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New
Apr 22nd, 2004, 04:29 PM
Before anyone start to bash what is Singapore, let me explain why this is amazing.

Singapore has a small population of 4 million and it's a very small country (size of one city!) in size. The country is very money orientated and many kids right from young learns that the only way to survive is to get a good degree and a normal job instead of pursuing their dreams. Therefore, there's not much professional sportsmen or sportwomen around.

In sports, our greatest successes comes in swimming. We won the regional most of the times for a lot of events and our best swimmer qualified for the finals in olympics even though she did not get a medal in the end. We also almost got a bronze for table tennis in olympics, but that's about it. We have professional bowlers and badminton players whose performances are erractic. The government pour in lots of money into soccer and the worse part is we hardly win.

Therefore with all the odds, it is highly unlikely that Singapore does well in tennis. Yet we have only one young junior player (how pathetic...only one player! and she's ranked only 500++ in the juniors even.) That is why every victory should be celebrated.

20 April
Singapore defeated Turkmenistan 3-0
Wei-Ping Lee (SIN) d. Ummarahmat Alisultanova (TKM) 61 62
Rui-Jing Wong (SIN) d. Jenneta Hallyewa (TKM) 60 63
Wei-Ping Lee/Rui-Jing Wong (SIN) d. Ummarahmat Alisultanova/Jenneta Hallyewa (TKM) 60 60

21 April
Singapore defeated Syria 2-1
Wei-Ping Lee (SIN) d. Hazar Sudki (SYR) 62 60
Rui-Jing Wong (SIN) d. Lara Al Samman (SYR) 60 61
Nivin Al Kozbari /Hazar Sudki (SYR) d. Yun-Ling Ng /Pei-Ling Tong (SIN) 76(5) 64

23 April
Singapore defeated Pacific Oceania 2-1
Wei-Ping Lee (SIN) d. Irene George (POC) 62 63
Rui-Jing Wong (SIN) d. Gurianna Korinihona (POC) 62 60
Irene George/Gurianna Korinihona (POC) d. Yun-Ling NG/Pei-Ling Tong (SIN) 63 60

24 April
Kazakhstan defeated Singapore 3-0
Yekaterina Morozova (KAZ) d. Pei-Ling Tong (SIN) 60 63
Amina Rakhim (KAZ) d. Yun-Ling Ng (SIN) 61 60
Amina Rakhim/Madina Rakhim (KAZ) d. Wei-Ping Lee/Rui-Jing Wong (SIN) 57 61 61

I'm curious why they dun let our best two players play in the singles on the last day.... now we'll never know if our best can match up to theirs...

Andrew.
Apr 22nd, 2004, 04:59 PM
Congrats. :)

firefly_ac
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:07 PM
Thanks Karsien for ur information...I'm happy for the girls..Hopefully the same can be for the guys.. And may tennis gain more popularity in Singapore.I really hated the Soccer Frenzy in S'pore..it has somewhat been an Asian Craze...esp. in South EAst Asia...Soccer is BIG..Some of My friends even thought that tennis is for old folks... There's not even a tennis court in the newly established Singapore Sports School...Somehow... the government might thought Asian players would not be that successful in the tennis career... Which might be somewhat true but mostly i think is the lack of interest in the sports..Hopefully we can see more Asians in the top 100s..That will surely invoke interest in the general Asain populace....

CanadianGuy
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:20 PM
For one it is too expensive to develop even just one player. In Asia where the athletes are "mass-produced", it is not really that cost-effective to focus on tennis. But China seems to be able to get that done. Singapore did a good job. If they do qualify, then they have to stay there which is about 10 times as hard. So good luck:)

esquímaux
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:29 PM
lol@ mass-produced :lol:

St.Sebastian
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:39 PM
Good for them :yeah:

But don't say the reason of where Singapore's tennis is, is his population of 4 million. Slovakia has 5 million inhabitants and they already had top-5 player two years ago... So you see that 'small' also can :)

firefly_ac
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:44 PM
don think S'pore got 4 million..And please...compare the size of Singapore and Slovakia..Singapore is just a dot on the map... With few natural resouces..Which is why manpower has to be directed to human resouce which is used to ensure economic survival of the nation.... No offence meant..i know which top 5 player you'r referrin to..That my fave player....hee...

New
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:51 PM
don think S'pore got 4 million..And please...compare the size of Singapore and Slovakia..Singapore is just a dot on the map... With few natural resouces..Which is why manpower has to be directed to human resouce which is used to ensure economic survival of the nation.... No offence meant..i know which top 5 player you'r referrin to..That my fave player....hee...

when i was studying in 1995 itwas 3.7million i'm sure it has reached 4 million now...

New_balls_please
Apr 22nd, 2004, 07:50 PM
Congrats Wei Ping & Rui Jing

Greenout
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:44 PM
I'm speechless. The Davis Cup team lost last year to the Philipines! :lol:

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:46 PM
Viva Singapore. :)

Though I can't help but notice that the countries they defeated weren't really known either. :scared:

*JR*
Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:49 PM
Any Team That beats them (in Singapore) will be caned like that kid who spraypainted some cars in the 90's! :eek:
:devil:

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:04 AM
Viva Singapore. :)

Though I can't help but notice that the countries they defeated weren't really known either. :scared:

You're probably right...but when an unknown country beats another unknown country in such scores...I'm really amazed...

i like tennis a lot and i'm not very happy at the way this game is being promoted here(if there's any promotion at all) and i keep hearing my coach say that not many people would give up their studies just to lose on the circuit and now singapore wins.... and the player who's in the junior circuit is responsible for one of the single's win!

I'm just very proud that it shows that if anyone wants to make it they could...not every one has to follow the rat race here and study till they are 24 and get a normal job or are deemed as failure...

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:07 AM
Well..I'm proud of the local girls. Good for them. I hope they get
some local news coverage.

arcus
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:14 AM
Nice thread

VIVA! the little guy/gal!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really love to hear about the struggles of the non-major nations and players. Everyone must get tired about hearing about the same 3-4 nations and 3-4 players.

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:28 AM
Well..I'm proud of the local girls. Good for them. I hope they get
some local news coverage.

I doubt it...the media and government only care about soccer, soccer, and SOCCER..... THE DISTURBING THING ABOUT THAT?

WELL, they have not performed well at all for a series of years..... in fact recently, at the South East Asia games, Singapore won a shock silver for gymastics (trust me, that's even more unlikely than tennis) and what did the government do to reward the girl? nothing. Why? Because Gymastics is not in the A list of Sports that they fund.... Only soccer... and they promised the soccer team huge perks if they win...(guess who crashed out of the round robin?) :rolleyes:

I feel bad for the girl as we all know gymastic is a sport which require lots of time to train...i only can imagine her training while studying at the same time and now not even rewarded for her efforts....

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:32 AM
when i was studying in 1995 itwas 3.7million i'm sure it has reached 4 million now...

You can't really use the population numbers as an excuse. Look at
Belgium ...10 Million people- 2 tennis greats.

There's 4 millions citizens, and about 900,000 expats like me here.
The problem is that the government do not allow kids to follow
their dream careers. I was shocked to know that Literature is
considered a "side" course in school. The education system is
geared to professional careers. Sports seems to be looked down
upon here as if it's to be pursued only because failure at school
grades.

Good on you girls!

#1 Lindsay
Apr 23rd, 2004, 02:45 AM
NeW Zealand has also won twice against China and Indeonesia.
New Zealand has a population of 4 million as well

Steveg
Apr 23rd, 2004, 04:58 AM
In sports, our greatest successes comes in swimming. We won the regional most of the times for a lot of events and our best swimmer qualified for the finals in olympics even though she did not get a medal in the end. We also almost got a bronze for table tennis in olympics, but that's about it. We have professional bowlers and badminton players whose performances are erractic. The government pour in lots of money into soccer and the worse part is we hardly win. Are all these talents born in Singapore or are some of them coming from mainland China and Taiwan :confused: . I heard that Singapore has a policy to attract 'foreign' athletes.

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:53 AM
Are all these talents born in Singapore or are some of them coming from mainland China and Taiwan :confused: . I heard that Singapore has a policy to attract 'foreign' athletes.

the swimmers are our own.... and I'm proud to say the tennis players in the fed cup are our own!!!! :)

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:00 AM
yep, singapore has got a policy of importing foreign talent, but that happens in table tennis, badminton, athletics, hockey...

i'm very proud to say that singapore's swimmers and tennis players are all local born:worship: :bounce: (happens to be my fav sports!)

i knew abt us winning the 1st tie, but not the one abt syria...
want coverage from the media? forget it. the english papers are obsessed with soccer, and the chinese ones are obsessed with table tennis and badminton.:fiery:

singapore's sports associations are divided into 3 grps: core, merit and others. tennis obviously belongs to "others", getting only about US$300,000 a year. that is why our fed cup player wei ping had to get sponsors to sponsor her training.....tennis in singapore is non-existant

Aerien
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:04 AM
I'm speechless. The Davis Cup team lost last year to the Philipines! :lol:
Why, is it a shame to lose to ours? :confused:

Congrats Singapore on the wins. :)

Over here, the focus is on basketball. :fiery:
Just sad.

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:05 AM
basketball, philippines...there's a connection. u guys have been winning the SEA Games everytime right?

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:07 AM
We should contact MediaWorks/the Straits Times TV news and
inform them of the great Fed Cup wins by the girls.

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:11 AM
I bought the straits time today and there was no news about the fed cup wins.... they were more concerned about the young lions in the Singapore league (soccer ) and badminton (where both players are not our home born players) where some players reached the quarterfinals...

even under tennis results they din even post the fed cup results...they just posted the monte carlo results...are they even aware a group of girls from singapore is fighting hard in india to bring glory for the country now????????

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:15 AM
I bought the straits time today and there was no news about the fed cup wins.... they were more concerned about the young lions in the Singapore league (soccer ) and badminton (where both players are not our home born players) where some players reached the quarterfinals...

even under tennis results they din even post the fed cup results...they just posted the monte carlo results...are they even aware a group of girls from singapore is fighting hard in india to bring glory for the country now????????
simply put it, they don't. they'd rather put their attention on foreign born athlete because they are going to make it to the oympics. i really admire our swimmers who give up so much to train and study at the same time, but our dear media only cares about table tennis and foreign born players. it is very embarassing when these "local" athletes can't even sing our national anthem

that is why, kudos to weiping and jamie for studying and training at the same time, it is a huge effort:worship:

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:16 AM
I just called the newpaper and told them about their acheivements...hopefully they do a coverage on the girls effort...

I dun care that if or not they will lose the final three ties, but for their efforts i think they really deserve to have some recognition!!!

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:21 AM
Well..I'm going to send my e-mails and phone calls to Media Corp and
MediaWorks. Ok- they still have to play Pacific Oceania and Kazakhstan; but
they're doing really well. The first score in the dubs tie against Turkmenistan
(wherever that is.. :lol: ) was a DOUBLE BAGEL!!!!!!!! Two Bao's! :lol:
Two Vandai's!

I'm going to cheer them on.. :)

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:29 AM
Well..I'm going to send my e-mails and phone calls to Media Corp and
MediaWorks. Ok- they still have to play Pacific Oceania and Kazakhstan; but
they're doing really well. The first score in the dubs tie against Turkmenistan
(wherever that is.. :lol: ) was a DOUBLE BAGEL!!!!!!!! Two Bao's! :lol:
Two Vandai's!

I'm going to cheer them on.. :)

thanks...even though they might not reply to us or care about what we said but it's the least we could do to show support...

I'm afraid my english is not very good... if you could perhaps write a letter to the straits times forum discussing the issue of biasness and lack of recognition...i think many althetes are gone becos of lack of support..really sad....

Thanks!!! :bounce:

azza
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:36 AM
No offense but look who they where versing :lol:

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:37 AM
yep, bias and lack of recognition is really a huge problem with our sporting scene now. in 2002, around the time fo the commonwealth games, i wrote a huge letter to straits times blasting them about their blatant biasness to table tennis, and all i got was my letter published but nothing happened.


how do they expect results to come out from tennis if they give so little money?:mad:

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:42 AM
I just sent an E-mail to the Straits Times. I think it's quite fun and exciting
for the girls to be doing so well. The only tennis article they featured today
was "Anna getting sued by her parents" DUH!!

I also made sure to mention that MALAYSIA didn't even compete in Group 1-
just to get the news editors interested.

Ok-perhaps it's not against any great team; but a win is a win. And I think
it's kind of cool.

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:43 AM
No offense but look who they where versing :lol:
no offense taken, but when this is a country where they people dont give a damn about tennis, and where our only ranked player is a girl in the 500s in the junior rankings, this is an achievement

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:46 AM
no offense taken, but when this is a country where they people dont give a damn about tennis, and where our only ranked player is a girl in the 500s in the junior rankings, this is an achievement

I also love the fact that they're trying their damnest to win despite
no local news coverage or profiles. How old are these girls, anyway?
Are they members of the Singapore Lawn and Tennis Club?

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 07:54 AM
Hey! Look what I found. I guess our key player is Wei Ping. She's
even sponsored. :lol:

http://www.skymedia.com.sg/SkytutorURL/Newsflash-WeiPing.htm

Zhao
Apr 23rd, 2004, 09:15 AM
maybe we shd stop bashing these foreign talents too...
Li Jiawei n Susilo, though not born here, train locally so they r somehow also 'make in Singapore'... considering there's no world class sparring partners for them, they did Singapore proud....
tennis coverage in Singapore is atrocious...so i m not surprised tt they do not pay attention to our girls... no world class coach or sparring partners here makes promoting tennis an uphill task unless we have someone like Paradorn or Tammy... Isn't Germany facin the same problem??

New
Apr 23rd, 2004, 10:08 AM
maybe we shd stop bashing these foreign talents too...
Li Jiawei n Susilo, though not born here, train locally so they r somehow also 'make in Singapore'... considering there's no world class sparring partners for them, they did Singapore proud....
tennis coverage in Singapore is atrocious...so i m not surprised tt they do not pay attention to our girls... no world class coach or sparring partners here makes promoting tennis an uphill task unless we have someone like Paradorn or Tammy... Isn't Germany facin the same problem??

I dun think we're that angry at the foreign/local talent, whatever you call them as... but rather the support for our own... why is there articles on badminton featuring Susilo and Li Li when the fed cup girls also won but no coverage about them? Are they less inportant just because they are starting out? and struggling to make Singapore on the map with tennis?

We are talking about future pioneer here... No matter how badly Wei Ping plays , she will be at least someone in this country attempting to make her mark against the odds on the tennis world... if they could give soccer so many chances after they lost time and again, i dun see why they can't give tennis the equal chances too...

Do read my earlier posts and think about the hardworking althetes who received no recognitions... like the gymastic girl....

AUSBOY
Apr 23rd, 2004, 10:25 AM
Im sorry but you are getting excited about nothing. Singaporeans have been able to play tennis for years. Countries like Lebannon, Syria, Turkmenistan etc. its still not really acceptable for women to do any sport. So the victories are expected, they are playing against women who can barely maintain a rally.

To be ranked in the top 500 juniors is also easily achieved with a few wildcards and no success.

If you want to look at a small country doing well look no further than Luxembourg! 3 top 70 players in 10 years!

Even the island of Haiti has had more success than Singapore!

xin_hui
Apr 23rd, 2004, 10:36 AM
Im sorry but you are getting excited about nothing. Singaporeans have been able to play tennis for years. Countries like Lebannon, Syria, Turkmenistan etc. its still not really acceptable for women to do any sport. So the victories are expected, they are playing against women who can barely maintain a rally.

To be ranked in the top 500 juniors is also easily achieved with a few wildcards and no success.

If you want to look at a small country doing well look no further than Luxembourg! 3 top 70 players in 10 years!

Even the island of Haiti has had more success than Singapore!
considering the standard of tennis in singapore so far, this is an amazing achievement in our own right, and that is what we are excited about.

i think lee wei ping is pretty young, abt 14 or 15. she's in indonesia training, but her official school is methodist girls. dunno how old rui jing is, but when i first heard of her in 1999, she was in university, so she shoud be around 26, 27 now:confused:

i dont mind foreign talent if they are here to help lift the standard up, but when a team is 75%foreign born(like table tennis), there is a problem.

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:20 AM
Im sorry but you are getting excited about nothing. Singaporeans have been able to play tennis for years. Countries like Lebannon, Syria, Turkmenistan etc. its still not really acceptable for women to do any sport. So the victories are expected, they are playing against women who can barely maintain a rally.

To be ranked in the top 500 juniors is also easily achieved with a few wildcards and no success.

If you want to look at a small country doing well look no further than Luxembourg! 3 top 70 players in 10 years!

Even the island of Haiti has had more success than Singapore!


So, what?. Any sort of women's tennis is good news in Singapore.
There use to be an ATP event here; but people lost interest and
the sponsors moved to to China. Give it a break. Everyone knows
it's tough, nobody is looking for superstars. It's just a refreshing
thing to see. I'm not Singaporean by the way, I'm an American
citizen. I like it- it's tennis- so what's wrong about that?

You can't compare Luxembourg to Singapore because there a
different view toward local sports. Read the first post- there's no
outlet for sports as education or a career. There is no option here for school kids. It's progress, education, education, education.

Besides..girls aren't suppose to be doing sports seriously here.
Did you know women aren't even allowed in the Singapore military.
Young girls are suppose to go to school, get a nice degree, do
some great job, get married, and be happy. There's no equal wage
scale for men and women here. You'd be surprise.

I applaud young Wei Ping. I bet her neighbors hate her, and think
she's wasting her time and parent's money with some stupid dream
of being a professional tennis player.

Zhao
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:33 AM
I dun think we're that angry at the foreign/local talent, whatever you call them as... but rather the support for our own... why is there articles on badminton featuring Susilo and Li Li when the fed cup girls also won but no coverage about them? Are they less inportant just because they are starting out? and struggling to make Singapore on the map with tennis?

We are talking about future pioneer here... No matter how badly Wei Ping plays , she will be at least someone in this country attempting to make her mark against the odds on the tennis world... if they could give soccer so many chances after they lost time and again, i dun see why they can't give tennis the equal chances too...

Do read my earlier posts and think about the hardworking althetes who received no recognitions... like the gymastic girl....

Li Li = Commonwealth Games Champion
Susilo = Juz won a 5-star Grand Prix...currently world no8
Li Jiawei = Came close to upset world no1 then Wang Nan in 2000 olympics

Of coz i m not trying to write off the hard work of these players...Sport coverage in Singapore has always been atrocious...u n i know that... so when there's sports coverage, naturally they will want to cover sports that r more popular or ones tt we have world class players in... Also there r many many more athletics in SINGAPORE working as hard as these girls...
Tennis has never been tt popular... its really pathetic tt half of the courts in East coast r gone..revamped into other facility... what i m trying to say is unless we have world class players in these sports... coverage will always be so little... reality is always cruel my fren...

Greenout
Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:35 AM
Li Li = Commonwealth Games Champion
Susilo = Juz won a 5-star Grand Prix...currently world no8
Li Jiawei = Came close to upset world no1 then Wang Nan in 2000 olympics

Of coz i m not trying to write off the hard work of these players...Sport coverage in Singapore has always been atrocious...u n i know that... so when there's sports coverage, naturally they will want to cover sports that r more popular or ones tt we have world class players in... Also there r many many more athletics in SINGAPORE working as hard as these girls...
Tennis has never been tt popular... its really pathetic tt half of the courts in East coast r gone..revamped into other facility... what i m trying to say is unless we have world class players in these sports... coverage will always be so little... reality is always cruel my fren...

Do you live on the East Coast too? I do! Did you see what they
did to the tennis courts at East Coast Park? Half of it is now some
carnival/dinosaur amusement park!! :lol:

Zhao
Apr 23rd, 2004, 12:06 PM
Do you live on the East Coast too? I do! Did you see what they
did to the tennis courts at East Coast Park? Half of it is now some
carnival/dinosaur amusement park!! :lol:

Haha no but i was at East Coast with my frens for chalet
Anyway i think they muz have been suffering losses over the years
the courts were vacant most of the time
so i think they want to recoup their losses by having tt amusement park.. :lol: :lol: Now tell me is there any hope for Tennis in Singapore??

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Apr 23rd, 2004, 01:28 PM
I think that becoz they took Sonya Kumar outta the team LOL!

gorecki
Apr 23rd, 2004, 03:24 PM
thanks for the results!
if you hadn't posted this, i would have no idea they were even playing!!!

wateva
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:11 PM
wow! so many sporeans are standing up for their country! anybody game for a tennis session soon?

Steveg
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:19 PM
no offense taken, but when this is a country where they people dont give a damn about tennis, and where our only ranked player is a girl in the 500s in the junior rankings, this is an achievementToo bad tennis won't be in next S.E.A. Games :sad: . I am afraid it will be a reason for the Singapore Tennis Association to get even less funds :rolleyes: .

wateva
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:29 PM
what?!?! tennis is so overlooked in this region!!!

Harju.
Apr 23rd, 2004, 06:37 PM
:wavey: Even though I'm not Singaporean, but I've been staying here for like 4 years.

This is considered a pretty good results :worship:

It's true. Tennis is such a minor sport that hardly anyone play here. I'm from NYP, and the tennis club was I guess the LEAST popular of all. There were only like 5-6 players for their school team. It's pathetic.

Singapore is more to certificate/diploma/degree country. Kids are raised to be doctors, engineers, IT-ist. When it comes to sport, the only thing that is popular is soccer. We have coverage of soccer almost every day. The show the Champs league, EPL and all. But when it comes to tennis, it's completely NONE. The only tennis match I get to see for the whole year is merely French Open semifinal.final. And for that, I have to stay awake at 1 AM to watch.

xin_hui
Apr 24th, 2004, 02:14 AM
:bounce: :bounce: we won pacific oceania!!!!!

New
Apr 24th, 2004, 04:28 AM
updated!!! so that we dun need to create a new thread...

Greenout
Apr 24th, 2004, 04:28 AM
Hurrah! One more tie then we're promoted to Group 1 for 2005.
So, they lost dubs. Hmm. Wei Ping won her match, good girl!

:)

New
Apr 24th, 2004, 04:31 AM
Hurrah! One more tie then we're promoted to Group 1 for 2005.
So, they lost dubs. Hmm. Wei Ping won her match, good girl!

:)

it's funny cos since the first tie it's obviously if they kept the same pair used in the doubles, they most likely could have won... i think they were just giving the rest a chance to play since they won both singles matches already....

silverwhite
Apr 24th, 2004, 06:04 AM
I doubt it...the media and government only care about soccer, soccer, and SOCCER..... THE DISTURBING THING ABOUT THAT?

WELL, they have not performed well at all for a series of years..... in fact recently, at the South East Asia games, Singapore won a shock silver for gymastics (trust me, that's even more unlikely than tennis) and what did the government do to reward the girl? nothing. Why? Because Gymastics is not in the A list of Sports that they fund.... Only soccer... and they promised the soccer team huge perks if they win...(guess who crashed out of the round robin?) :rolleyes:

I feel bad for the girl as we all know gymastic is a sport which require lots of time to train...i only can imagine her training while studying at the same time and now not even rewarded for her efforts....

Tell me about it. :rolleyes: I have absolutely no idea why soccer is so popular here.

silverwhite
Apr 24th, 2004, 06:07 AM
By the way, are there any clay/grass/indoor courts in Singapore? So far, all I've seen is hardcourts.

xin_hui
Apr 24th, 2004, 07:23 AM
i know there's grasscourts at the padang there....issit called singapore recreation club:confused:

crouching
Apr 24th, 2004, 07:36 AM
As of this posting, the standings are:

Team - Ties Played - Ties Won - Ties Lost - Rubbers Won - Rubbers Lost
1. Kazakhstan 3 - 3 - 0 - 9 - 0
2. Singapore 3 - 3 - 0 - 7 - 2
3. Pacific Oceania 4 - 2 - 2 - 7 - 5
4. Syria 3 - 0 - 3 - 1 - 8
5. Turkmenistan 3 - 0 - 3 - 0 - 9

According to the Fed Cup site - "The teams that finish in 1st and 2nd position in the Round Robin pool will be promoted to Group I in 2005."

The final ties are KAZ v SIN and SYR vs TKM.

The KAZ v SIN tie will decide who tops the table and the SYR vs TKM tie to decide the bottom of the table.

From the looks of it, I believe Singapore has already qualified for Group I.

Pacific Oceania will not be able to overtake Singapore for 2nd place as they have already played all four ties and only won two.

Alan
Apr 24th, 2004, 08:06 AM
Thanks Karsien for ur information...I'm happy for the girls..Hopefully the same can be for the guys.. And may tennis gain more popularity in Singapore.I really hated the Soccer Frenzy in S'pore..it has somewhat been an Asian Craze...esp. in South EAst Asia...Soccer is BIG..Some of My friends even thought that tennis is for old folks... There's not even a tennis court in the newly established Singapore Sports School...Somehow... the government might thought Asian players would not be that successful in the tennis career... Which might be somewhat true but mostly i think is the lack of interest in the sports..Hopefully we can see more Asians in the top 100s..That will surely invoke interest in the general Asain populace....In the Philippines, soccer is hardly noticed, although we DO have teams, they also HARDLY win, this is ironically (compared to singapore) is due to lack of support and interest as well..

Filipinos seemed infatuated with basketball, a sport more advantageous for tall people (where we only have quite a few here in our country).. and we now get our butts kicked by the chinese and the Kazhaks (is that the correct spelling?) in regional finals...

Tennis here is also hardly noticed, local sports shows only showcase what kind of english-speaking ignoramuses these "sports show hosts" are... even the philippines' top tennis players seem to have a vague idea of what's happening to the ATP and WTA... it seems as though the only player they know are... Kournikova, the Williamses (probably less known than i think), Agassi, Sampras, Graf... and I'm not even sure if they recognize seles

what a pity indeed...

im not sure how our team is doing in the DC ties in our zone, but last i heard we won , but very rarely does that happen consecutively

Veritas
Apr 24th, 2004, 08:18 AM
Im sorry but you are getting excited about nothing. Singaporeans have been able to play tennis for years. Countries like Lebannon, Syria, Turkmenistan etc. its still not really acceptable for women to do any sport. So the victories are expected, they are playing against women who can barely maintain a rally.

To be ranked in the top 500 juniors is also easily achieved with a few wildcards and no success.

If you want to look at a small country doing well look no further than Luxembourg! 3 top 70 players in 10 years!

Even the island of Haiti has had more success than Singapore!

Look, with a population of 4 million and being a country-state with not such a crash-hot record in sporting achievements (esp. tennis), winning not one, but 3 separate ties is something that we can look upon and feel good about.

We don't have to be ecstatic, but sending messages of congratulations is not over the top, now is it? You see plenty of threads that congratulate top players for beating lower ranked opponents (which they're expected to anyway), so why can't we do the same for the Singapore Fed-Cup team?

xin_hui
Apr 24th, 2004, 11:14 AM
Look, with a population of 4 million and being a country-state with not such a crash-hot record in sporting achievements (esp. tennis), winning not one, but 3 separate ties is something that we can look upon and feel good about.

We don't have to be ecstatic, but sending messages of congratulations is not over the top, now is it? You see plenty of threads that congratulate top players for beating lower ranked opponents (which they're expected to anyway), so why can't we do the same for the Singapore Fed-Cup team?
:worship: :worship: thank u!:worship: :worship:

Zhao
Apr 24th, 2004, 12:34 PM
i know there's grasscourts at the padang there....issit called singapore recreation club:confused:

Dun have liao gurl_tennis.... already demolished :sad: :sad:
Congrats...Its definitely a great start for Singapore Fed Team

New
Apr 25th, 2004, 10:21 AM
I'm curious why they dun let our best two players play in the singles on the last day.... now we'll never know if our best can match up to theirs...

xin_hui
Apr 25th, 2004, 10:30 AM
i checked our previous fed cup ties, we won kahzakstan in 1999, so maybe we didnt want to strain wei ping and jamie.


anyway, :bounce: :bounce::bounce:


Asia/Oceania Zone Group II ResultsKazakhstan and Singapore have qualified for promotion to Asia/Oceania Zone Group I in 2005. Final positions: 1. Kazakhstan, 2. Singapore, 3. Pacific Oceania, 4. Syria, 5. Turkmenistan.

wateva
Apr 25th, 2004, 12:59 PM
Dun have liao gurl_tennis.... already demolished :sad: :sad:
Congrats...Its definitely a great start for Singapore Fed Team

hehe... nice to see some singlish being spoken here! there are synthetic grass courts at swissotel, yishun country club and bayshore! also, at temasek poly, there are us hardcourts! the ones seen in indian wells. for clay courts and indoor courts, i don't think so... anybody has any info on these courts?

xin_hui
Apr 25th, 2004, 01:52 PM
dun think spore has claycourts, prety hard to maintain claycourts, might become dirtcourts after a short time:lol:

crouching
Apr 25th, 2004, 02:07 PM
I wrote to the Straits Times forum page... Will they publish my letter? ***wonders***

"Dear Sir,

I'm writing to highlight the supreme efforts of the Singapore women's tennis team of Wong Rui Jing, Lee Wei Ping, Ng Yun Ling, and Tong Pei Ling. They produced a superb performance at the Federation Cup Asia/Oceania Zone Group II competition held in India from 20 April to 24 April 2004. The team finished in second place to earn promotion to Group I in 2005.

The Federation Cup is the premier international women's team tennis tournament with about one hundred participating nations. The top sixteen compete in the elite World Group for the trophy, while the rest play in their respective continental Zones – Europe/Africa, Americas and Asia/Oceania - to earn promotion to the World Group (from continental Zone Group I) or to a higher continental Zone Group the following year.

Singapore currently has no women players in the professional Women's Tennis Association (WTA) rankings, and Lee Wei Ping is the only player to feature in the International Tennis Federation world junior rankings at No. 522. The team played very well throughout the week against Pacific Oceania, Syria, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan to earn the right to compete against the top teams in the region, such as China, Indonesia, Thailand, South Korea, and Chinese Taipei, most of whom have WTA players ranked in the Top 100.

Well done Team Singapore! Train hard and do us proud in next year's competition.

Regards,

<my name>"

sirius21
Apr 25th, 2004, 02:13 PM
WOOHHOOOOO!!!! Singapore won a fed cup tie! yeah! way to go girls! wish i could say the same for the guys. they seem to be dropping every year. quite sad actually. the lack of recognition of the sport here.

sirius21
Apr 25th, 2004, 02:15 PM
dun think spore has claycourts, prety hard to maintain claycourts, might become dirtcourts after a short time:lol:

nope. paiseh. no clay courts in singapore. you're right. it's too hard to maintain. it might turn into "bukit merah" (redhill) haha... i'm not kidding. the rain washes all the soil out of the hill and the whole place turns red.

xin_hui
Apr 25th, 2004, 02:20 PM
WOOHHOOOOO!!!! Singapore won a fed cup tie! yeah! way to go girls! wish i could say the same for the guys. they seem to be dropping every year. quite sad actually. the lack of recognition of the sport here.
yah lah, the mens team pretty sad....:o

crouching
Apr 27th, 2004, 07:46 AM
I received a reply from the Straits Times:

"Thank you for writing to the Straits Times Forum. We receive, on average,
70 letters daily and publish up to a dozen, on a wide range of topics of public
interest.

We regret that we are unable to publish your letter."

Translated: We feel that there will be no public interest in the efforts of Singapore's women tennis team.

Greenout
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:06 AM
That is truly pathetic, isn't it? Here we have some nice home grown talent
trying their best in sports, and it's given the snub by the Straits Times?
Why is it so difficult to gain any support here? I do not get it. What's the
problem? Is it because Girls shouldn't be doing sports instead of school,
so they choose to ignore it?

The national football team is lame! It's really quite a shame. I'm really
disappointed and surprised at the attitude the local media is taking on
this.

lee station
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:10 AM
I received a reply from the Straits Times:

"Thank you for writing to the Straits Times Forum. We receive, on average,
70 letters daily and publish up to a dozen, on a wide range of topics of public
interest.

We regret that we are unable to publish your letter."

Translated: We feel that there will be no public interest in the efforts of Singapore's women tennis team.press tossers

Greenout
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:18 AM
press tossers

Paradorn didn't become THE PARADORN until latter stages in
his career; but the Thai press were always behind him. Look
at Angie she was getting alot of media coverage in Indonesia
as their tennis girl. I don't know what the S'pore media wants
here? Wei Ping isn't going suddenly enter the US OPEN and
beat Lindsay Davenport!!!!!!!!!!!! (duh!). You have to give
them a chance, and expect the fact that not everybody will
be super stars. This is what bugs me about sports and Singaporeans.
Everybody only wants winners, or stars. They have no respect or
use for others. This is why every dope only wears the football
jersey of the winning team or the number 1 on the leader board
during weekends. Where are all the people wearing Inter Milan
jerseys when their losing? It's all bandwagon hopping. It's quite
lame!!!!

Everyone is suddenly into the S-League only because the Japanese
team from Niigata brought some spark into it, other than that nobody
would've even cared!. Again- bandwagon jumping. I dare Singaporeans
to follow sports with their hearts, rather than their betting wallets.
Truly enjoy sports for what it is- not the sort of glory jumping name
dropping winners only attitudes that prevail too often here!

lee station
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:26 AM
yep screw 'em :D

sirius21
Apr 27th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Paradorn didn't become THE PARADORN until latter stages in
his career; but the Thai press were always behind him. Look
at Angie she was getting alot of media coverage in Indonesia
as their tennis girl. I don't know what the S'pore media wants
here? Wei Ping isn't going suddenly enter the US OPEN and
beat Lindsay Davenport!!!!!!!!!!!! (duh!). You have to give
them a chance, and expect the fact that not everybody will
be super stars. This is what bugs me about sports and Singaporeans.
Everybody only wants winners, or stars. They have no respect or
use for others. This is why every dope only wears the football
jersey of the winning team or the number 1 on the leader board
during weekends. Where are all the people wearing Inter Milan
jerseys when their losing? It's all bandwagon hopping. It's quite
lame!!!!

Everyone is suddenly into the S-League only because the Japanese
team from Niigata brought some spark into it, other than that nobody
would've even cared!. Again- bandwagon jumping. I dare Singaporeans
to follow sports with their hearts, rather than their betting wallets.
Truly enjoy sports for what it is- not the sort of glory jumping name
dropping winners only attitudes that prevail too often here!

:devil: to be honest, my personal opinion is that ppl only watch the S-League cos of the betting. without it, no one would even bother abt it. Niigata or not.

anyway. i'm not surprised at the straits times rejection. honestly speaking. how often do they feature local talent BESIDES the soccer players and the badminton and the table tennis. OUTSIDE of the SEA Games duration?

and don't get me started on the sports school.

gorecki
Apr 29th, 2004, 02:13 PM
mmmmmm we need to get a Sg thread back up again

just wondering how many of you have the XBOX game Top Spin
and intend to get Xbox Live???

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Apr 29th, 2004, 03:21 PM
I think I saw Wei ping playing doubles at Kallang Tennis Centre today
She has an offensive serve

New
Apr 29th, 2004, 04:19 PM
I think I saw Wei ping playing doubles at Kallang Tennis Centre today
She has an offensive serve

150mph??? ;) :p

sirius21
Apr 30th, 2004, 07:21 AM
i don't even have xbox

bubble
Apr 30th, 2004, 07:44 AM
Wow, thanks for the fed cup news, if not I will not even have known about it....
Yeah, the tennis coverage here is really awful, even though we may have an extensive international tennis coverage on Starhub cable tv, but the local tennis scene here really is pale....

What happened to the WTA tournament that was planned to be staged in Singapore very soon on a news article last year? :confused:

Greenout
Apr 30th, 2004, 08:05 AM
I think I saw Wei ping playing doubles at Kallang Tennis Centre today
She has an offensive serve


So, was is a decent serve? Better than Dementieva's I hope?





*Ps. No Gorecki- Me no have Xbox.

Sadka
Apr 30th, 2004, 08:05 AM
well done singapore :worship:

gorecki
Apr 30th, 2004, 09:02 AM
Wow, thanks for the fed cup news, if not I will not even have known about it....
Yeah, the tennis coverage here is really awful, even though we may have an extensive international tennis coverage on Starhub cable tv, but the local tennis scene here really is pale....

What happened to the WTA tournament that was planned to be staged in Singapore very soon on a news article last year? :confused:

yeah! :( i can't even consider SCV/StarSports tennis coverage decent, comparing it with the likes of Eurosport. :sad:

when they do give live coverage, it's always ATP Masters Series...

wateva
Apr 30th, 2004, 01:44 PM
i dun even have scv...:( seriously speaking, how many of u play tennis? anybody wants to have a tennis session?

xin_hui
Apr 30th, 2004, 02:08 PM
dunno what happened to the supposed wta event also:confused:

oh, gorecki, i'm not gonna buy x-box, not inclined towards these high tech stuff:D

should we revive the singaporeans thread in non-tennis?

bubble
Apr 30th, 2004, 03:38 PM
yeah! :( i can't even consider SCV/StarSports tennis coverage decent, comparing it with the likes of Eurosport. :sad:

when they do give live coverage, it's always ATP Masters Series...
Tat's true but in terms of Grand slams coverage, Supersports is very good...

I like watching ATP Masters and I believe they no longer uses biased ESPN but another company andwe have been getting up to 8 hrs live coverage every day in Monte Carlo last week. It's a step up from last year, hopefully the WTA will follow suit in the same format next yr since they are sharing some synergies this year.

Grice
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:22 PM
Hi aunty bubble, :wavey:

How have you been? why don't you play PAW anymore?? :confused:

gorecki
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:36 PM
dunno what happened to the supposed wta event also:confused:

oh, gorecki, i'm not gonna buy x-box, not inclined towards these high tech stuff:D

should we revive the singaporeans thread in non-tennis?
well there's the 'original' one now in the Chats thread and a new one started
by Je_ne_sais.... in the Non-Tennis thread.

heck. i'll bump both up and you guys decide which thread you want to post in.

bubble
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:39 PM
Hi aunty bubble, :wavey:

How have you been? why don't you play PAW anymore?? :confused:Hi Uncle ;)

I have been too busy at work since last year to play PAW.... This present job of mine is really a killer, really can't find the time, nowadays I will just come in , and view the scores and read posts... :(
However, think I will rejoin PAW maybe next week, to do some destressing...

gorecki
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:42 PM
Tat's true but in terms of Grand slams coverage, Supersports is very good...

I like watching ATP Masters and I believe they no longer uses biased ESPN but another company andwe have been getting up to 8 hrs live coverage every day in Monte Carlo last week. It's a step up from last year, hopefully the WTA will follow suit in the same format next yr since they are sharing some synergies this year.
well they are taking small tiny steps to improve the tennis coverage

just a little to slow for my liking! :p
i suppose it's tough to compete for airtime with golf and ...soccer :rolleyes:

gorecki
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Hi aunty bubble, :wavey:

How have you been? why don't you play PAW anymore?? :confused:
seems like a large number of Sg'reans play PAW
rarely see them outside the PAW threads! :confused:

bubble
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:55 PM
well they are taking small tiny steps to improve the tennis coverage

just a little to slow for my liking! :p
i suppose it's tough to compete for airtime with golf and ...soccer :rolleyes:
haha yeah for WTA it is too SNAIL SLOW, we kept getting delayed telecasts of QF/SF/F WTA tournament matches....
I finally was able to watch Elena's match against Venus W at the Nasdaq Open on Monday this week on Supersports .... :o

Harju.
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Great news.

Wei Ping Lee gets a WC for QD at 10K Tarakan, Indonesia.. which will be played next week.. I'm not sure she will be going there, though...

bubble
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:59 PM
seems like a large number of Sg'reans play PAW
rarely see them outside the PAW threads! :confused:
haha, yeah, I was shocked to see a Paw ranking thread for SIN/MAL just a min ago... :eek:

Wow, I think Grice has just rekindled my interest in playing again... :p

gorecki
Apr 30th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Great news.

Wei Ping Lee gets a WC for QD at 10K Tarakan, Indonesia.. which will be played next week.. I'm not sure she will be going there, though...
thanks for that info! :)

xin_hui
May 1st, 2004, 04:41 AM
i think we cant really complain abt the tennis coverage that we have. remember, we are a country with no decent players, we should be glad we actually get coverage.

and for the grand slams, we actually get whole day broadcast, which is much better than some countries. heck, even australia doesnt have such privileges!

Zhao
May 1st, 2004, 08:40 AM
i wonder if SCV may consider including the Tennis Channel/Eurosport in their list
Yeah many of us played PAW
but currently juz too busy to play on a consistent basis lor...
Auntie bubble/Ah MA Zhao vs Uncle Grice/Uncle William_rulez
*revived memories - Uncle William_rulez... i miss u...

gorecki
May 1st, 2004, 02:27 PM
if SCV does incluse TC and Eurosport, i'd definitely rush to get a DVD recorder!
but highly unlikely as tennis is considered to having a 'minority' following in singapore.
:fiery: :mad: :sad: :ras: :shout: :bs:
SCV <= :boxing: => Sg tennis fans

i guess a dvd recorder will be nice especially during the Grand Slams.

silverwhite
May 1st, 2004, 02:39 PM
if SCV does incluse TC and Eurosport, i'd definitely rush to get a DVD recorder!
but highly unlikely as tennis is considered to having a 'minority' following in singapore.
:fiery: :mad: :sad: :ras: :shout: :bs:
SCV <= :boxing: => Sg tennis fans

i guess a dvd recorder will be nice especially during the Grand Slams.

More like
Sg soccer fans <= :boxing: => Sg tennis fans

gorecki
May 1st, 2004, 03:51 PM
More like
Sg soccer fans <= :boxing: => Sg tennis fans
:lol:
true

xin_hui
May 2nd, 2004, 02:37 AM
if SCV does incluse TC and Eurosport, i'd definitely rush to get a DVD recorder!
but highly unlikely as tennis is considered to having a 'minority' following in singapore.
:fiery: :mad: :sad: :ras: :shout: :bs:
SCV <= :boxing: => Sg tennis fans

i guess a dvd recorder will be nice especially during the Grand Slams.
i dun have a DVD recorder, but my tape recorder also works overtime during grand slams:cool: oz open because i'm at school, us open and wimby because i'm sleeping. it only gets a rest during RG because it's holidays!:lol:

Grice
May 2nd, 2004, 07:37 AM
i wonder if SCV may consider including the Tennis Channel/Eurosport in their list
Yeah many of us played PAW
but currently juz too busy to play on a consistent basis lor...
Auntie bubble/Ah MA Zhao vs Uncle Grice/Uncle William_rulez
*revived memories - Uncle William_rulez... i miss u...
hihi Ah ma :wavey: , those were the days.. when u n Uncle william rulez (wonder what happened to him?? :confused:) always tried to beat one another.
yeah, aunty bubble coming back to PAW.. she's a good player!

oh, there was one day in the evening when all 3 sports channels were showing tennis, Chn 22 (women's tennis), Chn 23 (live telecast of some tournament in the USA), chn 24 (repeat telecast of men's Nasdaq tourny). :eek:

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 07:41 AM
i dun have a DVD recorder, but my tape recorder also works overtime during grand slams:cool: oz open because i'm at school, us open and wimby because i'm sleeping. it only gets a rest during RG because it's holidays!:lol:
why stop recording during RG?
don't you want to watch your favourite matches over and over again? ;)

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 07:49 AM
hihi Ah ma :wavey: , those were the days.. when u n Uncle william rulez (wonder what happened to him?? :confused:) always tried to beat one another.
yeah, aunty bubble coming back to PAW.. she's a good player!

oh, there was one day in the evening when all 3 sports channels were showing tennis, Chn 22 (women's tennis), Chn 23 (live telecast of some tournament in the USA), chn 24 (repeat telecast of men's Nasdaq tourny). :eek:
the programmer must have been sleeping! :haha: :(
if more of the asian players do better, especially at the Slams, maybe, just maybe we could have a tennis channel. or somehow tie in with Eurosport and get the rights to broadcast here as well.


nice to see Sg'reans doing well in PAW. :D

Grice
May 2nd, 2004, 08:38 AM
haha... ya i was shocked to see three channels showing tennis simultaneously! they're always showing soccer, soccer and soccer (even though i do like soccer) but it gets quite irritating.

xin_hui
May 2nd, 2004, 09:22 AM
why stop recording during RG?
don't you want to watch your favourite matches over and over again? ;)
:lol: :lol: i only rewatch matches that are hugely significant to me,no time to rewatch every match

Chet
May 2nd, 2004, 11:36 AM
Actually, women are allowed in the Singapore military. They just need not perform the compulsory military service boys have to go through. There are many female regular sevicewomen in the SAF. Other than that, I totally agree with your post, Greenout! (by the way, I've moved from Singapore to Australia :) )

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 01:12 PM
:lol: :lol: i only rewatch matches that are hugely significant to me,no time to rewatch every match
well yeah, i keep the portion of the tape of my fave match if it doesn't take up the whole tape and erase off the rest with new matches.

used to have heaps of tennis tapes, that was b4 some of them went mouldy or deteriorated with time :sad:

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 01:19 PM
So, was is a decent serve? Better than Dementieva's I hope?





*Ps. No Gorecki- Me no have Xbox.
Yea...it definitely looked better than dementieva's!:lol: :wavey:

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 01:20 PM
yay..Zhao just came back to PAW
hope to see Bubbles and Williamz Rulez back too!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 01:21 PM
gurl_tennis you shld try playing PAW too ;)

wateva
May 2nd, 2004, 01:21 PM
sigh... seems like everyone's contented with discussing tennis... nobody's interested in meeting up for a hitting session???? please?? come on, je_ne... ask them out for a session!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 01:30 PM
okay..anyone keen for a hitting session? ;)

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 01:42 PM
Actually, women are allowed in the Singapore military. They just need not perform the compulsory military service boys have to go through. There are many female regular sevicewomen in the SAF. Other than that, I totally agree with your post, Greenout! (by the way, I've moved from Singapore to Australia :) )
:wavey:

a permanent move to aussieland? or for studies/work?

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 01:46 PM
okay..anyone keen for a hitting session? ;)
where do you normally play?
weekdays/ends?

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 01:53 PM
weekends, in the east with wateva and firefly_ac

gorecki
May 2nd, 2004, 02:04 PM
ohhhh, me west-end boy.
Saturdays i suppose? perhaps i'll try and make it over one of these days. :D
but i'm not really good lah. :o

Zhao
May 2nd, 2004, 02:33 PM
yay..Zhao just came back to PAW
hope to see Bubbles and Williamz Rulez back too!

hey Auntie Bubble also making a comeback here arhh??
She's the first one to post her picks mah....
yeah Je_ne_sais_quoi n Grice
We going to show u guys GALS RULEZ IN PAW!!! :devil:

anway i also living in the west
JC quite bz liao
dun think got time... :sad: :sad:

Gorecki: No i also dun have XBox... :sad: :sad:

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 2nd, 2004, 02:36 PM
ohhhh, me west-end boy.
Saturdays i suppose? perhaps i'll try and make it over one of these days. :D
but i'm not really good lah. :o
okay..jus pm me or wateva if you're free to play during the weekends!:wavey:

sirius21
May 3rd, 2004, 06:55 AM
hello!

have u guys read the straits times today? monday, 3rd May.

They FINALLY decided to write something about the fed cup win. just a tiny article. bt enough for now. i know the guy who wrote it btw, i've been bugging him to feature tennis more often for ages. but he has to take orders from his boss so he can't do much abt it.

here's the article! :bounce:
__________________________________________________ ____
Singapore promoted to Group I
By Chia Han Keong

AFTER four years in the bottom rung of the Fed Cup, Singapore have finally been promoted.

Three wins and a loss in their Asia/Oceania Zone Group II matches in New Delhi last week saw them promoted to Group I.

Each year, the top two Group I countries enter a play-off competition for a World Group slot to challenge for the Fed Cup.

But not all four players who earned the promotion will take part next year.

Only 14-year-old Lee Wei Ping seems sure to return.

The lone full-time player, who trains in Taiwan, said: 'I'm looking forward to playing against top Asian countries like Thailand and Indonesia next year.'

However, students Tamsyn Tong and Cassandra Ng are uncertain as they will be taking their O-Level exams.

Captain Jaime Wong, 22, is an academic technology assistant at Georgia Institute of Technology after graduating there last December.

She was part of the 1999 squad who earned promotion to Group I before being relegated the next year.

But she is unsure of continuing her tennis career.

Jaime and Wei Ping won all their singles matches as Singapore defeated Turkmenistan (3-0), Syria (2-1) and the Pacific Oceania Islands (2-1).

They lost 0-3 in the inconsequential final tie against Kazakhstan, and were promoted after finishing second in Group II.

They will join Kazakhstan, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Taiwan, New Zealand, South Korea and India in Group I next year.

Uzbekistan and the Philippines are relegated.

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 3rd, 2004, 07:12 AM
go wei ping!:bounce:

hello!

have u guys read the straits times today? monday, 3rd May.

They FINALLY decided to write something about the fed cup win. just a tiny article. bt enough for now. i know the guy who wrote it btw, i've been bugging him to feature tennis more often for ages. but he has to take orders from his boss so he can't do much abt it.

here's the article! :bounce:
__________________________________________________ ____
Singapore promoted to Group I
By Chia Han Keong

AFTER four years in the bottom rung of the Fed Cup, Singapore have finally been promoted.

Three wins and a loss in their Asia/Oceania Zone Group II matches in New Delhi last week saw them promoted to Group I.

Each year, the top two Group I countries enter a play-off competition for a World Group slot to challenge for the Fed Cup.

But not all four players who earned the promotion will take part next year.

Only 14-year-old Lee Wei Ping seems sure to return.

The lone full-time player, who trains in Taiwan, said: 'I'm looking forward to playing against top Asian countries like Thailand and Indonesia next year.'

However, students Tamsyn Tong and Cassandra Ng are uncertain as they will be taking their O-Level exams.

Captain Jaime Wong, 22, is an academic technology assistant at Georgia Institute of Technology after graduating there last December.

She was part of the 1999 squad who earned promotion to Group I before being relegated the next year.

But she is unsure of continuing her tennis career.

Jaime and Wei Ping won all their singles matches as Singapore defeated Turkmenistan (3-0), Syria (2-1) and the Pacific Oceania Islands (2-1).

They lost 0-3 in the inconsequential final tie against Kazakhstan, and were promoted after finishing second in Group II.

They will join Kazakhstan, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Taiwan, New Zealand, South Korea and India in Group I next year.

Uzbekistan and the Philippines are relegated.

gorecki
May 3rd, 2004, 09:58 AM
:wavey: sirius21

thanks for the article! i wouldn't have seen the article had you not post it in here!

xin_hui
May 3rd, 2004, 10:09 AM
yah, i noe. i saw the article, but was rushing off to sch this morning, so no time to tell u guys...

i cant play paw lah, no time.....

my bulk of tapes are tennis tapes and swimming tapes. they are piling up like a mountain:eek:

gorecki
May 3rd, 2004, 10:26 AM
ah gurl (can i call u that? :D )
perhaps we'll enjoy the thrill of PAW through our compatriots. :) Jia You!!! ;)

yeap. that's why i thinking of a DVD recorder where i can transfer my fave matches to DVD format. less space and the comfort that they can have a longer lifespan.

xin_hui
May 3rd, 2004, 10:29 AM
ah gurl (can i call u that? :D )
perhaps we'll enjoy the thrill of PAW through our compatriots. :) Jia You!!! ;)

yeap. that's why i thinking of a DVD recorder where i can transfer my fave matches to DVD format. less space and the comfort that they can have a longer lifespan.
everyone can call me janice:)
but a DVD recorder needs $ u know? i'm pretty satisfied with my use of tapes currently...
oh yah, i cant play tennis for nuts lah, but if we all going out for tennis, i can be the ball gal..:lol:

gorecki
May 3rd, 2004, 10:40 AM
:wavey: Janice


it's always down to $$$ isn't it?
wait for the price to drop... :tennis:

New
May 3rd, 2004, 12:27 PM
ohhhh, me west-end boy.
Saturdays i suppose? perhaps i'll try and make it over one of these days. :D
but i'm not really good lah. :o

I'm also a west side boy who's very bad...that's an understatement...horrible would be better..... I'm sure wateva, firefly_ac, Je_ne_sais_quoi and Grice can tell you how bad I'm!!!

Glad to see a small article at least one article is better than no article....:bounce:

Grice
May 3rd, 2004, 01:06 PM
I'm also a west side boy who's very bad...that's an understatement...horrible would be better..... I'm sure wateva, firefly_ac, Je_ne_sais_quoi and Grice can tell you how bad I'm!!!

Glad to see a small article at least one article is better than no article....:bounce:
to all the west-siders, I'm sure wateva, je_ne, firefly_ac wun mind going to the beautiful west to play :lol:
and New, you're not bad in tennis lah, it's juz that the awesome three ;) are simply too good... :D
haha. i still remember how the moonball rally stunned firefly_ac... :eek:

gorecki
May 3rd, 2004, 03:36 PM
oooo moonball rally!!! :woohoo: :tennis: :lol: :yeah:

nice to play with people of various playing styles, all court, baseliner, scrambler, net rusher, etc... :)

davenport_1
May 3rd, 2004, 06:34 PM
OMG I can't believe you beat syria and turkmenistan!.....

Chet
May 4th, 2004, 02:13 AM
:wavey:

a permanent move to aussieland? or for studies/work?
For studies, but with a view to a permanent move ;) . Haven't played tennis since I moved here in Feb, though. I'm dying to play but dunno where to find hitting partners. If anyone in Sydney wants to hit, do contact me!

Greenout
May 4th, 2004, 02:23 AM
For studies, but with a view to a permanent move ;) . Haven't played tennis since I moved here in Feb, though. I'm dying to play but dunno where to find hitting partners. If anyone in Sydney wants to hit, do contact me!


So, you finally moved Chet! :lol:


Great to see the girls finally get a freaking article in the
Straits Times.


Too bad we don't get the popular Anime show PRINCE OF TENNIS
in Singapore. And it's a shame that we haven't seen
"ACE" a Japanese TV drama starring teen star Ueto Aya, about
a high school girl who plays tennis.
Damn all the K-Pop crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fiery:

bubble
May 4th, 2004, 03:19 AM
yay..Zhao just came back to PAW
hope to see Bubbles and Williamz Rulez back too!
Yup, like Ah ma Zhao has said, I'm back :p

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 4th, 2004, 04:04 AM
welcome back auntie bubbles! ;)

Janice you got lotsa tennis videos ar?!
heh heh..:hehehe:

Grice
May 4th, 2004, 04:29 AM
So, you finally moved Chet! :lol:


Too bad we don't get the popular Anime show PRINCE OF TENNIS
in Singapore. And it's a shame that we haven't seen
"ACE" a Japanese TV drama starring teen star Ueto Aya, about
a high school girl who plays tennis.
Damn all the K-Pop crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fiery:
oooh.. i watched the first segment of PRINCE OF TENNIS and i love it. can't wait to buy the rest and watch too. :bounce:

Wildcard Zhao has taken a huge lead in PAW ! :eek:

bubble
May 4th, 2004, 05:36 AM
oooh.. i watched the first segment of PRINCE OF TENNIS and i love it. can't wait to buy the rest and watch too. :bounce:

Wildcard Zhao has taken a huge lead in PAW ! :eek:

It's ok, we will catch up ;)

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 07:07 AM
For studies, but with a view to a permanent move ;) . Haven't played tennis since I moved here in Feb, though. I'm dying to play but dunno where to find hitting partners. If anyone in Sydney wants to hit, do contact me!
i see... well do remember to come back to Sg every now and then u hear?
the makan here is always bagus yah? :lol:
but there will be things you won't be missing about Sg as well, censorship for one... :rolleyes:


perhaps you can try your Uni tennis club?

or head to the nearest tennis centre - they usually organize tennis nights for regulars and newcomers. i tried it out while i was studying in Oz and it's nice to play with different players of varying styles. :)

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 07:14 AM
So, you finally moved Chet! :lol:


Great to see the girls finally get a freaking article in the
Straits Times.


Too bad we don't get the popular Anime show PRINCE OF TENNIS
in Singapore. And it's a shame that we haven't seen
"ACE" a Japanese TV drama starring teen star Ueto Aya, about
a high school girl who plays tennis.
Damn all the K-Pop crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fiery:
Greeny:
i thought they are showing Prince of Tennis on Channel i on Sunday mornings?
i wasn't feeling well one weekend and stayed home and caught up with the cartoons
and they showed the first episode, that was like a month back.

carot was telling me the series gets a little later on as the players have like some "killer shot" ala King of Fighters/Dead Or Alive/... :eek:

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 07:27 AM
oooh.. i watched the first segment of PRINCE OF TENNIS and i love it. can't wait to buy the rest and watch too. :bounce:

Wildcard Zhao has taken a huge lead in PAW ! :eek:
did you catch it on telly or bought the VCD?

i remember one old japanese tennis series,
the player could hit a topspin shot and then the ball could hit the tape and spin along the top of the net and finally dribble over :haha:
:o
i wasn't even a tennis nut as a small kid but i can remember that. :D

xin_hui
May 4th, 2004, 07:37 AM
welcome back auntie bubbles! ;)

Janice you got lotsa tennis videos ar?!
heh heh..:hehehe:
i have more swimming tapes than tennis tapes...but my tennis tapes all not labelled, must figure them out someday...:o

Greenout
May 4th, 2004, 07:43 AM
Greeny:
i thought they are showing Prince of Tennis on Channel i on Sunday mornings?
i wasn't feeling well one weekend and stayed home and caught up with the cartoons
and they showed the first episode, that was like a month back.

carot was telling me the series gets a little later on as the players have like some "killer shot" ala King of Fighters/Dead Or Alive/... :eek:


Your right it is on Channel I ;but is is dubbed into Chinese or
is it dual sound w/Japanese? I'm hopeless in Chinese. Learned
a couple of Hokkien swear words, that's about it. ;)

sirius21
May 4th, 2004, 10:01 AM
the only tennis show i remember is that pathetic channel 8 drama back in.....ermmmmm... dunno when also... super long ago..... with ann kok and erm..... cannot remember liao. but that was quite. bad...

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 10:23 AM
Your right it is on Channel I ;but is is dubbed into Chinese or
is it dual sound w/Japanese? I'm hopeless in Chinese. Learned
a couple of Hokkien swear words, that's about it. ;)
i could have sworn it was in English...:shrug:
maybe i was so sick i couldn't differentiate English from Mandarin :lol:
well from what i saw in the first episode, most of the tennis action are close up shots, and as usual, slo-mo for their "killer move" ;)

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 10:25 AM
a little :offtopic:
but have any of you guys heard the album by local group The Observatory?
is the entire album worth getting?

Grice
May 4th, 2004, 01:03 PM
did you catch it on telly or bought the VCD?

i remember one old japanese tennis series,
the player could hit a topspin shot and then the ball could hit the tape and spin along the top of the net and finally dribble over :haha:
:o
i wasn't even a tennis nut as a small kid but i can remember that. :D
I caught it on VCD (my fren lent it to me) and it was in Japanese with English subtitles. but i love it... :hearts:

Grice
May 4th, 2004, 01:05 PM
the only tennis show i remember is that pathetic channel 8 drama back in.....ermmmmm... dunno when also... super long ago..... with ann kok and erm..... cannot remember liao. but that was quite. bad...
that show was so DUH... the character ann kok acted as had leukemia and was sprawling on the floor during the doubles match almost dying... so unrealistic and typical of Chn 8 shows :rolleyes:

can't wait for the Wimbledon movie! :drool:

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 01:39 PM
that's with Kristen Dunst in the lead yeah?

which isn't a bad choice, but i'd pick...

Natalie Portman :hearts:
Keira Knightley :D
Beyonce as a Serena-ish rival :lol:

New
May 4th, 2004, 04:16 PM
to all the west-siders, I'm sure wateva, je_ne, firefly_ac wun mind going to the beautiful west to play :lol:
and New, you're not bad in tennis lah, it's juz that the awesome three ;) are simply too good... :D
haha. i still remember how the moonball rally stunned firefly_ac... :eek:

Well the truth is i dun have the skills to hit fast and winning shots... i try to keep up with the rest but cant... normally i play very weakly... i normally only try to keep the ball in

...if i try to hit fast or hard it is 80 percent out or hit the net....

croat123
May 4th, 2004, 05:50 PM
it is amazing, but, at the same time, croatia only has a bit more than 4 million people and has only existed for a bit over 10 years and we have 3 gs champions.

gorecki
May 4th, 2004, 07:57 PM
it is amazing, but, at the same time, croatia only has a bit more than 4 million people and has only existed for a bit over 10 years and we have 3 gs champions.
perhaps you like to check and compare the land area of the two countries as well?
lifestyles, customs, the way things work in the country do make some difference...

Grice
May 5th, 2004, 12:45 AM
it is amazing, but, at the same time, croatia only has a bit more than 4 million people and has only existed for a bit over 10 years and we have 3 gs champions.
ya i agree with Gorecki, you gotta look at the demography, the culture etc... here in Singapore, we hardly have space for tennis courts... so much so that some tennis courts are on roof tops and we don't even have proper grass and clay courts. + the authorities don't value tennis much... no sponsorship = little progress. :mad:

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 01:02 AM
:wavey: Grice

and from a young age, the school system/government/parents/etc have been 'instilling' the mantra that

art + sports = $$$$$$

:bigcry: :mad: :bs:

unfortunately our society has taught us to be in for the rat race at a young age.
sad really...

Grice
May 5th, 2004, 01:49 AM
:wavey: Grice

and from a young age, the school system/government/parents/etc have been 'instilling' the mantra that

art + sports = $$$$$$

:bigcry: :mad: :bs:

unfortunately our society has taught us to be in for the rat race at a young age.
sad really...
Good morning gorecki :wavey: you're early!

but someday I still hope somehow we'll be able to produce a WTA or ATP player in the Top 100 or even Top 20. Well, if Seles started off hitting balls against the wall of a carpark, I don't see why we can't produce tennis champions.

and I hope someday there'll be a Tier 1 or 2 WTA tour tournament here... maybe near the Australian Open or near the end of the year carpet season (Tokyo Open etc). :drool: [and hopefully Seles is still on the tour and turns up:hearts: ]

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 5th, 2004, 02:32 AM
yea...someday...
we don't even have proper stadium facilities for tennis to be played.

Perhaps they could transform the indoor stadium into a indoor carpet tennis arena.
tt'll be brilliant!

New
May 5th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Well, if Seles started off hitting balls against the wall of a carpark, I don't see why we can't produce tennis champions.


hmm.. that's something to think about... but i need running shoes also just in case one of the balls smash one of the windshield of the cars.... :p

Zhao
May 5th, 2004, 04:40 AM
yesterday i heard from my bro tt there's actually indoor tennis courts in Sembawang Warves.....one of those key installation where US...AUST...NEW ZEALAND etc soldiers are stationed....

As for PAW..i m going to play my usual style...GO FOR IT...!!!Take BIG RISK!!!

Zhao
May 5th, 2004, 04:42 AM
It's ok, we will catch up ;)

WEI...aren't we supposed to be a team??? :o :o

New
May 5th, 2004, 04:57 AM
yesterday i heard from my bro tt there's actually indoor tennis courts in Sembawang Warves.....one of those key installation where US...AUST...NEW ZEALAND etc soldiers are stationed....

As for PAW..i m going to play my usual style...GO FOR IT...!!!Take BIG RISK!!!

yes i know of an indoor court but it's often booked and very expensive... for obvious reasons...

xin_hui
May 5th, 2004, 06:32 AM
the only tennis show i remember is that pathetic channel 8 drama back in.....ermmmmm... dunno when also... super long ago..... with ann kok and erm..... cannot remember liao. but that was quite. bad...
i lurve that show:hearts: it actually got me down to the tennis courts as a little gal, trying to hit the funny shots they did
and it starred chen xiuhuan, my fave actress then!

wateva
May 5th, 2004, 06:38 AM
i lurve that show:hearts: it actually got me down to the tennis courts as a little gal, trying to hit the funny shots they did
and it starred chen xiuhuan, my fave actress then!
Is it the one with the 'Xuan2 Zhuan3 Qiu2" where the opponent had to see the shadow of the ball in order to strike it?
:lol:

xin_hui
May 5th, 2004, 06:56 AM
Is it the one with the 'Xuan2 Zhuan3 Qiu2" where the opponent had to see the shadow of the ball in order to strike it?
:lol:
yah yah!!!:lol: it was that show with all the kind of shots that didnt exist in real life

Zhao
May 5th, 2004, 08:14 AM
n the song is by none other than Kym Ng lor....

Its gonna be hard to host even a Tier III tourney here
we discussed this issue previously in non-tennis...
basically i can forsee poor attendance figures...
n where issit gonna be held?? Indoor Stadium again??

that goes back to the same topic again
Table-tennis is a popular sport now becoz we 'produced' world class
players in Li Jiawei n Jing Junhong
Tennis needs to beed such champions to get the same kinda exposure....
same kinda sponsorship...same kinda popularity

xin_hui
May 5th, 2004, 10:45 AM
n the song is by none other than Kym Ng lor....

Its gonna be hard to host even a Tier III tourney here
we discussed this issue previously in non-tennis...
basically i can forsee poor attendance figures...
n where issit gonna be held?? Indoor Stadium again??

that goes back to the same topic again
Table-tennis is a popular sport now becoz we 'produced' world class
players in Li Jiawei n Jing Junhong
Tennis needs to beed such champions to get the same kinda exposure....
same kinda sponsorship...same kinda popularity
;) i like the way u highlight "produced". its easy to find sponsorships for tabletennis, badminton, because their prize money is so low, and the players live in dorms, not five star hotels. thats why sponsors just have to pay a little to get top class players in spore
but for tennis, the prizemoney is so high, u have to pay appearance fees, pay for the hotels. with little interest in tennis in spore, will any sponsor be willing to take up this task?

Grice
May 5th, 2004, 11:17 AM
;) i like the way u highlight "produced". its easy to find sponsorships for tabletennis, badminton, because their prize money is so low, and the players live in dorms, not five star hotels. thats why sponsors just have to pay a little to get top class players in spore
but for tennis, the prizemoney is so high, u have to pay appearance fees, pay for the hotels. with little interest in tennis in spore, will any sponsor be willing to take up this task?
sounds like it'll never be possible to have a WTA tournament in S'pore... :sad:

Zhao
May 5th, 2004, 12:58 PM
*pat Grice on the back

Dun be too pessimistic lah...nothing is for certain...
maybe Singtel/M1 can host exhibitions for a start lor... :yeah:

Zhao
May 5th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Gorecki : i heard that XBOX LIVE cannot work with XBOX modified versions issit true??
anyway have u got it??

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 01:37 PM
i think the last time there was a WTA event in Sg was in the late 80s
the last one was held in 1990... :sad: Naoko Sawamatsu was the winner
it was held in during the month of Aprilat Kallang, guess the tennis calendar has gradually changed...


sorry to be a wet blanket, but isn't there already a WTA event in Shanghai?
over there, the promoters will probably will get more revenue from ticket sales.

don't know if any of you remember the exhibition way back in 1990, also at Kallang?
Martina Navartilova vs Chris Evert
Monica Seles vs Jennifer Capriati
:eek: :worship: :D

i think that was the last time we ever had top-notched players over.
Anna, excluded :p and she didn't even play any tennis while she was here!

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 01:40 PM
Gorecki : i heard that XBOX LIVE cannot work with XBOX modified versions issit true??
anyway have u got it??
what i read is that MS will shut down any live account that's created on a modified xbox console.

nope haven't got it, no time to play! :bigcry:

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 01:47 PM
tournaments near our region:


Feb 2 - Feb 8 Toray Pan Pacific OpenTokyo, Japan Carpet

Feb 16 - Feb 22 WTA Indian OpenHyderabad, India Hard

Sep 13 - Sep 19 Wismilak InternationalBali, Indonesia Hard

Sep 20 - Sep 26 Shanghai OpenShanghai, China Hard

Sep 27 - Oct 3 Tashkent OpenTashkent, Uzbekistan Hard

Oct 4 - Oct 10 Japan Open Tennis Championships Tokyo, Japan Hard

Nov 8 - Nov 14 Volvo Women's Open Pattaya, Thailand Hard



i guess the only can of catching any in-the-flesh-live matches will be to head down to one of the above. not to mention the australian circuit in Jan.

(Perth [Hopman Cup], NZ, Hobart, Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne)

Grice
May 5th, 2004, 06:30 PM
i think the last time there was a WTA event in Sg was in the late 80s
the last one was held in 1990... :sad: Naoko Sawamatsu was the winner
it was held in during the month of Aprilat Kallang, guess the tennis calendar has gradually changed...


sorry to be a wet blanket, but isn't there already a WTA event in Shanghai?
over there, the promoters will probably will get more revenue from ticket sales.

don't know if any of you remember the exhibition way back in 1990, also at Kallang?
Martina Navartilova vs Chris Evert
Monica Seles vs Jennifer Capriati
:eek: :worship: :D

i think that was the last time we ever had top-notched players over.
Anna, excluded :p and she didn't even play any tennis while she was here!
oh my goodness!! :eek: Monica was here before !! sheeesh.. i was too young then to know..

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 11:53 PM
yeah, my interest in tennis just picked up round that time
the year b4 was the Michael Chang boom/phenomenon in Sg/Asia when he won the French Open, beatingIvan Lendl in an epic five setter and Stefan Edberg in the final.

i guess the majority of you guys are too young to remember...
coz i can barely myself ;)

gorecki
May 5th, 2004, 11:55 PM
oh yeah, Grice, that exhibition between Martina/Chris + Monica/Jennifer.
If i recall correctly, they came here to play just after the US Open and were en route to Japan for tournaments.

Monica was using the Prince Graphite then
and was a blonde back then as well ;)

ico4498
May 6th, 2004, 12:04 AM
thanks for sharing that!

gorecki
May 6th, 2004, 01:07 AM
thanks for sharing that!
:wavey: are you singaporean?

ico4498
May 6th, 2004, 01:32 AM
no.

sorry for the misunderstanding, my post was a response to New's original post.
easy to support Singapore after reading such a well written piece.

peace

gorecki
May 6th, 2004, 02:41 AM
actually, i assumed you were replying to the title of the thread, so there's no misunderstanding. :)

:hug:

sirius21
May 6th, 2004, 03:02 AM
hmm... never knew wta paid a visit to our...currently very rainy shores.
i remember the atp held a tournament here once, or twice... and rios, chang and a bunch of other guys came. then of course, there was the mens' senior tour. caught that on tv...they were so hilarious on court!!!! :haha:

xin_hui
May 6th, 2004, 07:03 AM
there was a heineken mens tournament in singapore

i know chang, rios, hewitt, scud, srichaphan....all came. it ended in 1999

sirius21
May 6th, 2004, 11:58 AM
they only had it for two years i think.

gorecki
May 6th, 2004, 03:56 PM
i was away during the years the ATP event was held at the Indoor Stadium!!! :bigcry:

Marcelo Rios...
I think Thomas Johansson was a semifinalist/finalist in one year, if i recall correctly.

i believe there was an indoor event in Malaysia a few years ago as well.

gorecki
May 6th, 2004, 04:01 PM
n the song is by none other than Kym Ng lor....

Its gonna be hard to host even a Tier III tourney here
we discussed this issue previously in non-tennis...
basically i can forsee poor attendance figures...
n where issit gonna be held?? Indoor Stadium again??

that goes back to the same topic again
Table-tennis is a popular sport now becoz we 'produced' world class
players in Li Jiawei n Jing Junhong
Tennis needs to beed such champions to get the same kinda exposure....
same kinda sponsorship...same kinda popularity
oh...
and now i recall the days when Kym started out as a singer
didn't she had like two albums b4 she became an actress/presenter
it's all coming back to me now... :p

New
May 6th, 2004, 04:20 PM
Hello!!! anyone for tennis???? Not competitive one just hit around...played with grice today... he's better... having more clean shots than me but it was fun and i think i learnt a thing or two... :)

gorecki
May 6th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Hello!!! anyone for tennis???? Not competitive one just hit around...played with grice today... he's better... having more clean shots than me but it was fun and i think i learnt a thing or two... :)
probably not this week...sorry.
what are the days/time that you are free?

Grice
May 7th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Hello!!! anyone for tennis???? Not competitive one just hit around...played with grice today... he's better... having more clean shots than me but it was fun and i think i learnt a thing or two... :)
you all should have seen New's defensive skills :eek: and how he covered the court so well. :D

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 7th, 2004, 01:57 AM
you all should have seen New's defensive skills :eek: and how he covered the court so well. :D
:eek: So we have a new amanda coetzer now?:p

sirius21
May 7th, 2004, 02:59 AM
oh...
and now i recall the days when Kym started out as a singer
didn't she had like two albums b4 she became an actress/presenter
it's all coming back to me now... :p
hmm...can't really remember the song...u mean it was kym ng?

Elvira
May 7th, 2004, 03:54 AM
You can download the "Prince of Tennis" series off places like kazaa and BitTorrents... and they always have english subtitles, as well. They're quite colorful and fun! :)

xin_hui
May 7th, 2004, 07:04 AM
hmm...can't really remember the song...u mean it was kym ng?
i oso cant remember the song....:o i just remember the show

gorecki
May 7th, 2004, 08:04 AM
you all should have seen New's defensive skills :eek: and how he covered the court so well. :D
or Martina Hingis perhaps? :D ;)

gorecki
May 7th, 2004, 08:06 AM
hmm...can't really remember the song...u mean it was kym ng?
i meant i recall her starting out with her singing 'career' back then.
to be honest, i don't remember that tennis serial you guys' talking about :lol:

xin_hui
May 7th, 2004, 08:15 AM
i meant i recall her starting out with her singing 'career' back then.
to be honest, i don't remember that tennis serial you guys' talking about :lol:
there was only one tennis drama serial in the entire history of ch8 drama:lol:

gorecki
May 7th, 2004, 08:26 AM
i had the telly an hour earlier and Ch5 had some health programme on.
and for a split second there was a clip of ATP players playing on local ground!

just wanted to add that there used to be a ATP Challenger event held at the
SICC (singapore island country club)
even that is gone now...

but yes, the sponsors are willing to fork out heaps to bring in world-class male/female(annika sorentam) golfers for a weekend.
such is sport....

gorecki
May 7th, 2004, 08:27 AM
there was only one tennis drama serial in the entire history of ch8 drama:lol:
:wavey: janice

maybe it was so bad my brain cells have totally blocked out that serial from my memory ;)
:lol:

xin_hui
May 7th, 2004, 11:44 AM
i had the telly an hour earlier and Ch5 had some health programme on.
and for a split second there was a clip of ATP players playing on local ground!

just wanted to add that there used to be a ATP Challenger event held at the
SICC (singapore island country club)
even that is gone now...

but yes, the sponsors are willing to fork out heaps to bring in world-class male/female(annika sorentam) golfers for a weekend.
such is sport....
challenger tournaments are not enough. people would have at least heard of the top players' names. so bringing them here will enable singaporeans to see these top players. only then will it boost their interests

sirius21
May 7th, 2004, 01:46 PM
:wavey: janice

maybe it was so bad my brain cells have totally blocked out that serial from my memory ;)
:lol:

hmmm...that's not surprising...we have a lot of very bad shows.
:haha:

New
May 7th, 2004, 03:32 PM
challenger tournaments are not enough. people would have at least heard of the top players' names. so bringing them here will enable singaporeans to see these top players. only then will it boost their interests

I think most of the Singaporeans only know Anna Kournikova. Only tennis fans like us will know more than that.

Furthermore, looking at the schedule it is most probably possible for an event only to be around January, before Australian Open, Feburary in Dubai Or October near Bangkok Open, which is not in the school holidays...most students are studying and people are working...response won't be great.

Highly unlikely it would be plausible to have a tournament here, unless it is in end May or June (Clay season and Grass season) big players won't come too..

New
May 7th, 2004, 03:37 PM
or Martina Hingis perhaps? :D ;)

Nah... I cannot make all types of shots like her... Coetzer does sound better though...

New
May 7th, 2004, 03:53 PM
Hey i just saw the results for Jarkarta 10K... Weiping didn't even join...why? I thought she had a wildcard? I was hoping she win her first 10K challengers... :sad:

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 02:55 AM
Hey i just saw the results for Jarkarta 10K... Weiping didn't even join...why? I thought she had a wildcard? I was hoping she win her first 10K challengers... :sad:
:shrug:

Grice
May 8th, 2004, 03:45 AM
Hey i just saw the results for Jarkarta 10K... Weiping didn't even join...why? I thought she had a wildcard? I was hoping she win her first 10K challengers... :sad:
sad case !!

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 04:06 AM
Question Time!!! :D :woohoo:

Your Racket Brand:
Your String Brand:
String Tension:
Shoe Brand:
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: [as in what you like to wear, NOT what your fave players wear] (guess they can often be related... :p )
Tennis Ball:

i'll start!


Your Racket Brand: Yonex (using it for 4 yrs and i don't think i can switch to say, Head or Wilson now...)
Your String Brand: Gamma
String Tension: 55lbs
Shoe Brand: New Balance (but i like adidas shoes as well)
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: [as in what you like to wear, NOT what your fave players wear]: adidas
Tennis Ball: my friends like the feel/bounce of Dunlop, so...

xin_hui
May 8th, 2004, 04:11 AM
Question Time!!! :D :woohoo:

Your Racket Brand:
Your String Brand:
String Tension:
Shoe Brand:
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: [as in what you like to wear, NOT what your fave players wear] (guess they can often be related... :p )
Tennis Ball:

i'll start!


Your Racket Brand: Yonex (using it for 4 yrs and i don't think i can switch to say, Head or Wilson now...)
Your String Brand: Gamma
String Tension: 55lbs
Shoe Brand: New Balance (but i like adidas shoes as well)
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: [as in what you like to wear, NOT what your fave players wear]: adidas
Tennis Ball: my friends like the feel/bounce of Dunlop, so...
none! i dun play!

sirius21
May 8th, 2004, 04:33 AM
I think most of the Singaporeans only know Anna Kournikova. Only tennis fans like us will know more than that.


and agassi and johnny mac... and becker... and michael chang...and at most, paradorn. they need to update their brains.

xin_hui
May 8th, 2004, 04:41 AM
and agassi and johnny mac... and becker... and michael chang...and at most, paradorn. they need to update their brains.
u cant blame them....does our free to air channels ever show tennis? no, only soocer and golf:mad:

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 05:00 AM
Your Racket Brand: Babolat Pure Drive (Go Kim!)
Your String Brand: Kirschbaum Super Smash Pikey (Very durable!)
String Tension: 58
Shoe Brand: Nike
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: No Preferences leh...
Tennis Ball: Running short of balls!!! btw, dunlop coaching balls suck! they dun bounce! and the balls now are so ex!!!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 8th, 2004, 05:22 AM
Your Racquet Brand: Dunlop 300G (amelie's racquet)
Your String Brand: Wilson Stamina
String Tension: 60
Shoe Brand: Umbro
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: Sergio Tachinni
Tennis Ball: Wilson Double Core

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 02:07 PM
Your Racket Brand: Babolat Pure Drive (Go Kim!)
Your String Brand: Kirschbaum Super Smash Pikey (Very durable!)
String Tension: 58
Shoe Brand: Nike
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: No Preferences leh...
Tennis Ball: Running short of balls!!! btw, dunlop coaching balls suck! they dun bounce! and the balls now are so ex!!!
i find dunlop fort balls wear out very quickly, definitely much quicker than most wilson balls, but some of my friends bitch whenever i bring wilson balls :rolleyes:

Kirschbaum Super Smash Pikey? how much is that and where do you string?

Grice
May 8th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Your Racket Brand: Wilson Hammer Titanium / Fischer
Your String Brand: Gamma
String Tension: 58
Shoe Brand: Adidas
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: Adidas
Tennis Ball: Wilson Trainer (I love them!! :hearts: )

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Your Racquet Brand: Dunlop 300G (amelie's racquet)
Your String Brand: Wilson Stamina
String Tension: 60
Shoe Brand: Umbro
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: Sergio Tachinni
Tennis Ball: Wilson Double Core
do you find the Dunlop 300G a little heavy in the swingweight?

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Your Racket Brand: Wilson Hammer Titanium / Fischer
Your String Brand: Gamma
String Tension: 58
Shoe Brand: Adidas
Fave Tennis Clothing Brand: Adidas
Tennis Ball: Wilson Trainer (I love them!! :hearts: )
Fischer is the brand with the 3 triangles/pyramid logo right?
the brand Kafelnikov uses/used?

Grice
May 8th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Fischer is the brand with the 3 triangles/pyramid logo right?
the brand Kafelnikov uses/used?
not sure if he uses that brand ! but i do know my racket is or was the lightest racket in the world.. heehee... 198g ?

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Super Smash SPikey i meant... it's about 20 plus. the strings are quite uncommon... but u can definitely find them at queensways' sportslink. Very good strings. can last for at least half a year. think myskina or schnyder uses this brand.

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 8th, 2004, 03:50 PM
do you find the Dunlop 300G a little heavy in the swingweight?
Nope, not at all, it's only 10.8 ounces. rather manuervable at the net
which yonex model are you using?

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 03:51 PM
and yes, fischer is used by kafelnikov! it's also endorsed by francesca, vivi, andrei pavel, elena baltacha etc!

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 03:55 PM
forgot to add vera zvonareva to the list! and i find 300g a little too heavy for the swing weight! pure drive's better!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 8th, 2004, 04:01 PM
forgot to add vera zvonareva to the list! and i find 300g a little too heavy for the swing weight! pure drive's better!
Pure drive has too much power, too wild for my liking.:p

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 04:08 PM
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Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 8th, 2004, 04:11 PM
yah... with your forehand, it'll get even wilder!! haha!!!
shuddup bitch.:rolleyes: you'll experience Amelie's power tomorrow!:fiery:

wateva
May 8th, 2004, 04:20 PM
anybody wants to try out kim and amelie tomorrow?

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 04:49 PM
not sure if he uses that brand ! but i do know my racket is or was the lightest racket in the world.. heehee... 198g ?
sounds light, won't it crack easily? :p

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Super Smash SPikey i meant... it's about 20 plus. the strings are quite uncommon... but u can definitely find them at queensways' sportslink. Very good strings. can last for at least half a year. think myskina or schnyder uses this brand.
thanks for the info
still experimenting with different strings to see which one suits me

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 04:53 PM
anybody wants to try out kim and amelie tomorrow?
where and what time are you playing?

gorecki
May 8th, 2004, 05:00 PM
Nope, not at all, it's only 10.8 ounces. rather manuervable at the net
which yonex model are you using?
Yonex RD-70 Long (105)

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 8th, 2004, 05:16 PM
deleted. gorecki, please edit ur post...

gladysharon
May 8th, 2004, 05:41 PM
congrats Singapore! :D

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 12:51 AM
edited

oh. not the best timing for me - prior engagment already confirm.
no worries! i'll try and free myself one of these weekends and have a hit with you guys!
but please! be gentle. :lol: :angel:

Nope, i think that one is RD Ti-70.
I'm using the model Martina, Anna, Natasha Zvereva once used.
The racket Martina used in '97 to win 3 of 4 GS titles.
:angel: not that i'm any good :o

sirius21
May 9th, 2004, 03:22 AM
i suck at the game... sigh... i always send the balls flying madly in every which way... and out onto the road.... sigh...

New
May 9th, 2004, 04:20 AM
I used to do that too... now the balls fly less out( but still do sometimes) and more to the net :rolleyes:

but just come and play! you'll never be better if you give up...

wateva
May 9th, 2004, 07:36 AM
deleted.

xin_hui
May 9th, 2004, 07:43 AM
relax! wateva! he prob didnt do it deliberately! u can ask the moderator to delete his post if u want....dun get so angry.....harmony~!

wateva
May 9th, 2004, 07:51 AM
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Grice
May 9th, 2004, 08:01 AM
lax lax wateva... i think he gave ur number cos u're always the one who gets in touch wif newbies (like me n New), you were the one who contacted us. :D
and it probably didn't occur to je_ne that it was dangerous posting ur number.
cool down k :cool:

wateva
May 9th, 2004, 08:04 AM
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New
May 9th, 2004, 08:05 AM
yah no point being upset,wateva and besides everyone can see his number now! ;)

wateva
May 9th, 2004, 08:16 AM
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Grice
May 9th, 2004, 08:20 AM
okok... it's jus an overlook on his part. he also dun wan u to encounter any unnecessary trouble..
just an overlook

wateva
May 9th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Due to the delirious nature of the poster, this post has been DELETED

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 09:12 AM
my post edited.
sorry sorry, i didn't realise the quote included your hp#.
apologies for all this.
:hug:

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 09:16 AM
terribly hot day...!
cannot tahan...

xin_hui
May 9th, 2004, 09:22 AM
cool down...:)

spyro
May 9th, 2004, 09:37 AM
Kasiannnn deh lo...HOT in here too :o

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 09:57 AM
janice: yeap! downed a tub of frozen yoghurt! and iced green tea!
still so hot! so lethargic!
went down to IKEA earlier for some items to brighten up my room a little.


:wavey: spyro

xin_hui
May 9th, 2004, 10:12 AM
u guys know my real name...but i dunno yours!

care to share?:D

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 10:20 AM
:p

chris

gorecki
May 9th, 2004, 10:23 AM
u guys know my real name...but i dunno yours!

care to share?:D
you into swimming as well?
like in you compete in swim meets?

xin_hui
May 9th, 2004, 10:36 AM
you into swimming as well?
like in you compete in swim meets?
hi chris!:wavey:
i'm a sports couch potato....i think that explains everything;)
i watch a lot of swimming......esp local swimmers

Grice
May 10th, 2004, 04:05 AM
Hi Chris n Janice :wavey
:lol

sirius21
May 10th, 2004, 05:45 AM
i'm getting steamed alive again today...mmm...... IKEA.... hahah... swedish meatballs... cheap hotdogs..... MAGAZINE BOOTH!!!!!!!!! with TENNIS MAGS!!!!!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
May 10th, 2004, 05:57 AM
Due to the delirious nature of the poster, this post has been DELETED
:crazy:

xin_hui
May 10th, 2004, 09:39 AM
i'm getting steamed alive again today...mmm...... IKEA.... hahah... swedish meatballs... cheap hotdogs..... MAGAZINE BOOTH!!!!!!!!! with TENNIS MAGS!!!!!
what mag did u buy? tennis or australian tennis mag?