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Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:25 PM
Germany will take part with Corinna May!!!!
Her song "I can't live without music" is a dance-music song, btw I like it!!! ;)

http://www.eurosong.de/_images/02ger.jpg

Monica_Rules
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:27 PM
I have no idea what Britains song will be the competition hasn;t been yet!:confused:

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:31 PM
Beware of the Belgian guy!!
It's a big guy (not tall) with white hair. His name is Sergio and the song Sister. I hope we get some points!:rolleyes:

http://www.planetinternet.be/nieuws/images/sergioklein.jpg

Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:45 PM
Corinna May

I Can’t Live Without Music

Intro

You’re my song in the morning
You’re the rhythm of my heartbeat at night
And the sound of love I hear in your voice
Keeps on touching me deep inside
You are the air that I breathe
And the gentle tune of whispering trees
You’re the only melody
That’s in my soul and in my mind
All the time

Refrain:

I can’t live without music
Only you keep me going along
I can’t live without music
And the power that’s deep in your song
You’re the one and only thing
I couldn’t do without
Makes me wanna sing and dance and shout
We can’t live without music
We can’t live without music
It’s a rainbow in the night
Turns darkness into light
It’s everything we really need
We can’t live without music
And if ever we lose it
That’s when everybody just everybody
starts getting the blues
We can’t live without music
Cos it’s freedom to me
And to you

So let the music touch your heart
In times when men are worlds apart
cos only love can heal the dream
That’s hidden in our souls
And hand in hand we’ll walk along
We’ll be united by a peaceful song
And we’ll live
All together
We can’t live without music
We can’t live without music
We can’t live without music
I can’t live without music
I can’t live without music
And anybody just anybody is asking me why
Music makes me feel like flying
Gives me hope when I’m a-crying
I believe without it I would die

Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:54 PM
You can download her song:

http://www.eurosong.net/years/2002/2002de_fr.htm

please tell me, so you like it???

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 05:59 PM
The twenty years old girl Sabine François will sing for France. We don' t know for the moment the name of the song, but we now, that it will be a " ballad " ( The same tempo of " Je n' ai que mon âme " who finished fourth last year ) wrote by the excellent french singer Patrick Bruel, and composed bye Rick Alisson, who is Lara Fabian' s s composer.

Go France !!!!!

Swiss song will be sing in french this year too. The name of the song is " Le jardin extraordinnaire " ( or a thing like that ! lol ).

Mazza
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Monica_Rules
I have no idea what Britains song will be the competition hasn;t been yet!:confused:

Apparently Jessica Garlick who made the final 10 of Pop Idol will be singing for Great Britian for the Eurovision but I don't know if that has been confirmed

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:01 PM
It's a catchy song, a real EUROsong.

I'm really interested in the French song actually, the French entry is called "Il Faut Du Temps", sung by 20 year-old Sandrine Françoise.

Brαm
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:01 PM
Yep, the Belgian song is called "Sister", sung by Sergio & The Ladies. :bounce:

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:06 PM
From www.eurosong.net (http://www.eurosong.net)


UNITED KINGDOM (BBC)

DISQUALIFICATION SCANDAL:
(from the BBC)

With regret it has been announced that "Never In A Million Years" performed by Zee has been disqualified from the final of "A Song For Europe 2002" and will be replaced by "Every Step Of The Way" performed by Level Best.

The disqualified song called Never In A Million Years was composed by - Mark Jiggens and Zee Asha - and performed by Zee. NIMY broke Rule 11 of the ASFE rules which states that 'Song entries must not be published or commercially released as a recording before SFE 2002'. Never In A Million years was released in June 2001 on a dance compilation album by Interplay/Flort Records in Hungary and sold 2,400 copies.

Replacing Zee is Every Step Of The Way, composed by Graham Kearns and Howard New and performed by Level Best. Level Best came fifth in the Radio 2 vote.

Zee is a former backing singer with Culture Club and can currently be seen in the West End production of Taboo. The composers and performer did not know that song had already been released in Hungary



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Eight UK finalists have been whittled down to four, by a televote on BBC Radio 2.

These four songs will be performed live on the Song For Europe programme, to be held on Sunday 3rd March.

The finalists are listed below - winning 4 songs highlighted:
(Click to download the MP3)

Title Artist Songwriters
Lovestruck Honey Trap Ben Copland, Yvonne John Lewis, Nicky Cooke, Phil Dane
Never In A Million Years Zee Mark Jiggens, Zee Asha
When You're Around Paula O'Neil Ben Copland, Martin Bushell
Fade Away Pulse Stuart Hanna, Alistair Griffin
I Give In Surf 'n' Turf Jonathan & Peter Maitland, Jackie Collins
Every Step Of The Way Level Best Graham Kearns, Howard New
D J Romeo Tricia Penrose Bea Eden, Simon Stirling, James Gordon
Come Back Jessica Garlick Martyn Baylay

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:08 PM
Noodles, please, can you tell me if you' ve ever heard this song. Do you know wher i can " download " it ?

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:09 PM
* This song means " french entry " " Il faut du temps ", sorry ;) .

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:12 PM
Mary Cherry, I don't know, sorry, I hoped someone else would know. I haven't heard it yet.

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:15 PM
Okay Noodles, thank you :) , I have ever heard the belgian " entry " and I' m sorry, but it' s " awfull " ! lol ;) .

WHERE' S SANDRA KIM ????? lol ;).

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:17 PM
I think this song is better then the Sandra Kim song, but maybe Axelle Red should sing a nice song for us.

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:20 PM
I hope for Belgium that Axelle Red will do that a day. In thaht case, it' s sure, you' ll win.

I think that Axelle red is my favourite singer ;) .

gmt
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:25 PM
Aaaargh! Our Eurovision virus season is back :eek:
Corinna May has a beautiful voice, if a bit stiff at times. I haven't heard her entry for 2002, but her previous attempts in German ESC finals were quite impressive in a way, even though they were not the most original songs ever :)

Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:27 PM
Has someone listen to Corinna's song???

Mercury Rising
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:31 PM
I listened to it, and as I said it's a catchy song, but nothing special. But that's no reason she can't win it, the Danish song was like 100 times worse.

Nicoleke
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:34 PM
And what about " Il faut du temps " ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .

Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:35 PM
Some picture of German ESC final:

Position - Name - first election/second election

1st Corinna May (19,5% / 41,1%)

-a dance-floor song

I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MUSIC

http://www.eurovisionsongcontest.de/news/ve1.jpg

2nd Joy Fleming & Jambalaya (14,0% / 32,5%)

JOY TO THE WORLD

-a jazz song

http://www.eurovisionsongcontest.de/news/ve2.jpg


3rd Normal Generation? (12,0% / 26,4%)

HOLD ON

-a song about jesus and god

http://www.eurovisionsongcontest.de/news/ve3.jpg

Kris
Feb 23rd, 2002, 06:38 PM
thx Noodles for your comment

Dado
Feb 23rd, 2002, 07:51 PM
Corinna May is really good. She had a lot of chances the past three years, but she had always the smallest PR of her. Guilo Horn, Stefan Raab and Michelle enjoyed the bigger media interess.

anabel
Feb 23rd, 2002, 08:36 PM
Spain will go with Rosa, David Bisbal or David Bustamante, the winners of the TV program "Operación Triunfo". The next 3 weeks we will choose the song which will go to ESC and who will sing it (Rosa David B. or D.Bustamante).

Thanks to "Operación triunfo" ESC is being popular again in Spain.

turt
Feb 23rd, 2002, 09:16 PM
:confused: I thought the Belgian representant was a blind girl :confused:

What happened to her?

BTW I don't think Axelle Red will ever sing at the Eurovision song contest lol :rolleyes: :angel:

matthias
Feb 23rd, 2002, 09:23 PM
the german song is okay, but nothing special

but i´m happy with corinna, it was her 3rd start and now she can finally sing for us at ESC

Princess Fiona
Feb 23rd, 2002, 09:23 PM
aaaah, the Eurovision threads are back :D

Good luck to the GB entrant! I hope it's going to be Jessica Garlick (and I am in no way biased, "at all" ;)). Looking forward to E-night, as always!

matthias
Feb 23rd, 2002, 09:28 PM
I thought the Belgian representant was a blind girl

the german is blind

turt
Feb 23rd, 2002, 09:44 PM
Well at least they won't have to rename the contest: "EuroBlind Song contest" lol :rolleyes: :angel:

matthias
Feb 23rd, 2002, 10:05 PM
the offical ESC website will be launched
friday 1st march 2002

www.eurovision.tv

Mercury Rising
Feb 24th, 2002, 11:49 AM
Turt, the blind girl didn't win. She was a finalist.

And about AR, you're unfortunately right about that:sad:
We have many good artists, but they don't enter a thing like that. The Belgian jury was a farce btw.

gentenaire
Feb 24th, 2002, 11:57 AM
I see The Felly Family was also in the German pre-selections. Thank goodness they didn't win!

The German song sounds like a great Eurovision songcontest song. Corinna May has a great voice.

turt
Feb 24th, 2002, 12:00 PM
What kind of jury was that? Actually I didn't really follow this as it was broadcasted on the Flemish TV... (not that I never watch flemish channels but I just didn't know there was such a contest...)

BTW it can't be worse than 2 years ago, when all the members of I-don't-know-which-sect called the vote phone number in order to vote for that non-talented belgian "singer" (Nathalie Sorce), who provided... 2 points for Belgium at the Eurosong contest :rolleyes: :angel:

tennisfreak
Feb 24th, 2002, 12:04 PM
Tine, I also don´t like the Kelly Family, but I have to admit that their song was great. I think it was the best song at the German pre-selection. :wavey:

Mercury Rising
Feb 24th, 2002, 12:20 PM
It was a jury with actors, mediapeople, wannabe singers. Rocco Granata was there and worse of all Marcel Vanthilt. He was as rude as you can be, and asked the people at home to vote for Sergio 4(?) times during the final.
The winner was known before the final begun IMO. Sergio was only second in one of the three semifinals.
But maybe it will catch on, I don't know.

Kris
Feb 24th, 2002, 12:32 PM
thanks for responds!!!! :D I did not know, that there are so many ESC-fans on wtaworld board

The Last Unicorn
Feb 24th, 2002, 03:50 PM
Did you hear the song of Bernhard Brink and Ireen Sheer?! What the heck was that supposed to be. Her voice is terrible, his voice is aweful, together it was even worse. And the song itself was embarrassing no matter whoever performs it. I couldn't choose if I should laugh or cry.:o

matthias
Feb 24th, 2002, 03:54 PM
you are right

sheer and brink was horrible


:o :o

babsi
Feb 24th, 2002, 04:44 PM
The German song is not going to win, it is not that good to be honest, I much prefer the entry from last year. It is trying to sound too eurovisionary but doesn't get it right, sorry to all Germans.

I haven't listened to any others but I will in the next few weeks and write about each one.

Kris
Feb 24th, 2002, 06:18 PM
thanks a lot babsi!!!! but you did not like our entry :sad: ;)

stevek
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:08 PM
Is it true that the countries who did worst last year will not be allowed enter this year?
If thats true then I guess Ireland won't be in cos I think they did really bad last year.:(

turt
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:15 PM
Well, Belgium did not participate last year because they were the worst country in 2000... So that's definitely true! :p

stevek
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:26 PM
did they get the dreaded "null points" ?

thekimfan
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:28 PM
Nope, in 2000, we received 2 or 3 points from "The Former Republic of Macedonia" (or something like that...);)
But I think that this year, we'll receive much more points
:cool:

matthias
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:30 PM
sorry kris, but i think Babsi is right, we will not win with this song, top7 would be great.

and i hope german don´t win the next few years
i don´t want a ESC moderated by the horrible AXEL BULTHAUPT

Princess Fiona
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by stevek
Is it true that the countries who did worst last year will not be allowed enter this year?
If thats true then I guess Ireland won't be in cos I think they did really bad last year.:(

Yes, Ireland were booted last year, Steve. Sorry!

matthias
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:36 PM
i hope everyone inside this thread will take place at my ESC prediction game

same rules as last year (if anyoune remember)

but i will post a thread 2 or 3 weeks before

Princess Fiona
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by matthias
i hope everyone inside this thread will take place at my ESC prediction game

MEEEEEEE!! :wavey: And I want to do better this year! ;)

stevek
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:53 PM
Well i think we should get an exemption because we have won so many times!
Actually, my claim to fame - a guy who went to my school his dad won the eurovision! Does anyone remember a song called
"the rock and roll kids"?
Probably not because it was a good few years ago when it won.

matthias
Feb 24th, 2002, 09:58 PM
sure i can remember the song rock and roll kids
2 guys, one with a piano and the other with a gitarre, right?

stevek
Feb 24th, 2002, 10:17 PM
matthias, i'm impressed!
the one with the guitar was the one who's son, went to school with me.
Is the eurovision quite popular in germany then?

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 03:24 AM
since Guildo Horn the ESC is popular in germany again,

MS
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:58 AM
I like the German song, but...why on hell is it in English? I like Eurovision because you can hear songs in different languages....

gentenaire
Feb 25th, 2002, 07:11 AM
I liked the different languages as well, but songs in the original simply don't do as well as songs sung in English. When countries were forced to send a song in one of the official languages, countries like UK, Ireland and Malta would always get higher scores than others.

babsi
Feb 25th, 2002, 10:55 AM
All songs are not decided or are not online yet but I have listened to another one today...

Israel

When I was downloading it I saw something about there being a hoax song so I could have listened to that. But going through Sarit Hadad song's I thought this would be something I like as there was lots of dancey stuff and the writer also wrote Diva by Dana International which I confess that I did like.

But what I heard was absolutely terrible it was so fast, I really don't understand how a song be so bad as that.

But I am reserving judgement a little cos I am not 100% sure that is what I heard.

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 01:15 PM
Babsi: where can we download songs?

i haven´t found any song on morpheus

babsi
Feb 25th, 2002, 01:53 PM
matthias, i am getting some of them from the link Kris posted:

http://www.eurosong.net/years/2002/2002de_fr.htm

just click on the song you want and you download the mp3.

some don't have the mp3 there so i just download it from audiogalaxy.

babsi
Feb 25th, 2002, 02:11 PM
Estonia.

Should get some free votes cos it is the home country. Female singer with a strong voice, song called Runaway. It is ok and sounds very eighties. I have no idea what she looks like but if she is good-looking she could pick up a few points. 5/10

babsi
Feb 25th, 2002, 02:13 PM
Just listening to euro winner from 99 take me to your heaven (i love this song even 3 years later) and it is a really good, quality song compared to the ones that I have heard so far.

Does anyone know what happened to Charlotte NIlsson?

babsi
Feb 25th, 2002, 02:26 PM
Last post of the day in this thread lol

Cyprus
I really like this one (a fan of trashy music) but this isn't the kind of song that will win, called Gimme and dancy and has a nice beat to it. The best one by miles that I have heard so far.

The only songs that can win are serious ones, or an abba-esque style (but it has to be high quality)

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 03:44 PM
cyprus can´t win,

cyprus is #1 at the draw, and it has never won the #1

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 03:58 PM
the cyprus song is really trashy

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 04:08 PM
MALTA:
not really good,
it sounds like the music from a soap-opera
but i´m sure few people will love it

malta is #20 on the draw, and maybe this could help to make a good place at the end
but i´m sure malta can not win with this song

Nicoleke
Feb 25th, 2002, 04:56 PM
i hope everyone inside this thread will take place at my ESC prediction game

I finished " second " last year, but due to Michelle, the german singer taht I saw in the " second place ", I lost the " first " place.

I really like this game last year :) .

I hope that France will win this year. Have you all " forget " Natasha Saint - Pier ? She had a " great " success there, she was number # 2 last year in french charts. Now, she " works " with very " popular " singers like Florent Pagny ( Download " Làs bas ", it ( s a great song ! ), Pascal Obispo " You can download " Tu trouveras " ) and Garou. ;) .

aliceb
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:05 PM
What about the Slovenian song - I hear the group are all Transexuals! Well it worked for Dana Int'l............

Elske
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:09 PM
I just listened to the German song, that woman has a good voice but i don't really like the song. It's MUUUUCCHHHHHHHH better than our song though! Urgh i hate that discusting man! :fiery:

matthias
Feb 25th, 2002, 05:43 PM
Mary Cherry:
sorry, i won last year my own game. (i know this isn´t nice) :rolleyes:

Kris
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:11 PM
I played your game, too matthias....but I did not know my place!!!

btw you can visit http://www.eurosong.de this is a great site.

gentenaire
Feb 25th, 2002, 06:12 PM
I think the Malta song sounds pretty good actually.

In any case, all these songs are way better than the Belgian one.

Nicoleke
Feb 26th, 2002, 04:13 PM
I totally agree Tina, I like the song for Malta too, and I think that it can be " high " in the rankings.

Kris
Feb 27th, 2002, 05:12 PM
New comment??

Nicoleke
Feb 28th, 2002, 03:59 PM
Who knows where we can " download " the french song " Il faut du temps " ? ;) . ..... It takes time ! lol ;) .

Cybelle Darkholme
Feb 28th, 2002, 04:09 PM
is this eurovision that same contest where that drag queen from israel won one year? what was her name? and did that count?

matthias
Feb 28th, 2002, 04:15 PM
yes, DIVA won 1998 at birmingham. and sure it count.

it is not a singer competition, the songwriter and composer get the award. but the singer get always more publicity then the songwriter.

and DIVA wasn´t a DRAQ QUEEN, she was formerly a man and changed her sex into female few years ago she won the ESC.

i think 1998 was the one of the craziest (right word :confused: ) ESC ever


tommorow the official page will be launched :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

www.eurovision.tv

Nicoleke
Feb 28th, 2002, 04:24 PM
" Diva " was the name of the song, but the singer is " Dana international ", she won in 1998, I think, when the " contest " took place in Birmingham. ;) .

This year, Fanny represented France with the song " Sentimensonges " and she finished at the 6 th place. ;) .

Cybelle Darkholme
Feb 28th, 2002, 04:26 PM
This sounds like a great contest! The US should be allowed to enter! Its not fair! They should call it World Vision!

oh im going to download this dana international songs, did she cut a cd or was it only for the eurovision contest?

Nicoleke
Feb 28th, 2002, 04:28 PM
No no, she did a " cd single ". She was in the top 40 in France, and she was number # 1 in Israël and in the United Kingdown ;) .

Nicoleke
Feb 28th, 2002, 05:47 PM
Sandrine will sing French song in Tallinn

French music magazine Voici has announced that the French song for Eurovision this year will be performed by French singer Sandrine François. She will sing Il Faut du Temps (It Takes Time) co-written by Patrick Bruel.

The news has been officially confirmed by the official web site of Bruel. The song, which will be sung by the 20 year old French newcomer, will be distributed to radio stations at the start of March. France 3, who will coordinate the French entry announced the writers at the start of the year. The song is written and composed by Rick Allison, Marie Florence Gros and Patrick Bruel. It is expected that the song will be a ballad.


During a post Christmas music programme broadcast by France 3, Patrick Bruel was named as the composer of the 2002 French entry for Eurovision. Whilst Sandrine is a newcomer to the French music scene, she was previously seen a couple of years back when she appeared as a guest on a chat show which discussed the nature of fame. At the time, she was starting out and discussed her hopes for a career as a singer, one thing she mentioned was that she would be keen to enter the Eurovision Song Contest for France, it would appear she now has her wish.

Bruel has been a successful writer and performer in France for some fifteen years. His main successes have come with ballads, his albums are always well received, his concerts sell out.

There is little doubt that the song will be performed at least mainly in French, though it is likely that a verse may be inserted in English following an experiment last year.


http://www.eurosong.org.uk/news/smpans/sandrine.jpg

Good luck girl !!!!!

turt
Feb 28th, 2002, 05:51 PM
Actually, "Dana International" DID record an album!

It's called "The Album" (1998), but I've never listened to it and I don't think I will ever listen to it lol :rolleyes: :angel:

Brαm
Feb 28th, 2002, 06:44 PM
http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/sergio11.jpg

http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/sergio07.jpg

http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/sergio11fin.jpg

Brαm
Feb 28th, 2002, 06:48 PM
http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/sergiothe_ladies04.jpg

http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/marcel-sergio.jpg

http://www.zonien.be/chris_vandenabeele/esc-2002/artiest/foto's/sergio35.jpg

tennisfreak
Feb 28th, 2002, 07:57 PM
Sergio doesn´t seem to be too pleasant :rolleyes:

Princess Fiona
Mar 1st, 2002, 03:10 PM
Those are great pics of the Belgian entry! ;) Thanks!

Nicoleke
Mar 1st, 2002, 04:03 PM
Who eard the french " entry " ? :rolleyes:

matthias
Mar 1st, 2002, 04:58 PM
http://www.eurovision.tv/gfx/artist/artist_france_image.gif

the french singer

matthias
Mar 1st, 2002, 04:59 PM
english vocals for the french song:

'Il fout du temps' ('It takes time')

It takes time
To learn to smile
To learn to grow up
In the middle of a battle



It takes time
To learn to love
To lend your toys
But that's not our problem now



It takes time
So they say… they say!
We speak and write
And war sells...



It takes time
But the deaf still speak
When the dust falls asleep
I pray in the wind



I fought for that
In my voice I clasped
All those words that frighten us
When we don't hear them



I fought for that
In my arms I clasped
All those women who weep

Unseen



It takes time
To hang high
Stunted ideals
That spill blood from our mouths


It takes time
No! We really have to want it!
Mr. Gandhi is dead
Will he be dead for long?



I'll fight for that
Here and now
I don't have time any more
I have only one life in front of me


I'll fight for that
How will I fight
Peace is just a child
Who cannot walk straight


I'm just a little soldier
With no weapon but my voice
But I'll cry out for you
My dove, for you
I'm just a little soldier
Now and down there
But thousands of voices
Will cry out with me



I'll fight for that
Here and now
I can hear the wind rising
But who will stand up
I'll fight for that
How will I fight
They say it takes time
But thousands of voices... will cry out with me

Mercury Rising
Mar 1st, 2002, 08:26 PM
Sergio @ the ladies

'Sister'

Sister, Sister, Sister, Sister

Once upon a time I was looking for a girl like you.
Like the thunder in the night Though the fire's burning so brand new
She was getting so much younger
And she never learned just what to do
That's why I'm telling you...

Chorus
Sister, come on and move your body
Sister, so come on and make my day
I'm in love and I can make it feel this way
That's why I wanna say

Oh yeah, that's how I wanna feel honey

When a boy becomes a man, Guess you better know the chance you'll take
Don't you play your game so fast, 'cos a broken heart's the price you pay
Let me try and make it better
Cos there's so much more that we can do

Chorus
Sister, get it right the first time
Sister, don't you wait another day
I can make you feel this way
That's what I wanna say

Let's make it better
I just can't wait
It's now or never
Don't you walk away
Let's stick together
Night and day
Baby don't you walk away

Chorus

Princess Fiona
Mar 2nd, 2002, 10:53 AM
All these lyrics, thanks! :D Hmm, it looks like it's going to be a struggle deciding who to vote for... ;)

Princess Fiona
Mar 2nd, 2002, 10:56 AM
and I haven't actually heard any of them yet, but that is not of paramount importance when it comes to Eurovision :D *cough*

Kris
Mar 2nd, 2002, 04:47 PM
For all "Wetten-dass" viewers today German Corinna May will sing her song in this show!!!

matthias
Mar 2nd, 2002, 05:01 PM
i will watch WETTEN DASS....????

Brαm
Mar 4th, 2002, 04:23 PM
noodles, it's sergio "&" the ladies now, not "@" the ladies. there was a name-change :rolleyes:

Nicoleke
Mar 4th, 2002, 04:24 PM
I listened to the british, the french and the swedish "entries " and they are all very very " great ". Maybe, the top 3 ....

Jessica Garlick ( For the United Kingdown), she will sing " Come back " :

http://www.eurovisionhouse.nl/images/esc2002/UK-Jessica_Garlick.jpg ;) .

*Bubbles*
Mar 4th, 2002, 05:04 PM
I've only heard the Swedish and the Finnish "entries" and the Swedish is okay (wasn't the best one in the Swedish competition though)
It's a group called "Afro-dite" (three girls) Can't remember the name now, sorry 'bout that but here is a picture:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/kvinna/0203/03/varmode/afrodite.jpg

Now, when it comes to Finland. The song is just awful (not a chance you can be patriotic with this song) Everything about it is just awful and really, really embarrassing. :rolleyes: Once again we will absolutely take home the last place (Finland 1 p. if we're LUCKY)

gentenaire
Mar 4th, 2002, 06:22 PM
I think the Swedes could get some high scores. To be perfectly honest, I'm not too fond of the British and the French entry. Balads usually don't do well.

Seles_Beckham
Mar 4th, 2002, 06:24 PM
What are the country who participate this year???

I hope Yugosalvia will be there this year

Iconoclast
Mar 4th, 2002, 06:31 PM
Participants:

1 CYPRUS
2 UNITED KINGDOM
3 AUSTRIA
4 GREECE
5 SPAIN
6 CROATIA
7 RUSSIA
8 ESTONIA
9 FYR MACEDONIA
10 ISRAEL
11 SWITZERLAND
12 SWEDEN
13 FINLAND
14 DENMARK
15 BOSNIA
16 BELGIUM
17 FRANCE
18 GERMANY
19 TURKEY
20 MALTA
21 ROMANIA
22 SLOVENIA
23 LATVIA
24 LITHUANIA

Iconoclast
Mar 4th, 2002, 06:48 PM
So far, the Swedes head the field. Afro-Dite will blow the Estonian crowd away when they get going. That's how they secured a landslide in Sweden against very stiff competition. Their stage performance is spectacular. The Supremes are back!

The song is quite intriguing, with several layers and shifts in tempo. The first 30 seconds are a bit slow and uninteresting, but from then it gathers momentum.

"What a life we had!
What a life we lived!"

The Finnish entry should find its place in the middle of the field, but with the weakening of the Scandinavian Mafia (and associates) it may struggle to avoid relegation. It will certainly be blatantly ignored by the Mediterranean Mob.

Nothing wrong with Laura's vocal effort - but the song lets her down by being much too ordinary.

dhenni
Mar 4th, 2002, 07:38 PM
Afro-dite: Gladys del Pilar, Kayo Shekoni and Blossom Tainton... and the last one´s a personal trainer in everyday life. :cool: IMO, the song´s not very good, but their performance are great... :)

I don´t think any of the Swedish entries were really good... and it´s like almost every singer come from anonymity to be a ”star” for 5 minutes and then go back to anonymity again...:rolleyes:

Iconoclast
Mar 4th, 2002, 08:11 PM
dhenni: Was one of the performers a television hostess once? She just seems familiar (the one in the middle on the picture above).

I think "Adrenaline" from Mendez was a very powerful song, but I doubt it would have done well in Tallinn. Not mainstream enough.

The Greek entry is starting to grow on me. Pompous 80's style. Just seems a bit too repetitive, much like the German song.

"Hey!"

aliceb
Mar 5th, 2002, 11:58 AM
I've heard good things from friends about Germany and Sweden and look forward to hearing them.
I went to the selection show for the UK entry at the BBC on Sunday, and didn't like any off them! I think they only picked the winner bacause she was on pop idol (which I didn't watch) and it's a bland ballad that I don't think will do well, esp as we are on so early (2nd), and hopefully the rest of Europe won't know who she is so won't vote for her just because they know her - it is a 'song' contest after all, although one of the worst songs of the night won it last year! (Sorry Estonia!)

Princess Fiona
Mar 5th, 2002, 12:56 PM
Sergio certainly looks like a real ladies man. :D I usually try not to listen to any of the songs before E-night, but temptation is getting the better of me again...

Nicoleke
Mar 5th, 2002, 03:43 PM
Please, if you know where I can "download " all the french song, give me the " link " please please please!!!!! lol. I only heard the 30first seconds.

Last year, french song was the best and we didn' t win, only, because, it ' s a " ballad " I think ..... Anyway, Natasha Saint Pier is now, really very popular, her song " Je n' ai que mon âme " was # 2 in rench chars, and her new album will be " out " at the end of mach . Donwload the " single " "Tu trouveras " ( " You' ll find " if you want, it' s really very good.

Sandrine François' s song was written by a very popular french singer who is Patrick Bruel, and composed by Lara Fabian 's composer. The song will be very " good " once again.

GO SANDRINEFRANçOIS, ALL FRANCE IS WITH YOU GIRL !!!!!

Kris
Mar 5th, 2002, 04:21 PM
The Swedish entry is not my favourite...

I have to listen all songs to name my number one.

Here is a link, where you can download all songs:

http://www.eurosong.net

Nicoleke
Mar 5th, 2002, 04:32 PM
Kris, I don' t understand, but when I " come " to this website, I only can " download " the 21 first secods, and not the rest of the song, why ? ..... :sad: .

gentenaire
Mar 5th, 2002, 04:40 PM
Mary, I only got the first 20 or 30 seconds of the French song as well.

I agree with you about the French song of last year. It was by far the best song. But since the votes from the countries no longer come from juries but from tele-voting, no ballad has won.

turt
Mar 5th, 2002, 04:44 PM
I've got the full version, contact me by PM if you are interested in having it...

BTW it's a nice song :rolleyes: :angel:

matthias
Mar 5th, 2002, 05:20 PM
the full french song is now available on the www.eurosong.net website

Nicoleke
Mar 5th, 2002, 05:20 PM
Thank you Turt :) ,

Tine, I totally agree with you on the fact that " ballads " never wins, and it s " bad " I think .

It' s always up - tempos songs since tele - voting " exists ". " Everibody " wasn' t a very good song. The french, the greeck and the german songs was honestly, really " better " I think.

gentenaire
Mar 5th, 2002, 05:29 PM
Don't forget that the Eurovision song contest is as much about politics as about music. You see the Scandinavian countries giving eachother high votes, Belgium usually gives the Dutch a lot of votes, think of Cyprus...

People will sooner vote for a Eastern European country, a country that's not so well off, rather than for France, Germany, etc. Eastern European can win with a song that doesn't have to be the best. If the UK wants to win, they have to come up with a song that stands out from all the rest. The moment I heard Love Shine a Light, I knew it would win. It was the perfect Eurovision song. If the big countries come up with a song that's only slightly better than the others, they don't stand a chance.

matthias
Mar 5th, 2002, 06:09 PM
the French song is good, and i can imagine that i can vote for french!


i listen 10 songs til now


my points so far
i´m german and so i can´t give points to the the german song

12 points FRANCE
10 Points MALTA
08 Points DENMARK
07 points CYPRUS
06 points ESTONIA
05 points SWITZERLAND
04 points SWEDEN
03 points SLOVENIA
02 points TURKEY
01 ??????????

matthias
Mar 5th, 2002, 06:11 PM
The moment I heard Love Shine a Light, I knew it would win. It was the perfect Eurovision song.
Tine , me too

i heart the song and i knew GB will win.

dhenni
Mar 5th, 2002, 06:42 PM
Hey Iconoclast, yes, you´re right, the one in the middle is Kayo and she was a hostess of the programe (series) ”fångarna på fortet” a couple of years ago. Fort Boyard, or something, the fort outside the coast of France. (Her co-host was former olympic champion, nordic skiier Gunde Svan.) The one on the left is Gladys and the right one is the personal trainer.

:)

Nicoleke
Mar 6th, 2002, 04:43 PM
The moment I heard Love Shine a Light, I knew it would win. It was the perfect Eurovision song.

I totally agree too Matthias and Tine, and I like and liked this song, Katrina and the waves were very " great " and they were " high " in the charts after the " Eurovision song contest ", the best " award " of the two " prizes ", I think ;) .

matthias
Mar 6th, 2002, 08:15 PM
the UK song this year is boring, it isn´t a ballad and it isn´t a popsong. i don´t know what it is.

anabel
Mar 6th, 2002, 10:23 PM
One of these singers will represent Spain:

Rosa, David Bisbal or David Bustamante.

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/0cas1b.jpg

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/0casdesna.jpg

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/0cas_all.jpg


Rosa with "Europe's living a celebration"

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/19arosa_small.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/27rosrev_small.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/02rosa_small.jpg

David Bisbal with "Corazón latino"

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/0casa1.jpg

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/cas01bisbal4.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/t_bisbal3_small.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/02bisbal_small.jpg

David Bustamante with "La magia del corazón"

http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/0cassa.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/busta2.jpg

http://www.iespana.es/granh/images/at_bustamante3_small.jpg


http://www.castromar.com/logosfans/cas01tres.jpg

Nicoleke
Mar 7th, 2002, 05:24 PM
Allez la France, le jour de " gloire " est " revenu " !!!!! lol !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 8th, 2002, 11:05 AM
Nice pictures, anabel! And I like the glasses the girl at the end is wearing. :)

Josh
Mar 8th, 2002, 01:28 PM
French song is the same as every year, frankly they could use some innovation in Paris. It seems like they always send a ballad sung by a woman with a good voice. But it lacks creativity, it doesn't stand out and therefor I don't think it will get many points even though it's a very nice song.

Sweden is okay, will probably end in the top 5.

Josh
Mar 8th, 2002, 01:32 PM
British song is boring as hell ugh...

Russia is quite catchy too, will probably receive a lot of points too.

Josh
Mar 8th, 2002, 01:42 PM
Germany can do much better, they usually stand out with some remarkable act but Corinna May is frankly....common.

Nicoleke
Mar 8th, 2002, 03:19 PM
Josh, I totally do disagree with you. This year, France have a very good singer, with a very great song. Last year, Natasha Saint - Pier, was " sublim " and" robbed ", now, she is popular, here in France. it is not a " proof " ?

The french " entry " of 2000, Sofia Mestari was " ok ", bur not really " great ", and in 1999, Nayah wth " Je veux donner ma voix " was simply " awfull" and her voice was very bad, I think.

Last year, we had the best song, and the best singer, this year, ourr song is very great. Moreover Josh, why these very boring " ballads " never wins ? It' s pure and simply stupid ", it' s always " up - tempos ", unfortunatly, it's always the same too with the winners .....

Don' t you remember this "wonderfull " and " peacefull " song named " The bird and the child " ?, I don' t think so .....

Go SANDRINE FRANçOIS GO FRANCE !!!!!

I would like a " Paris 2003 " !!!!! :bounce: .

thekimfan
Mar 8th, 2002, 05:42 PM
"L'oiseau et l'enfant", heard it a lot...
And I have to agree, Natasha St- Pierres song was far the best last year, don't know why it hasn't won.

Mercury Rising
Mar 8th, 2002, 06:41 PM
I'm also not fond of ballads actually but we (belgium) almost send every year a ballad, and it was never good enough, but a real awfull song like the Danish one a couple of years ago won the contest!
From the songs I heard till now, I like ours the best, but the French one is nice, I think it can win.

Josh
Mar 8th, 2002, 06:47 PM
Marry Cherry, I think the French song is very nice but it simply won't win. France sends a ballad every year and when was the last time they won? Sure ballads have done well in the past (L'oiseau et l'enfant) but today you need a song that stands out because people will vote for the song that is stuck in their mind after hearing all 20+ songs. And since France keeps sending ballads every year, they won't win cause they are not innovative enough. What happened to Natasha St.Pier last year is an illustration of that. It was probably the best song of them all but it didn't win because it wasn't innovative enough.

Mercury Rising
Mar 8th, 2002, 06:52 PM
But what song stands out this year? That's the question, I haven't heard one.

Nicoleke
Mar 9th, 2002, 10:36 AM
Josh, once again, I totally disagree wih you. It' s maybe not innovating and alays the same, but I don' t think that for exemple, the sweedish song isreally innovating. It's always the same too, a bad " copy " of Abba .....
Last year, Estonia won, and we never heard the song after the Eurovision song contest ..... stupid and not really " innovating too ..... Natasha Saint - Pier lost only because french not vote only for abroad countries, like Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and so on ..... She was ranked high in french and canadian charts, and she will be " high" wit her new album which will be " ou " at the end of the mounth. It' s was " better " when a jury voted and not the televoting .....
France have great songs, with great composers and singers.
I like very much ballads, " Quelques grammes de finesse dans ce monde de brutes ..... ", and we won' t win but once again, this girl will have the " greatest " carreer of all the competitors, I' m certain .... ;) .

gentenaire
Mar 9th, 2002, 11:29 AM
Mary, you should know by now that it's not always the best song that wins. It's usually the song that stands out the most. Think of Dana International, I don't think that was a great song but it stood out. There was so much talk of Dana that everyone knew beforehand that she would win.

So what Josh is saying is that if France wants to win, you'll have to come up with something else, something that stands out more. Last year's French entry shows this. Everyone here agrees that it was the best song, but it was a ballad. I only realised the French song was the best one until after the contest. Ballads get lost in all the other songs. When the voting started I couldn't even remember what the French song sounded like.

turt
Mar 9th, 2002, 11:54 AM
Does anyone know where I can find the Belgian song on the net?
Actually I haven't heard it yet, and I wander whether we will get some points this year :rolleyes: :angel:

Nicoleke
Mar 9th, 2002, 11:58 AM
Okay Tine, but I think that we had to do what we knows. Per exemple, we can make " pop songs" but it will not really " good " because, our, french people, can make " sublim " ballads and " nice " but not " sublim " pop songs.

I agree for Dana International, thisyea, I prefered a ..... ballad ..... lol ;) The maltanian girl Chiara finished third with the very great song " The one that I love " do you remember it ? lol

I' ll " help you :

Because, I felt in love,
And you miss so much to me,
I think I love you so,
I neverlet you go,
It must be love
[ ..... ]
You' re the one that I love .....

I totally loved that " wonderfull" song

Okay, okay, I' m a " ballad " fan lol ;) . ( Poor me, It isn't my fault if I' m a " romantic " girl ..... lol ) ;) .

Mercury Rising
Mar 9th, 2002, 12:19 PM
Where can I find the French song of last year, I can't remember it :rolleyes:

turt
Mar 9th, 2002, 12:32 PM
You can find it with a peer2peer program such as Kazaa, Grokster, Audiogalaxy or Morpheus ;)

Mercury Rising
Mar 9th, 2002, 12:34 PM
I don't have such a program, it messes up my pc and internet connection, maybe someone can send it through??

gentenaire
Mar 9th, 2002, 02:14 PM
Kristof, I have on my computer. I could send it to you but it's 2.7MB. I hope that's not a problem for you.

Mercury Rising
Mar 9th, 2002, 02:17 PM
Aah, thanx Tine, but I allready got it from Turt, after some difficulties with msn.
It worked with ICQ, but thanx anyway :)

matthias
Mar 10th, 2002, 02:19 PM
i still miss a very special song this year, all songs listen very ordinary!

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:15 PM
at the moment I'd say the German and the Russian songs could score the highest. The Russian song is very catchy.

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:16 PM
oh, and I just listened to the full version of the French songs. The climax at the end of the song might make up for the fact that it's a ballad. It does sound pretty good but they'll have to shorten it. It's now 4 minutes long!

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:24 PM
never mind me, I'm listening to the songs at the moment.

I'm counting how often the Austrian guy sings "Say a word and I'll be there" in a row. It's 8 times! (every 4th is slightly different)
It gets tiring after a while.

The UK song doesn't stand out and since it comes second, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no UK in next year's contest.

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:32 PM
I heard them all now (apart from the songs that are still missing of course).

I think Russia will win (if the act is good, it's possible that it sounds terrible live).

per4ever
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:33 PM
is this a Colin Firth thread :rolleyes:

where did you hear them Tine?

