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CoryAnnAvants#1
Apr 30th, 2004, 07:25 PM
I got it the other week and I don't understand it...the first seven songs on the album are the best stuff I've heard in the last two years. Literally all of those songs (with the exception of "Try") could be a huge smash.

So what gives? Why did it sell 1/10th of what "Whoa, Nelly" sold? Why is it getting absolutely no radio airtime or play on VH1/MTV?

GoDominique
Apr 30th, 2004, 07:36 PM
It's doing well in Germany. I guess Americans have no taste.

GoDominique
Apr 30th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Well actually Germans have no taste either, so it's probably just coincidence. :o

Dahveed
Apr 30th, 2004, 08:18 PM
Not commercial enough. She didn't show her nipples, didn't kiss Madonna or anything 'big' like that either, so it doesn't help for the sales. But i agree with you, this album is really good and original.

Infiniti2001
Apr 30th, 2004, 08:18 PM
I dunno if she hurried it because of her pregancy/baby, but I'm sorry, but she sounds horrible this time around.

propi
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:15 PM
it's simple great I've heard 2 songs and I love it :D
She's one of the most original singers and one of the few who do what she wants :bounce:

Joana
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:21 PM
I've stopped wondering about low sales of albums long time ago.
But I agree, her album is great, and should have done much better.

Nikola
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:32 PM
no pron in videos :confused:

GoDominique
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:35 PM
no pron in videos :confused:
Yeah, and no porn either :(

[S@nti]
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:53 PM
I love Nelly Furtado :D :)

upperkut
Apr 30th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Does she sing in Portuguese this time around?

She is very talented, but I guess the record companies decided she is not commercial enough... :rolleyes:
with absolutely no play airtime, videos and promos, her album was destined to have poor sales, but who cares about numbers if the product is good anyway, right ? ;)

Couver
Apr 30th, 2004, 11:06 PM
I was disappointed with the sales as well.

Nelly and Alicia Keys both had huge success with their first albums. And both of their second albums have sold poorly.

Of course I like Nelly much more than Alicia :devil:

jrm
Apr 30th, 2004, 11:29 PM
As soon as singers start to change the still they were known for record sales go down. Just remember Alanis Morissette, Jewel ...

Randy H
May 1st, 2004, 12:13 AM
Nelly's second album is much better quality than the first - She didn't do much promotion though, and that is often a key to success and building early album momentum. In Europe I expect better - 'Try' has done reasonably well and boosted the album back up a bit more, and 'Forca' is going to be a World Cup song which will be great promotion. :)

Joana
May 1st, 2004, 12:30 AM
She is doing OK in Europe - "Powerless" was really high in charts. USA seems to be the different story. :(

CoryAnnAvants#1
May 1st, 2004, 02:16 AM
Does she sing in Portuguese this time around?

She is very talented, but I guess the record companies decided she is not commercial enough... :rolleyes:
with absolutely no play airtime, videos and promos, her album was destined to have poor sales, but who cares about numbers if the product is good anyway, right ? ;)

Yep she sings in Portuguese on "Fresh off the Boat" and "Forca"

The thing about the album is that it's VERY commerical if it were given a fair shot to do well. I saw Powerless on VH1 ONCE (and that was after midnight.) Haven't seen the video for "Try." Having "Forca" be the European soccer championship anthem isn't going to help in the US, since no one cares about soccer here.

Having a baby right when the album comes out probably wasn't the best timing, but she made up for it by appearing at every morning and late night show imaginable. She changed her image a bit as well (went from the sassy vibrant chick to much more demure and maternal) but still, the album should at least be getting gold status.


And Cool Canuck, here are some Nelly songs you should download

Shit on the radio
Turn off the light
I'm like a bird
Hey man
Explode
Try
Forca
Fresh Off the Boat
One Trick Pony
Powerless (say what you want)
Explode
The Grass is Green
Build You Up
Trynna Finda Way

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
May 1st, 2004, 04:35 AM
Com Una Forca is an inspiring song - love it!

The Grass is Green is awesome as well.

I love her new album but I love Nelly!

Jakeev
May 1st, 2004, 06:03 AM
I was disappointed with the sales as well.

Nelly and Alicia Keys both had huge success with their first albums. And both of their second albums have sold poorly.

Of course I like Nelly much more than Alicia :devil:
Actually Alicia is not doing all that bad. Her album has been prett steady and she did have that huge hit You Don't Know My Name, so I don't think Ms Keys is doing all that bad.

As for Nelly, isn't she Canadian?

Dahveed
May 1st, 2004, 01:35 PM
Yeah she's Canadian but with Portuguese origins. I love 'The Grass Is Green' and check out 'Rainbow of My Childhood Dreams' as well, this song is wonderful.

Randy H
May 1st, 2004, 01:38 PM
The Grass Is Green is excellent :D One of my faves too

Also love One Trick Pony, and Build You Up :)

Julian
May 1st, 2004, 02:58 PM
I love Nelly's album as well! But I agree, not enough promotion :( I didnt even know it came out until I saw her video for Powerless on VH1! lol I saw "Try" though and that was a pretty powerful song.

Alicia Keys is actually doing pretty good and "If I aint got you" is on top of some of the charts for R&B and Urban.

Madhuri
May 1st, 2004, 03:05 PM
I loved Nelly's first album. This album didn't grab me as much but it is still good. I think the problem was her album was released right after she had her baby which meant she couldn't promote it properly. As Brandy and Toni Braxton have shown, releasing an album right after childbirth is not the best timing. As new moms you obviously can't put in as much time promoting.

I saw the video for "Try" on VH1 a few times. I love "Try" and "One Trick Pony". This album isn't as fun as her first album and their are too many songs with that same banjo chord playing throughout.

alexusjonesfan
May 1st, 2004, 03:31 PM
I think this album has too much substance :o

No really, I've listened to both of her albums several times over and Folklore is definitely the better. It's more complete and has much more to say. It might be doing poorly because the songs don't follow the teeny-bopper relationship arc (have-crush-want-him-in-love-left-me-heartbreak) :shrug:

My favourite is one trick pony :cool:

jenny161185
May 1st, 2004, 03:32 PM
Powerless is an amazing song and Ive been meaning to pick up this album just haven t got around to it :) think the lack of promotion at its initial release is the main factor - maybe a ''hit'' single would propel it back up the charts?

Cybelle Darkholme
May 1st, 2004, 03:33 PM
Maybe people saw her live like me and realized that she cannot sing.

alexusjonesfan
May 1st, 2004, 03:52 PM
Maybe people saw her live like me and realized that she cannot sing.
That didn't hurt a lot of other 'singers' :shrug:
I've seen her live too and I thought she was pretty similar to her sound on the albums.

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
May 1st, 2004, 04:23 PM
Maybe people saw her live like me and realized that she cannot sing.
Hmm, I think she can sing very well. Perhaps it is a matter of opinion.


But in reality, with all the shit on the radio these days (pun intended), it's hard for someone who actually has a different sound to become popular.

You don't here the best music on the radio anymore, it freaking sucks. All you hear is Chingy, Little John, J-Kwon, Britney Spears, and Ludacris. Give me a break!

Randy H
May 1st, 2004, 04:36 PM
Maybe people saw her live like me and realized that she cannot sing.
She performed live on a T.V. show recently (singing 'Try'), and I thought she sang quite well actually. Maybe you caught her on a bad night :p

Madhuri
May 1st, 2004, 04:43 PM
A lot of people have non-classical voices and I've found that I don't mind so much when they use that voice in an inventive way and have good music and lyrics. Nelly Furtado falls into that category for me. She is quirky and worth listening too.

On the flip side, there are "singers" like Britney who does not have a strong voice but doesn't make up for it with unique delivery or good lyrics. Instead we get the same nasalized computer generated voice spewing vapid lyrics over songs that seemed designed to cover her vocal weakness rather than convey a mood or point.

Then there are artists who can actually sing but I can't get into because their lyrics are so bad- Beyonce and Avril are the worst lyricists on the scene today. They both make the case for why young stars should get an education. They come off inarticulate in interviews and is carries over into their lyrics.

matthias
May 1st, 2004, 04:57 PM
i lover her Album, and it is few weeks in german top10 now (always around #10 and #8) and her first single "powerless" was also top10 in germany
i love many songs on her album "folklore" specially "try" "grass is green" "forca" and "island of wonder"
and the best is, i will go to a Nelly concert
in Munich in June 16th 2004. :woohoo:
canīt wait

volley1
May 1st, 2004, 05:11 PM
Nelly Furtado had a baby? :eek: Who's the father, did she get married? :sad:

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
May 2nd, 2004, 02:57 AM
I should move to Europe. Their charts always match my music tastes.

Martian KC
May 2nd, 2004, 03:41 AM
This is an amazing album!!!!!!!!!! She's not getting the same publicity that her first album got.

I love the "Try" video!

BigB08822
May 2nd, 2004, 03:47 AM
It is a great album I wish it would do better. Onetrick Pony is my favorite.

CoryAnnAvants#1
May 2nd, 2004, 04:13 AM
Is that banjo that I hear? :o
Yeah...Nelly Furtado has a knack for throwing every instrument imaginable into her songs. If you listen to her songs (especially the most recent ones) closely, you can hear about 6 or 7 instruments in the background going.

CoryAnnAvants#1
May 2nd, 2004, 05:42 AM
Yeah I've noticed the folkloric instruments. I can see why she doesn't get a lot of airplay.
Do you like her stuff at least?;)

Couver
May 2nd, 2004, 07:42 AM
Actually Alicia is not doing all that bad. Her album has been prett steady and she did have that huge hit You Don't Know My Name, so I don't think Ms Keys is doing all that bad.

As for Nelly, isn't she Canadian?
Well that's depressing! :o

At least Nelly's songs are entertaining. :angel:

harloo
May 2nd, 2004, 07:58 AM
Face it people, in todays industry you cannot get pregnant and leave music for a while unless you are Streisand or something. With downloading and the consolidation of music industry execs, employee's etc, you have to keep an edge as an artist.

Nelly Furtado's sales had nothing to do with Janet, Britney, Xtina, etc. It had to do with the change in the industry itself as to how music is sold. You can look and see alot of artists struggling to do numbers like they did before. Pink, Sugar Ray, Music, etc. all are in a sales slump.

switz
May 2nd, 2004, 08:04 AM
she didn't do anything to recreate her image, and that's all the buzz at this moment. it doesn't matter because she has a long term value which the majority of the current performers don't, so eventually things should even out.

she got a lot of airplay in australia for "powerless" and the video was always on channel V and MTV but it didn't do too well on the charts. her second single "try" gets a lot of play on masic max which i think is the vh1 equivalent in australia.

she's very talented, but that doesn't always mean very much when it comes to having commercial success.

switz
May 2nd, 2004, 08:06 AM
now i think of it she can't really complain about not having commercial success anyway because "powerless" was essentially taking a pretty big swipe at it.

Mariangelina
May 2nd, 2004, 11:28 AM
She's getting all kinds of airplay here, but that's probably because it's Canada. But I love Nelly. Her first album was amazing, and I certainly intend to buy her second one when I gather the inner strength needed to buy it. Shopping sucks the blood from my veins. Well, I hardly saw any advertising for Nelly's album. I just read about it in the newspaper and then started hearing singles. And let's face it, if you weren't a huge fan who followed her really closely, she kinda disappeared off the face of the earth a while after her first album. She was getting airplay, but most young artists should follow up their debut album within a couple years so they stay in the public eye, and no one knew what the heck nelly was doing. I spent two years waiting for her album. When they're older and have had a bunch of albums, they can take an extended break, like Sarah McLachlan did. Then again, Sarah is Sarah, and I'm still convinced she's some sort of minor deity. Nelly is very human, and I respect her decision to have a kid now, but she should have kept herself a little more visible if she wanted Folklore to sell. Maybe it's an amazing album. The singles are pretty good. But hopefully Nelly's third album will do as well as it deserves.

lee station
May 2nd, 2004, 12:26 PM
Here in Spain, we've seen the video for "Folklore" - but I haven't been watching tv in a while

Habsudovafan
May 2nd, 2004, 01:28 PM
She is doing great in the netherlands. Powerless and try reached top 10. The album is still in the top 10. I've got the album and love it!

Circe
May 2nd, 2004, 03:38 PM
i liked this album more than the first one myself, but maybe its not been marketed well enough.

volley1
May 2nd, 2004, 04:41 PM
:fiery: Again I ask who is the father of her baby? Did she get married? Somebody..... anybody. :sad:

CoryAnnAvants#1
May 2nd, 2004, 05:30 PM
:fiery: Again I ask who is the father of her baby? Did she get married? Somebody..... anybody. :sad:
She got pregnant by her boyfriend of a few years who's actually the DJ in her band, Lil Jaz. But they haven't gotten married yet.

King Aaron
May 2nd, 2004, 06:21 PM
You can look and see alot of artists struggling to do numbers like they did before. Pink, Sugar Ray, Music, etc. all are in a sales slump.
I'm still wondering why...and am pissed as well. :mad: ;)

JonBcn
May 2nd, 2004, 08:48 PM
Apparently its because she didnt want to do heavy promotion for the record at the time of release as her baby was just a couple of months old, but the record company were happy to release it anyway. Its doing well as a slow-burning success though, and is selling consistently all around the world, even if it's not the US smash that 'Whoa Nelly' was. 'Forca' is gonna be everywhere in a couple of months and will propel sales sky-high, mark my words. :)

controlfreak
May 2nd, 2004, 09:09 PM
I think Folklore is just as good an album as Whoa Nelly, possibly even better. Its quality is more consistent but so far the chosen singles, Powerless and Try, despite being great songs, have not had the chart-topping potential of I'm Like A Bird and Turn Off The Light. Nelly's music style is pretty unique and hard to classify, and therefore not so commercial. I think it's safe to say that the success of the first album was based almost entirely on the first single. Maybe some of the people who bought that album feel like they don't want to invest more money in Nelly Furtado because her music is not to everyone's tastes. I feel that Nelly is the kind of artist who will always make good and interesting music, but in the long run will not enjoy mainstream success in the pop world. Which is a pity, because I have really liked all of her work so far. But of course it's better that she makes her own music with no regard to record sales, rather than selling out to be more popular.

emptyhead
May 2nd, 2004, 09:24 PM
She reminds me of Courtney Cox. I know this has nothing to do with her album but, I tend to make stupid posts and this is one of them.

Monique
May 2nd, 2004, 10:31 PM
Apparently its because she didnt want to do heavy promotion for the record at the time of release as her baby was just a couple of months old, but the record company were happy to release it anyway. Its doing well as a slow-burning success though, and is selling consistently all around the world, even if it's not the US smash that 'Whoa Nelly' was. 'Forca' is gonna be everywhere in a couple of months and will propel sales sky-high, mark my words. :)that might hold true for Europe and Asia, but the Euro Cup will hardly have any coverage in the U.S... I think "Try" is a suave pop gem, but nothing that Heather Nova hasn't done with more consistensy and better vocals... I remember reading once that she was planning on releasing a full Portuguese album, with some fado and Brazilian tunes, it will be interesting to see if she can crack the South American market...