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tennischick
Apr 5th, 2004, 12:54 AM
Justine would win.

Yes it's good to see Serena back and it's terrific that after such a long lay-off she came back and won a tourny with a weak field. it's good to see her winning again. but i gotta admit that she is no where near her best form.

right now Justine is fitter, lighter on her feet, and more confident in her game. i give her the edge in any head-to-head that happens within the next few weeks. after that let's see. :wavey:

Black Mamba.
Apr 5th, 2004, 01:07 AM
Your probably right, but don't count out Serena with her warrior spirit and her fight. She may not win, but she'll sure make Henin take it. Henin is a very good player who has dominated the tour all year, the pressure is on her to win the tournement, and I guess will just wait to see if she can win it. If she wins thats great or if Serena wins thats great too.

Seenus
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:35 AM
why do you think justine will not be in the final?

- L i n a -
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:48 AM
Prepare for insults, and negative reps.

Leo_DFP
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:50 AM
You're probably right. I think Justine would be too consistent for Serena and would be able to wear her down. But neither player has reached the final yet and they both have strong opposition before they make it that far.

DemWilliamsGulls
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:57 AM
I guess only time will tell...Serena was pretty impressive being that she was out for 8 months. Dementieva had beated justine not too long ago...and Serena practically steamrolled her this weekend. It would be close...if Justine beat her...she wouldn't beat her in str8 sets and it would be very close....

"Topaz"
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:08 AM
Justine would win.How can anyone be so sure, unless you're a God/dess? :angel:

VRULES
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:09 AM
I think Serena would lose in one tight set, and a relatively easy one. I think she could have a shot at Charleston, but not next week.

Martian KC
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:15 AM
All hail TC!^_^:worship:;)

Andy_
Apr 5th, 2004, 08:50 AM
Justine would win.

Yes it's good to see Serena back and it's terrific that after such a long lay-off she came back and won a tourny with a weak field. it's good to see her winning again. but i gotta admit that she is no where near her best form.

right now Justine is fitter, lighter on her feet, and more confident in her game. i give her the edge in any head-to-head that happens within the next few weeks. after that let's see. :wavey:
I think you're right when you say that Serena still has some work to do, to get back to the form she had one year ago... Still, I don't think we can totally count her out because one quality she has without a doubt is the ability to raise the level of her game when it becomes necessary, when she faces a tougher opponent... As a matter of fact when your opponent can't hold serve ONE single time in a Tier I final... well, you can do with a slightly lower level of game ;)

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 09:00 AM
But then again, so were people saying of her come-back at Nasdaq too...she ainīt winning, this and that. Guess what happened?!

A4
Apr 5th, 2004, 09:08 AM
Hopefully, Serena wins.

Glenn
Apr 5th, 2004, 09:09 AM
It should be a great match.

Jackson.
Apr 5th, 2004, 09:11 AM
Justine will win
The only real ''top'' player Serena beat in Miami was Elena, can she beat several top players to win Amelia Island? Nadia, Lindsay, Justine ;)
She could reach the final, but Justine on clay... too strong ;)

space_eef03
Apr 5th, 2004, 09:38 AM
Very right.
Go juju!!!!!
Justine will win
The only real ''top'' player Serena beat in Miami was Elena, can she beat several top players to win Amelia Island? Nadia, Lindsay, Justine ;)
She could reach the final, but Justine on clay... too strong ;)

azza
Apr 5th, 2004, 10:10 AM
Hopefully Sabine Applmens wins

GoGoMaggie
Apr 5th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Hopefully Sabine Applmens wins
I don't know why but somehow I find this post of yourse quite amuxing...:kiss:

space_eef03
Apr 5th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Hopefully Sabine Applmens wins
That's also possible! :D

SJW
Apr 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM
Justine would win.
you're right

there is no way that Serena Williams should come back and beat the world #1 and queen of clay this week. it just shouldn't happen, and if it does, something's wrong

but hopefully, i'm wrong :)

tennischick
Apr 5th, 2004, 11:14 AM
How can anyone be so sure, unless you're a God/dess? :angel:because i am one. bow down pleb...:p :angel: :p

for the record (and for those who read more into my opening than i actually said), i never said that Justine would steam-roll Serena. of course Serena would put up a vicious screaming fight. but Justine is currently closer to her best form than Serena is to hers. and like i said, i'm referring specifically to the upcoming few weeks -- enough time for Serena to get closer to her better form. then we'll see. but for now i give Justine the edge in any imminent head-to-heads.

tennischick
Apr 5th, 2004, 11:21 AM
But then again, so were people saying of her come-back at Nasdaq too...she ainīt winning, this and that. Guess what happened?!guess what/ i never said that about Miami bec i knew that Justine wasn't there. perhaps Carlos wanted to observe Serena and see exactly where she was at. now he knows. :p

now i know too -- and i know that as terrific as she is, the 8-month lay-off has naturally taken a toll and Serena is not YET back to the level of which she is capable. and i expect Justine to be able to take full advantage of this.

for the record, i am not a Justine fan. but that does not prevent me from admitting the truth that she has worked very hard to get herself into top shape and is currently in terrific form.

Kim by the way is a head-case so she doesn't count IMHO.

GoGoMaggie
Apr 5th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Hopefully Sabine Applmens wins
Byt he way azza you have never spelled a player's name right.

Vass22
Apr 5th, 2004, 12:04 PM
I think that Justine will win in two tight sets, of three sets, with two easy ones.

V&SGotItGoingOn
Apr 5th, 2004, 12:14 PM
Serena shouldn't be able to come back and beat Justine, after such a short time, but I am not going to even worry about that yet. Before Serena makes the final of this tournament, she has to play some other tough players, so I am going to worry about those rounds first!

spike83
Apr 5th, 2004, 12:26 PM
Serena would win, because the "rust" she shook off already at Key Biscane. The way she trashed Elena (WTA 6) that was some kind of performance,
Serena is definetely back on track!

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Not gonna be easy, thatīs for sure. As long as Serena has that God given serve, sheīs gonna be in any match.

Volcana
Apr 5th, 2004, 01:07 PM
In the parlance, this is a 'house money' tournament for Serena. She just won Miami, proving 'she's back'. Yet it's on green clay, certainly not her best surface, and it is her second tournament back. So if Serena plays Justine and loses, 'it's the surface', 'it's the long lay-off', 'it was a full moon', 'Justine cheated', whatever.

If Serena plays Justine and wins, it's all 'Justine only racked up all those titles cause Serena was out', conveniently forgetting last year's RG final.

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 01:20 PM
Nou, nou Volcana.... no one would be surprised to see Justine beat Serena this week. This is clay and so far her only wins against Serena have been on clay. Now the day that she beats Serena on a non-clay surface, THAT day would be cause for concern..

DA FOREHAND
Apr 5th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Justine would win.

Yes it's good to see Serena back and it's terrific that after such a long lay-off she came back and won a tourny with a weak field. it's good to see her winning again. but i gotta admit that she is no where near her best form.

right now Justine is fitter, lighter on her feet, and more confident in her game. i give her the edge in any head-to-head that happens within the next few weeks. after that let's see. :wavey:


I think you're right...justin is lighter on her feet...Serena is taller and weighs more.

"Sluggy"
Apr 5th, 2004, 02:03 PM
yeah id have to give Justine the edge. not saying that she has more 'natural ability' - just at this point and time id have to give justine the edge.

power26
Apr 5th, 2004, 02:11 PM
WHATTTTTT JUSTINE WOULD MAKE IT TO THE FINALS??? :lol: :lol: :

Experimentee
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:28 PM
I think if they met next week, Justine would have the edge too. Serena was just i nthe final of Miami and its hard to make a transition from hardcourt to clay in such a short period, while still improving your tennis. Justine on the other hand skipped Miami to prepare for this tournament, and obviously she wants to win it a lot. So she'll have the edge in preparation, and also because Serena is still making her comeback from injury.

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:48 PM
WHATTTTTT JUSTINE WOULD MAKE IT TO THE FINALS??? :lol: :lol: :
:rolls: :haha: :clap2: :bigclap: GO NA!!!:bounce:

caramel
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Let me just completely the sentence...

If Justine and Serena were to meet next week ...
...Justine would get her bootay kicked.
:devil:

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:12 PM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:15 PM
I guess will just have to wait and see...

Not only a year older, but wiser too I see! ;)

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Not only a year older, but wiser too I see! ;)
What are you talkig about BAND?I've always been wise... :p

Averylove
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:20 PM
Serena is gonna Kill Justine On Clay and everybody else for that Matter what ya'll Fail to see because most of ya'll are Blind period is the heart of a champion!
Serena is the threat bar none !

Serena 6-4,-60 <------ thats the score and don't you forget it !

Justine's gravey train is over she will be relagated to the back pages of Tennis once serena wins the French Open this year !

They Fail to see The spirit of Serena on the court That is what makes them Blind !;)

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:22 PM
What are you talkig about BAND?I've always been wise... :p

:lol: I know..

lilly
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:24 PM
Justine's gravey train ... that's hilarious! :imagining Justine pulling a kart full of gravey and filling poor children's cups:

Real nice btw for ruining it for everyone by telling the score already, o mighty Averylove!

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Serena is gonna Kill Justine On Clay and everybody else for that Matter what ya'll Fail to see because most of ya'll are Blind period is the heart of a champion!
Serena is the threat bar none !

Serena 6-4,-60 <------ thats the score and don't you forget it !

Justine's gravey train is over she will be relagated to the back pages of Tennis once serena wins the French Open this year !

They Fail to see The spirit of Serena on the court That is what makes them Blind !;)
I suppose that you didn't get a year older today,didn't you? :p

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:27 PM
:lol: I know..
OMG are you actually doubting my wisdom???????????,
I surely hope not.

Seenus
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:39 PM
In the parlance, this is a 'house money' tournament for Serena. She just won Miami, proving 'she's back'. Yet it's on green clay, certainly not her best surface, and it is her second tournament back. So if Serena plays Justine and loses, 'it's the surface', 'it's the long lay-off', 'it was a full moon', 'Justine cheated', whatever.

If Serena plays Justine and wins, it's all 'Justine only racked up all those titles cause Serena was out', conveniently forgetting last year's RG final.

or whatever happens, Serena will win the spin! Call me crazy but i don't believe that justine would have racked up all those titles if Serena was in.

ace4lleykim
Apr 5th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Let's see if they make it to the final. Coz this time, many top players are competing.

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:04 PM
People, people...I love Serena to death, but this is clay weīre talking about. She showed decent form during her first tournament, but we shouldnīt expect her to dominate on the clay too...clay brings everybody closer to each other in terms of match-ups. Serena at top form, Iīd pick her against anybody....but she still isnīt her old self. Her movement seems a bit slow to me and we donīt know about her stamina.... just glad that sheīs back and already has one title under her belt.

cheo23
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:16 PM
HMMMMM..My Opinion..is Justine just overpowers Serena if they were to meet On Clay...Because for the Record Justine leads on clay 3-1...so I think the score if they were to play in the Final which is impossible is 6-2 6-3 for Justine..obviously Justine is the Queen of the Clay..she can slice, hit topspin, drop shot and all the variety to win on the Clay..the Clay is Yours.

"Topaz"
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:17 PM
because i am one. bow down pleb...:p :angel: :p

for the record (and for those who read more into my opening than i actually said), i never said that Justine would steam-roll Serena. of course Serena would put up a vicious screaming fight. but Justine is currently closer to her best form than Serena is to hers. and like i said, i'm referring specifically to the upcoming few weeks -- enough time for Serena to get closer to her better form. then we'll see. but for now i give Justine the edge in any imminent head-to-heads.Now I see. You're not exactly a Goddess, but just a version of Agrippina. Ok! ...We, modern plebeians, like good logic, not dicta. Your initial post would have flowed pretty well if you didn't start it with "Justine would win". Now I realize this was done for impact. And impact you got.

