PDA

View Full Version : Help me! Question about 1996 end of year rankings or is it the race to championship?


New
May 15th, 2004, 11:51 AM
I borrowed this book all about the best in sports and I saw something stunning!!!!

The year end ranking of 1996!!!

1. Steffi Graf
2. Monica Seles
3. Jana Novotna
4. Lindsay Davenport
5. Martina Hingis
6. Stephanie de Ville
7. Tamarine Tanasugarn
8. Anke Huber
9. Conchita Martinez
10. Julie Halard-Decugis

Tammy at number 7????!!!! I was so shocked and I looked at it again and again, it was there!!! the rest of the years seemed reasonable but Tammy being in the top 10 in 1996 sound incredible. However, something hit me.

Maybe this wasn't the end of the year rankings, but rather the race to the championships. But could anyone verify this for me please??? thanks!!!! :bounce:

Kart
May 15th, 2004, 11:59 AM
It's not correct I'm afraid.

http://www.wtatour.com/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=/global/Pdfs/rankings/pastyears/Singles_Numeric_1996.pdf

Year end rankings 1996:

1. Steffi Graf
2. Monica Seles
3. ASV
4. Conchita Martinez
5. Jana Novotna
6. Martina Hingis
7. Anke Huber
8. Iva Majoli
9. Lindsay Davenport
10. Irina Spirlea

75. Tamarine Tanasugarn

hingis-seles
May 15th, 2004, 12:02 PM
Didn't Martina Hingis end 1996 at #4 after reaching the Chase finals. I remember that, because she was seeded #4 at the 1997 Australian Open. Aranxta was #2 and Steffi #1 and Conchita #3. I know that would have been possible anyways, with the withdrawl of Monica and Novotna not playing, but I seem to remember her finishing #4....

SpikeyAidanm
May 15th, 2004, 12:03 PM
hey hingis-seles :wavey:

New
May 15th, 2004, 12:11 PM
but how about the race??? i know tammy was 75 in 1996!!! but what about the race rankings?

Kart
May 15th, 2004, 12:12 PM
Didn't Martina Hingis end 1996 at #4 after reaching the Chase finals. I remember that, because she was seeded #4 at the 1997 Australian Open. Aranxta was #2 and Steffi #1 and Conchita #3. I know that would have been possible anyways, with the withdrawl of Monica and Novotna not playing, but I seem to remember her finishing #4....
I think Novotna must just have edged her by winning three consecutive tournaments in a row at the end of the year. Conchita I think was generally more consistent throughout the whole year as well - Martina's results only really took off at the end of the year from what I remember (aside from beating Gaby in Tokyo :mad: and the Rome final.)

Greenout
May 15th, 2004, 12:30 PM
It's an error. It's suppose to be Kimiko Date's name. What they did is
because she didn't play the final events in Europe, they just knocked
her name out because she officially retired in Japan, and not
at a tour event!

morbidangle
May 15th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Hingis was #6 at the end of the year, she was seeded 4th at the AO because Monica and Jana were not playing.

moby
May 15th, 2004, 12:41 PM
i'm pretty sure martina ended 96 at no. 4???

Pureracket
May 15th, 2004, 12:42 PM
I borrowed this book all about the best in sports and I saw something stunning!!!!

The year end ranking of 1996!!!

1. Steffi Graf
2. Monica Seles
3. Jana Novotna
4. Lindsay Davenport
5. Martina Hingis
6. Stephanie de Ville
7. Tamarine Tanasugarn
8. Anke Huber
9. Conchita Martinez
10. Julie Halard-Decugis

Tammy at number 7????!!!! I was so shocked and I looked at it again and again, it was there!!! the rest of the years seemed reasonable but Tammy being in the top 10 in 1996 sound incredible. However, something hit me.

Maybe this wasn't the end of the year rankings, but rather the race to the championships. But could anyone verify this for me please??? thanks!!!! :bounce:Stephanie de Ville @ #6 didn't make you kinda suspicious, eh?

justine&coria
May 15th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Tammy at number 7????!!!! I was so shocked and I looked at it again and again, it was there!!! the rest of the years seemed reasonable but Tammy being in the top 10 in 1996 sound incredible.

