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GoDominique
Apr 28th, 2004, 12:58 AM
Vote!

Yummy
Apr 28th, 2004, 12:59 AM
Dominique Van Roost :hearts: She'd have beaten them BOTH only if she played at her best and not the usual 9000 notches below that.

faboozadoo15
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:05 AM
Dominique Van Roost :hearts: She'd have beaten them BOTH only if she played at her best and not the usual 9000 notches below that.
lol

my vote-- seles, duh...

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:06 AM
Clearly when both played well, Seles was better.

But no Graf fan will ever admit that, even though they know it. Oh well...

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Steffi. Their rivalry was unprecidented, but I have to say Steffi. My vote was closer than Bill over Kwame, Monica, had she not been stabbed, who knows what history she could have wraught on the WTA tour, but she has done enough, and will always be remebered as one of the greatest ever. But, she could never win Wimbledon, her movement wasn't that great. She had the mind for clay, and the shots for hardcourt, but she couldn't put together 7 consecutive wins at the All-England Club. That was one the main deciding factors in my vote. But yeah, I vote Steffi.

darren cahill
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:10 AM
why was it important to do this poll again though? we did it maybe around x-mas of last year and it had something like 5 pages of votes and ended up pretty much a tie...same old same old

:zzz:

Yummy
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:11 AM
The poster just proved how you don't even need to ask a real question to get people to respond to such threads . Geez some of you here are so fricking easy :rolleyes:

The question could very well have been who's worse ? Graf or Seles and now you'll will look like a fool :haha:

faboozadoo15
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:15 AM
lol... but it's a tie... so it would be the same either way.

Jarrett
Apr 28th, 2004, 01:30 AM
my god, this topic should be banned.

Spirit
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Is this the 2004 presidential election?

SelesFan70
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:15 PM
To avoid endless defenses of both women, I voted for both! :D

Kart
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Is this poll about who has better hair ?

I voted both for the same reasons as SelesFan70 :yeah:.

Daniel
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Seles

space_eef03
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:24 PM
I like them both. :)

Ballbuster
Apr 28th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Hey Fabadoooza!

I voted for Graf. When I could care less about either of them. (remember that Serena v. Hingis poll)?

Besides, enough of both of them already, it is not like we are going to see them in action - or making any impact upon the game, besides accepting token awards.

Steffica Greles
Apr 28th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Seles was marginally the better player. Graf had by far the more successful career in the end. Graf *did* beat Seles on some notable occasions, but having seen them both playing full throttle, it was Seles' game that was more effective and deadly. But that's not impartial.

You can't objectively vote for anyone other than Graf. (But Seles was better in her hey day).

DA FOREHAND
Apr 28th, 2004, 05:32 PM
Steffi had the more complete game

Glenn
Apr 28th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Graf.

faboozadoo15
Apr 28th, 2004, 11:17 PM
Steffi had the more complete game
i'd disagree. that backhand was a sitting duck when she went against power. but to her credit, she ran around it so much better than anyone may ever do again...

jrm
Apr 28th, 2004, 11:27 PM
Monica ... always and forever

Martian Willow
Apr 28th, 2004, 11:28 PM
...I voted Neither, I haven't slept with either of them yet... :)

ktwtennis
Apr 29th, 2004, 12:07 AM
Only one of the million threads, but Monica...

Martian Willow
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:35 PM
...need seven more people to vote for Monica... :)

selking
Aug 18th, 2004, 07:36 PM
hey we allready had this

Bероника
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:58 PM
Always Monica

Bristol
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:58 PM
What a F&"@#$ing idiot is Go dominique what actually is the point of this thread obviously just another loser looking to start an argument. We have had many of these threads just about a day ago with the match up tournament where we had about a 5 page thread on this. What a complete loser you are! You havent even explained what the thread is for

Joana
Aug 18th, 2004, 09:59 PM
I absolutely love this thread. :yeah:

pokey camp
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:10 PM
Lol. Clearly both. Why pick just one All-Time Great when you can pick two?

!<blocparty>!
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:26 PM
when both playing at their peak, seles was the better player IMO. The end :)

FaceyFacem
Aug 18th, 2004, 10:51 PM
what is this about? preference? better player? it better not be a ripoff...see my threads of the last few days

Belgium = Best
Aug 20th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Graf

wongqks
Aug 20th, 2004, 11:38 AM
next time when you do a poll like that, make sure you tick the button where you can see who has voted to avoid mulitple voting ;)

MistyGrey
Aug 20th, 2004, 11:49 AM
my god, this topic should be banned.

:worship:

Emiel Goelen
Aug 20th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Out of those two, Graf has always been my favourite player, although I have the most respect for Monica too!

leeber
Nov 26th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Seles

Tatanka
Nov 26th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Monica!

:Rawwb:
Nov 26th, 2005, 01:59 PM
53 ALL
:help:

jj74
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Steffi, but i like Monica too

Bounty Hunter
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:12 PM
I like them both, but..... I feel that Monica is/was the better player.

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:14 PM
i picked seles purely bcos of calimero!!!
its impossible for me now to ever like graf because of that moron

:Rawwb:
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:16 PM
i picked seles purely bcos of calimero!!!
its impossible for me now to ever like graf because of that moron

Lol. Good choiec

Mother_Marjorie
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Steffi. Their rivalry was unprecidented, but I have to say Steffi. My vote was closer than Bill over Kwame, Monica, had she not been stabbed, who knows what history she could have wraught on the WTA tour, but she has done enough, and will always be remebered as one of the greatest ever.

Maureen Connolly dominated women's tennis at a young age and became women's tennis first calendar year grand slam winner. An injury ended her career very early on. Maureen Connolly is an example of a "greatest ever".
In my opinion, Maureen Connolly is the "greatest ever" young talent to enter the sport since Steffi Graf and Monica Seles.

Maureen never had the opportunity to stage a comeback in her career. She passed away in her late 30's of cancer.

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Maureen Connolly dominated women's tennis at a young age and became women's tennis first calendar year grand slam winner. An injury ended her career very early on. Maureen Connolly is an example of a "greatest ever".
In my opinion, Maureen Connolly is the "greatest ever" young talent to enter the sport since Steffi Graf and Monica Seles.

Maureen never had the opportunity to stage a comeback in her career. She passed away in her late 30's of cancer.


If Seles had been wounded so severely that she never could have played again her legacy would be far greater.

But today everybody knows that

1. she could have played again at USO 90
2. she returned at the age of 21 but didn't win a lost in the next 10 years.

Way overrated, that girl ...

Kenny
Nov 26th, 2005, 03:04 PM
Seles

V's a star
Nov 26th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Steffi. No one knows what would have happend if monica wasnt stabbed

hingis-seles
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:01 PM
1. she could have played again at USO 90

She did.

matthias
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Graf

Derek.
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Seles. :bowdown:

Derek.
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:04 PM
Monica is winning, Cali! :nerner:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:08 PM
If Seles had been wounded so severely that she never could have played again her legacy would be far greater.

But today everybody knows that

1. she could have played again at USO 90
2. she returned at the age of 21 but didn't win a lost in the next 10 years.

Way overrated, that girl ...

EVERYONE knows that..

Graf's legacy is this: a great player in the late 80's (before the arrival of Seles), a terrible ambassador to tennis, and a major beneficiary to one the greatest tragedies in sport, the stabbing of the true #1 Monica Seles perpetrated by one of her jealous psycho fans!


Steffi Graf was named by the prestigious Sports Illustrated at the beginning of this millenium (2001) as the MOST Overrated Female Tennis Player in History.

nice try Gunther-mero377.

Maryamator
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:11 PM
steffi offcourse

hingis-seles
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Steffi won RG 6 times. Only twice did she win while Monica was in the draw as well and once during her 6 title runs did she beat Monica on the way to the title. Both were post-stabbing. Monica won all 3 of her RG titles with Steffi in the draw (beating her in 2 finals).

Steffi won AO 4 times. Monica was not in the draw even one of those times. Monica also won 4 AO titles. Steffi was entered twice in the draw and Monica beat her once on the way to the title.

Steffi won Wimbledon 7 times. Monica was in the draw 4 out of the 7 times Steffi won and Steffi beat her twice along the way to the title (1989, 1992). Monica never won Wimbledon.

Monica won 2 US Opens. Both times, Steffi was in the draw, but she never had to face her. Steffi won the US Open 5 times. Thrice out of those 4 times, Monica was in the draw and Steffi played her in two runs to the title (1995, 1996)

So, out of the 9 GS titles that Monica won, Steffi was in the draw 7 times. She had to beat Steffi thrice on her way to winning the title. 78% of Monica's Slam titles were when Steffi was playing that Slam as well. :eek: 33% of her Slam victories included a win over Steffi on her way to the title. :eek: :worship:

Out of the 22 GS Steffi won, Monica was in the draw 9 times. She had to beat Monica five times on her way to winning the title. 41% of Steffi's Slam titles were when Monica was playing that Slam as well. :tape: 23% of her Slam victories included a win over Monica on her way to the title. :lol:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:12 PM
no doubt, Monica ... :)

SloKid
Nov 26th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Calimero didn't post a single Steffi pic here...:scratch: :confused:

Monika all the way, I grew up cheering for here...She was, is and always will be my fave...:yeah:

Stamp Paid
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Monica.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Seles, she represented the US of A :bounce:

LH2HBH
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:27 PM
MONICA

#1. Two-Handed Groundstrokes
#2. Lefty
#3. The ORIGINAL Screamer

Stamp Paid
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:42 PM
MONICA

#1. Two-Handed Groundstrokes
#2. Lefty
#3. The ORIGINAL Screamer

And Monica was waaaaaaaaay prettier.

daniela86
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Monica by far :bigclap: :rocker: :rocker2:

Derek.
Nov 26th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Monica leads by 17 votes! :banana:

Cali :nerner:

Johno_uk
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Definetely Monica!! :) She was way better than Graf at her peak.

R&J
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Monica Seles

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Monica is winning, Cali! :nerner:


Of course.
I have always said that this WTAWorld is English-speaking and heavily anti-German. Selesians, Navratilovers and Williamsonites unite to diss Graf. They have the same agenda. To denigrate a German girl who is universially known to be the best, the most beautiful and the nicest female tennis player ever.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:37 PM
Of course.
I have always said that this WTAWorld is English-speaking and heavily anti-German.

:worship: :worship: :worship:


I think most of us are just anti-Calimero :wavey:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Calimero didn't post a single Steffi pic here...:scratch: :confused:

Monika all the way, I grew up cheering for here...She was, is and always will be my fave...:yeah:


I just forgot it ....

http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/11sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking6.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Laufen2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen4.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen5.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch1.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/24md.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/02sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/09sd.jpg

:Rawwb:
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Of course.
I have always said that this WTAWorld is English-speaking and heavily anti-German. Selesians, Navratilovers and Williamsonites unite to diss Graf. They have the same agenda. To denigrate a German girl who is universially known to be the best, the most beautiful and the nicest female tennis player ever.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

:haha: Stop it Cali, youre killing me :haha: :rolls:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:39 PM
I think most of us are just anti-Calimero :wavey:


As I am the most prolific German poster here in WTAWorld that is the same ....

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:39 PM
I just forgot it ....

http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/11sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking6.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Laufen2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen4.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen5.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch1.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/24md.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/02sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/09sd.jpg

:zzz:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:40 PM
And Monica was waaaaaaaaay prettier.


Everybody's a comedian .... :lol:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:40 PM
As I am the most prolific German poster here in WTAWorld that is the same ....

Again, giving yourself WAY too much credit

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:49 PM
http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monica01.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew10.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew24.jpg

http://www.monica-seles.com/photos/archive/Jeune/92mahwah.jpg (http://www.monica-seles.com/en/photogallery.asp?notournoi=198993#thumbphoto)

http://galeon.hispavista.com/seles/12.jpg

http://images.absolutenow.com/rp/6130_seles_43044.jpg

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:51 PM
http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monica01.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew10.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew24.jpg

http://www.monica-seles.com/photos/archive/Jeune/92mahwah.jpg (http://www.monica-seles.com/en/photogallery.asp?notournoi=198993#thumbphoto)

http://galeon.hispavista.com/seles/12.jpg

http://images.absolutenow.com/rp/6130_seles_43044.jpg


A nice girl.
But not exactly a beauty.
Far away from the Graf mould ....

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:57 PM
A nice girl.
But not exactly a beauty.
Far away from the Graf mould ....


http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/08/04/andrewchild.jpg


Yep Gunther-mero377, Monica is so far away from this mould ? You are NUTS---Monica is way prettier...

:lol:

:Rawwb:
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:58 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/08/04/andrewchild.jpg


Yep Gunther-mero377, Monica is so far away from this mould.

:lol:

Isnt that Agassi's head?

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 07:59 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/08/04/andrewchild.jpg


Yep Gunther-mero377, Monica is so far away from this mould.

