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grmbl
Apr 21st, 2004, 09:52 PM
Tell me... :p

CanadianGuy
Apr 21st, 2004, 09:52 PM
Way too early, but other than Venus replacing Sugiyama, I dont see any large movements

Whatzup
Apr 21st, 2004, 09:56 PM
1. Justine Henin-Hardenne
2. Serena Williams
3. Kim Clijsters
4. Lindsay Davenport
5. Venus Williams
6. Amelie Mauresmo
7. Anastasia Myskina
8. Vera Zvonareva
9. Svetlana Kuznetsova
10. Elena Dementieva

7~LV3
Apr 21st, 2004, 10:17 PM
1. Venus Williams
2. Serena Williams
3. Kim Clijsters
4. Justine Henin-Hardenne
5. Lindsay Davenport
6. Anastasia Myskina
7. Amelie Mauresmo
8. Jennifer Capriati
9. Svetlana Kuznetsova
10. Elena Dementieva

jonny84
Apr 21st, 2004, 10:49 PM
To be realistic - JHH has far too many ranking points between her and Amelie - and is likely to defend a hell a lot of them so I see her at the top until the end of 2004.
Kim will remain where she is with the Wimbledon title in her pocket and Serena will go back up to No.3. as she will come RU to Wimbledon and at the US (losing to JHH).

1. Justine Henin-Hardenne
2. Kim Clijsters
3. Serena Williams

Anastasia will reach No.4. after a French Open SF and Wimbledon and US QFs as well as the Moscow title (Tier 1). Lindsay will be at No.5. after winning the Canadian Open and San Diego (both Tier 1s) - however she will only go as far as the Quarters at the slams.

4. Anastasia Myskina
5. Lindsay Davenport

Amelie is at six - injured and unable to regain points won in the 3rd and 4th quarter of the year. Nadia will be at six - she will win the titles in Sopot, Copenhagen and Linz after deciding to play Tier iii and ivs - to be top seeded and to win them.

6. Amelie Mauresmo
7. Nadia Petrova

Venus remerges in at No.8. - a good showing taking the Italian Masters and Philidelphia. Vera Z is at 9 - she wins at Quebec City and at Pilot Pen Tennis tournaments. While at 10 Svetlana Kuznetsova who got to three more finals but no championship title

8. Venus Williams
9. Vera Zvonareva
10. Svetlana Kuznetsova

Ai slips out of the Top10 but manages to win the Tier III Japan Open - as does Jenny unable to defend her tournament results from last year - her better results include 4Ra at the US Open.

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2004, 10:52 PM
1. Mirjana Lucic
2. Anna Kournikova
3. Monica Seles
4. Jelena Dokic
5. Barbara Schett
6. Vera Zvonareva
7. Serena
8. Venus
9. Chrissy Henin-Hardenne
10. Pam Shriver

Jakeev
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:19 PM
depending on injuries of course:

1. S. Williams 2. Henin-Hardenne 3. Davenport 4. V. Williams 5. Clijsters 6. Mauresmo 7. Capriati 8. Myskina 9. Petrova 10. Sharapova/Dementieva/Kuznetsova/Rubin/Zvonareva.

Unless Ai Sugiyama steps it up I don't see her in the top 15.

cometz9
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:20 PM
1. Venus
2. Serena
3. JHH
4. Kimmie
5. Jennifer
6. Lindsay
7. Amelie
8. Myskina
9. Nadia
10. Sveta/Masha

Dokicfan17
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:31 PM
1. Serena
2. Davenport
3. Henin Hardenne
4. Clisjters
5. Venus
6. Myskina
7. Mauresmo
8. Petrova
9.Dementieva
10. Dokic/ Zvonareva/ Martinez

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:38 PM
1. Clijsters
2. JHH
3. Serena
4. Venus
5. Mauresmo
6. Davenport
7. Myskina
8. Dementieva
9. Capriati
10. Petrova

VRULES
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:45 PM
I don't see a player catching Henin in the near future, unless she bombs and someone wins the remaining 3 slams and most of the tournies she plays (Ya hear me Venus;) ) SO here are mine

1. Justine Henin Hardenne
2. Serena Williams
3. or 4. or 5. Kim Clijsters (I think she might miss a lot of the year:sad: )
4. or 5. Lindsay Davenport
5. or 3. Venus Williams, But I think she could be higher and will be once 2005 starts, but she could go on another 2000 runs, in which i would put her at 3.
6. Amelie Mauresmo (She won't play more than 16 tournies this year, which is a shame)
7.-10. can be any combination of players
Myskina
Kusnetsova
Petrova
Zvonareva (sp)
And I think Sharapova will move to around 11-15 by years end. I think she'll get to the quarters at Wimby, and US Open and make a 4th round at FO.

I think Justine will probably Win FO, if she is healthy, if not I would say Venus or Serena (I know I am biased)
Wimbledon sorry but Venus rules, She should at least make the finals again, and hopefully would win. Although I think Lindsay could make a run to the SF, FInal and could win, but she would need luck.
However at the US Open it could be a bunch of people: Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Justine or Kim.

For my Fav Vee if she gets it fully back:

I think Venus will win Warsaw, SF or F in Berlin, QF or maybe SF at FO, Win or F wimby, Win of F Stanford depending who is playing, not play LA, win Acura, Silver at olympics maybe be gold, SF or F at USO (she has never not reached the SF remember), and SF at Moscow if she plays, win Zurich and then could SF or F or win at the season ender.

lee station
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:48 PM
:eek: :lol:

Nan Cu
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:57 PM
Lindsay will be at No.5. after winning the Canadian Open and San Diego (both Tier 1s) - however she will only go as far as the Quarters at the slams.


San Diego is not a Tier I tournament.

Knizzle
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:59 PM
San Diego is not a Tier I tournament.
It is this year, but I don't see LD beating Venus and Serena out for the title. ;)

Andrew.
Apr 21st, 2004, 11:59 PM
1. Justine (I really don't see Kim taking it from her, and she is really the unly one who could)
2. Kim (She'll skip the French but win her first slam later in the year, and defend her YEC title.)
3. Lindsay (Lindsay will make the SF of the remaining slams, but pick up big points during the Fall Indoor season, where she has nothing to defend, and be the runner up at the YEC.)
4. Serena (Finals at US Open. Steady semis and finals during the year. Her big comeback still to come in 2005.)
5. Mykina (Strong showings at all the remaining slams and captures some indoor titles.)
6. Amelie (The rankings slide starts on clay where she will have trouble to defend her big points, but she will rebound with a good showing at Wimby. But, her summer will be dismal and she will have a hard time defending her indoor points.)
7. Petrova (She'll do well at the slams and have steady showing all year, causing a few big upsets along the way.)
8. Dementieva (Steady all year. Nothing spectacular.)
9. Venus (Not great results until Wimbly, where she will make the semis. A great summer, getting to a few finals and capturing a title, she'll break into the top 10, but will have a poor indoor season and be upset early at the YEC.)
10. Zvonareva (She will have a big win again at RG and reach the semis there, but will not do well on grass, or the hardcourts. But indoors will help her break into the top 10, and she should win a Bali or Shanghai type tournament.

Notable outs: Capriati will only make the Round of 16 at a slam, and will end the year just in the top 15. Ai will be ranked around 12, not having any good results until summer. Chanda will be floating around somewhere in the top 20, but will be hurting when her Madrid, Eastbourne, Bali and Shanghai points come off.

Others: Mary Pierce will be top 20, making the quarterfinals of RG and Round of 16 at US Open. Seles will make a successful return, and make it to the QF of the US Open, before announcing her retirement at the end of 2004.

LindsayRocks89
Apr 22nd, 2004, 12:01 AM
1.Justine
2.Serena
3.Lindsay
4.Kim
5.Venus
6.Amelie
7.Myskina
8.Jenn
9.Dementiva
10.Nadia

#1 Lindsay
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:08 AM
justine
serena
lindsay
kim
amelie
anastasia
venus
nadia
elena d
jennifer

Stephieva
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:12 AM
me thinks

1. justine
2. kim
3. rena
4. linds
5. momo
6. vee
7. ana
8. lena d. http://wtaworld.com/images/smilies/hearts.gif
9. jenn
10.nadia

UDiTY
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:25 AM
1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Justine
4. Kim
5. Amelie
6. Anastasia or Nadia(one will fall out of the top 10, and won will have a great year.)
7. Lindsay
8. Vera
9. Svetlana
10. Maria S.:eek:

Justine and Kim will have problems defending all of their points this year. They will struggle with injuries along with Venus & Serena. And V&S will play alot and boost their rankings at the end of the year. Jennifer will fall out of the top 15, and someone besides the top 4 will win a GS.:p

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:38 AM
1 - Henin-Hardenne
2 - Clijsters
3 - Davenport
4 - S.Williams
5 - Myskina
6 - Mauresmo
7 - V.Williams
8 - Kuznetsova
9 - Zvonareva
10 - Petrova

Andrew.
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:47 AM
Venus can't make it to anything above #3. And to make 3, she would have to win almost everything for the rest of the year.

Knizzle
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:51 AM
Venus can't make it to anything above #3. And to make 3, she would have to win almost everything for the rest of the year.
This is not true.

Andrew.
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:53 AM
This is not true.
It is. Venus would have to win virtually everything she played to get to #3. Do the math.

Rolling-Thunder
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:06 AM
Considering that Venus only has points from three tournaments to defend for the rest of the season: Warsaw, French and Wimbledon, I am sure it is safe to say she can zoom up the rankings , provided she remains reasonably healthy and competitive. A restored, enthusiastic and determined Venus during the Summer has been a hallmark of her career. For several years she has been the Queen of the hard courts bar none! Methinks, this year will be a repeat of that history.

The same can be said for Serena, who only has points from three tournaments to defend for the rest of the season: Italian, French and Wimbledon. Post-Wimbledon, watch out!

Knizzle
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:10 AM
It is. Venus would have to win virtually everything she played to get to #3. Do the math.
Apparently you've already done it, so can you share it with us please. ;)

Infiniti2001
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:17 AM
Considering that Venus only has points from three tournaments to defend for the rest of the season: Warsaw, French and Wimbledon, I am sure it is safe to say she can zoom up the rankings , provided she remains reasonably healthy and competitive. A restored, enthusiastic and determined Venus during the Summer has been a hallmark of her career. For several years she has been the Queen of the hard courts bar none! Methinks, this year will be a repeat of that history.

The same can be said for Serena, who only has points from three tournaments to defend for the rest of the season: Italian, French and Wimbledon. Post-Wimbledon, watch out!

Exactly!!! Some people make bold statements without actually looking at players records. Meanwhile I can't help notice loveyoulindsay's obsession with Venus-- he can't tell the forest for the trees :rolleyes:

Jericho
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:20 AM
The top four by the end of the year will consist of both belgians and both williams

BTW, assuming Venus and Serena play tournaments after Wimbledon, that alone will bring everyone else's ranking down as well as adding more points to V&S's ranks

Nan Cu
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:27 AM
It is this year, but I don't see LD beating Venus and Serena out for the title. ;)
Gasp. OMG. Did they demote the Moscow event?

Andrew.
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:29 AM
Exactly!!! Some people make bold statements without actually looking at players records. Meanwhile I can't help notice loveyoulindsay's obsession with Venus-- he can't tell the forest for the trees :rolleyes:
I'm so obsessed with her. Especially when I said that she could only make it up to #3! :eek: Wow, I'm sure showing some very unhealthy signs. *Yawns.* Notice I actually complimented Venus in my previous post about Year End Rankings. So before you start talking about people's "obsessions" why don't you actually read their posts. Thanks.

Knizzle
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:37 AM
Points from now through the rest of the year:

Mauresmo: 2731 (13 tournaments)
Davenport: 1481 (8 tournaments)
Serena: 1786 (3 tournaments)
Venus: 1125 (3 tournaments)

Davenport looks like the most likely candidate to keep either sister from rising to the #3 spot. She will need to improve her GS performances and be able to defeat one of the big four or else she is destined to fall out of the top 4. Mauresmo has potential to ward off the sisters if she has a big Wimbledon where she has no points to defend. The sisters have 3 tournies each to defend with 2 being slams. Based on their past performances it's not unlikely that they would be in the finals of Wimbledon again. Venus has a great opportunity in Berlin where she has no points and RG where she has about 130 points. After Wimby, it's all gravy for the sisters. They will probably pick up at least 2 titles apiece in the US Open series. Olympics is not decided, but both are likely to be there. Then US Open should be a windfall for them because they have met in 2 consecutive finals the last 2 they played in and took the other 2 before that. It's looks like they will easily give Davy and Momo a run for their money for the #3 and #4 spots.

VRULES
Apr 22nd, 2004, 03:27 AM
By the way my bold statements if anyone notice where if Venus gets fully back which would be 2000 form in which sorry, but only serena could compete with. Lindsay was better in 2000 than now. She may be fitter now, however it is obvious her returns are not as amazing and she doesn't trouble the big names WS, and belgians like she used to trouble Hingis and Venus. Justine I think will always be the best clay courter, and a decent hard courter, but look at the records, give the sisters a fast surface and they can wipe her, as she can do to them on clay. Look at Serena at 2003 Wimby, Justine was the same player she is now.

I think was all need to remember, most of use (rational people) don't know what is going to happen, or really believe everything they say will happen. It is biased and wishful thinking, just like my post. However last time I wished for something like this I got 2000 so I am just trying to help histroy repeat itself.

Chunchun
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:50 AM
1. Serena
2. Justine HENIN
3. Venus
4. Kim CLIJSTERS
5. Lindsi DAVENPORT
6. Amelie MAURESMO
7. Elena DEMENTIEVA
8. Anastasia MYSKINA
9. Nadia PETROVA
10. Vera ZVONAREVA
11. Svetlana Kuznetsova
12. J-CAP
13. Marai SHARAPOVA
14. Jelena Dokic
15. SFE
16. Patty SCHNYDER
17. Paola SUAREZ

henree
Apr 22nd, 2004, 07:11 AM
1. Kim Clijsters (really think she will take wimbledon beating Serena in the final. If she faces Venus in the final Venus will win.)
2. Justine Henin (Don't think she will be able to defend all her slams with the sisters in the draws, plus I don't think she will be back at 100 % in time to defend Rolang Garros, therefore she wil loose a truck load of points)
3. Serena Williams ( she will easily take Us open and year end championships)
4. Lindsy Davenport (quarters and semis at slams, same as last year)
5. Venus (Could definitely win wimbledon, and make it to the final of the Us open)
6. Myskina (Same as Lindsay)
7. Capriati (Same as Lindsay)
8. Mauresmo (I predict she will never win a slam, too much of a pushover)
9. Kuznetsova (just a guess)
10. Dementiavia (If she is lucky)

shap_half
Apr 22nd, 2004, 07:42 AM
1. Justine Henin - there's really noone outside of Kim who can catch her as long as she's healthy. But Kim couldn't do it last year with just Justine in the picture. How will she do it now?

2. Lindsay Davenport - with new found confidence and fitness, I think she can take it further to the top.

3. Kim Clijsters - I think Kim will begin her decline later this year.

4. Serena Williams

5. Amelie Mauresmo

6. Anastasia Myskina

7. Venus Williams

8. Vera Zvonareva

9. Nadia Petrova

10. Jennifer Capriati

oddkayla
Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:34 AM
I dont know about the others but Venus will be in the Top 5.

cooolconchita
Apr 22nd, 2004, 12:04 PM
Davenport

JHH

Serena

Kim

Nastya

Elena

Nadia

Venus

Jenn

Conchi - number 14 :hearts:

justine&coria
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:31 PM
1. Justine (unless she doesn't play)
2. Serena
3/4. Kim/Davenport
5. Venus
6. Mauresmo
7. Capriati
8. Myskina
9. Zvonareva
10. Dementieva

Cam'ron Giles
Apr 22nd, 2004, 01:39 PM
To all y'all fortune tellers, Ms. Cleo called, she wants her job back...:p

oddkayla
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:07 PM
Justine will end the year at number 1. All others who could compete for the top spot have points to defend, and they will struggle to defend them. Adding on is out of the question. Venus will end in the top 5, Serena too. Kim will finish outside the top 3. Mauresmo outside the top 5, Lindsay in the top 5.

Top 5

Justine

The rest are in no particular order:

Venus
Serena
Lindsay
Kim

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 22nd, 2004, 03:39 PM
1. Serena (she has points coming her way for 6 months)
2. Venus (same)
3. Justine
4. Lindsay
5. Kim
6. Nadia
7. Jennifer
8. Elena D.
9. Monica
10. Myskina

tommyk75
Apr 22nd, 2004, 03:47 PM
1. Justine
2. Serena
3. Amelie
4. Lindsay
5. Kim
6. Myskina.
7. Dementieva
8. Venus
9. Svetlana K.
10. Petrova

I predict Jennifer, Ai, and Chanda will all fall considerably. And I predict Maria Sharapova will be boiling right under the Top 10 and then explode into the Top 7 next year. (Sure, what do I know, but this is fun! Watch out, Kreskin!)

tennnisfannn
Apr 22nd, 2004, 04:28 PM
Most people seem confident that justine will maintain the huge lead she has now. I doubt it, first she is already struggling healthwise and has missed a feew of the tournys she won last year, her 18th tourny don't measure up.
Last year this time serena was way ahead of everyone bar Venus and she didn't lose the no.1 when she skipped the last 6 mths of the year, she lost it soon after Wimbledon when she still had 3 slams to her name. With the way the ranking works, justine could do exactly what she did last year and still lose the no.1 ranking (i doubt she will anyway coz there won't be those 400 pts she picked up beating serena and kim as the no.1s, and kim a few more times in the other tournys).
Serena won miami this year like she did last year and even dropped in rankings behind Elena who didn't make the finals last year, alot of that will be happening in the summer with venus and serena picking up pts.
The only difference in the top ten I expect by the year's end is venus and Svetlana in the top ten. As for who will be no. 1 we can only judge by RG depending on who is healthy.

CJ07
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:48 PM
I don't know about the actual rankings, but the CHASE rankings will be as follows.

1. Venus Williams-I Feel DejaVu Coming
2. Serena Williams-Same, but not till Wimbledon
3. Lindsay Davenport-She's Healthy
4. Justine-Henin-Hardenne-She's Not
5. Anastasia Myskina-Consistent, and Russian
6. Amelie Mauresmo-See JHH
7. Kim Clijsters -See JHH
8. Svetlana Kuznetsova-She's Russian
9. Nadia Petrova-See SK
10. Elena Dementieva-See SK

LucasArg
Apr 22nd, 2004, 08:10 PM
1-Justine Henin H.
2-Serena Williams
3-Venus Williams
4-Kim Clijsters
5-Lindsay Davenport
6-Nadia Petrova
7-Amelie Mauresmo
8-Anastacia Myskina
9-Elena Dementieva
10-Paola Suarez