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Jakeev
May 14th, 2004, 10:57 AM
As I am reading thread about Schiavone and Farina-Elia doing rather well at the Italian Open, it was making me wonder why Italy has never become a dominant nation in the sport.

A lot of nations have had its up and downs. Australia and England have struggled to recapture its old glory days and Russia is just becoming a major tennis factor.

But Italy always has seemed to be in the mix of the tennis world for several decades, even though it has not dominated the tennis scene.

So why hasn't Italy been a bigger factor in the tennis world even though it always seems to produce several players that do well enough to get at least into the top 100?

My only real conclusion is that there are not enough all-court players, like Schiavone and Farina-Elia, that can perform well outside clay and make it into the top 20.

But on the dirt, most of the the better players do rather well; thus, we see the flurry of Italian women in the top 100-150.

So how bout it then? Are there any rising Italian sensations ready to challenge the top ten? Or is the nation going to just continue to produce somewhat better-than-average players just happy enough to find moderate success on tour?

controlfreak
May 14th, 2004, 11:40 AM
I fully expect that in my lifetime, I will see an Italian woman in the top 10.

Rothes
May 14th, 2004, 12:06 PM
Tennis Centers in Roma, Venice and Milan are based on Clay, with the exception of Hardcourt Courts in Rome, Just like any other Country, they are based on a major Court, Japan is based within Indoors/Carper, England and the Glorious Glass, France and Spain on Clay.

The Italy Sports Federation has never given Tennis major funding, Not before Athletics, Cycling, Basketball etc. I wouldn't know that would play a contribution much, seeing as Italy has a large part to play in the leadup to the French Open, Tennis is certinaly popular in Italy, but just not on the priority within Funding.

If you want to go through some players...

Silvia, Francesca and Rita have been great Ambassadors to Italian Tennis but there not "Prodigies" Silvia and Francesca at their part would be considered in their peak, They continue to produce results and represent Italy in Tennis. Rita of late seems to be not preforming up to her standards. They are 32, 24, 29 Respectivley.

Flavia is 22, and been climbing the rankings over the year, she can certinaly hold The Italian Top Ranking, Young and Somewhat Experienced, but she is defintly not a Junior. Somewhat in the "wop-wops" for several years. Same with Maria Santalego, 23 and showing signs of moving up.

Maria-E-Camerin, 23 Years old, A Late Bloomer and wasn't really known until some good results in the early parts of the Clay Court.

Tathiana Garbin, 27 and enjoys floating around the latter part of the top 100.

Roberta Vinci-21 Is defintly someone to look out for in the Future, Has excellent Doubles Results and is showing signs of Strength in the Singles Rankings.

Adriana and Antolnella are around 28, Fallen of the Singles and don't seem to be any threat to Italian Singles.

Nathalie Veirin 22 Is a Middle Teir player, Has pushed the likes of Obziler to 3 Sets and Fokina and Has had a win over Panetta.

Giulia Casoni is 26ish and plays the majority of the time on the Challengers, has a SF in 25K Challenger, Defintly not a contender ;)

Alice Canepi, Berta Briante, Valentina Sassi, Rita D, Francesca Lubiani, Elisa all no Threats, and enjoy Playing the Challengers.

Watch Out for Emily Stellato 22, She pushed Kirsten to 3 Sets.

Probably the Biggest Name is Romina Oprandi, She was a defect from Switzerland, where she opted to play for Italia :( Shes 18 and has had 2 SF and a F in 10 K Events.

There is a few other players, but in general I hope that is Satisfactory. :)

So remember...Romina :D

Jakeev
May 14th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Tennis Centers in Roma, Venice and Milan are based on Clay, with the exception of Hardcourt Courts in Rome, Just like any other Country, they are based on a major Court, Japan is based within Indoors/Carper, England and the Glorious Glass, France and Spain on Clay.

The Italy Sports Federation has never given Tennis major funding, Not before Athletics, Cycling, Basketball etc. I wouldn't know that would play a contribution much, seeing as Italy has a large part to play in the leadup to the French Open, Tennis is certinaly popular in Italy, but just not on the priority within Funding.

If you want to go through some players...

Silvia, Francesca and Rita have been great Ambassadors to Italian Tennis but there not "Prodigies" Silvia and Francesca at their part would be considered in their peak, They continue to produce results and represent Italy in Tennis. Rita of late seems to be not preforming up to her standards. They are 32, 24, 29 Respectivley.

Flavia is 22, and been climbing the rankings over the year, she can certinaly hold The Italian Top Ranking, Young and Somewhat Experienced, but she is defintly not a Junior. Somewhat in the "wop-wops" for several years. Same with Maria Santalego, 23 and showing signs of moving up.

Maria-E-Camerin, 23 Years old, A Late Bloomer and wasn't really known until some good results in the early parts of the Clay Court.

Tathiana Garbin, 27 and enjoys floating around the latter part of the top 100.

Roberta Vinci-21 Is defintly someone to look out for in the Future, Has excellent Doubles Results and is showing signs of Strength in the Singles Rankings.

Adriana and Antolnella are around 28, Fallen of the Singles and don't seem to be any threat to Italian Singles.

Nathalie Veirin 22 Is a Middle Teir player, Has pushed the likes of Obziler to 3 Sets and Fokina and Has had a win over Panetta.

Giulia Casoni is 26ish and plays the majority of the time on the Challengers, has a SF in 25K Challenger, Defintly not a contender ;)

Alice Canepi, Berta Briante, Valentina Sassi, Rita D, Francesca Lubiani, Elisa all no Threats, and enjoy Playing the Challengers.

Watch Out for Emily Stellato 22, She pushed Kirsten to 3 Sets.

Probably the Biggest Name is Romina Oprandi, She was a defect from Switzerland, where she opted to play for Italia :( Shes 18 and has had 2 SF and a F in 10 K Events.

There is a few other players, but in general I hope that is Satisfactory. :)

So remember...Romina :D
It's a shame too because many of these women you mentioned have had some sort of consistent results and have been in the top 100. Yet like many of the women that preceded them, they are just content to have the moderate success as I had mentioned.

Rothes
May 14th, 2004, 02:26 PM
It's a shame too because many of these women you mentioned have had some sort of consistent results and have been in the top 100. Yet like many of the women that preceded them, they are just content to have the moderate success as I had mentioned.
Most women That I have mentioned seem are all consistent when compared to what they play, being Challengers, ITF, etc.

People who follow Italian Tennis seem to realise that our players, seem to reach a certain part in their game and stay their for the majority of their career, which usually isn't expected and that we know that have alot more talent. Francesca Lubidani is a prime example In my opinion

I agree however with the amount of Tennis Players, Italy is ineed of a Prodigy, The Swiss have Timea, France have Stefanie, Germany has Grönfeld, Schruff, where is Italy has very little in the way of up and comers, compared to Russia, Czech etc

Romina is a player, Though she has "Country Hopped" Twice now.

Silvia and Francesca are our Biggest Assets, Francesca can certainly keep it up, and well with Silvia at 32, who knows when she might retire.

Chunchun
May 14th, 2004, 03:02 PM
yes, it will.
SFE ,
Fran ,
Pennetta (awesome performance in Rome) ,
Santangelo (AO 4th Round!) ,
Camerin ,
Grande ,
Garbin

Rothes
May 14th, 2004, 03:10 PM
yes, it will.
SFE
Yes, she is currently doign well, but for how long,

Fran:D

Pennetta (awesome performance in Rome):D :hearts:

Santangelo (AO 4th Round!):cool:

Camerin :cool:

Grande, GarbinWhile these Two May be the veterans of the Italian Tennis League, they certainly pose no threat, at 26 (?) and 29 and at their current form, there at best Backround Players, drifting around the top 100.

Jakeev
May 15th, 2004, 09:43 AM
People who follow Italian Tennis seem to realise that our players, seem to reach a certain part in their game and stay their for the majority of their career, which usually isn't expected and that we know that have alot more talent. Francesca Lubidani is a prime example In my opinion



You could go on and on about players like Lubiani. Before her there was Francesca Romano. Linda Ferrando. Federica Bonsignori. Laura Garrone and Golarsa.

All examples of players that seemed like they were on the threshold of something big but somehow they held back and where never consistent.

Farina Elia and Schiavone seem like the new millinium versions of Reggie and Cecchini.

Something has just gotta give though and some point for Italy.

I love Mary
May 15th, 2004, 09:57 AM
It's only a matter of time!

I hope that this year Silvia can finally get the top 10: at the moment she is playing like a top 10.
Francesca too can get the top 10 (she already won against #3 of the world, Mauresmo).
Flavia will fly soon.

However: Buona fortuna a tutte! :) :)

TheBoiledEgg
May 15th, 2004, 09:59 AM
you not noticed that Italian girls seem to come into their own later on ;)

maryjane
May 15th, 2004, 11:13 AM
it's the federation's fault.it doesn't work.so tennis has no way to grow up.moreover it is never on tv and children can't have the way to like it.it is simply disappering.
i think we don't have any kind of hope if things at the basis don't change.

Colin B
May 15th, 2004, 11:20 AM
A few years ago, you could have asked the same question about Belgium.

Never say "never"! ;)


:)

V-MAC
May 15th, 2004, 11:22 AM
I expect good things from vinci and sassi this year

Rothes
May 15th, 2004, 12:06 PM
it's the federation's fault.it doesn't work.so tennis has no way to grow up.moreover it is never on tv and children can't have the way to like it.it is simply disappering.
i think we don't have any kind of hope if things at the basis don't change.
:confused: Tennis is very much alive in Italy, and it has ample viewage on TV, Maybe not as much as France or Germany, but it is an extremely popular sport in Italy.

vettipooh
May 15th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Italalian players sure seem to have the potential to be in the top 10,or even win a Slam.I think Schiavone,Farina Elia,Santangelo,Veirin,Camerin and Penetta,can be top players.Farina had the chance yesterday,to become the first Italian woman to reach the semis of IO,in quite a number of years.She served for the match at 5-3,but then lost her confidence(or choked as we like to call it),and Momo won the next 4 games.The Serra-zanetti sisters whom I like very much,have been awfully disappointing,in singles,and as a doubles team.Hpoefully,we can see an Italian go very far at FO,or Wimbly.Would be Great!!!!!!!

SilviaFan
May 15th, 2004, 03:42 PM
It's only a matter of time!

I hope that this year Silvia can finally get the top 10: at the moment she is playing like a top 10.
Francesca too can get the top 10 (she already won against #3 of the world, Mauresmo).
Flavia will fly soon.

However: Buona fortuna a tutte! :) :)

I agree. :yeah:

Jakeev
May 17th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Italalian players sure seem to have the potential to be in the top 10,or even win a Slam.I think Schiavone,Farina Elia,Santangelo,Veirin,Camerin and Penetta,can be top players.Farina had the chance yesterday,to become the first Italian woman to reach the semis of IO,in quite a number of years.She served for the match at 5-3,but then lost her confidence(or choked as we like to call it),and Momo won the next 4 games.The Serra-zanetti sisters whom I like very much,have been awfully disappointing,in singles,and as a doubles team.Hpoefully,we can see an Italian go very far at FO,or Wimbly.Would be Great!!!!!!!

I keep reading how Silvia and Francesca where trying to become the first Italian Open semifinalists in the Open era. In fact, Raffaella Reggi won it in 1985, even though I don't think it had the same stature as it does now and before 1980.

Granted it was held in Taranto in 85 and in Perugia, in which Evert and Manuela Maleeva had won titles, 1980-84, it was still the Italian Open.

I don't know I just think it should be recognized that Raffaella was an Italian Open champion regardless of what Tier the event was in the year she won it.

antonella
May 17th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Somewhat in the "wop-wops" for several years.

interesting choice of words there..