75. Tamarine Tanasugarn
Sorry, but it makes me so laugh ! :lol: :tape:

anabel
May 15th, 2004, 01:01 PM
lmao @ De ville.. i only saw a match of her in my life and it was to see her get injured and retire in aus open

New
May 15th, 2004, 01:03 PM
The ones posted are the year end rankings...which are the entry system!!!!

HOW ABOUT THE RACE???? can anyone provide the rankings for that?

Andrew.
May 15th, 2004, 01:22 PM
The ones posted are the year end rankings...which are the entry system!!!!

HOW ABOUT THE RACE???? can anyone provide the rankings for that?
The race at the end of every year is the same as the year end rankings.

fammmmedspin
May 15th, 2004, 01:45 PM
but how about the race??? i know tammy was 75 in 1996!!! but what about the race rankings?
By the end of the year the race is over and they would be the same.

If you want to go deeper you have to decide whether the race is to the end of the year or as it says a race to get into the end of year chmpionships which means it ended earlier. In the sense that the race is to the end of year champs, your score after the cut-out date for qualifying for the championships wouldn't actually be in the race total but if you were ranked 75 it wouldn't change anything as no one near you in the rankings would get to the championships and get points. if you play somewhere else at the very end of the season there is a logical problem if the race ended before that so most people would assume the race went on to the end of the year and would therefore be the same as the end of the year rankings.

New_balls_please
May 15th, 2004, 01:51 PM
ASV :hearts:

XaDavK_Kapri
May 15th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Maybe it was the race to the champs from the beginning of the year that's all. Tammy probably had a good result in a pre-AO event and that's what propelled her in the top10 of the race. I don't get why Graf could be number one, though.. And I just checked and it's impossible. Tammy did not play in 1996 until June in Birmingham, so it's probably just a mistake.

geewhiz
May 15th, 2004, 02:13 PM
I'm not sure the WTA did proper Race rankings back in 1996. Between 1996 and 1997 the way the rankings worked changed, so what you may have is a list someone made to show how people would be ranked under different systems, and the author of the book has mistakenly taken this to be the true end-of-year rankings.

Stephanie De Ville was ranked down in the 70s in the 1996 end-of-year rankings.

Eurotennisfan
May 15th, 2004, 02:19 PM
And here are 1999's year end rankings

1.Alexandra Stevenson
2.Jelena Dokic
3.Anna Kournikova
4.Cara Black
5.Nicole Pratt
6.Samantha Reeves
7. VIRGINIE RAZZANO
8.Rita Kuti Kis
9. Alina Jidkova
10. ELS CALLENS

New
May 15th, 2004, 02:47 PM
thanks guys!!!

i knew it was weird but i wanted to find an explaination.... after all mistake like that is weird... i mean there are hundreds of players...why is she of all players, taken from 75 to be placed at #7? What a dumb typo!!!

And she din really peak till a few years later....

irma
May 15th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Martina was number 4 on the old rankings and dropped to 6 in the new rankings.

morbidangle
May 15th, 2004, 03:46 PM
RANK NAME COUNTRY POINTS POINTS TRNS
1 GRAF, STEFFI GER 4649.0000 1567.0 11
2 SELES, MONICA USA 4056.1083 1046.1 13
3 SANCHEZ VICARIO, ARANTX ESP 3668.1871 905.8 18
4 MARTINEZ, CONCHITA ESP 3180.9710 758.3 18
5 NOVOTNA, JANA CZE 3087.9412 926.0 16
6 HINGIS, MARTINA SUI 3051.0000 1162.0 17
7 HUBER, ANKE GER 2689.5388 693.6 18
8 MAJOLI, IVA CRO 2647.7820 761.3 18
9 DAVENPORT, LINDSAY USA 2357.0667 798.0 17
10 SPIRLEA, IRINA ROM 1748.7950 578.6 21

- L i n a -
May 15th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Strange... the people who wrote that book must have been on something.