:lol:

What does a fake Steffi picture with Agassi's face prove? :confused:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:01 PM
What does a fake Steffi picture with Agassi's face prove? :confused:


gunther-mero, that is really your Steffi Garf at Wimby.... :lol:

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:03 PM
i think the fact that is still looks like her!
everytime you post those pics cali all i see is THE NOSE!!!! :eek:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:03 PM
http://www.geocities.com/selestribe/selespix/gal1/images1/90berlin1.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew12.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew15.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew29.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/news/2000/05/25/flashback_french1990/seles_sm.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/edberg/web/seles/bts/ms5.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/edberg/web/seles/bts/ms3.jpg

http://www.infotennis.com/photos/joueuses/images/Seles%20006%20232%20RG_jpg.jpg

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:03 PM
1) Beauty-niceness-character etc Seles without any doubt
2) game level mmmmmmmm I'm afraid that Graf was a bit better........

LDVTennis
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:04 PM
What does a fake Steffi picture with Agassi's face prove? :confused:

Now that you asked?

It proves that tennis anus is a psychopath.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Now that you asked?

It proves that tennis anus is a psychopath.

Or has a sense of humor :shrug:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:05 PM
http://www.geocities.com/selestribe/selespix/gal1/images1/90berlin1.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew12.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew15.jpg

http://www.monicaseles.de/monica/new/monicanew29.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/news/2000/05/25/flashback_french1990/seles_sm.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/edberg/web/seles/bts/ms5.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/edberg/web/seles/bts/ms3.jpg

http://www.infotennis.com/photos/joueuses/images/Seles%20006%20232%20RG_jpg.jpg


:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :cool:
amazing gallery! :worship:

Mother_Marjorie
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:05 PM
I have to go with the seven-time Wimbledon Champion, Steffi Graf. :wavey:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Now that you asked?

It proves that tennis anus is a psychopath.


Look who's talking, the screaming psychopath himself--LDVTennis... :lol:

:lol:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:06 PM
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :cool:
amazing gallery! :worship:


:) :wavey:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:07 PM
What does a fake Steffi picture with Agassi's face prove? :confused:

that's proof that your idol is not emmmhhh a beauty goddess....emmmmh :shrug:

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:09 PM
id rather see the fake steffi pic than all the stats under the sun or the same boring and not easy on the eyes photos that cali constantly posts!
let me guess cali, steffi wiped her ass more time than any other player in her career?

No Name Face
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:09 PM
Seles!

wait! i like seles! i dislike neither. who changed the poll around?

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Now that you asked?

It proves that tennis anus is a psychopath.

hands off my aussie friend! grrrrrr

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:11 PM
that's proof that your idol is not emmmhhh a beauty goddess....emmmmh :shrug:


That from a NAVI fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:12 PM
id rather see the fake steffi pic than all the stats under the sun or the same boring and not easy on the eyes photos that cali constantly posts!
let me guess cali, steffi wiped her ass more time than any other player in her career?


But you have realised that JenCap has a below-average IQ, no?

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:14 PM
What I don't get is that almost as many posters dislike Graf as Seles! :eek:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:15 PM
I don't like:
Graf's depressing character
Graf's coldness
Graf's inability to smiling naturally
Graf's backhand
Graf's net game
Graf's face in press conferences
Graf's nose
Graf's face during Agassi matches! (she seems to watch a greek tragedy)
Graf's husband
etc. etc

KV
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:16 PM
But you have realised that JenCap has a below-average IQ, no?
Neither I dislike. Not surprised you're here discussing.

BTW, can imagine you chatting about soccer with Bayern fans, think about title wins for the past 40 years. Don't know how many they won, too much too count. :D ;)

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes.

:lol: :wavey:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes.

:lol: :wavey:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Neither I dislike. Not surprised you're here discussing.

BTW, can imagine you chatting about soccer with Bayern fans, think about title wins for the past 40 years. Don't know how many they won, too much too count. :D ;)


tricky dislike poll.... :lol:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:22 PM
But you have realised that JenCap has a below-average IQ, no?

poor Jen, that's really mean......

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:24 PM
jenny has a high school diploma she has a loving close-knit family and more money and adoring fans than you could ever dream of having!
you know what jenny will be doing tonight because of that deeply hurtful comment you just made?crying herself to sleep im almost certain of it because she along with everyone else on this board cares what you think!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:29 PM
I don't like:
Graf's depressing character
Graf's coldness
Graf's inability to smiling naturally
Graf's backhand
Graf's net game
Graf's face in press conferences
Graf's nose
Graf's face during Agassi matches! (she seems to watch a greek tragedy)
Graf's husbandetc. etc



:haha: :haha: :haha: :lol:

WhatTheDeuce
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:31 PM
GoDom changed the thread question :haha:

Really pathetic.

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:32 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes. :lol: :wavey:

And ALL of the Graf-anatics VOTED (70 votes) so far that they DISLIKE Graf...as well as the Selesians (92 votes) so far

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: but this has been a fun poll :haha:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Godominique is a wizard....... :D

WhatTheDeuce
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes. :lol: :wavey:

And ALL of the Graf-anatics VOTED that they DISLIKE Graf...

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: but this have fun :haha:
Youre taking it too seriously.

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes. :lol: :wavey:

And ALL of the Graf-anatics VOTED that they DISLIKE Graf...

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: but this have fun :haha:

that's fault of that diabolique godominique!

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Godominique is a wizard....... :D

he/she truly is but it was FUN... :) ;)

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:36 PM
Youre taking it too seriously.


I'm rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off... :lol: ... :haha: :haha: :haha:

:wavey:

Bounty Hunter
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Now, now........ not nice to change the subject title... :lol: :lol:

tennislover
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:40 PM
Now, now........ not nice to change the subject title... :lol: :lol:

definetely not nice..... :D

RenaSlam.
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:50 PM
Neither.

Both tremendous champions.

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Now, now........ not nice to change the subject title... :lol: :lol:


So SOMEBODY did CHEAT and EDITED the title of this poll because the Graf-anatics were LOSING BADLY ........Now that's really low and cheap, it's like the Seles fans are being stabbed in the back...


;) :lol:

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Graf or Seles - who do you like? changed to who do you dislike?

Vote!

Last edited by GoDominique : Today at 09:09 PM.

Bounty Hunter
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:57 PM
So SOMEBODY did CHEAT and EDITED the title of this poll because the Graf-anatics were LOSING BADLY ........Now that's really low and cheap, it's like the Seles fans are being stabbed in the back...

;) :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if can't beat 'em, stab 'em ... typical... :lol: :lol:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Attention: Seles fans and other Seles supporters

We have been DUPED by a very misleading tricky poll-------The question says whom do you dislike? Graf or Seles ?

But either way, Seles STILL wins by a mile on who most tennis fans on the WTAworld likes.

:lol: :wavey:


:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Dumb and dumber ....

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:00 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if can't beat 'em, stab 'em ... typical... :lol: :lol:


exactly :lol: ...now the results of this poll has lots of asterisks just like those infamous asterisk slams. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:01 PM
So SOMEBODY did CHEAT and EDITED the title of this poll because the Graf-anatics were LOSING BADLY ........Now that's really low and cheap, it's like the Seles fans are being stabbed in the back...

;) :lol:


Actually GoDominique had PM'ed me and many other Graf fans and we all voted "Seles" in this poll because we KNEW what GoDominique meant!

Despair and die!

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:02 PM
Actually GoDominique had PM'ed me and many other Graf fans and we all voted "Seles" in this poll because we KNEW what GoDominique meant!

Despair and die!


as ALWAYS... even in the polls, Graf's results are tarnished!

now stabbed yourself idiotpsycho-mero. :lol:

Joana
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:06 PM
GoDom :worship:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I don't like:
Graf's depressing character
Graf's coldness
Graf's inability to smiling naturally
...


When Navratilova retired there was not that much talk about character and class .....

"Her relationship with the press was always distant and she rarely showed her personal side. But when she let her blond hair down and allowed a hint of a smile to cross her face, she immediately infused the room with her class and elegance."

"Mary Carillo once asked, “Have you ever seen a more reluctant superstar [than Graf]?” Now, “Miss Personality” is appearing on Letterman. Once dismissed as an Ice Maiden with nothing to say, Graf now juggles a string of emotional apotheoses, crying at virtually every Grand Slam. Reporters soon learned not to bypass her press conferences, knowing Steffi (her face rich with character) would offer thoughtful reflections on lobs, lets and life."

"Steffi Graf exuded class, character, charisma, consistency and convincing craft to reach the pinnacle."


Ever asked yourself why the Graf admiration thread in BFTP is about 7 times as long as Navi's?
No, it's not only Graf's superior beauty or slam tally.
It's about character and class.

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:22 PM
When Navratilova retired there was not that much talk about character and class .....

"Her relationship with the press was always distant and she rarely showed her personal side. But when she let her blond hair down and allowed a hint of a smile to cross her face, she immediately infused the room with her class and elegance."

""Steffi Graf exuded class, character, charisma, consistency and convincing craft to reach the pinnacle."


Ever asked yourself why the Graf admiration thread in BFTP is about 7 times as long as Navi's?
No, it's not only Graf's superior beauty or slam tally.
It's about character and class.


Your girl had ZERO social skills and was aTERRIBLE ambassador for tennis... :haha: :haha: Gunther-mero is getting so desperate :sad: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Your girl had ZERO social skills and was aTERRIBLE ambassador for tennis... :haha: :haha: Gunther-mero is getting so desperate :sad: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:


STEFFI GRAF
Germany
Love All
She gave up tennis but not the adoration of her fans. And she's still a champion to troubled kids around the world

A few sports stars win something rarer than trophies or championships - an enduring place in the public's affections. Steffi Graf is one of them. She hung up her racket five years ago after winning an amazing 22 Grand Slam titles, but that doesn't mean she is any less busy or beloved. Married since 2001 to fellow tennis champ Andre Agassi, the seven-time Wimbledon winner devotes much of her time these days to son Jaden Gil, 3, and daughter Jaz, 1 - and much of the rest to kids far less fortunate than hers. Both in her native Germany and in projects in Kosovo, Mozambique and South Africa, a nonprofit founded by Graf helps thousands of kids traumatized by war, persecution, violence and exile. "I've always felt very protective of kids," says Graf, 35. "Maybe it will be able to change at least some children's lives for the better." It's a goal as powerful and direct as her approach to tennis, and to life.

In the 1990s, Graf got to know the work of psychiatrists at the Outpatient Clinic for Refugee Children and their Families at the University of Hamburg-Eppendorf. With them, she funded a charity called Children for Tomorrow in 1998. "[These children] have been overlooked for so long," she says. "So I thought I'd see if I can bring awareness to the subject, and maybe help on starting some projects." That work proved to be both satisfying and heartbreaking. Dropping in on the Cape Town project, for instance, she was moved by the children's cheerfulness in the face of misery. "These kids have nothing, they've been abused and abandoned and thrown on garbage heaps," Graf remembers. "And still they come to you and even have big smiles on their faces."

She brings to the task the same energy and concentration that once helped her dominate women's tennis like no player before or since. During her professional career, which started in 1982 and ended in 1999 after a long battle with injuries, the woman whom many Germans still fondly call Fräulein Forehand won an Olympic gold medal in Seoul in 1988 plus 106 other international singles tournaments. Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert may be ahead of her in total singles wins, but for her sheer persistence and dominance of her sport - she was ranked No. 1 for a record 377 weeks - many consider Graf the greatest female tennis player ever. "I love to work out, I love to run, to be physically challenged," she muses, "and tennis was perfect for that."

Other challenges came off court. In 1993, a disturbed Graf fan stabbed Monica Seles and professed to have done it for his idol; he was sentenced to two years' probation. Her father, Peter, who introduced her to the sport, was convicted of tax evasion in 1997. She refused to let these shocks interfere with her game or her drive. "There is a reason you go through different things in life, and they make you who you are," she says. "So I don't fight the tough times. I try to understand them, and I try to work through them." Her country has stuck by her. This spring, in a poll published by TV magazine tv14, Graf was voted "the Germans' greatest role model" for her trustworthiness and authenticity. "I've always wanted to see if I could make a difference in somebody else's life in a positive way," she says. Few would argue that she hasn't.
— By Ursula Sautter/Bonn. With reporting by Laura A. Locke/San Francisco

From the Oct. 11, 2004 issue of TIME Europe magazine
Posted Sunday, October 2, 2004; 12:34 BST

VeeReeDavJCap81
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:30 PM
STEFFI GRAF
Germany
Love All
She gave up tennis but not the adoration of her fans. And she's still a champion to troubled kids around the world

A few sports stars win something rarer than trophies or championships - an enduring place in the public's affections. Steffi Graf is one of them. She hung up her racket five years ago after winning an amazing 22 Grand Slam titles, but that doesn't mean she is any less busy or beloved. Married since 2001 to fellow tennis champ Andre Agassi, the seven-time Wimbledon winner devotes much of her time these days to son Jaden Gil, 3, and daughter Jaz, 1 - and much of the rest to kids far less fortunate than hers. Both in her native Germany and in projects in Kosovo, Mozambique and South Africa, a nonprofit founded by Graf helps thousands of kids traumatized by war, persecution, violence and exile. "I've always felt very protective of kids," says Graf, 35. "Maybe it will be able to change at least some children's lives for the better." It's a goal as powerful and direct as her approach to tennis, and to life.

In the 1990s, Graf got to know the work of psychiatrists at the Outpatient Clinic for Refugee Children and their Families at the University of Hamburg-Eppendorf. With them, she funded a charity called Children for Tomorrow in 1998. "[These children] have been overlooked for so long," she says. "So I thought I'd see if I can bring awareness to the subject, and maybe help on starting some projects." That work proved to be both satisfying and heartbreaking. Dropping in on the Cape Town project, for instance, she was moved by the children's cheerfulness in the face of misery. "These kids have nothing, they've been abused and abandoned and thrown on garbage heaps," Graf remembers. "And still they come to you and even have big smiles on their faces."

She brings to the task the same energy and concentration that once helped her dominate women's tennis like no player before or since. During her professional career, which started in 1982 and ended in 1999 after a long battle with injuries, the woman whom many Germans still fondly call Fräulein Forehand won an Olympic gold medal in Seoul in 1988 plus 106 other international singles tournaments. Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert may be ahead of her in total singles wins, but for her sheer persistence and dominance of her sport - she was ranked No. 1 for a record 377 weeks - many consider Graf the greatest female tennis player ever. "I love to work out, I love to run, to be physically challenged," she muses, "and tennis was perfect for that."

Other challenges came off court. In 1993, a disturbed Graf fan stabbed Monica Seles and professed to have done it for his idol; he was sentenced to two years' probation. Her father, Peter, who introduced her to the sport, was convicted of tax evasion in 1997. She refused to let these shocks interfere with her game or her drive. "There is a reason you go through different things in life, and they make you who you are," she says. "So I don't fight the tough times. I try to understand them, and I try to work through them." Her country has stuck by her. This spring, in a poll published by TV magazine tv14, Graf was voted "the Germans' greatest role model" for her trustworthiness and authenticity. "I've always wanted to see if I could make a difference in somebody else's life in a positive way," she says. Few would argue that she hasn't.
— By Ursula Sautter/Bonn. With reporting by Laura A. Locke/San Francisco

From the Oct. 11, 2004 issue of TIME Europe magazine
Posted Sunday, October 2, 2004; 12:34 BST

:zzz:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:32 PM
:zzz:


Wake me up when TIME has something comparable about the Willies .... :lol:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:34 PM
STEFFI GRAF
Germany
Love All
Posted Sunday, October 2, 2004; 12:34 BST


Again, your robotic boring girl had ZERO social skills and was aTERRIBLE ambassador for tennis... OMG, Gunther-mero is getting so VERY desperate... :lol:


see ya gunther-mero :lol:

Derek.
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Wake me up when TIME has something comparable about the Willies .... :lol:

Are you a fan of any other players or are you going to dwell on Steffi until the day you die? :shrug:

tennis aus
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Wake me up when TIME has something comparable about the Willies .... :lol:


:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

bye idiot-mero... :lol:

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Are you a fan of any other players or are you going to dwell on Steffi until the day you die? :shrug:


I like the Belgians.

But I'm going to dwell on Steffi until the day I die.

irma
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:40 PM
:zzz:

insulting somebody the person doesn't even know is oke, but a reaction on that is boring?

we have a word for that and it starts with an h!

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:53 PM
cali u want to know why steffis support thread was longer than navis?
she has u as a "fan" what do you expect?if u post half as much crap there as u do here her thread is bound to be longer than all other threads combined!!!

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:54 PM
cali u want to know why steffis support thread was longer than navis?
she has u as a "fan" what do you expect?if u post half as much crap there as u do here her thread is bound to be longer than all other threads combined!!!


Only 1.5 % of the posts in this thread are from mw, dumb woman ....

*abby*
Nov 26th, 2005, 09:59 PM
dont you dare call me dumb you know nothing about me!
you are pathetic you obviously have no life or friends as you sit at your computer all day trying to "prove" that steffi is the greatest (which she is not) and pissing off almost everyone in GM!
as for me being dumb?yeah i must be that is why im gettin a degree!

Calimero377
Nov 26th, 2005, 10:19 PM
dont you dare call me dumb you know nothing about me!
you are pathetic you obviously have no life or friends as you sit at your computer all day trying to "prove" that steffi is the greatest (which she is not) and pissing off almost everyone in GM!
as for me being dumb?yeah i must be that is why im gettin a degree!


You suggested that the Graf admirations thread were as long as it is only because I had posted a lot there. Without checking this first. That is dumb.

What "degree" do you get?
Police academy?

hingis-seles
Nov 27th, 2005, 06:12 AM
I just forgot it ....

http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/11sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Biking6.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Laufen2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen4.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Lesen5.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch3.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch2.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/Stretch1.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/24md.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/02sd.jpg
http://www.steffi-graf.net/images/full/09sd.jpg

Ok. WOW. Very, very hot! Those legs....:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Hingie
Nov 27th, 2005, 06:15 AM
I've finally come to a realisation. It's actually not Graf that i dislike. It's just that the poor girl seems to attract some really deranged fans that feel compelled to defend her at all costs - fans who seem to think that she may visit this message board and secretly thank them in her sleep or something.

Very weird.

hingis-seles
Nov 27th, 2005, 06:15 AM
GoDom :haha: :worship:

Lemonskin.
Nov 27th, 2005, 09:08 AM
:lol: @ GoDom :lol:

Mr_Molik
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:22 AM
woah lets not get too into it or anything

tennislover
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:25 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if can't beat 'em, stab 'em ... typical... :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

tennislover
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:30 AM
how about to ban that diabolique go dominique? :drool: :drool: :drool:

Munchen
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:57 AM
Graf. :)

Kenny
Nov 27th, 2005, 02:09 PM
Why did you edit your thread? I said Seles, but that's because I liked Seles. Now many votes are null then.. making this thread crap. oh well.

Martian KC
Nov 27th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Damn you, Godom!

Wojtek
Nov 27th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Seles is leading :lol:

Wojtek
Nov 27th, 2005, 03:32 PM
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20001008/1mon.gifhttp://www.princerton.fsnet.co.uk/steffigraf268.jpg

Monica and Steffi- big difference :lol:

creep
Nov 27th, 2005, 04:06 PM
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20001008/1mon.gifhttp://www.princerton.fsnet.co.uk/steffigraf268.jpg

Monica and Steffi- big difference :lol:

:lol: Monica looks constipated, and Steffi looks like Andrea Jaeger on the Atkins diet..

tennislover
Nov 27th, 2005, 07:42 PM
http://www.princerton.fsnet.co.uk/steffigraf268.jpg

:scared: :scared: :scared:

tennis aus
Nov 27th, 2005, 07:44 PM
http://www.princerton.fsnet.co.uk/steffigraf268.jpg

:scared: :scared: :scared:


true, true.. :tape:

:lol:

M&M
Nov 27th, 2005, 08:22 PM
i luv them both...

Zauber
Nov 27th, 2005, 08:31 PM
yes I liked them both very much.
They were great tennis players.
I actually liked both their personalities. Both very likeble people in their own way.
I just disapproved the way Monica Seles handled her tragic event on the tennis court.

Calimero377
Nov 27th, 2005, 08:45 PM
http://www.princerton.fsnet.co.uk/steffigraf268.jpg

:scared: :scared: :scared:


The shape of things to come .... :worship:

*abby*
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:27 PM
wot legs open?

CondiLicious
Nov 29th, 2005, 02:23 AM
Again, your robotic boring girl had ZERO social skills and was aTERRIBLE ambassador for tennis... OMG, Gunther-mero is getting so VERY desperate... :lol:


see ya gunther-mero :lol:

You remind me of selesrules...

Billy Moonshine
Nov 29th, 2005, 04:25 AM
I love them both, I think that`s allowed!

Mr_Molik
Nov 29th, 2005, 10:02 AM
omg they both got banned :woohoo: about bloody time

~lollipop_girl~
Nov 29th, 2005, 11:57 AM
I dislike Graf!

Steffica Greles
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:24 PM
...as for me being dumb?yeah i must be that is why im gettin a degree!

Haha!!! That's so funny written with Jen as your avatar.

Does Cali make you like soooo angry? Is he like the bad guys in the cartoons? Is he, like, you know, a fucking retard?

I love Jen. Hehe.

JulesVerne
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:43 PM
omg they both got banned :woohoo: about bloody time
:yeah: that pair were really obsessive.

tennislover
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:45 PM
omg they both got banned :woohoo: about bloody time

how did you know that?

tennislover
Nov 30th, 2005, 01:52 PM
if Cali and tennis_aus are banned, my heart is broken :sad:
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
(a river of tears)