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pigam
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:31 AM
Her official site announces Justine will not play a single match before RG.
This implies she takes 6 weeks of total rest.

If she feels ok, she'll try to defend her RGtitle.

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:33 AM
So, we're seriously looking more at WIMBLEDON? right?

cyberix
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:34 AM
Merde :(

SJW
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:35 AM
i didn't think she would.

i now wonder what the possibility is of her actually competing in RG

pigam
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:37 AM
So, we're seriously looking more at WIMBLEDON? right?
I don't know :shrug:
I do know you do not want to be in the shoes of 'someone from Justine's entourage' right now.
I mean, they went on a 10day holiday and she already became restless and eager to get on the court.
Now, she is looking forward to playing on her favourite surface, 'close' to home, and she has to saty sidelined for 6 weeks ...

pfff :sad:
courage, Justine!!!!!

turt
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:38 AM
:sad:
Hopefully she will resume training before Roland Garros! It's still far away from now, she may be fully fit by then...
If she competes, she'll definitely be the one to watch, even without match practice!

SelesFan70
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:39 AM
Merde :(

:lol: Mon Dieu! Such language!

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:42 AM
I don't know :shrug:
I do know you do not want to be in the shoes of 'someone from Justine's entourage' right now.
I mean, they went on a 10day holiday and she already became restless and eager to get on the court.
Now, she is looking forward to playing on her favourite surface, 'close' to home, and she has to saty sidelined for 6 weeks ...

pfff :sad:
courage, Justine!!!!!


Your right Pigam, she'll go stir crazy not playing tennis. I guess
they might just do alot of training on clay instead of making
a public appearance at a pre-RG event under the media scrutiny.

Oh...well. All I want is to see her feeling fantastic, raring to go-and
playing like the Evil tennis genius we know and love. If she's not
really mentally at an event (like DOHA) then it doesn't matter if
she's playing because she'll not be focused anyway. We'll just
have to let Justine and Company make the decisions they feel
comfortable with. Gut instincts as we Americans like to say.
It's worked pretty well so far...

:)

Dolpho
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:44 AM
I hope she does feel ok when RG arrives! cuz if she duzn't I am afraid she mite lose her no 1 ranking(as she has already skipped German Open), Can anyone please tell me what exactly would be the points table like, if she duzn't play RG?

fifiricci
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:46 AM
I hope she does feel ok when RG arrives! cuz if she duzn't I am afraid she mite lose her no 1 ranking(as she has already skipped German Open), Can anyone please tell me what exactly would be the points table like, if she duzn't play RG?
I dont have the exact figures, but Justine has MASSES of points to defend on clay, so not playing is going to bring the others much closer to her if they play, even if they dont knock her off No 1 yet ..............

pigam
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:49 AM
I dont have the exact figures, but Justine has MASSES of points to defend on clay, so not playing is going to bring the others much closer to her if they play, even if they dont knock her off No 1 yet ..............
:drool:ing, are we? ;)

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:52 AM
I hope she does feel ok when RG arrives! cuz if she duzn't I am afraid she mite lose her no 1 ranking(as she has already skipped German Open), Can anyone please tell me what exactly would be the points table like, if she duzn't play RG?

Knizzle did the math already. Something around 1596 points loss;but
she's got like 7,200 now and the only person that can become number
1 is if KIM wins RG and Justine doesn't play or loses very early.
Amelie is number 3 and she's only got like ranking points in about 3500 right now.

SJW
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:54 AM
I hope she does feel ok when RG arrives! cuz if she duzn't I am afraid she mite lose her no 1 ranking(as she has already skipped German Open), Can anyone please tell me what exactly would be the points table like, if she duzn't play RG?these are the points on the red stuff:

Henin: 1596 - Berlin, RG
Clijsters: 1343 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Mauresmo: 1120 - Warsaw, Berlin, Rome, RG
Davenport: 174 - RG
Myskina: 137 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Petrova: 614 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Serena: 676 - Rome, RG
Capriati: 370 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Dementieva: 0 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Sugiyama: 338 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Zvonareva: 768 - Bol, Berlin, Rome, Strasbourg, RG, Vienna
Rubin: 383 - Berlin, Rome, Madrid, RG
Venus: 319 Warsaw, RG
Kuznetsova: 116 - Berlin, Rome, RG
Suarez: 285 - Berlin, Rome, Madrid, RG, Vienna

so she better hope that Kim doesnt have a good clay season

charmedRic
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:54 AM
Let's see when I had Mono I was in bed for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of TONS of NAPS and low impact physical training. It wasn't until the third week AFTER my White Blood Cell Count fell that I was finally back into Tennis Shape.

BEST OF LUCK TO JHH IN HER RECOVERY!

fifiricci
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:55 AM
:drool:ing, are we? ;)
No, but if those are the words you want to put in my mouth, who am I to stop you ..... :rolleyes: :kiss:

pigam
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:56 AM
Knizzle did the math already. Something around 1596 points loss;but
she's got like 7,200 now and the only person that can become number
1 is if KIM wins RG and Justine doesn't play or loses very early.
Amelie is number 3 and she's only got like ranking points in about 3500 right now.
In fact Kim has to defend
final Berlin
won Rome
final RG


to be really honest, I don't care for the nr1 rank too much. I just hope she'll be fit again.
I think you're right Groenuit (=flemish for greenout ;) ). She'll prefer training in peace and quiet when she's ready instead of entering a tournament when she's not feeling fully fit.

