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[S@nti]
May 9th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Some days ago I heard Bush talking about America, and I realised when he says America he´s talking about USA. Why do people from USA talk about America as a country, as their own country. :retard:?

As far as I know America is a continent with lots of countries :p ...


:rolleyes:

Bezz
May 9th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Well in geography in school the teacher wouldnt give anybody a mark if they put "America" as an answer that required the answer U.S.A. They were that harsh :rolleyes: .

[S@nti]
May 9th, 2004, 02:30 PM
what is it then?

OUT!
May 9th, 2004, 02:35 PM
']what is it then?Geography was never my fav subject at school. But I think it is North America and South America in terms of continents. I might be wrong :o

[S@nti]
May 9th, 2004, 02:38 PM
I don´t know about other people but I´ve always studied it as a continent

OUT!
May 9th, 2004, 02:38 PM
Oh gosh, geography is tough. Where does Latin America fit in?

PointBlank
May 9th, 2004, 02:40 PM
I refer to America as USA

because USA = United States of America

Canada,Mexico,none of them have America in their names

Bezz
May 9th, 2004, 02:45 PM
I refer to America as USA

because USA = United States of America

Canada,Mexico,none of them have America in their names
But ther are other countires in the "America's", which are not part of the united States. ;) . I tink its either, unless yu are really being specific.

Dava
May 9th, 2004, 02:49 PM
Ok if the USA shouldt be called america, then why do we call the citizens of the USA AMERICANS. We should techinically call Canadians and Mexicans americans to.

Volcana
May 9th, 2004, 03:34 PM
']Some days ago I heard Bush talking about America, and I realised when he says America he´s talking about USA. Why do people from USA talk about America as a country, as their own country. :retard:?

As far as I know America is a continent with lots of countries :p ...


:rolleyes:
It's verbal short hand for 'United States of America'. Your point is well-taken, and people have been making that point for fifty years that I know of. When a Russian diplomat says, 'America did ...." no one thinks he's talking aboit Chile, Venezuela or Canada.

Bright Red
May 9th, 2004, 04:21 PM
As is the case with most things, it depends on the context. If I were to say, "Turkey is great", for example. You'd have no idea what I mean. If I were to say "Turkey tastes great with dressing". Voila.

I hardly think there's confusion with most educated people when the term "America" is used in the right context.

Colin B
May 9th, 2004, 05:02 PM
This also happens with 'England/English' and 'Britain/British' (and vice versa). :rolleyes:

We get used to it.

;)

Eurotennisfan
May 9th, 2004, 05:26 PM
"the Americas"= all the countries
"AMERICA"= US of A

FanDeJen
May 9th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Yeah you r totally right, America is a continent ...
If you go to any latin-american country you´ll see that they call themselves "americans"

gentenaire
May 9th, 2004, 05:32 PM
We've had the whole continent discussion before. Basically, we've discovered that the majority of the world has been taught that North and South America are two different continents, while the Spanish speaking world has been taught that America is one continent.

Why refer to the USA as America? Because its people are called Americans, not USAers. And it's not as if people don't know what we refer to when we say America.

Holland is not a country either, still, it's often easier to say Holland than The Netherlands.

Dava
May 9th, 2004, 05:37 PM
This also happens with 'England/English' and 'Britain/British' (and vice versa). :rolleyes:

We get used to it.



;)
Yeah I hate it when americans refer to the whole of the UK as England.:rolleyes:

Alek
May 9th, 2004, 05:38 PM
What gentenaire said is correct.... and anyways... and yes its very frustrating to hear "Americans" and "America" because the country name is United States of America... news here... Mexico's real name is United States of Mexico... I'm not sure if Brazil's name is also similar of that but I heard other country was also like that...

The continent is America, which is divided in 3, North America, Central America, South America.

But this will never end so don't lose your energy in this subject.

Santi me hiciste venir hasta el non-tenis, deberias sentirte orgulloso de tu logro :p

FanDeJen
May 9th, 2004, 05:45 PM
and something else...in Latin-america we refer to the USA citizens as "Estadounidenses"

LindsayRocks89
May 9th, 2004, 06:46 PM
The U.S.A stands for United States of America!
Its just a name we have adopted calling it America, and America is only a country, North America which is the U.S and Canada and maybe some other stuff is a continent and also South America is a continent. I guess central america is a country

Josh
May 9th, 2004, 07:18 PM
The U.S.A stands for United States of America!
Its just a name we have adopted calling it America, and America is only a country, North America which is the U.S and Canada and maybe some other stuff is a continent and also South America is a continent. I guess central america is a country

:tape:

upperkut
May 9th, 2004, 07:26 PM
The U.S.A stands for United States of America!
Its just a name we have adopted calling it America, and America is only a country, North America which is the U.S and Canada and maybe some other stuff is a continent and also South America is a continent. I guess central america is a country

don't be mean, Josh, but I don't think Mexicans would feel proud to see this post...

gentenaire
May 9th, 2004, 07:27 PM
The U.S.A stands for United States of America!
Its just a name we have adopted calling it America, and America is only a country, North America which is the U.S and Canada and maybe some other stuff is a continent and also South America is a continent. I guess central america is a country

Your geographical knowledge is astounding.

upperkut
May 9th, 2004, 07:30 PM
Your geographical knowledge is astounding.

ahh, c'mon now Gentenaire, this poster is only 14, he/she might not even have had studied Geography in school yet... :) :p

gentenaire
May 9th, 2004, 07:35 PM
ahh, c'mon now Gentenaire, this poster is only 14, he/she might not even have had studied Geography in school yet... :) :p

he/she probably studied some other stuff

LindsayRocks89
May 9th, 2004, 07:58 PM
ok you guys are idiots, do i have to show you a map :rolleyes: in the western hemisphere there is north america(United States and Canada), there is central America, and then there is another continent called south america. America is not a continent, that is what americans call the united states. If you say the americas then you would be talking about all of them, and for the record don't apply that i'm stupid in any way ;)

LindsayRocks89
May 9th, 2004, 08:01 PM
ok i see why you guys are making fun of me :sad: :fiery: i forgot mexico, sorry, but i don't even think mexico relates to the topic.

"Sluggy"
May 9th, 2004, 08:10 PM
I dont know if anyone said it yet, but I think historically it may have some roots. Back in the day, i dont know when, maybe the late 1700s forward, he he, It was a current idea to believe that the United States would grow to take over all of the continent and South America too. It is called MANIFEST DESTINY. Quite possibly the roots of calling the USA 'America' could stem back to that. i think i recall learning that somewhere. thats still the plan, right? annex Canada, Mexico and the rest of the hemisphere cause they aint doin much with it anyway? LOL

[S@nti]
May 9th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Santi me hiciste venir hasta el non-tenis, deberias sentirte orgulloso de tu logro :p

:woohoo: :hehehe: :bolt:

Mateo Mathieu
May 9th, 2004, 09:06 PM
*try to stop hysteric at LindsayRocks89*

Oh! Central America is a country, huh? That's cool.

propi
May 9th, 2004, 09:19 PM
I will never understand this :confused: I guess it's a cultural issue and it will stays the same you like it or not, personally I don't but what can I do, I simply refer to USA or EEUU, that's all
I was taught América as a only continent... afterall Columbus discovered América, not Central América or Antilles or Cuba and Santo Domingo :p
At least this thread showed me that education in my country is not as bad as politicians say, at least in comparison to other places :D :p

gentenaire
May 9th, 2004, 09:23 PM
I will never understand this :confused:
I was taught América as a only continent... afterall Columbus discovered América, not Central América or Antilles or Cuba and Santo Domingo :p
At least this thread showed me that education in my country is not as bad as politicians say, at least in comparison to other places :D :p

Like I said, in Spanish speaking countries it's considered one continent, everywhere else (including National Geographic, and so on) they're considered two seperate continents. We had a very lenghty discussion about this here on WTAworld. I don't think anyone is right or wrong, it's just a convention, just a name, after all.

[S@nti]
May 9th, 2004, 09:25 PM
:haha: y yo soy la prueba :p

upperkut
May 9th, 2004, 09:53 PM
expansionism caused by the manifest destiny caused Mexico to lose 51% of its former territory to a growing nation... the Alamo history is not really about freedom, more about occupation..

Madhuri
May 9th, 2004, 10:17 PM
This subject will never die. Why the USA is called America is obvious. It is the only country on the continents of North and South America that has the word "America" in its name. The alterative would be to refer to Americans as the "Uniteds" or the "Statians" both of which are vague, not to mention ridiculous. It is neither arrogant nor ignorant to refer to the USA in short as America-- it is technically correct and makes sense.

Cariaoke
May 9th, 2004, 10:54 PM
what Madhuri said.

and Columbus didn't discover SHIT. you can't discover something where people already live. if that's the case, let me go to Micronesia and pick an island to "discover". Well, at least I'd know where I was going instead of Columbus!

Even other countries refer to us as "America". I prefer the "US" but whatever.

decemberlove
May 9th, 2004, 10:58 PM
what Madhuri said.

and Columbus didn't discover SHIT. you can't discover something where people already live. if that's the case, let me go to Micronesia and pick an island to "discover". Well, at least I'd know where I was going instead of Columbus!

Even other countries refer to us as "America". I prefer the "US" but whatever.
yep . all columbus did was murder a whole lot of natives

Cariaoke
May 9th, 2004, 11:00 PM
you left out raping of the women and the land and sending both back to Espana cuz it was the cool thing to do.

decemberlove
May 9th, 2004, 11:01 PM
Oh gosh, geography is tough. Where does Latin America fit in?
Latin America: all countries south of the US where romance languages are spoken [spanish, french, portuguese]

decemberlove
May 9th, 2004, 11:04 PM
you left out raping of the women and the land and sending both back to Espana cuz it was the cool thing to do.
yes . and i forgot
-spreading white people disease
-making the natives find gold in a place where there was very little gold . making them wear necklaces if they found gold . and if they didnt . death
-"testing" different methods of death on the natives . lets see . how effective is the method of slicing a person from the feet to the head in half? hmmm

...

Cariaoke
May 9th, 2004, 11:14 PM
:haha:

that diary of him explaining how "inferior" the natives were to europeans was classic. "with such brown skin and toned bodies, their's is a race built for work." :yeah: Cristobal!

decemberlove
May 9th, 2004, 11:25 PM
:haha:

that diary of him explaining how "inferior" the natives were to europeans was classic. "with such brown skin and toned bodies, their's is a race built for work." :yeah: Cristobal!
ha!

"they willing traded everything they owned ... they were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features ... they do not bear arms ... they would make fine servants ... with fifty men we could subjugate them and make them do whatever we want."

Cariaoke
May 9th, 2004, 11:30 PM
:bowdown: :worship:

Yet we celebrate Columbus day but it took a damn referendum then a gotdamn amendment almost to get MLK day in a majority of the states. How ignorant! :fiery:

Wigglytuff
May 9th, 2004, 11:48 PM
:bowdown: :worship:

Yet we celebrate Columbus day but it took a damn referendum then a gotdamn amendment almost to get MLK day in a majority of the states. How ignorant! :fiery:


as far as i know the USA is the only country in the American Landmass that celebrates columbus day. what does that say about the US?

also AMERICA as is a landmass including 2 continents, a Nothern one (North America) and a Southern one (South America). the united states of america or ameriKKKa is the nation with the red, white and blue flag. america the nation is an alternative spelling of "ameriKKKa".

just like people say ignorant things like "i living the city of manhattan" (manhattan is one of 5 boroughs in the city of new york, any new yorker knows that, its not its own "city")

similarly ameriKKKa (pronounced 'america') is a country in the continent of North America.

~ The Leopard ~
May 10th, 2004, 12:32 AM
*worshipping the ground that Tine walks on*

controlfreak
May 10th, 2004, 12:42 AM
I always thought they called it America to avoid confusion with Uncontrollable Sex Addicts.

alexusjonesfan
May 10th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea about the arbitrariness of continental definitions :o I was taught the 7 continent-world system with North America going all the way to the border with Venezuela.

About Columbus day, I think we have thanksgiving in Canada at the same time as Columbus day in the US. And if you want to complain about problems he caused, try having to put the qualifier 'east' before your nationality everytime to let people know you're the cab-drivin' and not the casino-runnin' sort of Indian.

FanDeJen
May 10th, 2004, 11:16 PM
Actually the name "America" was given to the continent after "Amerigo Vespucci" an Italian explorer who had the distinction of recognizing the fact that the lands discovered by Columbus, was not Asia, but a separate continent.

dudester
May 10th, 2004, 11:18 PM
Jewnited estate! :worship: