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sarza
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:06 PM
hi i was just wondering if anyones met any players who were rude offcourt. i have met a few players most being fairly welcoming and even those who didnt really fancy a chat at least had the curtosy to at least smile all apart from chanda rubin now im sorry to any rubin fans who i may offend but she is the rudest peson i have ever met in my life, and unfortunatly i wasnt the only person to notice and comment on this.so i was just wondering if any other people have noticed this not just with chanda but any players?

Dr.Phil
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:11 PM
PETROVA is VERY NICE to her fans.

Blazedboy
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:13 PM
What was so rude about Chanda? She's one of the nicest most down to earth players on tour. SHe does tons of Charity work. I would be interested to hear your experience with her. Is it possible you met her on a bad day...

Rocketta
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:43 PM
gosh you know some fans were telling me a Chanda horror story the other day as well. :sad:

Lapin
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:45 PM
hi i was just wondering if anyones met any players who were rude offcourt. i have met a few players most being fairly welcoming and even those who didnt really fancy a chat at least had the curtosy to at least smile all apart from chanda rubin now im sorry to any rubin fans who i may offend but she is the rudest peson i have ever met in my life, and unfortunatly i wasnt the only person to notice and comment on this.so i was just wondering if any other people have noticed this not just with chanda but any players?
Hmm interesting! I saw Chanda at Eastbourne, 2002 I think, doing an autograph signing session; she was smiling at everyone and seemed really nice. At Wimbledon a week or so later, I was with a friend and we saw Chanda practising on an outside court as she had a match later that day. After a few minutes she and Benny Sims finished, came off court, walked along right in front of us, and we decided to wish Chanda 'good luck' for her match later. Literally she was inches from us, Benny was the other side of her and no-one else was around.... and she completely ignored us :eek: ; we were a bit shocked!! We'd stood back so as not to get in her way, we weren't taking a photo or asking for her autograph, we just wanted to wish her good luck for her match.....:confused: I know players don't have to speak to the public, but she just pretended we weren't there. Maybe we saw her on a 'bad day' too, (actually, it probably was, because she lost the match later that day..! ;) ) Sad, 'cause I'd always liked her up until then....

faboozadoo15
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:47 PM
chanda was rude to some of her fans at the uso last year from what i observed.
she was already knocked out of the singles (obviously) and she was done practicing with hantuchova when a couple of her fans called her name when she was going by.
and she snapped back "ain't got the time, and I don't wanna chat."
i was shocked, especially after hearing from everyone how nice she was and how much stuff she does for the betterment of the tour and stuff like that.
must have been a bad day :confused:

Pureracket
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:50 PM
Well, I've met Chanda once, and she was very nice nice to me.


. . . .but you know what's funny? CHANDA has always been used for people who say, "I'm not racist because I don't like Venus and Serena. I like Chanda." What I've always felt and truly believed is that, given the opportunity, Chanda would show that she is much ornerier than either of the Sisters. . ..LOL!!!!!

griffin
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:52 PM
My guess would be that Chanda, like the rest of us, has good days and bad - because I've also heard people who've met her say she was very kind and gracious. Same with Jen C and Venus, I"ve heard stories (from people I trust not to make shit up) of them being unnecessarily rude and unpleasant and I've heard stories about them being really patient and accomodating.

I'm sure even Amelie has been slightly less than perfect at least once.

Pureracket
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:53 PM
My guess would be that Chanda, like the rest of us, has good days and bad - because I've also heard people who've met her say she was very kind and gracious. Same with Jen C and Venus, I"ve heard stories (from people I trust not to make shit up) of them being unnecessarily rude and unpleasant and I've heard stories about them being really patient and accomodating.

I'm sure even Amelie has been slightly less than perfect at least once.Nah, never Amelie.;)

ace4lleykim
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:54 PM
I know that Kim will not be on this list. :D:hearts: She's very very nice and kind to her fans.

ace4lleykim
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Amelie looks very nice too.

Rocketta
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:57 PM
yeah that's pretty much the story I heard from the fans in Charleston too about Chanda. What the lady said was that they saw her dressed up cause she was getting the player who makes the difference award. Well the lady said to her hey Chanda you are looking good or something and she said Chanda acted like they didn't even exist. Her husband is an autograph hound and he said she wasn't friendly when he went and got an autograph but he's pretty aggressive there's no telling when he was asking for an autograph.

Venus does not like to sign many autographs...no more than 4 in any one spot, I didn't see how many she signed outside the stadium.. Venus is over the autograph thing. ;)

Serena signs a lot of autographs..and it's still not enough. After their Sunday practice session Serena signed and signed. She signed all the way back to the club house and finally she said no more. This one little kid bust out crying cause he didn't get one. :bigcry: His older brother had said he waited all day. Remember they were out there for over two hours by then. You felt so bad for the little boy but then again they would never get to live if they had to sign autographs all day and night.

sarza
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:57 PM
im glad im not the only one then haha.lapin my story is fairly similar to yours saw her at a signing and apparently she was smiling etc with everyone then i saw her when noone was around and said hello wished her luck and that sort of thing she just looked at benny sims tutted gave me a filthy look and the pair of them walked off i couldnt believe me and my dad just looked at eachother gobsmacked especially seeing as i had heard she was meant to be a friendly decent person, but im sorry that to me is mannerless, other people at this tourniment also have said the same, oh well nevermind she just has one less fan, which is why i have turned my support to the ever so lovely polite and friendly laura granville

griffin
Apr 19th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Nah, never Amelie.;)

Well, of course not, but I don't want people thinking I'm biased :angel:

I've heard Nat Tauziat was, uh, unpredictable as well - a former Sanex Boardie said he wished her good luck (in French, even) when he saw her in New Haven and she sneered and rolled her eyes.

faboozadoo15
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:02 PM
I've heard Nat Tauziat was, uh, unpredictable as well - a former Sanex Boardie said he wished her good luck (in French, even) when he saw her in New Haven and she sneered and rolled her eyes.
maybe his accent wasn't good...


im still waiting for a rude monica story-- other than that she didn't sign my ball. or rude sugiyama would be interesting.

Blazedboy
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:09 PM
I heard Laura Granville is a bitch, I remember reading on this board one time that she was quite snotty and immature

ace4lleykim
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Yea she looks like one to me. :shrug:

sarza
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:24 PM
I heard Laura Granville is a bitch, I remember reading on this board one time that she was quite snotty and immature

i didnt find her to be any of those things both times ive met her i found her to be a very charming sweet person although maybe a little aggitated when on court and losing haha. this is where peoples experiances differ and we can only go on what we have seen ourselves,very intresting though!!!

LiliaLee-Frazier
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:24 PM
I have NEVER heard any negative storys about Amy Frazier :) Although..i kind of wonder..how she was reacting on court against Patt las tweek ???? I really don't think it would bother her :D

sarza
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:26 PM
i agree with you coz before i met her i thought she looked like a bitch too but honestly i promise she is far from it

AaronJoyB
Apr 19th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Halard Decugis was very rude one time in Rome 1995 or 1996...

Sportfan
Apr 19th, 2004, 09:38 PM
I am disappointed to hear some of the things being said about Chanda not the biggest fan of her game but I have always wished her well considering how many injuries she has had to endure during her career but the rudeness described has definitely made me reconsider I know tennis players aren't perfect and have bad days just like everyone else but her attitude is inexcusable..

Pamela Shriver
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:05 PM
I'm great to my fans, so generous. I give my autograph out in droves..... Funny no one takes it....

faboozadoo15
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:21 PM
i never got one pam...

ptkten
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:37 PM
I don't know, Chanda seems to have more friends than most players on tour so I really don't think it's her personality. She doesn't like the attention judging from how she shies away from the public eye so maybe not answering is her way of dealing with it. I know when someone on the street wants me to sign up for something, even if it's a good cause, I just walk by and ignore them.

Sportfan
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:53 PM
PTKTEN I would agree with you I too have walked past peole trying to get me to sign up for things or giving out flyers but no one was asking her to sign up for something or even go out of her way it was just her fans wishing her good luck or someone telling her she looked nice a simple thank you would have been enough if she was busy or was having a bad day and wasn't in the mood to talk. I really don't understand what her problem was but I think the situation could have been handled a lot better it was just plain rude.

Gallofa
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:58 PM
I think Chanda is one of the sweetest persons on tour. What she has done for kids and for tennis in general is amazing. Maybe she is just shy and doesn't like talking to strangers, or she is hard of hearing ;). But claiming that someone is rude simply because they didn't acknowledge you is unfair. We are strangers to these players. Just because we see them all the time on tv and feel like they are familiar to us does not mean that they are our friends or that they should be friendly to us. By approaching someone you put them on the defensive. See what Chanda has done when she is the one doing the approaching. She is founding tournaments for children! I am sure rude or uncaring is the last thing she is.

Sonf@
Apr 19th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Well, griffin is right, Amelie was rude to the fans at least once. She was kind of rude in Oviedo the last year :angel:

arcus
Apr 19th, 2004, 11:19 PM
The tennis tour is not some kind of pinata, where if you hit the ball hard enough, money miraculously comes falling into your lap. The money, and there is plenty for the top players, COMES FROM THE FANS, either directly or indirectly.


Well, I know that dealing with the public can be tough, and you can't feel like being sunshine and light every day, but I think (and its just a point of view:) ) that the players should act like any other professionals who provide a service and deal with the public. Most are fantastic, and even if the demands of the fans on a given day are too much, they can say it politely.


So players, be polite and stay nice, remember WE'RE paying your salary!!!!


:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Maybe the tour should be like apprentice, and if you get out of line the donald could FIRE you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rocketta
Apr 19th, 2004, 11:33 PM
I don't know maybe it's a southern thing but if someone calls me by name then I acknowledge them....with a look. I'm in the south where you have to speak to everyone so I have little sympathy...:lol: When we first moved down here from Brooklyn. I was standing outside and a man drove by and he waved at me just as hard. Well I looked at him like he was crazy because when we were in NY I was taught not to acknowledge strangers...Well my mother came home that night and blessed me out. That man went right to her job and told her he spoke and I didn't speak back. So I got my first lesson in Southern customs...you speak to everybody....Now I speak to everybody....I'm driving down a rural road in some strange town and an old man is at his mail box and you speak....you wave at everyone. So for Chanda not to acknowledge these people in SC especially since she is from Louisiana was really a slight to them. All she had to do was nod her head to say hello or a quick smile... Southerns do not believe in not speaking....that is like the worst thing you could do is not speak to an older southern person...:lol:

Elisse
Apr 19th, 2004, 11:47 PM
hahahaha...Chanda seems to have a lot of 'bad days'! :p

I was actually with Lapin when we wished Chanda 'good luck' and she totally ignored us! It wasn't that we was asking for autographs from her or that she didn't hear, she was just being plain rude! :rolleyes: I can understand that sometimes players don't want to talk...but it doesn't hurt them to say 'thanks' or even just smile if someone says something nice to them! That's just being polite!!

Another player who I have seen being rude to fans was Venus at Wimbledon - actually I have seen her be rude to fans on about 4 occasions, and all of them were children! :sad: One little boy asked her for her autograph and she turned round to him and said 'Leave me alone - I'm not signing any today!!' She said it in such a rude and disrespectful way, I was really shocked when I heard her say it!!! :eek: But, as I said, I have heard her say similar on another 3 occasions! :rolleyes:

sarza
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:13 AM
i dont think you can really use the term having a bad day. i mean we all have them tennis playa or not, and even when i have the worse day possible if someone approaches me i will smile and respond its just theway i was brought up

faboozadoo15
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:17 AM
i dont think you can really use the term having a bad day. i mean we all have them tennis playa or not, and even when i have the worse day possible if someone approaches me i will smile and respond its just theway i was brought up
yea, me too.
but i can't imagine walking through a crowd with everyone calling things out to me.
i'd like to think i'd be able to aknowledge them all or smile, but i may get nervous or something and just try to get out as qucikly as possible just like chanda.

but when they snap back with something rude in tone, that's kinda different.

ico4498
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:33 AM
you've gottah take bulletin board news with a grain of salt. easy enough to post supposed personal experiences w/o proof ... i'm sure all posters here are totally honest, but who really knows.

Celeste
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:38 AM
I think you have to know the context of the "snub" and that no one is perfect, and tennis players are far from perfect. I didn't watch the Jennifer/Petra match, but I got over to the stadium when it ended. A ton of little kids were waiting outside the back where the players come out. Jennifer came out, and looked bad, really down, and she just sort of put her head down and said "sorry" and got on the cart and left. She looked like she was about to start crying. After her cart left, everyone started to trash her and saying that it wasn't these "little kid's fault" that she lost and everyone started hating on her. Hello, she just lost. I didn't think anything of it!! Then Petra left and everyone wanted her autograph and she totally blew everyone off and was into her cellphone. So, is someone going to say Jennifer is mean to fans? She just lost and really did look on the verge of tears, you have to give the woman a break! I watched Venus and Richard warm up before the final and Venus when she was done totally ignored a ton of little kids, but I've heard you don't approach a player before a final. Venus didn't act bitchy, she just didn't sign. So is she now a bitch? These chicks are here to do a job, you have to respect that. I saw Dally and Kostanic play on an outside court. They arrived alone, with no security, and separately. I guess I could have approached one of them, I was right there, but you have to pick and choose when you approach someone.

pav
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:46 AM
Haven't heard of My fav. player the angelic Vera Z. being bad to fans, but She has been known to be a teeny bit rude to Her racquets at times!! :)

FanDeJen
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:18 AM
Chanda is a really rude person.. Last year at the nasdaq, she was practicing with JenCap. After the practice I asked for an autograph and she said she didn´t have time!!! Please!!!
Jennifer signs lots of autographs but rarely makes eye contact.

DeDe4925
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:27 AM
yeah that's pretty much the story I heard from the fans in Charleston too about Chanda. What the lady said was that they saw her dressed up cause she was getting the player who makes the difference award. Well the lady said to her hey Chanda you are looking good or something and she said Chanda acted like they didn't even exist. Her husband is an autograph hound and he said she wasn't friendly when he went and got an autograph but he's pretty aggressive there's no telling when he was asking for an autograph.

Venus does not like to sign many autographs...no more than 4 in any one spot, I didn't see how many she signed outside the stadium.. Venus is over the autograph thing. ;)

Serena signs a lot of autographs..and it's still not enough. After their Sunday practice session Serena signed and signed. She signed all the way back to the club house and finally she said no more. This one little kid bust out crying cause he didn't get one. :bigcry: His older brother had said he waited all day. Remember they were out there for over two hours by then. You felt so bad for the little boy but then again they would never get to live if they had to sign autographs all day and night.
Some adult should have given him theirs. :lol: Sheesh.

brunof
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:34 AM
Jessica Lehnhoff grunted at me. :p

DeDe4925
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:34 AM
I don't know maybe it's a southern thing but if someone calls me by name then I acknowledge them....with a look. I'm in the south where you have to speak to everyone so I have little sympathy...:lol: When we first moved down here from Brooklyn. I was standing outside and a man drove by and he waved at me just as hard. Well I looked at him like he was crazy because when we were in NY I was taught not to acknowledge strangers...Well my mother came home that night and blessed me out. That man went right to her job and told her he spoke and I didn't speak back. So I got my first lesson in Southern customs...you speak to everybody....Now I speak to everybody....I'm driving down a rural road in some strange town and an old man is at his mail box and you speak....you wave at everyone. So for Chanda not to acknowledge these people in SC especially since she is from Louisiana was really a slight to them. All she had to do was nod her head to say hello or a quick smile... Southerns do not believe in not speaking....that is like the worst thing you could do is not speak to an older southern person...:lol:
Yep, that's true. Especially down here in Texas. I was always taught, it doesn't cost anything to speak.

DeDe4925
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:35 AM
hahahaha...Chanda seems to have a lot of 'bad days'! :p

I was actually with Lapin when we wished Chanda 'good luck' and she totally ignored us! It wasn't that we was asking for autographs from her or that she didn't hear, she was just being plain rude! :rolleyes: I can understand that sometimes players don't want to talk...but it doesn't hurt them to say 'thanks' or even just smile if someone says something nice to them! That's just being polite!!

Another player who I have seen being rude to fans was Venus at Wimbledon - actually I have seen her be rude to fans on about 4 occasions, and all of them were children! :sad: One little boy asked her for her autograph and she turned round to him and said 'Leave me alone - I'm not signing any today!!' She said it in such a rude and disrespectful way, I was really shocked when I heard her say it!!! :eek: But, as I said, I have heard her say similar on another 3 occasions! :rolleyes:
Okay, I just plain don't believe that. :eek: That was a whopper.

¤CharlDa¤
Apr 20th, 2004, 02:11 AM
JCAP, Majoli and Poutchek were very rude!

slice
Apr 20th, 2004, 05:25 AM
monica was completely rude to me in sydney... she had just finished her practise session and i went to get her autograf... i was on her right and heaps of ppl were on her left... neways, i walked with her 4 like 100 metres asking 4 her autograf... she signed every1else's but mine :fiery:


then there is the case of lina krasnoroutskaya-stupid bitch.... one day at syd, my mate was a really big dementieva fan and so went and asked her 4 her autograf when there was literally no1 else round... then lina k just steps in front of elena and says "no"... i hate to tell u lina k that firstly, ur hair makes u look like a hedgehog, and secondly that my mate wasnt interested in YOUR autograf :rolleyes:

next is pamela shriver: me and some of my mates had just been walking around in the blistering heat 4 2 hours and so found some shade to sit under... next thing we no, we see this huge giraffe looking-thing about to walk past us next to liz smylie... then pam had the audacity to enquire as to whether or not we had put suncream on, we sed we had, then she sed sumthing along the liens of "obviously not enuf" and walked off with liz like a couple of cocky teenagers... so when they went on 2 the court, i yelled out some obscenity to pam and ran off, in which i nearly pushed conchita over... lol, so embarrasing but conchi was laughing :hearts:

pam, lina k, elena d :fiery:


mary pierce and hingis on the other hand, were extremely nice 2 me, espcially mary :cool: she even waited till i got my pen outta my bag 4 an autograf :D

Rothes
Apr 20th, 2004, 05:32 AM
Rita Grande, watched her play in the Qualifiers at Rome one season and in the Main Draw another, Rita after loosing I think it was to Pistolesi (not sure) yelled at this Child going pass, letting out her anger, and 3 or 4 Teenage Boys wanting her Autograph, literally telled them to "piss off"

Best way to make Rita loose on Court is Steer at her while she is playing, she is observant and knows, the more you steer, the more she steers back in anger and frustration, and then watch her game dwindle, So everytime at the Rome Masters I always like to steer at her, just to put her of on the wrong foot ;)

Jericho
Apr 20th, 2004, 05:46 AM
Some players are open to the public and some people are very reserved and like being left alone (which i can relate) and at the same time sometimes they are in good moods and sometimes they're in not so great moods...they are just like us, we've all had our good and bad moments

Rocketta
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:12 AM
Well I don't approach players so it will be hard for me to get my bubble busted. :p

I will tell you who are sweethearts...Eleni Daniilidou. She smiled so sweetly at me and I was just sitting there watching her practice and the ball rolled near me in the stadium and she came over to pick it up looked me in the face and smiled as sweetly as she could. :hearts: She knew I was a big fan. ;)

Oh and Dally Randriantefy. Every time I took a picture of her and she saw me taking it she smiled for me. :aparty:

WtaTour4Ever
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:23 AM
I def. think it depends on when you catch them. I was at the FCC and I watched Jcap practice, I was expecting her to be rude to the fans but she signed quite a few autographs and even took pictures. I tried to get one,and she walked away, but I wasn't upset b/c I was on the tail end, so I think she felt like she had done enough....which in all fairness she had imho.

azza
Apr 20th, 2004, 07:05 AM
Todd Larkham :eek: he swears alot :o

Vincent
Apr 20th, 2004, 07:11 AM
Well while everyone saying Chanda is a rude person, I personally think she is pretty nice.
Chanda came to Hong Kong in the chinese new year, remember the Hong Kong Watson's Ladies Challenge, there are tons of people who are waiting for her autographg, like 100 :) and everyone said THANK YOU to her, I don't know Hong Kong people are that polite before, she smiled and sayed thank you to everyone, it's EVERYONE! I was impressed by her sweet manner, and I saw Elena Dementieva coming out from the changing room, she was surrounded by a few securities, I was yelling her name and many people were doing that too, she looked back and smiled to everyone! :) I saw Maria Sharapova too, but she seems quite arrogant to me though.:(

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 20th, 2004, 07:12 AM
Suarez came across as rude.

Jakeev
Apr 20th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Didn't we just have this conversation in another thread recently? Nice or mean folks we cannot expect the players to be friendly 100% of the time.

And I said it that thread and I will say it here, perhaps some of you are not telling the whole story.

Fans can be equally rude, obsessive and pushy.......

VeraNuVirgosFan
Apr 20th, 2004, 08:44 AM
...remember the Hong Kong Watson's Ladies Challenge...

...I saw Maria Sharapova too, but she seems quite arrogant to me though.(
Are you talking about "the Hong Kong Watson's Ladies Challenge" which was held between 8-10 January this year?

If it is so, I was there, too.

Can you please tell me why Sharapova "seemed quite arrogant" to you? (As her big fan, I'm very interested to know about this, thanks in advance.)

VeraNuVirgosFan
Apr 20th, 2004, 08:49 AM
...And I said it that thread and I will say it here, perhaps some of you are not telling the whole story.

Fans can be equally rude, obsessive and pushy.......

A very good point.

Brian Stewart
Apr 20th, 2004, 09:41 AM
I think some of you are mistaken about Chanda. What you are taking for "rudeness" may actually be something else; fear. For those of you who didn't already know, Chanda has received death threats over the course of her career. And remember when last year's Eastbourne final was delayed because of a bomb threat? Well, that wasn't the only threat that was made. They also made a threat of physical harm against one of the finalists. Hint: it wasn't Conchita.

So it wouldn't be a surprise if Chanda was uncomfortable around strangers in an uncontrolled environment. Sure, 99% of these types of threats turn out to be so much hot air. But you can never know which one won't be. And while 99.999% of the fans mean no harm whatsoever, there's no way of knowing which one might be malevolent.

I offer this not as an excuse, but as an explanation. Could she have handled some situations a bit better, and perhaps been a bit more friendly? Possibly. But understand that there are often things going on that the general public doesn't know about. So if you run into a player that you heard was friendly, and s/he was less than so with you, there may be more to it than rudeness, or mood swings. Unless a player is rude to everyone on a consistent basis and by all accounts, then there could be more to the story. And from what I've read in these threads, most of the "rude" players are not consistently so.

And in the interest of balancing the scales a bit, I can think of 3 people (myself included) that have only had pleasant dealings with Chanda.

The Crow
Apr 20th, 2004, 09:51 AM
I want my tennis players to play good tennis. I don't care if they're friendly to their 'fans' or not....

Besides if you want famous people to wave at you, go and see the queen ;)

Mr_Molik
Apr 20th, 2004, 10:13 AM
JCAP, Majoli and Poutchek were very rude!

poutchek :fiery: so rude and arrogant

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 20th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Jidkova nearly threw a racket that hit my mate Troy this year :(

Mr_Molik
Apr 20th, 2004, 10:17 AM
Jidkova nearly threw a racket that hit my mate Troy this year :(

jidkova and poutchek playing doubles together and hanging round together is even worse

oddkayla
Apr 20th, 2004, 10:29 AM
It would really help not to approach players after practice, before their matches because they are trying to focus, and stopping to chat to fans, and sign autographs disturbs focus. The year Venus won Wimbledon for the first time, one of the things Evert said she did differently was that she was really focused. She said that in other years, Venus would be all over the grounds enjoying the atmosphere and interacting with fans. She said she had always thought that was bad for players to do because they did not focus on their matches.

The other thing is that to minimise danger to players they really should not be in one spot for a long time. That way crazy weirdos dont have much time around them. And there are some real sickos following the WTA tour around. These girls have to deal with real issues of stalkers and other dangers.

Give them a break. They should also live. And no matter how nice and everything you are, no one wants other people in their private space all the time. Players give a lot up, lets accord them a little more respect.

Vincent
Apr 20th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Are you talking about "the Hong Kong Watson's Ladies Challenge" which was held between 8-10 January this year?

If it is so, I was there, too.

Can you please tell me why Sharapova "seemed quite arrogant" to you? (As her big fan, I'm very interested to know about this, thanks in advance.)well I don't know, it's just a feeling. I have a friend who is a big fan of Elena Dementieva, I think she likes Maria too, you know she wanted her autograph, my friend wanted her to write her name on the magazine, but she denied in a not so polite way.I know this is a stupid reaon, but well....But she is a good player, she plays very good, who cares.:)

Stephieva
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:41 PM
then there is the case of lina krasnoroutskaya-stupid bitch.... one day at syd, my mate was a really big dementieva fan and so went and asked her 4 her autograf when there was literally no1 else round... then lina k just steps in front of elena and says "no"... i hate to tell u lina k that firstly, ur hair makes u look like a hedgehog, and secondly that my mate wasnt interested in YOUR autograf :rolleyes:what did lena d. do then? :confused: lena must walk away with lina k. cos' lena can't embarrass her friend by saying 'no they like me, not you.'
lina k. :smash: but she is cute tho.:p

bailey
Apr 20th, 2004, 12:51 PM
I was working at the Swisscom Challenge for some years. So I've seen all the players from day 1 till the very end.

CHANDA RUBIN was looking at some Rado-Watches one day and she was like a little child. It was really cute. She was like very shy if she could try these on etc...

LINDSAY was also always nice, I nearly ran into her once at the door and she was just smiling.

SABINE APPELMANS; I also nearly ran into her (at the same door...) (Am I running to fast?) Anyway; I looked at her and began to laugh and said sorry. She was laughing with me, so it was cute

JENNIFER was always nice too. When she was watching others matches and people came running for having an autograph, she was always like "shh!" but gave the autographs.

Strange was, that the UNKNOWN PLAYERS were those, who wouldn't give autographs and were just looking bad tempered, like: I'm cool, I'm sexy, look at me! But don't waste my time...

By the way, I have to tell you this: It's not about rude, but
ANNA KOURNIKOVA was working a lot, she was the only one who made situps and stuff next to the court. Anyway, she was exercising, and her mother stood on the other side of the net, in a furcoat, just holding the raquet. And Anna was playing non-stop on Alla's Raquet. I was pretty amazed and it was really fun to watch. The mother in the coat, just standing there, doing nothing but holding a raquet...

Sportfan
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:08 PM
OddKyla okay so when would be a good time to ask for an autograph without taking up their personal time. I disagree with Chris Evert because Wimbledon had always been an excellent tournament for Venus before her back to back wins it was just a matter of time before she had a break through given her record there since tournaments like that and the US Open played to her strengths. I completely agree with you that WTA players need to be careful and not take risks that would endanger their lives but we aren't talking about situations where any reasonable person would feel threatened. No one was talking about intruding on a players private space yes they most certainly have a right to live privately and not be bothered but that doesn't excuse them from common courtesy imo there are ways to say that right now is not an appropriate time for them to talk or do something without resorting to rudeness. I don't see the major effort required in saying a simple thank you when a fan wishes you good luck in your match or if they compliment you in passing on how you look or played nothing more is required if you don't feel like talking or don't have the time for it. Also I don't care if you are Mother Teresa 99% of the time there is no excuse for snapping at a child after they have waited 2 hrs or more for your autograph and it would take you a few seconds to give it or say that you are sorry you aren't signing any more autographs today and/or that they could try at another time when you would be more amenable to giving them an autograph. I think athlete's are excused all too easily for behaviour that I would not accept from a child or another adult when they are old enough to know better respect works both ways and maybe it is just me but I try to live by the rule that you treat others the way you would like to be treated. Of course there are two sides to every story and it may have been a bad time or they might have had their reasons whether they are good or not.

Rollo
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Great post Brian:wavey:

Sportfan
Apr 20th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Thanks bailey for those stories.

Rocketta
Apr 20th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Well I think this was rude I heard this 2nd hand from the lady sitting next to me..

After Ruana Pascual and Suarez beat Black/Stubbs, they didn't sign autographs and Renee Stubbs apparently said after they left to the kids, "see kids remember that next time when they play!" ....:retard:

I mean wtf! That is low and talking about your co-worker behind their back and a little sour grapes if you ask me and frankly rude.

When they won the tournament the girls were so shy they didn't even want to give acceptance speeches. I don't think they speak english too well.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Apr 20th, 2004, 04:24 PM
well I don't know, it's just a feeling. I have a friend who is a big fan of Elena Dementieva, I think she likes Maria too, you know she wanted her autograph, my friend wanted her to write her name on the magazine, but she denied in a not so polite way. I know this is a stupid reason, but well....But she is a good player, she plays very good, who cares.
Thank you very much for telling me this.

There is only one thing I want to say: at that Hong Kong exhibition tournament, Sharapova's autograph was one of the top sought-after autographs (Ferrero's was #1, then Venus', Federer's...), so there was no way Masha could manage to sign for all the fans who had asked for it.

"my friend wanted her to write her name on the magazine" - What do you mean "write her name"? I don't quite understand it. Thanks again.

arcus
Apr 20th, 2004, 06:44 PM
I think athlete's are excused all too easily for behaviour that I would not accept from a child or another adult when they are old enough to know better. respect works both ways and maybe it is just me but I try to live by the rule that you treat others the way you would like to be treated.

agreed....... :)

daniela86
Apr 20th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Justine Hénin is quite rude! My friend met her nearly years ago (in 1999)It was a "kid day";some childrens very enthousiastic (among him my friend) could play with her there!That day,Hénin was late one hour!And when she finally came,she seems very angry and :( .Obviously,she wasn't keen to play with them!She played 10 minutes after protesting to Carlos,her coatch that she was hungry and tired and that she must eat.She came back to her hotel and she was back to finish with kids after 30 minutes,always annoying!
She hadn't give one smile to kid throughout the whole day !

Kuti Kis&Monica
Apr 20th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Don't hesitate to ask to Rita Kuti Kis :), she'll always sign ( i generally say to some kids in the stadium that she's a tennis player, so then they come to ask her, that makes her happy :) )

DeDe4925
Apr 21st, 2004, 04:51 AM
OddKyla okay so when would be a good time to ask for an autograph without taking up their personal time. I disagree with Chris Evert because Wimbledon had always been an excellent tournament for Venus before her back to back wins it was just a matter of time before she had a break through given her record there since tournaments like that and the US Open played to her strengths. I completely agree with you that WTA players need to be careful and not take risks that would endanger their lives but we aren't talking about situations where any reasonable person would feel threatened. No one was talking about intruding on a players private space yes they most certainly have a right to live privately and not be bothered but that doesn't excuse them from common courtesy imo there are ways to say that right now is not an appropriate time for them to talk or do something without resorting to rudeness. I don't see the major effort required in saying a simple thank you when a fan wishes you good luck in your match or if they compliment you in passing on how you look or played nothing more is required if you don't feel like talking or don't have the time for it. Also I don't care if you are Mother Teresa 99% of the time there is no excuse for snapping at a child after they have waited 2 hrs or more for your autograph and it would take you a few seconds to give it or say that you are sorry you aren't signing any more autographs today and/or that they could try at another time when you would be more amenable to giving them an autograph. I think athlete's are excused all too easily for behaviour that I would not accept from a child or another adult when they are old enough to know better respect works both ways and maybe it is just me but I try to live by the rule that you treat others the way you would like to be treated. Of course there are two sides to every story and it may have been a bad time or they might have had their reasons whether they are good or not.
And some people posting here are trolls and you can't believe everything you read.

DeDe4925
Apr 21st, 2004, 04:52 AM
Well I think this was rude I heard this 2nd hand from the lady sitting next to me..

After Ruana Pascual and Suarez beat Black/Stubbs, they didn't sign autographs and Renee Stubbs apparently said after they left to the kids, "see kids remember that next time when they play!" ....:retard:

I mean wtf! That is low and talking about your co-worker behind their back and a little sour grapes if you ask me and frankly rude.

When they won the tournament the girls were so shy they didn't even want to give acceptance speeches. I don't think they speak english too well.
Except, I believe everything Rocketta says, ;)

Vincent
Apr 21st, 2004, 05:04 AM
Thank you very much for telling me this.

There is only one thing I want to say: at that Hong Kong exhibition tournament, Sharapova's autograph was one of the top sought-after autographs (Ferrero's was #1, then Venus', Federer's...), so there was no way Masha could manage to sign for all the fans who had asked for it.

"my friend wanted her to write her name on the magazine" - What do you mean "write her name"? I don't quite understand it. Thanks again.Write her name "MARIA SHARAPOVA" on that magazine you can buy at the entrance.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Apr 21st, 2004, 05:19 AM
Write her name "MARIA SHARAPOVA" on that magazine you can buy at the entrance.
Thank you very much again.

Did Sharapova sign autograph for your friend?

Alvarillo
Apr 21st, 2004, 08:49 AM
Barbara Schett was really really rude at Madrid 2003......
Chanda is one of the nicest players i've erver met. Also Maria Sanchez-Lorenzo. Sandrine Testud & Kim Clijsters are nice players off court

Rocketta
Apr 21st, 2004, 03:30 PM
Except, I believe everything Rocketta says, ;)
Thanks for clearing that up. :lol:

:wavey:

CJ1
Apr 21st, 2004, 06:16 PM
Rita Grande, watched her play in the Qualifiers at Rome one season and in the Main Draw another, Rita after loosing I think it was to Pistolesi (not sure) yelled at this Child going pass, letting out her anger, and 3 or 4 Teenage Boys wanting her Autograph, literally telled them to "piss off"

Best way to make Rita loose on Court is Steer at her while she is playing, she is observant and knows, the more you steer, the more she steers back in anger and frustration, and then watch her game dwindle, So everytime at the Rome Masters I always like to steer at her, just to put her of on the wrong foot ;)
Rita is a really sweet person, you clearly must have upset her because believe me she would go out of her way to be nice to fans. I was in Rome in 2001 when a party of at least 30 school kids appeared around the practice courts, Rita didn't leave until every kids had a signed autograph.
She's just passionate about her tennis and wears her heart on her sleeve during a match.
I speak from experience because the kindness she has shown towards me the past 4 years since I've been running the website has been unbelievable. :angel:

daniela86
Apr 21st, 2004, 07:03 PM
The Belgians Elke Clijsters,Kirsten Flipkens and Kim Clijsters are very nice persons and the swiss Myriam Casanova also:yeah: :yeah:

Tatiana Panova
Apr 21st, 2004, 08:07 PM
I have only met a few, but from what I have seen.

At first impressions rather rude:

Sylvia Farina Elia - no eye contact, really miserable as if she were the biggest star in the world!

Really really nice:

Anne Kremer - what happened to her? She was so nice and said she was really enjoying the tournament.

Arantxa - made eye contact and smiled!

Amanda Ceotzer - ditto.

Mary Pierce - well I went up to her and asked and she just shrugged her shoulders and said "I have to practise" and I was kind of like , well it will only take 2 seconds. She then showed me all the balls in her hand and shrugged, so at first I was not sure about her cos she was a bit aloof. But then the next day I saw her walk past me, I called out her name and she stopped and I asked again and she said sure. She waited for me to get my pen out and was really nice and smiling. We even had a conversation about who she had played and if she thought she was playing well. She just said: "better". Ok - she was slightly aloof , but generally very nice.

faboozadoo15
Apr 21st, 2004, 09:34 PM
lol, believe it or not but i think todd martin is rude. he was done practicing and didn't have a match that day, and this woman who had crafted a todd martina shirt somehow was waiting with a ball and she was the only one, and he said no, but he stood around and talked to some guy about golf for a few minutes. the woman cried, yes, she fucking cried over not getting a todd martin autograph. i didn't want one, but i just observed from near bc i was curious how tall he really was. he looked really tall on court.

meanwhile, alex gets off the next court over and signs a ton of autographs and was really great with all the little kids, laughing with them and asking them how long they had been playing tennis and stuff like that. i was shocked... and bc of such a small thing like that,i bet she made herself like 10 fans (one of them kinda me, i mean now, i don't smile when she loses anymore...)

jenn signs like a manian, maniac... and never looks up, but i was appreciative bc my little brother was able to get one and he thought that was cool. and she was also at our hotel, and we got to meet her dad and her once again there. her dad was pacing and ice cold from the looks of it, and we were headed right past him and said "hey, good luck to jennifer" and he smiled real big and said thanks. then jenn came down and sat on the couch next to ours, she was waiting for her ride (the reason her dad was angry) and we (bro and i) were waiting for my sister. he started a little convo with her with like good luck today and that continued for a few minutes and she was cool and super relaxed.

faboozadoo15
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:22 AM
how many incidents does it take to get the feeling that someone is rude?
even though i agree with you, some of the things in here do sound rude on any level. and this is a site where people talk about everything else about players, so why not their personalities. and dont you think it's strange that several people from around the world will have similar stories about players and how they act-- i find it interesting, personally.

faboozadoo15
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:41 AM
well sure, but people are going to believe what they want anyway. there are liard everywhere and if people haven't learned to be selective then there's nothing anyone can do. i generally disregard someone's story about a player who they have always hated, but i read it anyway...

cometz9
Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:49 AM
I would be happy if i actually see a player even if they are rude

dansnewbeg
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:04 AM
I'm great to my fans, so generous. I give my autograph out in droves..... Funny no one takes it....

Ok I admit it, I'm intimidated by your beauty!

LiliaLee-Frazier
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:05 AM
chanda was rude to some of her fans at the uso last year from what i observed.
she was already knocked out of the singles (obviously) and she was done practicing with hantuchova when a couple of her fans called her name when she was going by.
and she snapped back
i was shocked, especially after hearing from everyone how nice she was and how much stuff she does for the betterment of the tour and stuff like that.
must have been a bad day :confused:
"ain't got the time, and I don't wanna chat." << Well doesn't she just sound as sweet as apple pie...you make her sound so uneducated ..did she really say that in those EXACT words ?? :lol:

Vass22
Apr 22nd, 2004, 05:23 AM
*Taking a deep breathe*

Like it has been mentionned, we act and feel like we personnaly know WTA players as we follow their results and watched them on tv for years.

But we are total stranger to them. People do not realize it, but they sometimes approch players the wrong way, by being too familiar.

I can think of many reasons why a player would be rude a particular day: 1) She's very concentrated and is in her bubble 2) For security reason. 3) Having a bad day / personnal problems. 4) Sometimes players just don't feel like interacting with people. That happens. 5) Shyness. 6) Players don't expect sometimes that someone would interact with them, so they simply do not react. 7) Every week they have to deal with kids wanting autographs, people talking to them, there are occasions they don't want to be bothered.

All players are humans, so sometimes they'll be rude, sometimes they'll be nice. Why is it so hard to accept or understand? Why does it matter? And why labelling someone as rude just for a couple of isolated incidents?

Beside I don't understand why people feel the need to interact with players...? Unless you're a fan, there's not a really a point. Yes, us, spectators, is the reason why they make money, but we pay them to see them playing tennis, not interacting with them.

I was heading here to write the same thing. I know Many players that are the nicest and then "rude". Myskina, Capriati, Dokic, Venus and others are all on the list. I'm not going to say what they did (similar stuff to that described above, but I saw a background of some these and understand).
I just want to add: why do the players "NEED" to talk to us in the first place? If someone comes up to you on the street it doesn't mean you'll talk to him/her. Even in your good mood, " don't spoil it", so to say. All this is magnified in celebrities' case. How many of you expect Julia roberts to talk to you when you meet her on the street?

PS: don't some people consider it bad luck if someone tells them "good luck" before a match? I think I heared of such players, and to be honest I didn't like it too, when I played my 100$ tournaments.