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BigB08822
Apr 29th, 2004, 02:12 AM
Last night I went to "The House of Blues" in New Orleans to see Joss Stone in concert. A lot of people don't know who she is but they soon will. I've seen a few articles posted on here in here so maybe some of you read them.

She was simply amazing. I can not believe this girl is only 16. Or is it 17, now? Either way, she is incredible. She can really perform and dance and is just so comfortable up on stage. She made tons of eye contact throughout her set. She caught my eye quite a few times (It was standing room and I was at the stage), almost turned me straight!! :eek:

Her voice is amazing on the CD and I was really curious to see how she held up live. Well let me tell you, she may be the first person to sound better in person than on their CD. She was just simply amazing. She is so good in person that during her first song I seriously wondered if she was lipsynching! (and no, she wasnt!)

She sang most of the songs from her "Soul Sessions" album plus about 4 songs from her upcoming album. I really liked what I heard from the new album and can not wait to get it for myself. Unfortunately she never mentioned when it might be due out.

If anyone here has a chance to go see her then please do. You will NOT regret it. My friend that went with me has been to more concerts than she can count and she says this is one of the best concerts she ever attended.

Tratree
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:39 AM
Totally cool. I just got her CD this weekend and I LOVE it. What a set of pipes. I'm jealous :wavey:

BigB08822
Apr 29th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Glad you got it and liked it so much. I am so mad because she is doing another show today in New Orleans at 3pm but I don't get off work until 2 or later so I won't be able to go. :(

smarties
Apr 30th, 2004, 12:17 AM
Could you please tell me what her 4 new songs sounded like??? is it soul??? I read in her interview that her new album would be quite different, I just hope she doesn't go bubble gum pop on me!!! or worst R&B '' la Mariah Carey''.

G_Slammed
Apr 30th, 2004, 01:19 AM
I've heard "Soul Sessions"... don't know what you would call it... but it ain't Soul.

BigB08822
Apr 30th, 2004, 01:22 AM
It aint "soul?" What is "soul" then? I would LOVE to hear your answer. What she does on "Soul Sessions" is definitely soul music, from back in the day. It isn't any of this new crap you might call soul.

Her new album stuff was great! I really liked it. To me it is similar to "Soul Sessions" in the overall sound of everything. It certainly is NOT bubble gum pop or anything like that! Don't worry, if you like Joss Stone now, you will still like her after the release of her new CD.

smarties
Apr 30th, 2004, 10:36 PM
Thanx man:) good to hear that she's sticking to her roots!!! And yes, obviously, G Slammed knowledge of soul music seems quite limited.

Thierry's_Ladee
Apr 30th, 2004, 11:28 PM
I love this girl absolutely superb her music is, u are sooo damn lucky to have seen her live!! Cant wait till she does some dates back in the UK

G_Slammed
May 1st, 2004, 02:59 AM
What she does on "Soul Sessions" is definitely soul music, from back in the day. It isn't any of this new crap you might call soul.
Like "back in the day" ..eh?

Case closed. Can't take you seriously.
You don't have a clue whereas soul music is concerned.

Soul Sessions is nothing remotely like "back in the day" soul music, neither is it on level with even alot of the sorriest neo-soul/R&B stuff out there now. Don't worry though. She'll gain as much ground as the equally "melodious" (lol) voiced Anastascia did.

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 03:02 AM
Like "back in the day" ..eh?

Case closed. Can't take you seriously.
You don't have a clue whereas soul music is concerned.

Soul Sessions is nothing remotely like "back in the day" soul music, neither is it on level with even alot of the sorriest neo-soul/R&B stuff out there now. Don't worry though. She'll gain as much ground as the equally "melodious" (lol) voiced Anastascia did.
I think someone has race Issues :tape: ;)

G_Slammed
May 1st, 2004, 03:05 AM
I think someone can't handle the bare-naked truth... so what does that someone do?

They punk out.

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 03:13 AM
I think someone can't handle the bare-naked truth... so what does that someone do?

They punk out.
What exactly is the bare-naked truth?- Joss stone has a great voice for the type of soul songs she sings, end of storey. Yeah she isnt black, but so what, she has the voice, let it go :rolleyes:

G_Slammed
May 1st, 2004, 03:38 AM
If you want to think she "has the voice".. that's your choice. Think it.

I say she's nothing out of the ordinary. I say she's more hyped up and psyched-out than gifted.
And she isn't impressing the masses as you may be lead to believe.

That's the buttass-naked truth.

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 03:46 AM
If you want to think she "has the voice".. that's your choice. Think it.

I say she's nothing out of the ordinary. I say she's more hyped up and psyched-out than gifted.
And she isn't impressing the masses as you may be lead to believe.

That's the buttass-naked truth.
She has only just come on the scene so no she isnt a world-wide star yet, but she is certianly talented and has a great voice, only a handful of ppl would agree with yu that she is overhyped and psyched-out.

Only time will tell how well she does, so lets just see :cool:

Rocketta
May 1st, 2004, 04:59 AM
It aint "soul?" What is "soul" then? I would LOVE to hear your answer. What she does on "Soul Sessions" is definitely soul music, from back in the day. It isn't any of this new crap you might call soul.

I'm interested to know what you are comparing it to? What is the new crap that you're referring to? :confused:

Just wondering what your definition of new soul is so I can understand your position and what her album might sound like. I've still only heard one song and saw her perform on some late night show that I can't remember which. She was good. She sounded good. The song she sang I don't remember it sounding like a back in the day, Aretha, Sam Cooke, etc..."Soul" song. That's why I'm curious as to what contemporary artist are you comparing her to?

For the record I think she's talented. I think she sounded good.

DunkMachine
May 1st, 2004, 09:18 AM
If Joss Stone was black I'm 100% sure Big wouldn't be at the concert. Not calling you a racist or anything(you do whatever you want), just stating FACT. I heard her music and it's good but Soul isn't a populair genre yet this girl gets as much publicity as any other pop artist.

BigB08822
May 1st, 2004, 09:53 AM
Your a fucking moron, dunkmachine! I am SO glad you are 100% sure I wouldn't be at the concert if she were black! That is TOTALLY wrong. I like people based on their voice and if she were black and had the same voice you can bet I would be at the concert. I HATE what you said.

thalle
May 1st, 2004, 11:42 AM
i heard something about she will perform at the Roskilde Festival. The one song I heard is great, and I admire how she uses her voice, unlike girls like Britney. She's not going for the easy way, but goes for the kind which she likes, as soul. It's cool! Esp. when you think about her age.
I will definately see if she comes to the festival.
:worship:

Madhuri
May 1st, 2004, 12:33 PM
If Joss Stone was black I'm 100% sure Big wouldn't be at the concert. Not calling you a racist or anything(you do whatever you want), just stating FACT. I heard her music and it's good but Soul isn't a populair genre yet this girl gets as much publicity as any other pop artist.


The way Joss is being promoted is completely turning me off. MTV does not play Erykah Badu, Jill Scott or India Arie or any of the multitudes of soul artists who have been plugging away in the genre for years but they are suddenly all over this blonde girl. Joss is a good singer but her voice is not extraordinary in the world of soul music where vocals like that are a dime a dozen. She is a talented girl but her popularity is a novelty revolving around that tired schtick of "white person who sounds black". That voice coming out of a black woman would not even merit a mention from the press or fans alike. I am so sick of fake connoisseurs of "soul" music who never bothered with other artists in the genre and are only buying Joss Stone's album because she is a young blonde girl.

I wonder what type of music Joss would be singing if that producer hadn't heard her voice, saw dollar signs then proceeded to give her a black mentor to "mold" her into a soul artist not to mention black backup singers and a black band for added street cred. Of course there is the perfunctory video where Joss is singing a song that would never be played in any black club in front of nothing but black people. In fact, Joss is the only white person in the video. I guarantee her concerts have a majority of white people. It's like they are hitting people over the head with "She's a soul singer! She really is!"

It's not her fault but Joss is just as manufactured as other pop artists. If she succeeds I expect to see a whole gang of white girl "soul" singers crashing the airwaves. The essence of soul music is not just the vocals but that you believe the person singing the songs actually feels what they are singing (see Aretha and "Respect") and has actually been through whatever experience they are singing about (see Badu and "Tyrone" or Jill Scott and "Gettin in the Way". )Joss is a 16 year old who was handed a bunch of songs to sing just because of her voice. She has more than likely not yet expereineced a lot of the relationship ups and downs that inspires the best soul singers. Joss has the voice but not the "soul" yet.

CC
May 1st, 2004, 03:25 PM
... kinda like Venus/Serena in tennis: they are more visible and get a lot of attention because they succeed in a white sport. Joss may be talented (just like V & S), but it helps that she's white and 'out of her element.'

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 03:35 PM
... kinda like Venus/Serena in tennis: they are more visible and get a lot of attention because they succeed in a white sport. Joss may be talented (just like V & S), but it helps that she's white and 'out of her element.'
Yu just hit the nail on the head :worship:

Rocketta
May 1st, 2004, 04:06 PM
Yu just hit the nail on the head :worship:except V & S are as talented as any tennis player out there some believe to be the most talented. However, that question still remains about Joss. So I don't know if we can say their fame is due to being "out of their element" or due to the fact that they are the best on the court.

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 06:27 PM
except V & S are as talented as any tennis player out there some believe to be the most talented. However, that question still remains about Joss. So I don't know if we can say their fame is due to being "out of their element" or due to the fact that they are the best on the court.
Agreed :) , but having got joss stones album and heard her on the TV aswell, i think she is just as talented and more so than some of her black contempories who sing this type of music- but becuase she is white will get more exposure, in the same way V & S have done.

Madhuri
May 1st, 2004, 06:57 PM
Agreed :) , but having got joss stones album and heard her on the TV aswell, i think she is just as talented and more so than some of her black contempories who sing this type of music- but becuase she is white will get more exposure, in the same way V & S have done.
Joss has no black contemporaries who sing the sort of throwback "soul" music she does --at least not in her age group. Black women who sing like that can't get recording contracts because record label suits deem them to be boring, unoriginal or too "church". Only black women who look like Ashanti Beyonce or Alicia Keys and sing watered-down hip-hop and R&B get recording contracts and major MTV exposure.

smarties
May 1st, 2004, 09:30 PM
It's not her fault but Joss is just as manufactured as other pop artists. If she succeeds I expect to see a whole gang of white girl "soul" singers crashing the airwaves. The essence of soul music is not just the vocals but that you believe the person singing the songs actually feels what they are singing (see Aretha and "Respect") and has actually been through whatever experience they are singing about (see Badu and "Tyrone" or Jill Scott and "Gettin in the Way". )Joss is a 16 year old who was handed a bunch of songs to sing just because of her voice. She has more than likely not yet expereineced a lot of the relationship ups and downs that inspires the best soul singers. Joss has the voice but not the "soul" yet.


excerpt from a Joss Stone interview:

TMR: Can you fully appreciate the emotions of the songs you're singing at your young age?

STONE: I think saying that my age defines whether I can feel emotion is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. How old do you have to be to feel pain, or to be angry at someone, or to love someone? You don't have to be any age. You have to be alive, of course, but it really doesn't matter. It's really strange, it's a very strange way of thinking.

But I suppose people were kind of shocked because it's a change isn't it? I mean you don't really hear 16-year-olds singing this type of music, I suppose. But, you know, deal with it. It's all good. I think it's a positive thing and people will seem to see it as something that's fake, and it's not fake ...

TMR: Have you been surprised by the attention given to the way you look? Tell me how that's become an issue.

STONE: It's been weird because people kind of diss me because I'm white, which is weird. There was one [magazine article] and it said something like ... if I was black then I wouldn't be successful, which is a shame. I mean maybe that's true -- I hope it's not, but I wouldn't be surprised. People are really caught up in that whole thing. That's why I don't like image.

I hate the fact that image has taken over the music industry because it's so not important. It really isn't important because you can't see music. It's not possible for you to see it, so therefore why should it matter whether you're fat, thin, black or white or tall, short, whatever? It doesn't matter. I don't understand that, that's really weird to me.

excerpt from another:

''I remember one of my first interviews with a record company," she recalls. "This guy sits me down and says, 'I'll tell you one thing: I would never sign a white girl with a black girl's voice.' I said to myself, 'You brought me here to tell me that?' That was weird for me 'cause I was little and I didn't understand why he said that.

"I didn't think I had a black voice or a white voice," Stone adds. "I have a voice. How can you put colour to a voice? I think it's pretty stupid to label a certain type of music with a colour. It's not black music, it's music, it's soul."


