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SelesFan70
Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:41 PM
Here's my short list...

1. Richard Williams, Oracene Price (Venus, Serena Williams)
2. Heinz Gunthardt (Steffi Graf)
3. Mike Estep (Martina Navratilova in the 1980's)
4. Melanie Molitor (Martina Hingis)
5. Dennis Ralston (Chris Evert for umpteen years)

Honorable mentions:
Karojl Seles (Monica Seles)
Carlos Rodriguez (Justin Henin-Hardenne)


:o Forgive my misspellings...assuming there are any! :angel:

bracey
Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:47 PM
Do the best coaches necessarily coach the best players? I think I could have coached Graf and she'd have been a top player still.

venusfan
Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:50 PM
Top 5 BEST tennis coach:

1: Samantha Stevenson
2: Alla Kournikova
3: Damir Dokic
4: Stefano Capriati
5: Jim Pierce

SelesFan70
Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:53 PM
Do the best coaches necessarily coach the best players? I think I could have coached Graf and she'd have been a top player still.

I thought about this when I first posted my list. I think a good coach can bring out the best in a good player. Graf was a good player, but Heinz, I think, was that foundation she needed to get her to greatness.

ßcoene
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:00 PM
Top 5 BEST tennis coach:

1: Samantha Stevenson
2: Alla Kournikova
3: Damir Dokic
4: Stefano Capriati
5: Jim Pierce
First I thought 'Alla Kournikova' second :confused:

But then I saw the others in your top-5 :lol:

Smackie
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:03 PM
I would say Richard and Oracene because not only they have produced two top players but also, more importantly, the daughters are happy and cheerful and have freedom of doing whatever they want.

Rodriguez is worth mentioning too as he has made Justine a tough player as she is (no herpes jokes here now) ;) of course her hubby contributes his share too...may be....supposedly....allegedly....

I think Loic Courteau is doing a good job too.

Graf and Monica didn't really need any coaching in fact, didn't Monica have no coach for a long while and still got the the top or something? (sorry, don't follow her that much)

Volcana
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:12 PM
I think you maybe have to split apart the parent/coaches and the non-parent coaches.

Melanie Molitor and Richard Williams/Orecene Pryce have certain inherent advantage in getting their players to do things. Like being able to ground them. Harold Soloman can't pull his players off the tour against their will. Orecene did that to Serena.

SelesFan70
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:13 PM
I think you maybe have to split apart the parent/coaches and the non-parent coaches.

Melanie Molitor and Richard Williams/Orecene Pryce have certain inherent advantage in getting their players to do things. Like being able to ground them. Harold Soloman can't pull his players off the tour against their will. Orecene did that to Serena.

See, this is why I love this board. :worship: Always an angle I never think of!

*JR*
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:23 PM
No particular order, but add:

Hubert Choudury (Peppermint Puzzle's '02 FCC run & Zurich title).
Glen Schaap (Nadya, esp. working around injuries).
ASV's brother Emilio (her Sometimes, Sveta Since).
Robert Lansdorp (non-touring "Mr. Fix-It" of Myskina and Sharky).
Carlos Rodriguez (big mouth, but gets the most Out Of JHH).

darrinbaker00
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:29 PM
BEST PARENT COACHES
1. Richard Williams/Oracene Price
2. Jimmy Evert
3. Melanie Molitor (despite the fact that Martina fired her once)
4. Stefano Capriati (despite Jennifer's infamous teenage rebellion)
5. Karolj Seles

WORST PARENT COACHES
1. Jim Pierce
2. Samantha Stevenson
3. Alla Kournikova
4. Damir Dokic
5. Jim Pierce (for what he did to Mary, he deserves to be on this list twice)

BEST NON-PARENT COACHES
1. Heinz Guenthardt (Steffi Graf)
2. Mike Estep (Martina Navratilova)
3. Robert Lansdorp (Tracy Austin)
4. Robert Van't Hof (Lindsay Davenport)
5. Carlos Rodriguez (Justine Henin-Hardenne)

#1 Lindsay
Apr 23rd, 2004, 02:38 AM
robert van't hof is the reason lindsay won 3 grandslams

Allez-H
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:10 AM
Eventhough allot ofpeople on this board don't like him,Carlos made what Justine is today.If it wasn't for Carlos (and P-Y too offcourse) Justine probably still wondering around the 5th place.Who knows maybe she wouldn't have even made it to the top-5 :shrug:

azza
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:16 AM
Manuel Da Silva
Vic Reynolds

azza
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:18 AM
WORST PARENT COACHES
1. Jim Pierce

5. Jim Pierce (for what he did to Mary, he deserves to be on this list twice)

What did Jim Pierce do to Mary? :confused:

irma
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:40 AM
I thought about this when I first posted my list. I think a good coach can bring out the best in a good player. Graf was a good player, but Heinz, I think, was that foundation she needed to get her to greatness.
Yeah Steffi was a just good player when Heinz Gunthardt met her. She only had 10 slams and 61 titles. That's nice but definitely average :lol: (j/k)

the only persons who brought steffi to greatness were daddy and steffi herself
I want to give ballboy Pavel some credit too :lol:

With good and experienced coaches she would have been even better though. I am convinced about that but she did pretty good anyway :angel:

cooolconchita
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:12 AM
Eric Van Harpen - coached Conchi, Patty and Anna K all when they were playing their very best tennis. :)

Rothes
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:18 AM
Defintly Eric Van Harpen who now coaches Gagliardi

Also Dimentieva, Mikaelian and Vakulenko's coach, who I forget his name.

Rothes
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:19 AM
Eric Van Harpen - coached Conchi, Patty and Anna K all when they were playing their very best tennis. :)
And dont you realise that Patty has a tiff with both Anna and Conchita ;)

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:21 AM
Hopper has to be the best fitness coach

cooolconchita
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:41 AM
And dont you realise that Patty has a tiff with both Anna and Conchita ;)
Sherlock Holmes is nothing compared to you! ;)

Cro-boy
Apr 23rd, 2004, 08:59 AM
Carlos Rodriguez

Rothes
Apr 24th, 2004, 03:47 AM
And dont you realise that Patty has a tiff with both Anna and Conchita ;)
Not even in my league