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:00 PM
What looks to happen is that the Race to the YEC rankings will change,
since that rewards players who do well, rather than minus points.

Dolpho
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:01 PM
thanx fifricci nad greenout

The Crow
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:12 PM
In normal circumstances I would have hated when she'd lose her number 1 ranking. Now it's just a detail. I want her to get fit too compete. Once she's there, we can worry about her (number 1) ranking.

surfinggirl
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:16 PM
I hope she does feel ok when RG arrives! cuz if she duzn't I am afraid she mite lose her no 1 ranking(as she has already skipped German Open), Can anyone please tell me what exactly would be the points table like, if she duzn't play RG?
Remeber that Kim also has lots of points to defend at berlin (finalist), Rome (winner) and RG (finalist). So she normally shouldn't be afraid of her. And I don't think Serena can gain a lot of points and get over Justine as Serena played SF last year.
Mauresmo is ranked 3rd and reached the quarterfinals last year, but Justine is 3896 points ahead of her
Next is Davenport (and sorry for Davenport fans, but I don't think she'll do very weel, certainly not winning it) and she's 4357 points behind Justine.

So here are more details: Justine loses 440 points from winning Berlin last year => so 7353 - 440 = 6913 (Kim has now 6280 points, Berlin included)
At RG Justine won 1156 points => so 6913 - 1156 = 5757.

Ok 10mins gone by and I counted out how much Kim earned in points in Berlin, Rome and Roland Garros (don't shoot me if the points aren't correctly, cause I did it fast, but I think it's just something to go with)
Berlin (finalist): 210 + QP (102) = 312
Rome (winner): 300 + QP (127) = 427
Roland Garros (finalist): 456 + QP (190) = 646
Total of = 1385
Count that she does as good as last year (of better win all those 3 tournaments than she'll be number 1) but as good as last year is 6280 - 102 (QP Berlin) - 127 (QP Rome) - 190 (QP RG) (cause you can't know how much QP she'll have) = 5861. So then + QP she'll be number 1 also.

So that is only if Justine doens't play Roland Garros and Kim is totally fit with her wrist!

But I think at least Justine will play, because this is her tournament, unless she's less than 70% she can survive the first rounds, so that she doesn't lose that much points (but that's not the most important thinkg)
I hope she'll be fine till RG and just watch her play.

tenn_ace
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:28 PM
In normal circumstances I would have hated when she'd lose her number 1 ranking. Now it's just a detail. I want her to get fit too compete. Once she's there, we can worry about her (number 1) ranking.
:worship:

veera
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:34 PM
Juju :sad:
I want to see RG with all the top players, and I want to see more of those The-fighter-Justine matches in Grand Slams. This sucks for sure.

Volcana
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:39 PM
1) Please be okay

2) I hope Strasbourg has already told her they're holding a wildcard for her.

3) If she's not planning to play at all before RG, I have to question if her team expects her to be 100% by then. Of course, they may figure that Rome's too soon, and three straight weeks of tennis (Strasbourg + RG) is too much. But to make that decision now implies they already KNOW that now. Bad mojo ....

pigam
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:41 PM
1) Please be okay

2) I hope Strasbourg has already told her they're holding a wildcard for her.

3) If she's not planning to play at all before RG, I have to question if her team expects her to be 100% by then. Of course, they may figure that Rome's too soon, and three straight weeks of tennis (Strasbourg + RG) is too much. But to make that decision now implies they already KNOW that now. Bad mojo ....
they probably prefer to prepare themselves (herself ;) )
in peace and quite. I don't know? :shrug:

DelMonte
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:42 PM
this must suck big time for justine. her favourite surface and she is sidelined. i hope she will be healthy enough to complete at the FO but what can we expect of her even if she does manage to show up? it's always a shame when the defending champ does not compete in a slam.

i am now beginning to realise how good we had it last year until Wimby. all of the elite players (apart from monica) were competing in the slams. these days, there's always someone out of action. it's so frustrating!

anyway, GUTE BESSERUNG, justine!

DelMonte

lauryn
Apr 23rd, 2004, 01:11 PM
gosh, I was so looking forward to the claycourt season and then this... :sad: Poor Justine :hug: I hope she will be ready for Roland Garos, don't know how she would do though, with such little preparation.

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 23rd, 2004, 01:35 PM
The number one ranking is a joke anyway. Once you get it who cares how long you have it or if you get it back. Its a numbers game it doesn't say who is best just who has the most points.

I hope she gets well its not worth it to ruin your health just so you can play a tennis match. That makes no sense. She has her whole career ahead of her. Missing clay season will not destroy her as some drama queens seems to indicate.

The Crow
Apr 23rd, 2004, 01:50 PM
Cybelle, I agree that winning tournaments is more important than the number 1 ranking. However, I love it when my fav player has the number 1 ranking and I want her to have it as long as possible. Those lists of how long players have been at number 1 pop up occasionally and the higher my fav is the more I love it ;)

Nikola
Apr 23rd, 2004, 02:00 PM
:confused:

Spunky83
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:25 PM
anyway, GUTE BESSERUNG, justine!


Lol...I second this (you english/american guys really like to use german phrases, donīt you?).

We all know how much Justine loves to play on clay, but she does well on other surfaces too (letīs not forget that she won four of five hardcourt tourneys this year). If she really sucks in France (she wonīt), she will have a lot of other opportunities to defend her points, for sure :lick:

DelMonte
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:34 PM
Lol...I second this (you english/american guys really like to use german phrases, donīt you?).

We all know how much Justine loves to play on clay, but she does well on other surfaces too (letīs not forget that she won four of five hardcourt tourneys this year). If she really sucks in France (she wonīt), she will have a lot of other opportunities to defend her points, for sure :lick:

he he. i am neither english nor american. i lived in germany for many years and will probably do so again in the future.

alfonsojose
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:42 PM
smart move. RG defending champions are making good decisions. Ferero will rest too.

harloo
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:53 PM
I actually think H-H is planning a suprise attack at RG. I really don't think she will be out of form, she will be training with extra weights. Watch!

Serena will want to avenge her loss, so H-H needs to be there.:D

Spunky83
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:58 PM
he he. i am neither english nor american. i lived in germany for many years and will probably do so again in the future.

Ich verstehe, dann mal noch nen schoenen Tag :cool:

Justine will make the super comeback, all she has to do is to be focused on her game, she doesnīt even need to be in perfect body shape. So I think itīs a question of mentality.

Allez-H
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:26 PM
I don't know,I still got the feeling that Justine will actually perform good at the french :confused:
Rome is far too early and Strasbourg isn't ideal since she needs to save up all her energy for the French,so I think it's totally normal.But I'm quite :sad: though...Just hope she'll feel much better very soon :)
Get better my girl :hug:

SJW
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:31 PM
regardless of what anyone says, going into a slam unprepared isn't a good idea, even if it IS your best surface :)

more accomplished players have done so and failed...i'm not even sure she'll play RG. she has 4 weeks...will she be ready?

Mrs. Peel
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:37 PM
I thought she only needed 2 weeks rest? Now she needs 6? Are things worse than thought? Do we have the truth of her condition?

INQUIRING MINDS WHAT TO KNOW :scared:

~|Naomi|~
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:40 PM
JHH is so good on clay even if she doesn't play a match, if she is fit and well and practiced hard she can be there and play well and contend. If she gets a good draw she can use the first week to warm up for the later matches.

Is there any information about when she is expected to begin training again?

Allez-H
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:40 PM
regardless of what anyone says, going into a slam unprepared isn't a good idea, even if it IS your best surface :)

more accomplished players have done so and failed...i'm not even sure she'll play RG. she has 4 weeks...will she be ready?
Well,it's not like she has a choice...If she feels she'll need those weeks and if she feels that this is the best in these conditions to go to RG,than so be it.
I don't what it's gonna give but I guess will just have to wait and see.I'm a fan and I'm accepting it,same thing goes if she decides not to play the French.

The Crow
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:42 PM
Mrs. Peel, they are going to diagnose again after 2 weeks. I'm guessing they are pretty sure she can't be ready for Berlin and Rome (not enough practice), but she can make it to RG. Strasbourg wouldn't be ideal either cause that means 3 consecutive weeks of tennis (which can't be good if you just return from illness), so the 'best' strategy is skipping all preparation tourneys and just trying to get ready for RG by practising.

It's far from ideal of course, I was hoping she could get ready by Rome :(

Allez-H
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:43 PM
JHH is so good on clay even if she doesn't play a match, if she is fit and well and practiced hard she can be there and play well and contend. If she gets a good draw she can use the first week to warm up for the later matches.

Is there any information about when she is expected to begin training again?
No not really,she supposed to take some tests again at the end of next week and I guess that they will base themselves on those tests whether it's healthy to start training again or not.
I'm think that (if she's feeling better) she'll start training again in to weeks,which gives her two weeks of preparation for the French.

Mrs. Peel
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:44 PM
Mrs. Peel, they are going to diagnose again after 2 weeks. I'm guessing they are pretty sure she can't be ready for Berlin and Rome (not enough practice), but she can make it to RG. Strasbourg wouldn't be ideal either cause that means 3 consecutive weeks of tennis (which can't be good if you just return from illness), so the 'best' strategy is skipping all preparation tourneys and just trying to get ready for RG by practising.

It's far from ideal of course, I was hoping she could get ready by Rome :(
Thank you :kiss:

I hope she does not have pain with this illness and that the diagnosis is better than expected in two weeks time!

Spunky83
Apr 23rd, 2004, 05:27 PM
Strasbourge is a Tier III Tourney...that wouldnīt be effective enough, though itīs good competetive training