It was supposed to unite people from all over the world, but it turned even these boards into the fiercest battlefield. Now I am not even looking forward to the next Olympics. Really, that makes me appreciate those truly international sports like tennis where the nationality of a sportsman is almost irrelevant. Nationalism has never done anyone any good.
Becca, Hurley, all you nice people who fought me during this fortnight, I am really sorry about all I said during this time that might have hurt you. I am sorry..
I hope it will take just a couple of days for us to reconcile and heal the wounds we made to each other..
Feb 25th, 2002, 04:25 AM
Very nice post, ys! It comes from the heart
You are right, let's forget about the fights and the battles, O.K.?
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:13 AM
I would really like it if we could all get along, ys. I really would. But until you stop your constant anti-North American rants I don't think I can.
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:17 AM
All night tonight I had to hear about how these Olympics were "the greatest ever," "loved by fans the world over" in its success in "bringing the world together."
Was no one on NBC paying attention? :(
Nationalism is an ugly beast, and these Olympics were more divisive than any in history. Think of the typeset wars between Russia and Canada, Russia and the US, Korea and the US. Even the newspapers today were spouting how great it will be when the US beats Canada in the gold-medal game (I can't wait to see these jerks eat their words tomorrow).
And then here, in this microcosm of the real world, we had some truly titanic battles, many of which I was involved in, many of which I was partly to blame. Many of the things I said I stand by, but anything I may have said in malice or in anger I would wholeheartedly love to take back.
But then, think of the athletes. Berezhnaya and Sikharulidze sharing a podium with Sale and Pelletier. Slutskaya and Kwan coming back from crushing disappointment to skate in the gala. Ohno being denied a gold medal, then accepting his silver medal as if it were a gold. Think of every gold medallist who pulls the silver and bronze winners up to the top step with them before being prompted to by the photographers.
Alisa Camplin and Steven Bradbury. Vonetta Flowers and Brian Shimer. Mario Lemieux and Catriona LeMay. Simon Ammann. Jean-Pierre Vidal. Jochem Uytdehaage.
These are what we have to hold on to, these men and women whose dreams came true. This is what we have to hold on to, and remember for Athens '04 and Torino '06. They are what the Olympics should be about, and what, hopefully, they will be about from now on.
So, apology accepted, ys, but no one should have to apologize for their feelings, and for their hopes, and for rooting for their favorites, even when all seems lost.
Having said that, I apologize too. ;)
It will go back to normal, soon. It was a fun two weeks, in spite of all of the drama.
I hope none of you will mind, though, if I don't even look at these boards during Athens... :)
Peace, kids. :)
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:23 AM
...was that too sappy?
I'm sorry, but all of the clips tonight made me so nostalgic and teary-eyed. God, I'm such a loser. :p
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:38 AM
It's OK, ys, nationalism probably gets the best of us sometimes! :kiss:
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:45 AM
I still don't, and never will, appreciate your anti North American rants ys - but for the most part I think you mean well.
So although I don't agree these Olympics were so bad - thanks for the appology.
THough if that was totally how you felt, then you shouldnt 'need to appologize :)
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:13 AM
Ys, I don't agree with some (ok, a lot ;) ) of the things you've said, but it's ok, (I know that a lot of people sure as hell dont' agree with everything I say ;))...you've got your opinions and I've got mine. If we all thought the same things, what a boring world it would be! Well, talk to ya later! :D
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:23 AM
I dumped a lot of crap on ys today. :) I think he gets it, we don't really need to keep chastising him for his views anymore.
I have mine and you have yours and he has his, we've got along in spite of them before and we'll do it again. He knows how we felt, but his heart is in the right place (mostly ;)) so we shouldn't rub each other's noses in our Olympic-inspired biases anymore.
As Vanity said, nationalism probably gets the best of us sometimes. We're all guilty of it, but it's over.
[holds hands with everyone and sings "Kumbaya"]
Feb 25th, 2002, 09:52 AM
Yes! Let´s forget the fights ! ;) :cool: The games are over anyway :sad: !
VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Feb 25th, 2002, 12:45 PM
The Olympics are the best....and if you want to enjoy yourself, watch them....if not, don't ;)
Well said Hurley.....there were so many other stories other than the main ones covered by the media.
What the Janica did was just immpecable.
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:34 PM
Hurley, that was a wonderful post. You are very well spoken. Are you perhaps a politician in the making?
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:37 PM
I'm glad they are over also because I got tired of the whining everytime the Americans won a medal.
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:47 PM
The only thing i miss is the curling!God i got addicted to it!:o :D
Feb 25th, 2002, 10:05 PM
very big of you ys to start this thread.
And Hurley, that was a great post. :D
now if only we could bring this sentiment over to general messages...
Feb 25th, 2002, 11:07 PM
Hurley, I would say THE most divisive Olympics were the Summer Olympics of 1980 and 1984.
Feb 25th, 2002, 11:17 PM
Let me inject even more harmony and serenity into this thread with a quote from the Moscow Times:
Olympic gold medal pairs skaters Anton Sikharulidze and Yelena Berezhnaya returned to Moscow on Sunday and played down the uproar over their victory.
"If everything were to go quietly, nobody would watch the Games, there would not be enough interest with the general public," Sikharulidze told reporters at Sheremetyevo Airport. "It is cool the way it is."
Many Russians resented the decision to give a second gold to the Canadian pair, saying it showed an anti-Russian bias, but Sikharulidze dismissed those concerns.
"No one has asked me to cut off a piece of my well-earned medal and give it away," he said. "Even if six more gold medals were awarded, it would not have decreased the value of my victory. Myself, I feel great."
Feb 25th, 2002, 11:56 PM
DH, I dunno. Those were divisive times, yes, but the Olympics were relatively mundane, since the US stayed away from Moscow and the USSR stayed out of LA. There weren't any reasons to fight with each other about competitions since they both weren't there.
Thanks Moon. :)
Thanks cat. :) But a politician? That sounds like an insult to me! :p
Seriously, I think about it. Not too many gay guys get to be President, though. :p