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fan911
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Capriati has only 14 career titles. :eek:
Pierce has only 15 career titles. :eek:

It seems that those 2 have been playing forever, yet Justine & Kim already have more titles in just a few years. :eek: Even Conchita Martinez has 32 titles which is way more then Capriati & Pierce.

Capriati should at least have 25 titles and Pierce at least 20 in my opinion.

anabel
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:54 PM
They got some important ones in those few through

Declan
Apr 19th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Capriati has only 14 career titles. :eek:
Pierce has only 15 career titles. :eek:

It seems that those 2 have been playing forever, yet Justine & Kim already have more titles in just a few years. :eek: Even Conchita Martinez has 32 titles which is way more then Capriati & Pierce.

Capriati should at least have 25 titles and Pierce at least 20 in my opinion.

Well, I'm pretty sure that Mary would have continued adding to her total at her historical rate of between 1 and 4 titles a year if it weren't for injury; remember, she was World No.4 when she became injured in June 2000, and played very sporadically over the next two-and-a-half seasons. Even last year, her first 'full' (almost) season since 1999 Mary still played far fewer tournaments than most of her peers (with the obvious exceptions of the injured Willliams sisters and a few age-resticted players.)

Dr.Phil
Apr 19th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Jenn Played Very Well in the beg. of 2001 (Ausopen and French Open)

!<blocparty>!
Apr 19th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Jen kinda has hot streaks

Kart
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:41 AM
They got some important ones in those few through
I agree.

ace4lleykim
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Jen only has 14 titles? :eek: I think she should've more than that, atleast 20-25.

CanadianGuy
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:54 AM
in last 3 years, Jen won 4 only. She seems to choke a lot. And before that she was still doing her comeback. She did get a title at 14, but after she starts playing in the big leagues. She stopped earning titles the way Martina Hingis does. Mary Pierce could not sustain her efforts because of her injuries. Before her injury, she is just not as good as Steffi or Martina both of whom enter tournaments week in and week out. So I'm guesing that's why. But they are not really in the leagues of Martina Hingis and people like that anyways.

UDiTY
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:23 AM
Jenn had a few hot tournaments...that was all. It's weird that you can win 3 grand slams, and only 11 other titles in a 13 year career!!!!:confused:

I am surprised Mary doesn't have more, whenever she was healthy between '94-'00 she was a top player.

:p

faboozadoo15
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:29 AM
it is pretty strange, especially for jen... she really picked her moments...

Joseosu19
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:31 AM
Jennifer wasn't much of a contender for late ninties, so its not that surprising. Also, in the early-mid 90's when both Jen and Mary were getting some of their titles, more top players played more often then now.

faboozadoo15
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:39 AM
SINGLES Winner (14 WTA Tour): 2003 - New Haven; 2002 - Australian Open; 2001 - Australian Open, Roland Garros, Charleston; 2000 - Luxembourg; 1999 - Strasbourg, Quebec City; 1993 - Sydney; 1992 - San Diego, Olympics; 1991 - San Diego, Canadian Open; 1990 - Puerto Rico.

those are kinda crazy... i can't imagine playing a whole year winning 1 title, and that title being the australian open. or winning only 3 tournaments in the "best year" and have 2 of them be slams.
it also looks like she's got some pretty damn weak tournaments in there as well. i don't remember lux, stras, quebec, or peurto rico being big events.

brickhousesupporter
Apr 20th, 2004, 03:01 AM
Jen was never a dominant player, even in her so called dominant years. She was a very consistant player, and you could count on her getting to the latter rounds of tournaments, however only winning 3 titles in your most dominant year, albeit 2 were grandslams, does not seem dominant to me.

spencercarlos
Apr 20th, 2004, 03:20 AM
They got some important ones in those few through
Have to agree with Borja on this one.......

Quality is superior to quantity, at least for me when comparing players, and this is exactly what is happening here.

fan911
Apr 20th, 2004, 03:22 AM
Jen was never a dominant player, even in her so called dominant years. She was a very consistant player, and you could count on her getting to the latter rounds of tournaments, however only winning 3 titles in your most dominant year, albeit 2 were grandslams, does not seem dominant to me.

But Conchita or Sabatini or Novotna were not as dominating, and even though they have only 1 slam each, they have tons more career titles.

spencercarlos
Apr 20th, 2004, 03:57 AM
But Conchita or Sabatini or Novotna were not as dominating, and even though they have only 1 slam each, they have tons more career titles.
Sabatini won 5 titles in 91 and 5 more titles in 92, with 6 Tier I wins included (Amelia Island 91,92, VS of Florida 91, Sydney 92 were the non Tier I won).

fan911
Apr 20th, 2004, 04:13 AM
Sabatini won 5 titles in 91 and 5 more titles in 92, with 6 Tier I wins included (Amelia Island 91,92, VS of Florida 91, Sydney 92 were the non Tier I won).

But that's the point. Capriati should have also won more titles. She's been no.1, has won more slams, etc. So it's surprising that she hasn't won as many titles, especially in her best years like 2001 & 2002. It's weird that she's able to win slams but not the smaller titles. She should have also won 5 titles a year for a no.1 player and winner of 2 slams a year. That's why the stat is shocking. Many other lesser players have managed to win many more smaller titles, yet Capriati doesn't.

bandabou
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:19 AM
Just plain shocking....Jen really should have done better. Those numbers arenīt really no.1-worthy imo...

tennnisfannn
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:33 AM
I alos find venus and serena's titles a bit too few for their ability but then again they play so few.

irma
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:45 AM
Jennifer wasn't much of a contender for late ninties, so its not that surprising. Also, in the early-mid 90's when both Jen and Mary were getting some of their titles, more top players played more often then now.
that's not true (outside when you count the injuries but steffi was a parttime player from 94 on too). in the early/middle nineties the topplayers played an average 15/16 tournaments. these days they play an average 20 tournaments.
they definitely play more

and Steffi playing week in and week out
she only reached the 16 tournaments once otherwise she never passed the 15. That's hardly playing week in and out.

Mr_Molik
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:46 AM
this is mens, but pat rafter only got about 10 titles in his career:eek: and 2 of them were us opens
hasnt henrieta nagyova got about 10 :tape: