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fan911
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Why the heck does it matter that much? People always raise their hands if they are not ready to serve! But Serena served anyways disrespecting Justine. And somehow everyone turned against Justine because she won. Anyways I think this incident was overblown. Justine won because she fought very well.

DA FOREHAND
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Shut Thf F.u!

SelesFan70
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:54 PM
The "hand incident" was almost a year ago. It was ONE point in that match. I'm sure Serena has gotten over it. :rolleyes:

TeeRexx
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:55 PM
The hand incident was just a great opportunity for a person to show real character and honesty or to expose themselves as a cheat and a liar.

The decision was made and the choice taken.

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:56 PM
lordy! :lol:

gets the popcorn ready! :p

and I don't even like popcorn! ;)

CapFan#1
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:56 PM
The hand incident was just a great opportunity for a person to show real character and honesty or to expose themselves as a cheat and a liar.

The decision was made and the choice taken.
That about sums it up right there!:worship:

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 8th, 2004, 05:59 PM
The hand incident was just a great opportunity for a person to show real character and honesty or to expose themselves as a cheat and a liar.

The decision was made and the choice taken.]


Excellent Comment, and very well put. The decision was made and the choice taken!

fan911
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:04 PM
The hand incident was just a great opportunity for a person to show real character and honesty or to expose themselves as a cheat and a liar.

The decision was made and the choice taken.

Ok, so Serena made a mistake and served even if Justine had raised her hand, but get over it! Serena was probably too much into the match and didn't notice. And just because Justine beat Serena, doesn't mean that you guys have to be upset with Justine. I saw the match and even though it was wrong of Serena to serve despite Justine not being ready, it was NOT A BIG DEAL. :rolleyes:

Allez-H
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:11 PM
Ok, so Serena made a mistake and served even if Justine had raised her hand, but get over it! Serena was probably too much into the match and didn't notice. And just because Justine beat Serena, doesn't mean that you guys have to be upset with Justine. I saw the match and even though it was wrong of Serena to serve despite Justine not being ready, it was NOT A BIG DEAL. :rolleyes:
I know you mean it good but stop please.Haters are gonna come up again,and it will be bash,bash,bash again.

Hope you understand :)

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:13 PM
and people on this board claim only Williams fans can't get over the hand incident...:lol:

*gets some Soda to wash the popcorn down* :p

fan911
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:15 PM
I know you mean it good but stop please.Haters are gonna come up again,and it will be bash,bash,bash again.

Hope you understand :)

I'm defending both Serena and Justine. Serena most likely didn't notice Justine's hand, or probably by the time she noticed it was too late since she was already doing her service motion. So it's NOT her fault. And just because Justine ended up winning the match doesn't mean that she doesn't have the right to raise her hand if she's not ready to play. So it's NOT her fault either. So I'm stopping the bashing of both players.

Allez-H
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:18 PM
I'm defending both Serena and Justine. Serena most likely didn't notice Justine's hand, or probably by the time she noticed it was too late since she was already doing her service motion. So it's NOT her fault. And just because Justine ended up winning the match doesn't mean that she doesn't have the right to raise her hand if she's not ready to play. So it's NOT her fault either. So I'm stopping the bashing of both players.
Like I said:I'm sure you mean it good and I'm sure you want to stop the bashing (like so many others want too) but it's isn't going to work on this board.I can assure you...But you can always try ;)

Hulet
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Why the heck does it matter that much? People always raise their hands if they are not ready to serve! But Serena served anyways disrespecting Justine. And somehow everyone turned against Justine because she won. Anyways I think this incident was overblown. Justine won because she fought very well.
"hand", "blown", "served" on the same post with Justine and Serena :eek: - move over, Rocketta, and pass the popcorn bag too. I don't want to miss this R-rated encounter.

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:21 PM
I'm defending both Serena and Justine. Serena most likely didn't notice Justine's hand, or probably by the time she noticed it was too late since she was already doing her service motion. So it's NOT her fault. And just because Justine ended up winning the match doesn't mean that she doesn't have the right to raise her hand if she's not ready to play. So it's NOT her fault either. So I'm stopping the bashing of both players.
That's an interesting theory.. Stopping bashing by creating an environment to have bashing so then you can stop it. :scratch: Genius Really. :)

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:23 PM
"hand", "blown", "served" on the same post with Justine and Serena :eek: - move over, Rocketta, and pass the popcorn bag too. I don't want to miss this R-rated encounter.
*passes Eta some popcorn and asks if he wants some soda? I have Diet Coke with Lime. :wavey: *

fan911
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:24 PM
That's an interesting theory.. Stopping bashing by creating an environment to have bashing so then you can stop it. :scratch: Genius Really. :)

I'm not creating anything. I just read the thread about favorite/least favorite players, and everyone naming Justine mentionned this stupid incident which was caused by Serena in the first place. I've seen the tape many times and Justine raised her hand because she was not ready but Serena probably didn't notice and served anyways. Just because justine ended up winning the match doesnt' mean that she does not have the right to raise her hand if she's not ready. It's part of tennis rules. Leave her alone.

babolat-blast
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:24 PM
I had a lot of respect for Justine, untill the hand incident... I don't know, don't like that unfairness. She's even admitted that she has done it, so... But anyway, I still respect her, but before I found it hard to chose between Clijsters and Henin. But since then, my decision is made. I really don't mean anything bad or so with my post. I think everybody can post his opinion in a respectful away. I tried to do so.

Hulet
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:26 PM
*Munchs popcorn loudly - stares down people trying to quiet him down*
*No to diet coke, Yes to root beer - Do you have barqs?*

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I'm not creating anything. I just read the thread about favorite/least favorite players, and everyone naming Justine mentionned this stupid incident which was caused by Serena in the first place. I've seen the tape many times and Justine raised her hand because she was not ready but Serena probably didn't notice and served anyways. Just because justine ended up winning the match doesnt' mean that she does not have the right to raise her hand if she's not ready. It's part of tennis rules. Leave her alone.
and you felt that you couldn't post your Noble Peace winning prize of a post in that thread? You know the thread containing the Justine/French/Hand incident posts. You felt we needed one more thread to hopefully get it straight, huh? OK! We'll see! :wavey:

Allez-H
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I had a lot of respect for Justine, untill the hand incident... I don't know, don't like that unfairness. She's even admitted that she has done it, so... But anyway, I still respect her, but before I found it hard to chose between Clijsters and Henin. But since then, my decision is made. I really don't mean anything bad or so with my post. I think everybody can post his opinion in a respectful away. I tried to do so.
Well,it would be even worse if she denied it,don't ya think?
Offcourse everyone has their opinion,I probably felt the same way after Kim's comments in San Diego and the dopinginsuations after the USO.

bandabou
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:29 PM
It donīt matter anymore...but ONLY ONE person was disrespectful that day: Justine and no one else.

Allez-H
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:31 PM
It donīt matter anymore...but ONLY ONE person was disrespectful that day: Justine and no one else.
Just like Serena was disrespectful after she called Emilie Loit a f*cking bitch after she made a nice point.But I don't hear anyone complaining :shrug:

fleemkeģ
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:31 PM
:yawn:

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:32 PM
*Munchs popcorn loudly - stares down people trying to quiet him down*
*No to diet coke, Yes to root beer - Do you have barqs?**ketta checks her fridge and the closest she has is Dr. Pepper...:shrugs: Offers eta psi a brownie? ;)

However, Rocketta sees the error of her ways and says Rock on Fan with your dream and KEEP HOPE ALIVE! :rocker: *

Justineladivine
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:33 PM
OMG here we go again. So long everyone I'll stick to other threads.

PS Allezjuju's right whatever your intention was, fan911, you've opened up Pandora's box again. So flee everybody while it's still time...

babolat-blast
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:34 PM
It donīt matter anymore...but ONLY ONE person was disrespectful that day: Justine and no one else.

don't forget the crowd! It's actually still one of my fav matches ever. For us Belgians, this was really sensational, you know. It was just like a FedCup match. But I admit, it must 've been a though time for Serena. I really hope we'll see Serena and Justine in the final sunday!

shap_half
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:34 PM
Just like Serena was disrespectful after she called Emilie Loit a f*cking bitch after she made a nice point.But I don't hear anyone complaining :shrug:

really? girl lemme know!

graf630
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:40 PM
It is not so much putting the hand up, (which Serena probably did not see) but it is the FACT she denied doing it, to the chair umpire when asked. Then things just snowballed from there. Her coaches' comments, stating basicly because it was a Williams she did it. Then her comments about how her and Kim have never been friends,I am sure hurt her somewhat. (I am sure it hurt Kim's feelings when it was said,and it was something that really did not need to be made public ) Then her 'helping' the chair umpire call a ball out at the Australian,when it was in.(see Tennis Mag.May issue) I am sure this has not helped her reputation. I personally love her game. It is beautiful to watch. But I have lost alot of respect for her because of her poor sportsmanship.

Shuji Shuriken
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:42 PM
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bandabou
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Just like Serena was disrespectful after she called Emilie Loit a f*cking bitch after she made a nice point.But I don't hear anyone complaining :shrug:

Wow!! Nice comparison....

bandabou
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Just like Serena was disrespectful after she called Emilie Loit a f*cking bitch after she made a nice point.But I don't hear anyone complaining :shrug:

You mean just like Justine creams not only Allez, but come on also when her opponent dfīs for her to win the game?!

shap_half
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:45 PM
It is not so much putting the hand up, (which Serena probably did not see) but it is the FACT she denied doing it, to the chair umpire when asked. Then things just snowballed from there. Her coaches' comments, stating basicly because it was a Williams she did it. Then her comments about how her and Kim have never been friends,I am sure hurt her somewhat. (I am sure it hurt Kim's feelings when it was said,and it was something that really did not need to be made public ) Then her 'helping' the chair umpire call a ball out at the Australian,when it was in.(see Tennis Mag.May issue) I am sure this has not helped her reputation. I personally love her game. It is beautiful to watch. But I have lost alot of respect for her because of her poor sportsmanship.

Helping? C'mon, people call balls out all the time. The fact that it was that close, what did you expect her to do?

Sometimes, people say some of the most idiotic things.

shap_half
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:47 PM
You mean just like Justine creams not only Allez, but come on also when her opponent dfīs for her to win the game?!


You wanna talk about that. When Serena broke Justine in the 8th game of the second set at RG (when Serena went up 5-3), Serena screamed so loud, I heard it in jersey. She screamed c'mon sooo loud when Justine's ball went long.

I don't care if people scream. It's not like their cheering their opponent's mistake but I think they are cheering their own fortunes. I think that it's ok. I would do it. But I don't think it's ok for you to point shit out that Serena herself do.

Rocketta
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:51 PM
*crunch* *crunch*

Just_Love
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:51 PM
You wanna talk about that. When Serena broke Justine in the 8th game of the second set at RG (when Serena went up 5-3), Serena screamed so loud, I heard it in jersey. She screamed c'mon sooo loud when Justine's ball went long.

I don't care if people scream. It's not like their cheering their opponent's mistake but I think they are cheering their own fortunes. I think that it's ok. I would do it. But I don't think it's ok for you to point shit out that Serena herself do.
You give some, you take some:) i dont care either way, they are not my favourite players. Too bad nobody talked about the bad call against Kim in Australian Open this year.

LindsayRocks89
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:52 PM
here we go again.....................

graf630
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:54 PM
It is not Justines call. In or out it is up to the chair umpire. Yes Justine helped make the call. It was called good by the linesman but with some persuasion from Justine,the chair umpire called it out. Were you watching the same match as I was? And keep your name calling to yourself. I have a right to my opinion as do you. There is no need to put anyone down.

justine&coria
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:55 PM
I'm gonna ask the Justine's fans something : please, don't post here, even if very bad things are said about Justine. The hand's incident is something that happened last year, and was enough discussed.
Let's show that we, Justine fans, can be as smart as Justine is on a court ! :)

shap_half
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:56 PM
It is not Justines call. In or out it is up to the chair umpire. Yes Justine helped make the call. It was called good by the linesman but with some persuasion from Justine,the chair umpire called it out. Were you watching the same match as I was? And keep your name calling to yourself. I have a right to my opinion as do you. There is no need to put anyone down.

I didn't call you anything. I said what you said was idiotic. Justine can call as many balls out as she want. Just like anyone else can. Kim could have called every single ball that landed on the line out, and that doesn't mean the chair would agree with her. Did you see how close that ball was? If she really thought it was out, she's going to call it out. From where she was standing the ball probably looked out and she called out. Sometimes the chair agrees sometimes they don't.

bandabou
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:57 PM
You wanna talk about that. When Serena broke Justine in the 8th game of the second set at RG (when Serena went up 5-3), Serena screamed so loud, I heard it in jersey. She screamed c'mon sooo loud when Justine's ball went long.

I don't care if people scream. It's not like their cheering their opponent's mistake but I think they are cheering their own fortunes. I think that it's ok. I would do it. But I don't think it's ok for you to point shit out that Serena herself do.

you heard it in Jersey?! Well, it was pretty understandable...īcause she was already down..and an error isnīt a df.

shap_half
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:58 PM
you heard it in Jersey?! Well, it was pretty understandable...īcause she was already down..and an error isnīt a df.

what?

whatever...

Allez-H
Apr 8th, 2004, 06:59 PM
You mean just like Justine creams not only Allez, but come on also when her opponent dfīs for her to win the game?!
ow yeah,allez and come on are the same as 'fuck you bitch' :rolleyes:
Atleast Justines applauds her opponents if they make a nice point.

Just_Love
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:01 PM
ow yeah,allez and come on are the same as 'fuck you bitch' :rolleyes:
Atleast Justines applauds her opponents if they make a nice point.
well said:)

Ballbuster
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:04 PM
I had a lot of respect for Justine, untill the hand incident... I don't know, don't like that unfairness. She's even admitted that she has done it, so... But anyway, I still respect her, but before I found it hard to chose between Clijsters and Henin. But since then, my decision is made. I really don't mean anything bad or so with my post. I think everybody can post his opinion in a respectful away. I tried to do so.

I suspect MOST of the WORLD believes with this post. They like her until the hand incident exposed her true character.

Good!

"Thou shall not cheat thy neighbor"

azza
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:05 PM
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

pav
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:06 PM
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A blowjob would have to be better than a Hand job,or popcorn,oops, don't say that word! and better than the cow I've got to catch soon, its got a tongue like a bloody rasp!

faste5683
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Ok, so Serena made a mistake and served even if Justine had raised her hand, but get over it! Serena was probably too much into the match and didn't notice. And just because Justine beat Serena, doesn't mean that you guys have to be upset with Justine. I saw the match and even though it was wrong of Serena to serve despite Justine not being ready, it was NOT A BIG DEAL. :rolleyes:

I agree! We shouldn't hold Serena responsible for a lack of concentration: it was a big match for her....

:wavey:

space_eef03
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:26 PM
I Don't give a damn about the hand incident, but I just don't think Justine is very sympha. The only times she can smile is when she wins. Kim even smiles after losing a GS-finale. Still when Ju is playing I supporter her (after Maggie and Kim), after all she's Belgium's number 1.

griffin
Apr 8th, 2004, 07:33 PM
"genuine concern incident was/is over blown" or "genuine A+ effort to get people fighting"

Hmmm....