The girl not only has talent but is wise beyond her years :worship:

SJW
May 1st, 2004, 10:19 PM
isn't "soul sessions" her covers of previously recorded songs done by *black* artists?

so because she sings it, it's no longer soul? :confused:

i like her, i think she has a great voice :)

Bezz
May 1st, 2004, 10:22 PM
isn't "soul sessions" her covers of previously recorded songs done by *black* artists?

so because she sings it, it's no longer soul? :confused:

i like her, i think she has a great voice :)
That appears to be the mentality behind some of the posters on here :confused: :wavey:

Rocketta
May 1st, 2004, 11:08 PM
I don't care if she sings soul or rock to be frank but I'm just interested in this comparison that was made. The one about her being better than any other soul artist out there and I can't remember the rest.

I'm just interested in who are people comparing her to and who do they listen to on a regular basis to claim she's the best new "soul" artist.

Hey if you are a fan of the genre and you listen to them all and then you think Joss is the bees knees then great. However, if you just discovered "throw back" soul just enjoy it but don't go annointing a new artist the best anything.

To me she can sing but if I'm going to go for blue-eyed soul I'm going for one of my favorites of all time, Tina Marie. :D

Tina never got hyped like she could've. I wonder if that had anything to do with her personal life? :scratch:

Madhuri
May 2nd, 2004, 01:47 AM
"I didn't think I had a black voice or a white voice," Stone adds. "I have a voice. How can you put colour to a voice? I think it's pretty stupid to label a certain type of music with a colour. It's not black music, it's music, it's soul."

It may seem "stupid" to Joss but the style of music born out of slavery and the black church as sung by black people has always been call "soul". This style of singing, now adopted by Joss , is instantly identifiable and is why people say Joss "sounds black" If she doesn't consider what she sings to be "black" music then why does she have nothing but black people in her video?




isn't "soul sessions" her covers of previously recorded songs done by *black* artists? so because she sings it, it's no longer soul?

As previously stated, the essence of soul music is that it comes from a real place and you believe the person singing has lived through what they are singing about. Joss is 16 years old singing older soul artist's songs about love relationships that she has undoubtedly never experienced. I understand that she is writing songs for her new album so I will be interested to see if she can convey her own experiences as well as she sings about others.

BigB08822
May 2nd, 2004, 03:52 AM
You people are so caught up in race it is sickening. Chill out and just enjoy the music.

Rocketta
May 2nd, 2004, 04:06 AM
You people are so caught up in race it is sickening. Chill out and just enjoy the music.
Still wondering who you are comparing her to? :cool:

MisterQ
May 2nd, 2004, 04:16 AM
I have never heard Joss sing, so I can't comment on that. But clearly she brings up a lot of pertinent issues.

For better or for worse, race is a very real consideration in the music industry. I have no doubt that Joss' ethnicity is helping her to stand out in the context of the music she sings, and getting the attention of audiences who might not otherwise notice her. And the industry does manipulate artists, whether they are conscious of it or not, to get them to fit into certain molds which should sell well.

I firmly believe that an artist like Joss, who must have a feel for the style she is singing, should not be discouraged from singing a genre of music which developed in connection with a race other than her own. There is a long history of this, from Janis Joplin singing the blues to the great opera singer Jessye Norman. But the question is whether our issues with the workings of the music industry should figure into our appraisal of the singer's work. It's a much tougher decision, because in a certain sense the industry and the singer are inseparable. I don't think there is a clear answer -- everyone has to decide on his/her own.

DunkMachine
May 2nd, 2004, 11:02 AM
Your a fucking moron, dunkmachine! I am SO glad you are 100% sure I wouldn't be at the concert if she were black! That is TOTALLY wrong. I like people based on their voice and if she were black and had the same voice you can bet I would be at the concert. I HATE what you said.Oh please cut the fucking act okay!! Joss Stone is the "bearded lady" of soulmusic. Her is singing is OK but because she's doesn't look like the typical soul musician, "people have to see it for themselves". As aforementioned artists, like India Arie, Erykha Badu and also Malik Pendleton are far more established and skilled but I doubt you ever went to their concerts.

Admit it it's the wierdness factor, same happened to Vanilla Ice, Anastacia, Eminem and now Stone.