The only thing I can think of is that could possibly be mentioning who they think would be an up-and-coming player...

Although, de Ville only had 1 decent tournament in her entire career.

Pureracket
May 15th, 2004, 05:00 PM
And here are 1999's year end rankings

1.Alexandra Stevenson
2.Jelena Dokic
3.Anna Kournikova
4.Cara Black
5.Nicole Pratt
6.Samantha Reeves
7. VIRGINIE RAZZANO
8.Rita Kuti Kis
9. Alina Jidkova
10. ELS CALLENSRazzano looks out of place here.

davenport_1
May 15th, 2004, 05:21 PM
DeVille and Tunasugarn? LOL

Spirlea's Bump
May 15th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I borrowed this book all about the best in sports and I saw something stunning!!!!

The year end ranking of 1996!!!

1. Steffi Graf
2. Monica Seles
3. Jana Novotna
4. Lindsay Davenport
5. Martina Hingis
6. Stephanie de Ville
7. Tamarine Tanasugarn
8. Anke Huber
9. Conchita Martinez
10. Julie Halard-Decugis

Tammy at number 7????!!!! I was so shocked and I looked at it again and again, it was there!!! the rest of the years seemed reasonable but Tammy being in the top 10 in 1996 sound incredible. However, something hit me.

Maybe this wasn't the end of the year rankings, but rather the race to the championships. But could anyone verify this for me please??? thanks!!!! :bounce:

Are you retarded?

Zummi
May 15th, 2004, 05:51 PM
The list posted by "New" was the 1996 best Win/Loss record.

The year-end Top 50 (under the existing ranking system) was like this:

1. Steffi Graf
2= Monica Seles
2= Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario
3. Jana Novotna
4. Martina Hingis
5. Conchita Martinez
6. Anke Huber
7. Iva Majoli
8. Kimiko Date
9. Lindsay Davenport
10. Barbara Paulus
11. Irina Spirlea
12. Chanda Rubin
13. Brenda Schultz-McCarthy
14. Mary Joe Fernandez
15. Julie Halard-Decugis
16. Karina Habsudova
17. Amanda Coetzer
18. Magdalena Maleeva
19. Judith Wiesner
20. Mary Pierce
21. Sabine Appelmans
22. Meredith McGrath
23. Elena Likhovtseva
24. Jennifer Capriati
25. Ruxandra Dragomir
26. Yayuk Basuki
27. Helena Sukova
28. Kimberly Po
29. Amy Frazier
30. Nathalie Tauziat
31. Linda Wild
32. Ai Sugiyama
33. Lisa Raymond
34. Naoko Sawamatsu
35. Shi-Ting Wang
36. Katarina Studenikova
37. Laurence Courtois
38. Barbara Schett
39. Henrieta Nagyova
40. Sandrine Testud
41. Silvia Farina
42. Sabine Hack
43. Florencia Labat
44. Asa Carlsson
45. Els Callens
46. Gloria Pizzichini
47. Dominique Van Roost
48. Karin Kschwendt
49. Mana Endo
50. Naoko Kijimuta
...
...
...
53. Natasha Zvereva
56. Gabriela Sabatini
57. Patty Schnyder
58. Anna Kournikova
59. Paola Suarez
78. Tamarine Tanasugarn
80. Lori McNeil
90. Dally Randriantefy
98. Virginia Ruano Pascual
101. Gigi Fernandez
106. Rennae Stubbs
110. Emmanuelle Gagliardi
117. Maria Antonia Sanchez Lorenzo
122. Corina Morariu
124. Fabiola Zuluaga
148. Kristina Brandi
149. Anna Smashnova
159. Amelie Mauresmo
165. Andrea Temesvari
170. Maria Alejandra Vento
177. Pam Shriver
187. Meghann Shaughnessy

The last week of the year, the rankings changed to reflect the non-divisor ranking system that was used in 1997.