Does Serena really need to be in top shape to beat Justine even on clay? I'm not sure. Yet giving Justine a slight edge on the win probability scale is okay with me by any means. :kiss: :p :kiss:

flyingmachine
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Serena vs Justine can't wait. :drool: I hope Justine will win it. :drool:

Volcana
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:27 PM
Nou, nou Volcana.... no one would be surprised to see Justine beat Serena this week. This is clay and so far her only wins against Serena have been on clay. Now the day that she beats Serena on a non-clay surface, THAT day would be cause for concern..Ah hell, I'm a cynic.

Truthfully, I suspect they are both preparing extra carefully this week, making sure not to overlook any opponent or detail. They both know that if they play in the final the winner becomes 'The Best Female Player In The World' in the eyes of 90% of the sport, no matter what the rankings say. the surface is tough for Serena but she's the 'challenger' in this scenario. The 'champion' should be accorded choice of surface, at the least.

You see, truly clever leadership at the top of the WTA would have called Justine three weeks ago to let her know that skipping Miami was no big deal. Serena is the only top ten player Justine hasn't trounced since Wimbledon. Having her win Miami puts some Justine vs Serena drama in motion. If you're the WTA, why not soften up the field for her? Because it's illegal, dishonest and dishonorable, but that aside, creative leadership would act to ensure that the spring can be spun as more than target practice for Henin-Hardenne. No matter what happens on clay, we'll always have Miami. :hearts:

Having Serena beat Justine this week would end all debate on who was the better player. Haven't we had enough boredom? Now consider the possibilitites of having Serena lose 7-5 in third, preferably with Justine having a point deducted for cheating, and Serena being victmized by a couple REALLY bad line calls.

Ah, but the absence of 'creative leadership' in the WTA rends any hope of such a scenario.

In any other individual sport, they'd be trying to buy TV time right now. This is made in heaven.

'The old champion, out with injury, returns in devastating form. The new champion, who beat the old champion BEFORE the injury, is simply dominating.

It's archetypal, it's so good.

But it's better than that. The 'old' champion is Serena Williams.

Part-Time tennis player. Full-time entertainer. Movies, TV, music videos, commercials, Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. On the list for every 'A-list' party in Hollywood, and oh yeah, I play a little tennis too. Wonder Woman.

Who just ANNOUNCED her return.

The 'new' champion is Justine Henin-Hardenne, undisputed #1, and completely unchallenged in the healthy top ten. The current darling of the 'finesse-mongers'. Winner of three of the last for slams. A small player, when they said no small player would ever be #1 again. With players who uses incredible finesse, one shot of six or seven. The rest of the time she matches blistering pace with the best. Everything about Justine is spare except the size of her strokes. Nothing extra in the voice, body or need-for-approval departments. Her dedication, her coach and her husband have taken her to #1, she can take far more than her detractors can dish out. Her tennis ethics are questionable. Her will to win is not.

And she's a FULL-time player.

married vs single

Full-time vs Part-time

celebrity vs athlete

old vs new

USA vs 'Old Europe'

Entertainer vs competitor

Big vs small

Black vs White (the third rail of advertising in the USA)

Winners of the last SEVEN slams

Tradition vs new age

Now, with material like this to work with, 'creative leadership' should be able to create quite an ad campaign. Superiority won't truly be established til the US Open is over. LOT of material to work with.

Call me if you see any sign of such a Justine vs Serena ad campaign.

But don't hold your breathe.