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:34 PM
At http://www.eurosong.net

gmt
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:35 PM
Actually, Josh, the French ballad at ESC trend is relatively recent. Don't forget that we have a problem with ESC here - millions watch it but hardly anybody would confess it publicly :D

So, let's see:

1956 Methe Altery Le temps perdu never heard it
1956 Dany Dauberson Il est là never heard it
1957 Paul Desjardins La Belle Arnour never heard it
1958 Andre Claveau Dors, mon amour romantic soothing slow
1959 Jacques Philippe Oui oui oui oui never heard it
1960 Jacqueline Boyer Tom Pillibi witty children-like funny song
1961 Jean Paul Mauric Printemps (Avril carillonne) never heard it
1962 Isabelle Aubret Un premier amour haunting melancholy song
1963 Alain Barrière Elle était si jolie hehe, the romantic French song of the 1960s
1964 Rachel Le chant de Mallory never heard it
1965 Guy Mardel N'avoue jamais middle-slow 1960s song
1966 Dominique Walter Chez nous never heard it
1967 Noëlle Cordier Il doit faire beau là-bas never heard it
1968 Isabelle Aubret La source a classic song "with a text"
1969 Frida Boccara Un jour un enfant pseudo-classic aria with a big voice
1970 Guy Bonnet Marie Blanche never heard it
1971 Serge Lama Un jardin sur la terre excited saturated lyricism as usual with Lama
1972 Betty Mars Come-Comedie never heard it
1973 Martine Clémenceau Sans toi never heard it
1974 - - I heard it actually! a bit weird
1975 Nicole Rieu Et bonjour à toi l'artiste lighthearted, spring-like, moderate speed
1976 Catherine Ferry Un, deux, trois don't remember
1977 Marie Myriam L'oiseau et l'enfant a ballad if you wish
1978 Joël Prevost Il y aura toujours des violons never heard it
1979 Anne-Marie David Je suis l'enfant-soleil extrovert tragic love story
1980 Profil Hé, hé, m'sieurs dames uninspiring disco song
1981 Jean Gabilou Humanahum slightly weird philosophic science-fiction tale
1982 - -
1983 Guy Bonnet Vivre don't remember
1984 Annick Thoumazeau Autant d'amoureux que d'étoiles don't remember
1985 Roger Bens Femme dans ses rêves aussi don't remember
1986 Cocktail Chic Européennes duh
1987 Christine Minier Les mots d'amour n'ont pas de dimanche don't remember
1988 Gérard Lenorman Chanteur de charme somewhat disenchanted ballad
1989 Nathalie Pâque J'ai volé la vie a quite special philosophic song with an intense child's voice
1990 Joëlle Ursull White and black blues what the title says
1991 Amina C'est le dernier qui a parlé qui a raison good quality world music
1992 Kali Monté la riviè caribbean soothing song
1993 Patrick Fiori Mama Corsica fully voiced lyrical song
1994 Nina Morato Je suis un vrai garçon really not the usual ballad :D
1995 Nathalie Santamaria Il me donne rendez-vous bittersweet song about a love affair
1996 Dan Ar Braz & l'héritage des Celtes Diwanit bugale Celtic lullaby, slower than a ballad actually
1997 Fanny Sentiments songes strange and sad love song
1998 Marie-Line Où aller hard to describe ;)
1999 Nayah Je veux donner ma voix there start the ballads sung by a female voice...
2000 Sofia Mestari On aura le ciel but this one is less assertive
2001 Natasha St Pier Je n'ai que mon âme and this is the most traditional in a way...

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:37 PM
that's rather unfortunate, gmt, cause before the televoting ballads scored higher. It should have been the other way around, I guess.

gmt
Mar 10th, 2002, 03:39 PM
But we Frenchies sing for the sheer love of Art, not to win :angel:

yeah right

matthias
Mar 10th, 2002, 04:08 PM
i like the Russian song too
Austria is boring
Greece, at the beginnig i thought "wow a great start" but then the song bored me.
FYR Macedonia is my hottest candidate for 0 points

babsi
Mar 10th, 2002, 04:13 PM
this year doesn't look too good for the song quality, but i will enjoy the evening nonetheless:)

Nicoleke
Mar 10th, 2002, 04:24 PM
I think that the Sofia Mestari' s song isn't a " ballad ", my french all time favourite Eurovision songs are :

- " L' oiseau et l' enfant ",
- " La source ",
- " Withe and blac blues ",
- " Diwanit bugale ",
an, of course, " Je n' ai que mon âme "

I totally agree Gmt, Où aler ? ", oh what a not " wonderfull " song, but " innovating " Josh ! lol ;) .

Princess Fiona
Mar 10th, 2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by per4ever
is this a Colin Firth thread :rolleyes:

What's this, I thought Jessica Garlick was representing the UK! :D How can we possibly not win with Mr. Firth? ;) :hearts:

And I still haven't heard the JG song...

Josh
Mar 10th, 2002, 06:18 PM
I agree about the Russian song. I've listened to them all once and the Russian song is the only one I remembered, the only one that stuck in my head.

per4ever
Mar 10th, 2002, 06:32 PM
listening to the songs right now..

and I don't think the UK will end that low Tine..

Russia is good :D

gentenaire
Mar 10th, 2002, 07:25 PM
I'm not saying the UK entry is bad, it just doesn't stand out and it's got the disadvantage of coming second, the worst spot to be in.

anabel
Mar 11th, 2002, 09:56 PM
Rosa with "Europe's living a celebration" will be Spain's singer for ESC, she just won it :)

Good luck Rosa!!

Nicoleke
Mar 12th, 2002, 03:58 PM
Personally, I think that the Uk " entry " is good, and Jessica Garlick will be in the top five, I hope.

Tine, It' s impossible that the Uk would' t be at te Eurovision song contet next year. Indeed, The Uk, Germany, Spa ad France can' t be " eliminate " due to the fact that they " give" a lot of money ;) .

Josh
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:04 PM
They give a lot of money to what? :confused:

A country that doesn't get enough points can't take part, whether it's France, UK, Greece, Austria, Belgium, Poland,...

Nicoleke
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:08 PM
What you' re saying Josh is totally wrong , read the " rules " of the Eurovision song contest and you will see ;)

THE UK, FRANCE, SPAIN and GERMANY give a lot of money to the Broadcoasting union, I' m certain that they can' t be " eliminate "!

turt
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:13 PM
Yeah, it's just like in figure skating, the french federation pays the judges for winning the trophy :rolleyes: :angel:

Nooon, ne me tape pas! Ouille! aille! :p

Nicoleke
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:16 PM
Ah ah : ironic : And I am right .Josh, I don' t always say stupid things ! :p

turt
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:18 PM
yeah, "not always" :rolleyes: :angel:

But what do exactly SAY the rules? Is it written "France can't be eliminated as they bring a lot of money"? :confused:

Josh
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:20 PM
There's a first "time" for "everything", as they "say". :p

turt
Mar 12th, 2002, 04:23 PM
Oh actually it IS written such a thing!

"Active participants are selected on the following basis:

(...)
- The largest contributing participants (which are, at present, France, Germany, Spain and the United Kingdom)"


This is really UNFAIR ! :confused: :rolleyes: :angel:

Nicoleke
Mar 12th, 2002, 05:14 PM
No, no, no, it' s really fair . The Eurovision song contest won' t be the same without France, the United kingdown, Spain or Germany I think.

Moreover, it's not our " fault " if we' ve got the " richer " channels, and if they give a lot of money :p . I think that if they give a lot of money, it' s totally " normal " that they always " participate ". If only Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania participate, I dont' think that the contest had any money ! lol :p

Turt, the thing wich is totally " unfair " is the fact that for exemple, belgian channel don' t give the same " price " that french or british channels ! lol :p

Nicoleke
Mar 12th, 2002, 05:16 PM
Hee hee, I am right , you are totally wrong Josh !!!!! lol :p .

turt
Mar 12th, 2002, 05:19 PM
Well, it seems that, in this world, it's all about money... :rolleyes: :angel:

BTW, I think it would be a REALLY good idea if all the previous winning countries are automatically qualified ;)

So that would mean Belgium could not be eliminated :p

gentenaire
Mar 12th, 2002, 05:23 PM
You're right Mary, I'd forgotten about that.

aliceb
Mar 13th, 2002, 04:05 PM
It's true, those four countries can never be relagated, and yet we won't see Ireland (who I won't miss as I never like there songs) or the Netherlands (who I will miss) in this year's contest, even though they have both won more than once. Every though I'm from the UK, I don't believe in this money led decision, but if the UK could be relagated, you could be sure the BBC wouldn't show it without us taking part.
The UK is so insular, I bet Irish and Dutch TV is showing it this year!
BTW, I will be going to the monthly Eurovision night we have in a gay pub here in London (do any other events exist like this in Europe, I wonder?) tomorrow, where I'm sure they'll play a lot of the entries, so I'll let you know what I think.

Nicoleke
Mar 13th, 2002, 05:13 PM
I totally do disagree, if our countries pays a lot, it ' s " normal " that we can' t be " relegated " !!!!!

Kris
Mar 13th, 2002, 05:51 PM
You can give your points...

http://www.eurosong.de/_start/index1024x768.html

The Last Unicorn
Mar 14th, 2002, 12:47 PM
I heard that Céline Dion was an ESC-Winner back in 1982. Is that true? And why did she compete there? I know that she performed for Switzerland but why?

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 01:15 PM
I think Céline won the ESC in 87 or 88 (but not 82). She did win for Switzerland as it doesn't matter what nationality the singer has. Only the songwriter must have the nationality of the country.

gentenaire
Mar 14th, 2002, 01:21 PM
I thought quite a few songs in the Belgian preselections were written by Americans. Or is it enough if one person is Belgian?

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 01:32 PM
All songs must be written by citizens of the country in question. All the songs in the national finals were written by Belgians.

gentenaire
Mar 14th, 2002, 01:52 PM
That's not true, Josh. They always said in the beginning who wrote the song. Spark's song was written by Americans. I remember clearly Marcel's comment that it was by far the best song techically, but that he preferred to send a song written by Belgians.
Wendy Van Wanten's song was also written by an American songwriter.

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 02:10 PM
I guess they've changed the rules then.

Nicoleke
Mar 14th, 2002, 05:12 PM
Don' t believe Josh Tine, I doubt he is an " expert " with the Eurovision song contest rules !!!!! lol ;) .

Moreover, what you' re saying Josh is false, France Gall won for Luxemburg in the sixties, and it' s was the french man Serge Gainsbourg who wrote the song " Poupée de cire, poupée de son ", i' m not really " certain "but I think you' re are " wrong " Josh !!!!! ;) !!!!!

turt
Mar 14th, 2002, 05:14 PM
The countries are free to choose their representant in the way they want!

(That's what's written in the rules...)

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 05:25 PM
Over three dozen international songwriting contests take place each year, in countries ranging from the USA to Ireland. Most contests are open to overseas entries, apart from the national contests arranged country-by-country for participation in the annual Eurovision Song Contest, which is the largest and most successful song contest held in the world.

If you wish to enter the Eurovision, you can only do so as an entrant into your own country's qualifying heat. Such heats are organised by the national television service in each of the participating nations, and take place in the spring of each year.

From : http://www.songwriter.co.uk/page3.html

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 05:38 PM
But the rules have changed so many times over the past years so in the end there really are no rules. ;)

gentenaire
Mar 14th, 2002, 06:14 PM
It just says that the nations decide, it doesn't say the songwriters have to be citizens of this country.

Josh
Mar 14th, 2002, 10:11 PM
If you wish to enter the Eurovision, you can only do so as an entrant into your own country's qualifying heat.

It's kind of silly they abolished this rule cause now the song doesn't need a link to the country that chose it. F.e. a Canadian can write the Finnish song in French, sung by a Swiss singer. Where's the link to Finland then? :confused:
They should have kept the rule that said that every country had to send a song in its own national language or at least keep the rule that says that the songwriter must be a citizen of the country.

Nicoleke
Mar 15th, 2002, 02:42 PM
Go Jessica Garlick and Sandrine François !!!!! Go the United kingdown and France !!!!!

babsi
Mar 16th, 2002, 11:10 AM
If you want to watch a piss-take on Eurovision, you should watch the Father Ted eurosong episode, it really is a classic.

First off 2 sets of priests enter the Irish eurosong competition, and then Father Ted and Dougal made up there song which was called 'my lovely horse' and it is really, really bad and it has the same note running thoughout the whole song. but before this they decide to 'still' the music of an song that was #5 in the Norwegian eurosong event in 1976, but they hear about it somewhere else so they don't use it they instead use the one note song.

We get to the night and the other set of priests perform their song and it is good (in the story it is supposed to be like that and it isn't) and then Father Ted and Dougal go on and perform their 'song' and it is really bad and at the end they get no applause whatsoever.

And then they win the event! wow so why did they win it?

because the song was so bad Ireland wouldn't have to host it again and spend all that money and nobody would possibly pick it to win (remember this episode was shot in 96) and the person that picked it said that was the idea.

then at the end they were there on eurovision night and the kept getting nil point.

TatiAnnahølic
Mar 16th, 2002, 11:20 AM
VAMOS ROSA Y ESPAÑA!!!!!!!

Mercury Rising
Mar 16th, 2002, 07:27 PM
It's bullshit that those big countries can't be disqualified, but the whole thing is actually bullshit.


I'm only saying the truth, little countries get a stab in the back.
But I know this is the way the world goes, it doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.

And it was a bump on a more original way n'est-ce pas?;)

turt
Mar 16th, 2002, 08:19 PM
Noodles, you won't make friends here, telling such things ;)

(N'est-ce pas? ;) )

Iconoclast
Mar 16th, 2002, 10:05 PM
Great thread...

Hush, Noodles! ;)

I must say that the Maltese entry is quite sparkling. Didn't 'get it' at first listen, but there's something 'bout Ira Losco's vocals which I find appealing - so fresh and cute, if not the 7th Wonder.

The Russian "Northern Girl" seems averagely endowed. Don't see it breaking into the Top 5.

Spain took awfully long to select Rosa, but it isn't much of a celebration.

The Greek entry still baffles me. What a courageous song - 80's electro-pop! S.A.G.A.P.O. Luckily the lyrics won't matter much with the televoters, otherwise it would really get dumped. They are astutely assinine!

Germany's Corinne May can't be discarded. Didn't think a whole lot about it at first, but it has a great flow. And her vocal performance is crisp.

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 11:52 AM
Noodles, it's not our fault if our channels are " rich ". If we pay a lot, it ' s simply " normal " that we can' t be " disqualified " !!!!! And if we don' t pay, it will maybe be the " death " of this song contest. If you want that Belgium can' t be " disqualify ", your tv channels have to give much money !!!

Et, nous ne sommes pas totallement " stupides ", on ne va quand même pas vous filler des sous, ne pas particper, et ne pas récupérer les points "Audimat ", réfléchi !!!!! lol ;) .

turt
Mar 17th, 2002, 11:53 AM
Héhé, je sentais la réaction venir :rolleyes: :angel:

Mercury Rising
Mar 17th, 2002, 12:07 PM
Yes, I felt it coming too. I think you can't discuss this. If the same thing was done in sports would you agree too? Were will we end then? It's all a rich mans world. With 6 million and 4 million potential viewers you can't compete with a country as France, can you? Our channels would be bankrupt in no time.

Ofcourse you will not pay if you can't compete, but that doesn't change the fact that it isn't right.

m_pierce fan
Mar 17th, 2002, 12:44 PM
1. France
2. Finland
3. Russia
4. Germany
5. Sweden

Finland's Laura is really great singer and she acts really great and she's sexy!!!:hearts:

Princess Fiona
Mar 17th, 2002, 12:53 PM
The Russian "Northern Girl" seems averagely endowed. Don't see it breaking into the Top 5.

I think I was one of the few people to really like the Russian song ("Lady Alpine Blue") from last year, and I think that should have done better.

The Greek entry still baffles me. What a courageous song - 80's electro-pop! S.A.G.A.P.O. Luckily the lyrics won't matter much with the televoters, otherwise it would really get dumped. They are astutely assinine!

80s electro-pop? Oooh, sounds like my kinda "thang"! ;)

Btw, I agree with Noodles :p *ducking*

Iconoclast
Mar 17th, 2002, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Franziska
I think I was one of the few people to really like the Russian song ("Lady Alpine Blue") from last year, and I think that should have done better.
Ah, yes, the guy with the helium voice and the "alternative" stage presence. Very original and intriguing song, much unlike this year's conservative entry from Russia. Brainstorm's "My Star" from 2000 (Latvia) was also a great song in a grenre untypical of the Eurovision.


80s electro-pop? Oooh, sounds like my kinda "thang"! ;)

Be warned! The reactions to this song are very mixed. I've seen people claim it to be a candidate as worst Eurovision song in history. :eek:

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 02:56 PM
Noodles the Eurovision song contest isn' t a sport !!!!! I' m not an accountant, but the " budget " os the contest will be very bad without, the Uk, France, Spain and Germany. I doubt that Belgium, Macedonia, Estonia or Latvia for exemple can give any money !!!!! To conclude, it' s totally " normal " that we can' t be " eliminate because we give a lot of money, without these four countries, I doubt that the contest can " survive " !!!!!

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 03:00 PM
M_Pierce fan : Good choice :D !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 17th, 2002, 03:07 PM
Ah, yes, the guy with the helium voice and the "alternative" stage presence. Very original and intriguing song, much unlike this year's conservative entry from Russia. Brainstorm's "My Star" from 2000 (Latvia) was also a great song in a grenre untypical of the Eurovision.

It was a very original and intriguing song, and it's nice to find someone else who liked it! ;) I remember the Brainstorm song, too - are they still around? Weren't they tipped to make it big?

Be warned! The reactions to this song are very mixed. I've seen people claim it to be a candidate as worst Eurovision song in history.

Really? Now it DEFINITELY sounds like my kinda "thang"! :D *cough*

Sorry about the quoting btw - I do not think I have got it to look right :rolleyes:

Mercury Rising
Mar 17th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Mary Chelly, I understand your point, but I don't think you fully understand mine. Like a girl a few years ago sang It's all about the money , but it shouldn't be like that.
You CAN compare this to sports cause there is a winner, it's about winning. But how can this be fair with such rules?
If Germany ends last one year, they can win the next, for Belgium this is impossible, that just isn't right.
But I don't want to argue about this (oops, too late), it's just an opinion.


Thanx Fiona for your support, it was really warming, hehe :angel: :D

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 03:47 PM
Okay, okay, it' s just my opinion too, no problems, everybody can have his own opinion, excuse me Noodles, it wasn' t a personal stuff, it ' s just my opinion !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 17th, 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Noodles
Thanx Fiona for your support, it was really warming, hehe :angel: :D

You're welcome ;)

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 05:49 PM
I' ve eard the totally of the "maltanian " song ( It is the " right " word for : The song for Malta? lol ;- ) ), and it' s really very very very very very " good ". It' s very " fresh " and " pleasant ". I think that I' ll maybe vote for Malta. It will not be a " surprise " if Malta win the Eurovision song contest 2002 because this song is really " good " !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 17th, 2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Mary Cherry
I' ve eard the totally of the "maltanian " song ( It is the " right " word for : The song for Malta? lol ;- ) ), and it' s really very very very very very " good ". It' s very " fresh " and " pleasant ". I think that I' ll maybe vote for Malta. It will not be a " surprise " if Malta win the Eurovision song contest 2002 because this song is really " good " !!!!!

Hi Mary! :wavey: I think the right word is "Maltese". ;) I'll look forward to hearing this song!

Oh look, I get post #200 in this thread :D :cool:

Nicoleke
Mar 17th, 2002, 08:27 PM
Yes, the maltese song, stupid me !!!!! Thank you Franziska, you' re the best !!!!! ;) :D ;) :) ;) !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 17th, 2002, 08:49 PM
You're welcome, Mary! And you're not stupid - you're the best. ;) :)

Nicoleke
Mar 18th, 2002, 02:38 PM
The great Natasha Saint - Pier who finish 4 th last year fo France is really very " popular " now in France and in Canada ( Maybe, in Belgium ans Switzerland too, I don' t know ). Her new album " De l' amour, le mieux " will be " out " in Canada and France and the begining of april and her cd single " Tu trouveras " which is a very " wonderfull " song, will be " out " the 25 th of march in France, there are a " picture " taken from her new album :

http://membres.lycos.fr/natashasp/actualites/natasha_au_spectrum.jpg

Nice hairs Natasha !!!!! lol

And, if we can " watch " french television, you can " see " Natasha Saint - Pier on :

_ 23/03 " Hit Machine " on M6
_ 23/03 " Spéciale Serge Lama " on France 2
_ 30/03 " Spéciale Céline Dion " on TF1
_ 02/04 " CD'aujourd'hui " on France 2
_ 03/04 " En attendant l' Eurovision " on France 3
_ 06/04 " On a tout essayé " on France 2
_ 27/04 " C'est Show " on France 2


Natasha Saint - Pier didn' t win last year the Eurovision song contest, but, it' s her " real " winner !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 18th, 2002, 03:22 PM
:wavey: Merci, Mary! I'm pleased to see that Mademoiselle Natasha is so popular!

(And yes, she has very nice hair ;))

Nicoleke
Mar 18th, 2002, 04:22 PM
You' re welcome Franziska !!!!! I like the colour of her hair, Mine are a little bit " similar " ;) !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 18th, 2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Mary Cherry
You' re welcome Franziska !!!!! I like the colour of her hair, Mine are a little bit " similar " ;) !!!!!

My hair colour is a little similar, too! :D

But Natasha has nicer hair than me, and I'm sure you do as well. ;)

Nicoleke
Mar 19th, 2002, 03:37 PM
So, great hair, Franziska :D !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 19th, 2002, 05:39 PM
Naturellement Mary! ;)

Nicoleke
Mar 19th, 2002, 05:43 PM
To sum up, we' re " naturellement " the prettiest, Franziska ;) !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 19th, 2002, 05:45 PM
Oh, naturellement, Mary. I COMPLETELY agree! ;)

And if there is anyone reading who has seen my pic, beware! :beware: *kick*

Nicoleke
Mar 19th, 2002, 05:49 PM
Hee hee !!!!! ;) lol.

Kuilli
Mar 20th, 2002, 05:30 AM
I just listened to the Estonian song, and I do not like it much. :( And, why did they have to choose a Swedish singer? I would rather have an Estonian singer representing Estonia. But, what do I know, I didn't like our song last year either, and we won! :rolleyes: ;)

Nicoleke
Mar 20th, 2002, 06:01 PM
I totally do " agree " with you Kuilli !!!!!

Nicoleke
Mar 26th, 2002, 03:52 PM
Do you " remember " the girl who is on my new " avatar " ?

2ace2
Mar 26th, 2002, 03:55 PM
On the site, only few songs work. But none is really my taste!
Who is the girl on your avatar, Mary Cherry?
:)

Nicoleke
Mar 26th, 2002, 04:04 PM
Isn' t she very " good looking " ? lol

She is Natasha Saint - Pier, the girl who sang " Je n' ai que mon âme " ( " All I have is my soul " ) last year in the Eurovision song contest in Copenhagen.

This is the " picture " of her new cd " Tu trouveras " wich was written and composed by two famous french guys ( Pascal Obispo who wrote for Céline Dion, and Rick Alisson, who is Lara Fabian' s composer and it is the one who composed " Il faut du temps " the french " entry " for 2002 ).

Natasha Saint - Pier ' s new album will be " out " in France at the begining of April, and is " out " now only in Canada. Gérald De Palmas, Calogéro and Luc Plamandon wrote too some songs !!!!!
Isn' t she the " real " winner of the last year " Eurovision song contest " ? I think " yes " !!!!!

2ace2
Mar 26th, 2002, 04:06 PM
:eek:
Is that really the same girl?
Much better this way!
:D

Nicoleke
Mar 26th, 2002, 04:08 PM
And yes, she is the " same " girl, I really like her new " hair " color !!!!! lol

Princess Fiona
Mar 27th, 2002, 10:16 PM
Bonjour Mary! I just want to say how much I like your new Avatar (the wonderful singer with the wonderful hair ;)).

Not long to go until ESC-night!! :bounce:

Nicoleke
Mar 28th, 2002, 03:18 PM
Merci beaucoup gentille Franziska :D,

I bought Natasha Saint - Pier' s new cd, and it's really very " good " !!!!!

I' m certain, that you will like it too !!!!!

Princess Fiona
Mar 28th, 2002, 03:54 PM
De rien, Mary! I'm pleased you enjoyed it, and I'm sure that I would like it, too. :)

Kris
Mar 28th, 2002, 07:32 PM
please post your first votes....

you can not vote for your country!!!!


12 points to malta
10 points to denmark
8 points to france
7 points to spain
6 points to austria
5 points to united knigdom
4 points to belgium
3 points to estonia
2 points to finland
1 point to sweden

Kris
Mar 29th, 2002, 02:11 PM
come on, where are your votes ?`???

croat123
Mar 29th, 2002, 02:58 PM
Here is a pic of Vesna Pisarovic (she is HOT):

http://http://www.eurovision.tv/gfx/artist/artist_croatia_image.gif

pic doesn't work, so here is the url:
http://www.eurovision.tv/gfx/artist/artist_croatia_image.gif

Kris
Mar 30th, 2002, 02:43 PM
VOTES PLEASE!!!!!!!

matthias
Mar 30th, 2002, 04:16 PM
12 points = Russia
10 points = France
08 points = Cyprus
07 points = Malta
06 points = Estonia
05 points = Denmark
04 points = Greece
03 points = United Kingdom
02 points = Spain
01 point = Austria

gmt
Mar 30th, 2002, 05:25 PM
I cannot vote - I do not have the proper connection to listen to the songs :rolleyes:

(Besides, I have to admit that I have enjoyed the evening itself a little less since I've had the opportunity to hear the entries in advance, so maybe I should not complain ;))

Nacho
Mar 30th, 2002, 05:28 PM
I haven't listened to all the songs, so I can't vote yet :o

BTW guys, would you really give points to Spain? :confused:

gmt
Apr 5th, 2002, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Franziska
And if there is anyone reading who has seen my pic, beware! :beware: *kick*

http://perso.club-internet.fr/ttle/tennis/knocked.gif
All right! All right! I won't say how lovely you actually look! :p

I am afraid I have surrendered :o - not heard all the songs properly, but got a large glimpse of each. I feel that we haven't heard a really vintage Eurovision song for years (not since 1997, as far as I am concerned, with "Love shine a light" along with my personal favourite for that year, "Fiumi di parole", and the quite extraordinary Polish entry as well), and none seems to really stand out this year either. But there are quite a few fairly good ones.

The French entry is rather striking, but not totally successful IMO. It is very good, not great. It might win, though.

Sweden's entry does not exactly belong to my favourite style, but it is convincing with its swift and clever mood changes. A potential winner.

I agree with what has been said about Germany's - Corinna May's voice is a definite asset, the song itself is well made but not particularly memorable. A potential winner nonetheless.

I don't think that the Maltese song will win, but I wouldn't mind. It is not so original but refreshing and sensitively sung.

I rather like Macedonia's, Bosnia & Herzegovina's, Switzerland's and Latvia's, which all have an intriguing touch within an otherwise rather classical pattern.

Other possible favourites would be Russia, Israel, or even Denmark, or Estonia which really presents a typical Scandinavian ESC entry, good quality and not too much innovation. Not everybody is Aude Wilken.

TOT, Spain's song is rather weird, but I wouldn't call it bad - and it may well get some points ;) I am a bit worried about Romania, not that the entry is so poor, but it does not come off well in English and the style might be disconcerting for the "average" ESC voter, if such a creature exists.

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 05:38 AM
I haven't heard all songs, but anyway, here are my votes:

12: Russia
10: France
8: Germany
7: Malta

I'd have to listen to the other songs again to complete the list

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 05:40 AM
gmt, join the 'I knew Love Shine a Light would win the moment I heard it' club ;-)

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 06:34 AM
;)@Tineke
Exactly - and yet, it was only my #3 choice for that year, but I'd have been only to happy to find one song of that quality in the last four years :rolleyes:

Oh, I am also a bit worried about Lithuania. Their entry is good in a way, though, the singer has a slight Neil Hannon touch, but I'm afraid that most people will not quite get it at the end of the contest, coming after the rather more catchy Latvian song.

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 06:44 AM
A funny thing is the high proportion of songs redolent of ESC in the 1980s. ESC has never been an avantgarde show, but, for instance, Bosnia's entry could really have been a (good) Yugoslav song fifteen years ago... I wish they could sing in Bosnian, but I'm afraid that Tine is right and a lesser version in English has a better chance to earn points, unfortunately. To take another example, I found "Take me to your heaven" a rather poor and uninteresting song, but found the English version still much more trite - and it won!

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 06:46 AM
I must confess I can't remember any of the other songs that year.
I usually only listen to a few seconds of each song before flipping channels again. That's why it's important that a song is catchy from the start.

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 06:57 AM
I just realized that Corinna May's song had something of Ruth Jacott's "Vrede" (arguably the best Dutch entry ever). It is less original, as is the voice, and overall I much preferred Vrede, but maybe the latter's special qualities actually prevented it from winning, so... ;)

Well then Tineke, wait until you're an old thing like me :D

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 07:09 AM
I once heard one of the reasons the Dutch always scored higher than the Flemish is because the Dutch realised that the words of the song should contain as little -g-, -sch, etc sounds as possible because they don't come over well to people who don't understand the language. I suppose this is more important to the Dutch because their g's are much deeper than the Flemish -g.

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 07:34 AM
:D
There is little doubt that the frequency of "g" and "ch" sounds in Dutch can be a bit disconcerting for foreigners... Likewise, songs in Arabic (more than Hebrew) would find it difficult to score high, even though I personally find spoken Arabic beautiful when it is carefully pronounced. Malta sent a few songs in Maltese thirty years ago, but soon realized that English was more "accessible", as it were. Still, the language spoken in everyday life in Malta is Maltese and not English (except for a bunch of intellectuals).

Hey, I had a look at the EBU (European Broadcasting Union) website, and there are quite a few countries which could take part in the contest, since one of their TV companies is an active member of the Union!

Some have at some point in the past:
Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy (until 1997 when a clash happened with Germany, I think), Luxembourg (I thought that it couldn't take part due to its TV company not being state-owned anymore...), Monaco (same thing), Morocco, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Yugoslavia.

Others never took part as far as I know:
Albania, Algeria, Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Moldova, San Marino, Tunisia and Ukraine.
Arguably 6 of those are not geographically in Europe, but then, neither are Israel and Morocco, and since their TV channels are members of the EBU, nothing prevents them from taking part in the ESC.

That would be nice (even though it would make entering the contest even tougher for "non-protected" countries)!

It is both sad and ironical that Italy does not take part any more. So many of the best songs in ESC history came from Italy (not Toto Cutugno's IMO, but evergreens such as "Gente di Mare", "Rapsodia", "Fiumi di parole", and even the more kitsch "Non ho l'età", "Ne piangi, ne ridi" or "Sì"...). Besides, the idea and design of the ESC originally came from the annual San Remo festival where the "best" Italian song of the year is elected. For many years, the San Remo winner went on to represent Italy at ESC.

