win a point, you lose a point. You are on your own in baseball--your intensity is a purely private matter. Little in the way of give and take from your opponent.

I'll be at the French Open this year, so proving me wrong might help me enjoy it more.

Have you ever tried playing tennis? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I think the reason that tennis is not as popular as the other sports (like baseball) is just because it is so hard to learn while basketball and baseball are things that can more or less be self-taught (very few baseball players ever take private lessons). While no sport is "easy" I can tell you that tennis requires much more time and energy than baseball (having played both at a relatively high level).

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 04:07 PM
Also, baseball = rounders. Over here that's what primary school girls play. I don't think anyone plays it after the age of 11. It certainly isn't a proper sport.

The British definition of a sport is standing around, CRICKET :haha: :haha:

fammmmedspin
May 15th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Also, baseball = rounders. Over here that's what primary school girls play. I don't think anyone plays it after the age of 11. It certainly isn't a proper sport.
I thought it but was too polite to point it out.:) You might add that whilst the average 9 year old can play rounders (or cricket) very few people can play tennis at all.

Martian Willow
May 15th, 2004, 04:10 PM
The British definition of a sport is standing around, CRICKET :haha: :haha:

...I don't think you'll find many British people on this board (or below the age of 55 anywhere else) trying to tell you cricket is 'more demanding' than tennis... :)

sartrista7
May 15th, 2004, 04:10 PM
The British definition of a sport is standing around, CRICKET :haha: :haha:

Cricket sucks as a sport too. The point of cricket isn't the SPORT, it's the sitting around in the park during the summer getting a tan and drinking beer.

Martian Willow
May 15th, 2004, 04:11 PM
...see...? :lol:

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Have you ever tried playing tennis? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I think the reason that tennis is not as popular as the other sports (like baseball) is just because it is so hard to learn while basketball and baseball are things that can more or less be self-taught (very few baseball players ever take private lessons). While no sport is "easy" I can tell you that tennis requires much more time and energy than baseball (having played both at a relatively high level).

Im a good tennis player and very much enjoy the game and am going to Roland Garros this year, its just that coming from the stress of baseball, such an unpredictable game it is difficult for me to appreciate tennis. But ill be at the french open and will try to put aside my chauvanism.

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Who exactly is the pitcher (what do they do)? And I agree with Sartrista7, no one in Britain (or many other countries in the world) play Baseball, aka rounders, after they have left primary school! And anyway, the only reason why tennis players can play the next day is because they are really fit! These Pitchers really need to work on their fitness levels ( cardio-vascular system) :lol:

The pitcher is the mate that throws the ball starting play. We have to compare what is comparable: professional baseball and professional tennis. women arent even allowed to play professional baseball. And furthermore a pitchers arm goes into muscle failure after 80 or so pitches, regardless of his physical condition. Having played both games I can tell you that a serve doesnt take anything out of you compared to throwing a baseball.

sartrista7
May 15th, 2004, 04:24 PM
The pitcher is the mate that throws the ball starting play. We have to compare what is comparable: professional baseball and professional tennis. women arent even allowed to play professional baseball. And furthermore a pitchers arm goes into muscle failure after 80 or so pitches, regardless of his physical condition. Having played both games I can tell you that a serve doesnt take anything out of you compared to throwing a baseball.

But then, the pitcher isn't expected to engage in a potentially exhausting rally during which they not only have to run around retrieving the ball, keeping it in the court and out-manoeuvring their opponent, but also out-think the other player with each shot...

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 04:26 PM
if they hit the ball at his head the pitcher is dead and indeed does not need to worry about engaging in a potentially exhausting rally .....

esquímaux
May 15th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Cricket sucks as a sport too. The point of cricket isn't the SPORT, it's the sitting around in the park during the summer getting a tan and drinking beer.Yeah baby! :drink: Then again, you can work up a good tan playing tennis...I wouldn't suggest drinking beer on changeovers though :unsure:

Experimentee
May 15th, 2004, 05:34 PM
The pitcher is the mate that throws the ball starting play. We have to compare what is comparable: professional baseball and professional tennis. women arent even allowed to play professional baseball. And furthermore a pitchers arm goes into muscle failure after 80 or so pitches, regardless of his physical condition. Having played both games I can tell you that a serve doesnt take anything out of you compared to throwing a baseball.

Many women play softball, which is pretty much the same as baseball. I'm pretty sure women do play baseball though, there was a women's baseball league even during WW2. It was portrayed in the movie A League Of Their Own.

TheBoiledEgg
May 15th, 2004, 05:44 PM
baseball :lol: they even given gloves to catch with :haha:
and they might pitch the ball at your head.

In cricket, they DO aim for your head,
and they dont have gloves to catch with.

you try playing cricket, its alot tougher than baseball.

and baseball does = rounders :tape:

propi
May 15th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Cricket sucks as a sport too. The point of cricket isn't the SPORT, it's the sitting around in the park during the summer getting a tan and drinking beer.
Finally someone explained me that weird sport!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Thanks :yeah: I think I will play lots of cricket this spring :D

decemberlove
May 15th, 2004, 05:50 PM
espn doesnt seem to agree with you, and most of the list seems biased to mainly american sports ...

From 10 to 1...

10) Soccer
09) Baseball/Softball
08) Gymnastics
07) Tennis
06) Martial Arts
05) Wrestling
04) Basketball
03) Football
02) Ice Hockey
01) Boxing

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

thelittlestelf
May 15th, 2004, 05:51 PM
The biggest difference between Baseball and Tennis is that with Baseball you are assigned a zone and a job, but with Tennis you must be prepared for everything. In tennis, in order to be good you can't just specialize in one shot, you need to have ALL of them. While I can't say which is harder because I've never really played baseball compedatively, I can say that tennis takes more patience and more time to learn.

ToeTag
May 15th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Many women play softball, which is pretty much the same as baseball. I'm pretty sure women do play baseball though, there was a women's baseball league even during WW2. It was portrayed in the movie A League Of Their Own.
Women and Baseball (http://dmoz.org/Sports/Baseball/Women/) ..

PatM04
May 15th, 2004, 06:08 PM
Pointless thread.

davenport_1
May 15th, 2004, 06:15 PM
In, baseball you spend more time standing there on a base, in the outfield, or in the dugout than actually running

Haywood
May 15th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Well I see that I managed to assist you all in being tennis fans. Still, I've played both games at a decent level, and to me the stresses of baseball, at least as a pitcher, are unrivaled. But I like both sports. But cricket, now really.....