Averylove
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:41 PM
Serena will Beat the Devil out of Justine :devil: and all this nonsense of Clay being her worst surface is pathetic to say the least !
Serena beat Justine on clay a couple of times and Didn't Serena win The French OPen ? duh? didn't Serena beat Justine at the Italian Open 2002? duh? didn't own her like a bitch in 2002 ? or anybody else for that matter ? duh
I been a Serena fan since 1997 and seen her rise like nobody else in Tennis including Venus ,so stop the nonsense and face reality 101 Serena owns Justine and You will find out this weekend just how much Justine game is weaker compared to Serena and Shout your damn mouth when I told you so and Serena :mad:

Serena is faster than Justine , Serena hits Harder than Justine , and its going to take more than a backhand to beat Serena aka" Ming The Mercless One !
And don't you forget it !:lol:

Allez-H
Apr 5th, 2004, 05:42 PM
I'm just really hoping that they'll both make the final and that they'll play a hell of a match.I wonna see some really matches,some real rivalries

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Ah hell, I'm a cynic.

Truthfully, I suspect they are both preparing extra carefully this week, making sure not to overlook any opponent or detail. They both know that if they play in the final the winner becomes 'The Best Female Player In The World' in the eyes of 90% of the sport, no matter what the rankings say. the surface is tough for Serena but she's the 'challenger' in this scenario. The 'champion' should be accorded choice of surface, at the least.

You see, truly clever leadership at the top of the WTA would have called Justine three weeks ago to let her know that skipping Miami was no big deal. Serena is the only top ten player Justine hasn't trounced since Wimbledon. Having her win Miami puts some Justine vs Serena drama in motion. If you're the WTA, why not soften up the field for her? Because it's illegal, dishonest and dishonorable, but that aside, creative leadership would act to ensure that the spring can be spun as more than target practice for Henin-Hardenne. No matter what happens on clay, we'll always have Miami. :hearts:

Having Serena beat Justine this week would end all debate on who was the better player. Haven't we had enough boredom? Now consider the possibilitites of having Serena lose 7-5 in third, preferably with Justine having a point deducted for cheating, and Serena being victmized by a couple REALLY bad line calls.

Ah, but the absence of 'creative leadership' in the WTA rends any hope of such a scenario.

In any other individual sport, they'd be trying to buy TV time right now. This is made in heaven.

'The old champion, out with injury, returns in devastating form. The new champion, who beat the old champion BEFORE the injury, is simply dominating.

It's archetypal, it's so good.

But it's better than that. The 'old' champion is Serena Williams.

Part-Time tennis player. Full-time entertainer. Movies, TV, music videos, commercials, Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. On the list for every 'A-list' party in Hollywood, and oh yeah, I play a little tennis too. Wonder Woman.

Who just ANNOUNCED her return.

The 'new' champion is Justine Henin-Hardenne, undisputed #1, and completely unchallenged in the healthy top ten. The current darling of the 'finesse-mongers'. Winner of three of the last for slams. A small player, when they said no small player would ever be #1 again. With players who uses incredible finesse, one shot of six or seven. The rest of the time she matches blistering pace with the best. Everything about Justine is spare except the size of her strokes. Nothing extra in the voice, body or need-for-approval departments. Her dedication, her coach and her husband have taken her to #1, she can take far more than her detractors can dish out. Her tennis ethics are questionable. Her will to win is not.

And she's a FULL-time player.

married vs single

Full-time vs Part-time

celebrity vs athlete

old vs new

USA vs 'Old Europe'

Entertainer vs competitor

Big vs small

Black vs White (the third rail of advertising in the USA)

Winners of the last SEVEN slams

Tradition vs new age

Now, with material like this to work with, 'creative leadership' should be able to create quite an ad campaign. Superiority won't truly be established til the US Open is over. LOT of material to work with.

Call me if you see any sign of such a Justine vs Serena ad campaign.

But don't hold your breathe.

Man, someone really got the flair for the dramatic!!

Hulet
Apr 5th, 2004, 07:20 PM
I don't presume to know who will win the match if those two meet in the final, but I could guess how the conversation would go if Justine and Serena were to meet in a dark alley somewhere all by their lonesome:

Serena: You're a lying and fabricating cheat!
Justine: For sure.

<and fun ensues>

bandabou
Apr 5th, 2004, 07:56 PM
I don't presume to know who will win the match if those two meet in the final, but I could guess how the conversation would go if Justine and Serena were to meet in a dark alley somewhere all by their lonesome:

Serena: You're a lying and fabricating cheat!
Justine: For sure.

<and fun ensues>

And let the fireworks begin! :lol: :devil:

Serendy Willick
Apr 5th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Justine would win.

Yes it's good to see Serena back and it's terrific that after such a long lay-off she came back and won a tourny with a weak field. it's good to see her winning again. but i gotta admit that she is no where near her best form.

right now Justine is fitter, lighter on her feet, and more confident in her game. i give her the edge in any head-to-head that happens within the next few weeks. after that let's see. :wavey:

I wouldnt.
Considering Cheater has been benifiting from weak fields for nine months straight. I'd say that they are in the same boat.:rolleyes:

tennischick
Apr 5th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Now I see. You're not exactly a Goddess, but just a version of Agrippina. Ok! ...We, modern plebeians, like good logic, not dicta. Your initial post would have flowed pretty well if you didn't start it with "Justine would win". Now I realize this was done for impact. And impact you got.

Does Serena really need to be in top shape to beat Justine even on clay? I'm not sure. Yet giving Justine a slight edge on the win probability scale is okay with me by any means. :kiss: :p :kiss:Agrippina here :kiss:
i wasn't actually going for impact -- altho' you'd think so from all the nasty negative reps i have since gotten. but i do think that Justine will win any imminent match-ups. maybe i'm just preparing myself for the heartbreak of Serena losing to Justine. but despite the scoreline against Elena, and despite the fact that she spanked a whole bunch of people to get to the Miami finals, i didn't see the Serena of yore. not yet. she still has the fighting spirit and the will to win but her game has dropped a notch. i expect The Hand to be able to take advantage of that over the next few weeks or so. after that i fully expect Serena to put her back in her place...:devil:

"Topaz"
Apr 5th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Agrippina here :kiss:
...
...
i expect The Hand to be able to take advantage of that over the next few weeks or so. after that i fully expect Serena to put her back in her place...:devil:I suppose you did trip up some people. Here are some + rep points to repair damages caused by others. :cool: :kiss: :cool:

Averylove
Apr 6th, 2004, 12:20 AM
Serena is gonna Give Justine a can of Whip Ass this weekend and send the rest of the pretenders to the dog house for Life ! ;)

Serena is " Ming The Merceless One " and will always remember the embarasment at the French Open !
:mad:

faste5683
Apr 6th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Serena is gonna Give Justine a can of Whip Ass this weekend and send the rest of the pretenders to the dog house for Life ! ;)

Serena is " Ming The Merceless One " and will always remember the embarasment at the French Open !
:mad:

And Charleston? And Berlin?

:wavey:

mykarma
Apr 6th, 2004, 01:19 AM
And Charleston? And Berlin?

:wavey:
The pressure is on Justine to win. If Serena wins this tournament, Justine can forget being #1.

faste5683
Apr 6th, 2004, 01:36 AM
The pressure is on Justine to win. If Serena wins this tournament, Justine can forget being #1.

:eek:

If you say so...

:wavey:

Rub
Apr 6th, 2004, 03:52 AM
justine for sure! :bounce:

LucasArg
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:04 AM
I trust Serena and I believe she will win it all. :)

Nikola
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:45 AM
I don't think we'll see this final this week.

Matthew_Laker
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:52 AM
i reckon Justine would beat Serena 6-4 6-3

tennischick
Apr 6th, 2004, 12:38 PM
I suppose you did trip up some people. Here are some + rep points to repair damages caused by others. :cool: :kiss: :cool:gee, i wasn't fishing for points. honest...:angel: :kiss: :hearts:

actually, truly i don't care about these things. it was only bec a poster named Leenah predicted that i would get slaughtered that it occurred to me to check. lol!

Volcana:
i am surprised that Justine is being considered a "finesse" player. i don't think she is. also, ounce for ounce, Justine is almost as muscled as Serena. she's a smaller girl but her right hand is now (proportionately) a CLUB and her thighs are like TREE-TRUNKS. she has worked hard to transform her body into a compact mass of muscle.

honestly i am surprised that Justine gets off some of the winners that she does. i'm not referring to her matches against lesser players (ranked under 10) but against the likes of Davenport. i couldn't believe how easily she beat Davenport at Indian Wells. what was up with that? that's when it occurred to me that maybe Justine is better than i was giving her credit for.

i disagree with your characterizing her as a part-time player. she is a quarter-time wife -- and a full-time tennis player. how long did her honeymoon last again -- 15 mintes? :eek:

_KidmaN_
Apr 6th, 2004, 12:50 PM
what a match will be when they do final at amelia island. Hopefully i'm going to see that match :) little more chances still goes for justine ;)

Lady
Apr 6th, 2004, 12:55 PM
Not gonna be easy, thatīs for sure. As long as Serena has that God given serve, sheīs gonna be in any match.

Bandabou, please remember this line of yours, when you'll bash Andy Roddick again. :cool:

About the topic, I just hope Justine'll reach the final first. :drool: She has no easy draw! :cool:

pigam
Apr 6th, 2004, 01:32 PM
She has no easy draw! :cool:
Neither does Serena, so...

Veritas
Apr 6th, 2004, 01:38 PM
In the parlance, this is a 'house money' tournament for Serena. She just won Miami, proving 'she's back'. Yet it's on green clay, certainly not her best surface, and it is her second tournament back. So if Serena plays Justine and loses, 'it's the surface', 'it's the long lay-off', 'it was a full moon', 'Justine cheated', whatever.

If Serena plays Justine and wins, it's all 'Justine only racked up all those titles cause Serena was out', conveniently forgetting last year's RG final.

We should make a poll - see which scenario is the most popular.

bandabou
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:09 PM
gee, i wasn't fishing for points. honest...:angel: :kiss: :hearts:

actually, truly i don't care about these things. it was only bec a poster named Leenah predicted that i would get slaughtered that it occurred to me to check. lol!

Volcana:
i am surprised that Justine is being considered a "finesse" player. i don't think she is. also, ounce for ounce, Justine is almost as muscled as Serena. she's a smaller girl but her right hand is now (proportionately) a CLUB and her thighs are like TREE-TRUNKS. she has worked hard to transform her body into a compact mass of muscle.

honestly i am surprised that Justine gets off some of the winners that she does. i'm not referring to her matches against lesser players (ranked under 10) but against the likes of Davenport. i couldn't believe how easily she beat Davenport at Indian Wells. what was up with that? that's when it occurred to me that maybe Justine is better than i was giving her credit for.

i disagree with your characterizing her as a part-time player. she is a quarter-time wife -- and a full-time tennis player. how long did her honeymoon last again -- 15 mintes? :eek:

ssshh......Justine IS a finesse-player! Donīt you see it!? Every small girl is finesse!

bandabou
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:10 PM
Bandabou, please remember this line of yours, when you'll bash Andy Roddick again. :cool:

About the topic, I just hope Justine'll reach the final first. :drool: She has no easy draw! :cool:

You donīt really wanna compare Serena to Andy do you?!

Averylove
Apr 7th, 2004, 01:51 AM
Serena and the score is 6-0 6-1 and I give Justine One game because Serena don't want to make her cry to soon ! Justine can kiss her Number 1 ranking Goodbye :drool: Because "aka Ming The Merciless One " Serena is Hungry and will have Justine a mere Morsel as a snack LOL :lol: !

And Pitty to all you Sunday Morning Fans of Serena you have no Testicles
How dare you call yourself a Serena fan don't Go out on a Limb !:(
Serena will Beat the Belgin Bagel by a bagel and have Toast with Kimmie :devil:

VS Fan
Apr 7th, 2004, 02:03 AM
You have to remember that in 2002, in this SAME tourney, Venus LOST to Justine after two and two-thirds sets, (6-2, 4-0) then rallied to WIN in three sets.

Serena was down 5-1 in the third set vs Kim at the AO 2003, and STILL won!
NEVER underestimate a Williams!