Nicoleke
Apr 6th, 2002, 08:07 AM
Me to, I really liked " Love shine a light " by Katrina and the waves.
Do you remember Frances Ruffelle ( a brittish girl with " butterflys " in the hair ), she sang " We will be free " at the begining of the 90's ? I liked her.
I liked Liora from Israel with " Amen " too ! lol
I liked a swedish boy band who sang " Eloïse ", I don' t remember their names.
I liked Mélanie Cohl too, the best belgian " entry " of ever I think.

However, my 90's eurovision song contest song is Chiara from Malta with " The One that I love ", it was in 1998, but I' m not certain ( It was the same year of Dana international, Imaani and Mélanie Cohl ).

My all time favourits eurovision song contest songs are " Je n' ai que mon âme " France 2001, " L' oiseau et l' enfant " France 1977, " Ding a dong " by Teach in, " Un banc, un arbre, une rue " for Monaco in the 60's, " La source " by Isabelle Aubrey ( very very very very very great song ), " Ne partez pas sans moi " by Céline Dion ( Switzerland 1988 ), " Croire " by Lara Fabian for Luxembourg, " In your eyes " for Ireland, " Love shine a light " for the the United Kingdown" The one that I love " by Chiara for Malta ..... I'm certain that I forgot some songs .....

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by Mary Cherry
Do you remember Frances Ruffelle ( a brittish girl with " butterflys " in the hair ), she sang " We will be free " at the begining of the 90's ? I liked her.
Hehe, yes, I remember her ;) I can't say that I loved the song, but it was rather original, bearing a subtitle like "Lonely symphony" or something like that...


I liked Liora from Israel with " Amen " too ! lol
:D Well, I think that it is one of the most liked Israeli entries to this day. My own favourites are the 1978 and 1979 winners, "A-ba-ni-bi" (they won in Paris ;)) and "Hallelujah", and especially a very moving song which earned very few points, Rita's "Shara barechovot" (1990).


I liked a swedish boy band who sang " Eloïse ", I don' t remember their names.
The group was called Arvingarna. I liked it too, even though it was so much influenced by the Beatles!


I liked Mélanie Cohl too, the best belgian " entry " of ever I think.
Oh yes, "Say yes" (Dis oui), very lovely song and singer! Sandra Kim's "J'aime la vie" left a deeper mark in people's minds, but Mélanie's was a bit subtler.


However, my 90's eurovision song contest song is Chiara from Malta with " The One that I love ", it was in 1998, but I' m not certain ( It was the same year of Dana international, Imaani and Mélanie Cohl ).
Do you know that the song enjoyed some international success? I even heard it in a US version on a transatlantic flight :D And I also heard the Maltese version sung by Chiara, which I actually found better, more poetic.


My all time favourits eurovision song contest songs are " Je n' ai que mon âme " France 2001, " L' oiseau et l' enfant " France 1977, " Ding a dong " by Teach in, " Un banc, un arbre, une rue " for Monaco in the 60's, " La source " by Isabelle Aubrey ( very very very very very great song ), " Ne partez pas sans moi " by Céline Dion ( Switzerland 1988 ), " Croire " by Lara Fabian for Luxembourg, " In your eyes " for Ireland, " Love shine a light " for the the United Kingdown" The one that I love " by Chiara for Malta ..... I'm certain that I forgot some songs .....
We share quite a few favourites then ;)
Oddly I never heard more than a few seconds from "La source", and they sounded great indeed. The 1962 with which Isabelle Aubret won ESC was a haunting ballad about first love.
Niamh Kavanagh who sang "In your eyes" had a deep, enticing voice, with an almost metallic glow about it, she made a rather traditional love song really touching.

Oh well. L'oiseau et l'enfant still remains my all-time ESC favourite... I'll dig in my memory and come out with my own toplist :cool:

Nicoleke
Apr 6th, 2002, 09:26 AM
My dear Gmt, Do you have the maltanese ans the us version of " The one that I love " in mp3 ?

I forgot " Halleluja ", I like it very more ( more than " A - ba - ni - bi " ), I forgot Mary Spitery with " Little child " for Malta in 1992 too.
I think that maltanese love songs are often very " good ".

If you want I have the french version of " Amen " by Liora.

" Une prière, Aaaaamen, qui s" élève, aaaaamen, nos coeurs colombes chantent " halleluja ", aaaaamen ..... " lol.

Nicoleke
Apr 6th, 2002, 09:55 AM
The singer for France last year, Natasha Saint - Pier is a " new entry " this week in french charts with her new cd single " Tu trouveras " ( " You' ll find " ), she is number # 4 :) :D :) :D ;) .

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 10:03 AM
I'd often wondered why Italy no longer takes part.

Nicoleke
Apr 6th, 2002, 11:02 AM
I forgot too Michelle, 2001 german " entry " with " Wer liebe liebt " ( " To live for love " ).

Do you remember the belgian girl girl Morgan who sang " Nous on veux des violons ", it was I think in1992.
I liked too another belgian " entry ", it was a flemish fat blond haired girl, ( at the begining of the nineties too ), I don' t remember her name and the song but I liked it lol.....

Oh oh, I forgot " Puppet on the string " by Sandy Shaw too !!!!! lol.

What do you think of Sandrine François and her song ?

( French people,there are a " Special Eurovision song contest " show, tuesday at 9. 00 p. m. on France trois ).

Mercury Rising
Apr 6th, 2002, 11:53 AM
Mary Cherry, I think you mean Barbara Dex :)
She has a good voice, she still sings in English.

gentenaire
Apr 6th, 2002, 12:07 PM
Barbara Dex ended last, as usual. But in this case I don't think that last place was deserved. It was a good song.

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 01:04 PM
My dear Mary ;), I don't have the US version - I only heard it on a plane... On the other hand, I am not sure but I might have the Maltese version somewhere. I'll try to find it in my "souk" :D

Barbara Dex's song was good indeed! Too close to classical music to some tastes, I suppose, but simple, touching, and rather beautifully sung. Actually I seldom agree with either the winner or the song that comes last :rolleyes:

Nicoleke
Apr 6th, 2002, 01:13 PM
Yes, Barbara Dex ....., I totally do " agree" with you Tine, I think the same " thing " for Sofia Mestari.

gmt
Apr 6th, 2002, 03:00 PM
:( I don't seem to have Chiara's song in Maltese... Maybe it can still be found on the web?

As for my toplist...

France 1977 Marie Myriam L'oiseau et l'enfant
Italy 1997 Jalisse Fiumi di parole
Italy 1987 Umberto Tozzi & Raf Gente di mare
Italy 1992 Mia Martini Rapsodia
the Netherlands 1993 Ruth Jacott Vrede
United Kingdom 1989 Live Report Why do I always get it wrong?
Ireland 1970 Dana All kinds of everything
France 1969 Frida Boccara Un jour un enfant
Ireland 1993 Niamh Kavanagh In your eyes
Hungary 1994 Friderika Kinek mondjam el vétkeimet
Austria 1993 Tony Wegas Maria Magdalena
Israel 1979 Gali Atari Halleluya
Poland 1997 Anna Maria Jopek Ale jestem
Monaco 1971 Séverine Un banc, un arbre, une rue
Italy 1964 Gigliola Cinquetti Non ho l'eta
United Kingdom 1997 Katrina and the Waves Love shine a light
France 1991 Amina C'est le dernier qui a parlé qui a raison
Italy 1958 Domenico Mudugno Nel blu dipinto di blu
Spain 1995 Anabel Conde Vuelve conmigo
Finland 1998 Edea Aava
Luxembourg 1972 Vicky Leandros Après toi
Croatia 1996 Maja Blagdan Sveta ljubav
the Netherlands Edsilia Rombley Hemel en aarde
France 1960 Jacqueline Boyer Tom Pillibi
Ireland 1980 Johnny Logan What's another year
France 1963 Alain Barrière Elle était si jolie
France 1962 Isabelle Aubret Un premier amour
Norway 1995 Secret Garden Nocturne
the Netherlands 1975 Teach-In Ding-a-dong
United Kingdom 1976 Brotherhood of Man Save your kisses for me
Luxembourg 1973 Anne-Marie David Tu te reconnaîtras
Ireland 1991 Kim Jackson Could it be that I'm in love
Switzerland 1981 Peter, Sue & Marc Io senza te
Spain 1968 Massiel La la la
Portugal 1993 Anabela A cidade até ser dia
Italy 1974 Gigliola Cinquetti Si
Denmark 1963 Grethe & Jørgen Ingmann Dansevise
Greece 1991 Sofia Vossou I anixi
United Kingdom 1967 Sandie Shaw Puppet on a string
Luxembourg 1961 Jean-Claude Pascal Nous, les amoureux
Denmark 1995 Aud Wilken Fra Mols til Skagen
France 1975 Nicole Rieu Et bonjour à toi l'artiste
Italy 1965 Bobby Solo Se piangi, se ridi
the Netherlands 1980 Maggie McNeal Amsterdam
Poland 1994 Edyta Górniak To nie ja!
Sweden 2000 Roger Pontare När vindarna viskar mitt namn
Russia 1994 Youddith Vetschni strannik
Spain 1970 Julio Iglesias Gwendolyne
Israel 1978 Izhar Cohen A-Ba-Ni-Bi
Sweden 2002 Afro-dite Never let it go
France 1989 Nathalie Pâque J'ai volé la vie
Norway 1996 Elisabeth Andreassen I evighet
Ireland 1987 Johnny Logan Hold me now
Switzerland 1996 Cathy Leander Mon c?ur l'aime
Germany 1998 Guildo Horn Guildo hat Euch lieb
Cyprus 1996 Constantinos Mono yia mas
Denmark 2001 Rollo & King Never ever let you go
Germany 1981 Lena Valaitis Johnny Blue
France 2001 Natasha St-Pier Je n'ai que mon âme
Turkey 1989 Pan Bana bana
Cyprus 1999 Marlain Angelides Tha 'nai erotas
Norway 2001 Haldor Lægreid On my own


Oh, and a vote for this year (not a prediction, obviously):
Sweden
Israel
Malta
Switzerland
Latvia
Germany
United Kingdom
Spain
Croatia
Slovenia
Finland
Macedonia
Spain
Russia
Denmark
Estonia
...

(I would put France between Sweden and Israel)

Mercury Rising
Apr 6th, 2002, 03:14 PM
Okay, I can see it coming, we'll be last...again!!:o

arn
Apr 6th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Sergio will change his song a bit, more funky with the girls more at the front and around him and other clothes. I think it was just fine the way it is now