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Volcana
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:12 PM
These are two players who get injured a LOT.

Knizzle
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:13 PM
If you mean in Warsaw, I'd say it's a GREAT chance.

DUNEMAN
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:16 PM
Hey, I am already selling tickets to my friends. :)

Knizzle
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Hey, I am already selling tickets to my friends. :)
Hopefully they are not wolf tickets.

sartrista7
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:20 PM
The Sveta v Amelie SF will be a good test for Sveta, to see if she can maintain her spring form. I think she could well sneak into the final.

Hopefully there will be a Sveta v Vera final at the end... that would be fun :)

pav
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Zero(hopefull) none(wishfull) zilch(bashfull) not much(dopefull)

pav
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:25 PM
The Sveta v Amelie SF will be a good test for Sveta, to see if she can maintain her spring form. I think she could well sneak into the final.

Hopefully there will be a Sveta v Vera final at the end... that would be fun :)

like the sound of that final! :banana:

tennisIlove09
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:27 PM
I hope they stay healthy. If that happens, I'd put money on it.

mauresmofan
Apr 26th, 2004, 08:33 PM
Well seeing as they were both in the final last year I think it's only fair if they have a rematch seeing as Venus collected her infamous stomach muscle strain in that match. Venus and Amlie seem to have really good match ups so it would be a nice way for the tournament to bow out.

DUNEMAN
Apr 26th, 2004, 09:45 PM
Hopefully they are not wolf tickets.

Thats why I got the $$$$$ up front :kiss:

Sonja
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:13 PM
I'd love to see the two (both healthy) in the final!

*Fingers crossed that it happens*

jenny161185
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:27 PM
Id love if both ladies got to the final UNINJURED!!

CanadianGuy
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:40 PM
This should be Venus's first true test, if she can win here beating Amelie, then her comeback will be complete. However, I like Amelie's chance more, so the odds should be favoring Amelie:)

Ballbuster
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Amelie only have maybe two weapons. A first serve out wide and an across the court reply. Both of which Venus can return.

Amelie cannot handle venus' serves.

Knizzle
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:49 PM
This should be Venus's first true test, if she can win here beating Amelie, then her comeback will be complete. However, I like Amelie's chance more, so the odds should be favoring Amelie:)
Why??

CanadianGuy
Apr 26th, 2004, 10:57 PM
Why??
As good as Venus is playing recently on green clay, but she did not have an easy walk on everyone to the title. Amelie is 2x better version of Conchita, faster, stronger, more variety less counter punching. Sure Venus can serve all her want, but Amelie is not bad at receiving them either. I'm sure if Amelie is healthy, she will beat Venus. But any good match can turn bad. But if either one is playing at their best, Amelie is the on I like more on red clay.

Rtael
Apr 26th, 2004, 11:06 PM
As good as Venus is playing recently on green clay, but she did not have an easy walk on everyone to the title. Amelie is 2x better version of Conchita, faster, stronger, more variety less counter punching. Sure Venus can serve all her want, but Amelie is not bad at receiving them either. I'm sure if Amelie is healthy, she will beat Venus. But any good match can turn bad. But if either one is playing at their best, Amelie is the on I like more on red clay.

More variety than CONCHITA!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

CanadianGuy
Apr 26th, 2004, 11:09 PM
More variety than CONCHITA!? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah I know lol:D topspins :rolleyes: Venus got it easy:)

~ The Leopard ~
Apr 27th, 2004, 12:25 AM
*hoping for a great final here, and for Amelie to defend her title*

apoet29
Apr 27th, 2004, 12:39 AM
I think both ladies have a good shot at the title, but the real question will be "who has more confidence?" Amelia, as amazing as she is, really lacks confidence in big situations. She was playing better tennis than Lindsay at AI, but nerves got the best of her and that seems to be a real issue. Venus, on the other hand, broke through at FCC with her first tournament win in 14 months on her worst surface and played well in Fed Cup. So I think whoever holds her nerves the best will win in the final.

Jericho
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:07 AM
I hope so, but crazier things have happened

Knizzle
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:43 AM
As good as Venus is playing recently on green clay, but she did not have an easy walk on everyone to the title. Amelie is 2x better version of Conchita, faster, stronger, more variety less counter punching. Sure Venus can serve all her want, but Amelie is not bad at receiving them either. I'm sure if Amelie is healthy, she will beat Venus. But any good match can turn bad. But if either one is playing at their best, Amelie is the on I like more on red clay.Ok, but Amelie got creamed by Davenport in AI. So she isn't exactly cruising either. Have you checked the H2H of Venus and Momo?? Have you seen any of their matches??

K-Dog
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:44 AM
I know you all are going to hate me, but the odds are 1 in 250000.

Ballbuster
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:46 AM
As good as Venus is playing recently on green clay, but she did not have an easy walk on everyone to the title. Amelie is 2x better version of Conchita, faster, stronger, more variety less counter punching. Sure Venus can serve all her want, but Amelie is not bad at receiving them either. I'm sure if Amelie is healthy, she will beat Venus. But any good match can turn bad. But if either one is playing at their best, Amelie is the on I like more on red clay.

You are not too bright.

*JR*
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:57 AM
I think both ladies have a good shot at the title, but the real question will be "who has more confidence?" Amelia, as amazing as she is, really lacks confidence in big situations. She was playing better tennis than Lindsay at AI, but nerves got the best of her and that seems to be a real issue. Venus, on the other hand, broke through at FCC with her first tournament win in 14 months on her worst surface and played well in Fed Cup. So I think whoever holds her nerves the best will win in the final.
I hope you realize ppl like you and I "without preconceptions" ruin these fights! ;)

Ballbuster
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:59 AM
I hope you realize ppl like you and I "without preconceptions" ruin these fights! ;)

Does it really matter, Amelie track record speaks for itself. She's often injured and may just catch another hang-nail.

LindsayRocks89
Apr 27th, 2004, 02:30 AM
i really hope both of them are in the final, they deserve it :bounce:

LiliaLee-Frazier
Apr 27th, 2004, 02:36 AM
I hope that Momo can defend her title...if she is HEALTHY she wil be BY FAR the odds on favorite at this Clay tourney .. :D

CanadianGuy
Apr 27th, 2004, 04:16 AM
Ok, but Amelie got creamed by Davenport in AI. So she isn't exactly cruising either. Have you checked the H2H of Venus and Momo?? Have you seen any of their matches??
lol...please, Amelie has always been one of my fav since she made final in AO:)
And Venus is on tv a lot more than Momo, tho less entertaining, game-wise;)
Neyways, Momo is not as effective on green than red, green clay is faster than red clay, and where do we find those kind of events?
But like I said, both have been inconsistent, and make no mistake, if Lindsay is to play Venus on clay, she wont exactly be trashed by Venus.
I do think Venus can win as well, she has big clay titles too, but I like Amelie's game on clay more, no offense to Venus, but Amelie has better clay game.

Knizzle
Apr 27th, 2004, 04:29 AM
lol...please, Amelie has always been one of my fav since she made final in AO:)
And Venus is on tv a lot more than Momo, tho less entertaining, game-wise;)
Neyways, Momo is not as effective on green than red, green clay is faster than red clay, and where do we find those kind of events?
But like I said, both have been inconsistent, and make no mistake, if Lindsay is to play Venus on clay, she wont exactly be trashed by Venus.
I do think Venus can win as well, she has big clay titles too, but I like Amelie's game on clay more, no offense to Venus, but Amelie has better clay game.
She has a better "clay game", but that alone is not going to beat Venus Williams. Venus is flat out a better player. If they play the match will be won or lost on Venus' racket.

CanadianGuy
Apr 27th, 2004, 05:12 AM
She has a better "clay game", but that alone is not going to beat Venus Williams. Venus is flat out a better player. If they play the match will be won or lost on Venus' racket.
I never say she will beat Venus, I only said the odds favor Amelie. It's just personal perference I guess:) If Lisa can beat Venus on hardcourt, why not Amelie beat Venus on red clay. It's all about odds, nothing is for certain:)

Knizzle
Apr 27th, 2004, 05:22 AM
I never say she will beat Venus, I only said the odds favor Amelie. It's just personal perference I guess:) If Lisa can beat Venus on hardcourt, why not Amelie beat Venus on red clay. It's all about odds, nothing is for certain:)
I'm just trying to figure out how you determine the odds are in Amelie's favor. Nothing has happened to evidence this?? :shrug:

Chunchun
Apr 27th, 2004, 05:54 AM
I want Sveta/Venus final!

charmedRic
Apr 27th, 2004, 01:00 PM
hmmm chances are good. I'd rather both players stayed uninjured for RG tho.

Best Of Luck To V! :)

7~LV3
Apr 27th, 2004, 04:05 PM
If they both play to their potential, which I guess they would, then I dont think that anyone out there in the draw would be able to stop them...Im guessing that Amelie is one of those players who dont really succumb to players lower ranking than her...outside of top ten I mean...

DUNEMAN
Apr 27th, 2004, 07:09 PM
If they both play to their potential, which I guess they would, then I dont think that anyone out there in the draw would be able to stop them...Im guessing that Amelie is one of those players who dont really succumb to players lower ranking than her...outside of top ten I mean...

I am so glad we are back to real tennis, lol, cant wait for this Vee Vs Amelie showdown :bounce:

DA FOREHAND
Apr 27th, 2004, 07:22 PM
"Amelie is 2x better version of Conchita, faster, stronger, more variety"


:lol::lol: Whatever!

cometz9
Apr 27th, 2004, 07:23 PM
I want a Venus/Sveta final more than a Venus/Amelie final. All three are my favs but i want to see Venus get revenge on her loss to Sveta. Go Venus!!!! :armed: