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Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:39 PM
Just like yesterday he had to mention,while they were talking about Kim,that Justine flew to Dubai to play there (while Justine still didn't said a thing about competing there) while she withdrew from Antwerp.And again with huge sarcasme in his voice.I mean,seriously I officially hate the guy and the whole VRT aka Kimtv :mad:

Sarah<Kim-fan>
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:47 PM
oh, come on, just be happy they show tennis on belgian tv, it has been different a couple of years ago...

irma
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:47 PM
First VRT/ Canvas sucks, because why in the world would you show a tournament on tv and let the the topstars play in the evening (this never happened in germany when steffi played. or maybe in germany the tv has more influence)

I understand my you may sell more tickets in the evening but then show the match that time too and not 1,5 hours later :o

and the exaggerating tone in the commentating is very annoying too. they act like the world comes down after every point. excitement is good but this sounds sooooooooo fake :o

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:49 PM
oh, come on, just be happy they show tennis on belgian tv, it has been different a couple of years ago...
I'm happy that they show tennis on Belgian tv,but try to stay a little objective please :mad:

KV
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:56 PM
Must say the Euro sport commentator (Dutch one) has a much better analysing of the tennis game. I'd rather watch Eurosport than K.V's commentating. I prefer listen to the German/Dutch/English/French etc than the Belgian commentators because the Belgian commentators are all but neutral.

katrientje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:57 PM
he's annoying, it bugs me too...

bandabou
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:04 PM
:lol: Not many fans for mr. Van Niewkerke. Eurosport is much better than Vrt indeed. Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much Kimmy-worship going on and when they added the former coach for the Oz-final, then they went overboard.

Glenn
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:10 PM
Carl Maes (Kim's ex-coach) commentates every match broadcasted on VRT/Canvas.
No wonder it's all Kim... :rolleyes:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:11 PM
:lol: Not many fans for mr. Van Niewkerke. Eurosport is much better than Vrt indeed. Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much Kimmy-worship going on and when they added the former coach for the Oz-final, then they went overboard.
Yeah,that was the absolute sign that they were KIm-worshippers.And after matchpoint => :o It was as if somebody died,it was so quite that you could here them breath.They should be ashamed.If I'm right it was a Belgian that won,wasn't it?

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:14 PM
BTW:Karl just mentioned Justine's withdrawal AGAIN :rolleyes: This guy must be going for a worldrecord and a spot in the Guinnes World Recordbook

Glenn
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:18 PM
Also: When Kim was beating Justine all the time (beginning of 2003) they were laughing and saying: Will Justine ever win again?
And now when Justine owns Kim they keep supporting Kim and saying that she will bounce back. :rolleyes:

K&J fan
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:19 PM
Well, I don't have the slightest problem with KV, I think he's doing great :) but maybe I'm too objective ;)
But I definitely prefer Steven Martens above Carl Maes. There is some kind of humoristic chemistry between Steven and KV which is sometimes hilarious :lol:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:19 PM
NOw they mention that Justine might (but it's obvious that he's pretty sure about it) she withdrew because she was scared that she could lose to Kim.But he finally mention something good too:she did win 3 Slams,so she should get credit for that.

kr003
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:22 PM
count me in ! He's annoying that's why I prefer RTBF.

Cro-boy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:27 PM
I think the belgian journalists aren't good because They aren't objective. The flemish journalists particularly.

Filip!
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:31 PM
I hate him. I hate VRT! I hate Flemish press! And I say this as a Flemish-habitant!

Filip!
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:32 PM
:lol: Not many fans for mr. Van Niewkerke. Eurosport is much better than Vrt indeed. Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much Kimmy-worship going on and when they added the former coach for the Oz-final, then they went overboard.

Indeed! That was a real shame! Not objective at all!!! :mad:

irma
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:33 PM
bandabou the dutch commentators are not much better, but mister I hate the wta said this (or last) week that he had seen good women's tennis for three days already so maybe he improves :o

jdog3008
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:39 PM
Trying to pronounce his last name really pisses me off.

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:40 PM
If anybody has cats..post those picks now! :)

gentenaire
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:45 PM
alas, my cat died a few years ago

katrientje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:46 PM
If anybody has cats..post those picks now! :)
Maybe my babygirl will calm everyone down

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:47 PM
Well..if no cats, than post some J2H pics!

Here's one. She looks to be doing
a typical Nick Rhodes expression. :haha:





pic from Stassounette

DelMonte
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:48 PM
Maybe my babygirl will calm everyone down

OMG, she's adorable!

Wimanna
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:49 PM
La Deux great commenting too :D

alexusjonesfan
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:50 PM
Well..if no cats, than post some J2H pics!

Here's one. She looks to be doing her best to do
a typical Nick Rhodes expression. :haha:





pic from StassounetteI dunno about Nick Rhodes, looks to me like somebody's going to be dumped in the east river ;)

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:51 PM
Zippy's looks cool. Great. :)

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:52 PM
I dunno about Nick Rhodes, I'm thinking somebody's going to be dumped in the east river ;)


Who Papa C? ;)

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:54 PM
I need some feed back here. I've come up with 2 new songs for
the 80's listening lounge in the Dubai and Indian Wells thread for
the Justinator.

Grade it.

Cersei
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:58 PM
Maybe my babygirl will calm everyone down

awwwww what a cute cat :D :worship:

katrientje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:02 PM
awwwww what a cute cat :D :worship:
she says "thank you"
;)

stijntje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:06 PM
I totally agree...
Why complaining for a commentator when we have Kim and Justine to cheer for?!?
I think it's quite normal the dutch speeking commentators cheer for Kim... Or have you never seen tennis on LaDeux?!? They too keep talking about Justine, Justine, Justine...




Well, I don't have the slightest problem with KV, I think he's doing great :) but maybe I'm too objective ;)
But I definitely prefer Steven Martens above Carl Maes. There is some kind of humoristic chemistry between Steven and KV which is sometimes hilarious :lol:

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:11 PM
:haha:

Your all sooooooooo spoiled. It's not enough to have every single
match, exhibition televised live, plus all the just stepping out to the
supermarket and decided to give everyone an update on my daily
activities, here's a my new refrig magazine spread and the weekly
countdown of their "rankings" published on every newspaper in
the country.

Nemesis
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:14 PM
I hate him too :fiery: Not only because his "All mighy Kim with the steel legs from the mines in Limburg" worship, but also because of what his idiotic figurative language.

Twice I heard him make a "joke" about Leopoldsburg (a military domain in Flanders) this week.
First in one of Kim's matches when she hit a well disguised dropshot: "Does she stay in Antwerp or Leopoldburg" :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Then in Chladkova-Sprem. "Does she stay in Leopoldsburg or in Antwerp", about Chladkova because she has short hair -> military crew cut :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:16 PM
I hate him too :fiery: Not only because his "All mighy Kim with the steel legs from the mines in Limburg" worship, but also because of what his idiotic figurative language.

Twice I heard him make a "joke" about Leopoldsburg (a military domain in Flanders).
First in one of Kim's matches when she hit a well disguised dropshot: "Does she stay in Antwerp or Leopoldburg" :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Then in Chladkova-Sprem. "Does she stay in Leopoldsburg or in Antwerp", about Chladkova because she has short hair -> military crew cut :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



:haha:

"Steel legs from the mines in Limburg"?

:haha:


This is hilarious.

Joana
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:18 PM
Katreintje, your cat is adorable! :hearts:
My cat died last year... :sad:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:20 PM
Katreintje, your cat is adorable! :hearts:
My cat died last year... :sad:
I feel sad for you,mine died last year too :sad:

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:28 PM
So, where's the DUBAI pics? What's going on? Secret training in
the oasis?

Lien
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:31 PM
Instead of complaining on a tennisboard, write to the redaction or change the channel, watch Eurosport instead then. By the way, too many flemish keep on complaining about the VRT, while on La Deux for example it isn't much better, it is Justine worshipping.
You all make too much fuss about it, I live in a family full of Henin-fans, they don't complain about the commentators on the VRT.

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:54 PM
More cat pics. This thread needs more cat pics! ;)

lee station
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:59 PM
So, where's the DUBAI pics? What's going on? Secret training in
the oasis?In a bunker! :lol:

Greenout
Feb 22nd, 2004, 04:00 PM
In a bunker! :lol:



Hiding from all the rude WTAworld regulars. ;)

Maajken
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:16 PM
this is kinda hypocritical...when justine plays someone other than kim (or vice versa), the commentators aren't objective either, they also cheer for the belgian. i've never heard anyone complain about the lack of objectivity in those matches...

i guess the commentators just support those players they feel closest to, so when kim and justine play eachother, ladeux will praise justine and canvas will do the same for kim. and sadly enough, that's just the way it is.

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:27 PM
this is kinda hypocritical...when justine plays someone other than kim (or vice versa), the commentators aren't objective either, they also cheer for the belgian. i've never heard anyone complain about the lack of objectivity in those matches...

i guess the commentators just support those players they feel closest to, so when kim and justine play eachother, ladeux will praise justine and canvas will do the same for kim. and sadly enough, that's just the way it is.
Actually when Justine plays KIm,it's pretty obvious which side Canvas takes (I mean to let Carl Maes commentate the AO-final was wrong :o )While on RTBF they threat them equal.I even get the feeling sometimes that they support Kim more just to show the audience that they aren't pro-Justine,nor pro-Kim.I remember the RG-final,were the commentators were really getting annoyed towards the end and were really hoping Kim will finally make a match of it.

ans
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:38 PM
What's with all the cats?

Oh and Karl, don't worry, I still love ya.

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:52 PM
Actually when Justine plays KIm,it's pretty obvious which side Canvas takes.
While on RTBF they threat them equal.I even get the feeling sometimes that they support Kim more just to show the audience that they aren't pro-Justine,nor pro-Kim.

LMAO!!! :lol:

That's just TOTAL rubbish :D

Majo
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:57 PM
Actually when Justine plays KIm,it's pretty obvious which side Canvas takes (I mean to let Carl Maes commentate the AO-final was wrong :o )While on RTBF they threat them equal.I even get the feeling sometimes that they support Kim more just to show the audience that they aren't pro-Justine,nor pro-Kim.I remember the RG-final,were the commentators were really getting annoyed towards the end and were really hoping Kim will finally make a match of it.

And I guess our commentators were praying Justine would break an ankle or something like that? :rolleyes:

what are you mumbling about?

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:00 PM
I'm just saying the truth :rolleyes:
I'm not saying that RTBF are 100% objective but they sure are close.Everybody who says that RTBF is as subjective as Canvas are talking bullshit.

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:01 PM
I'm just saying the truth :rolleyes:
I'm not saying that RTBF are 100% objective but they sure are close.Everybody who says that RTBF is as subjective as Canvas are talking bullshit.
No girl, you're talking bullshit :kiss: :wavey:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:03 PM
No girl, you're talking bullshit :kiss: :wavey:
No,I think not :kiss:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:03 PM
Oops I forgot the :wavey:

ans
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:03 PM
Don't know about RTBF being subjective, but I don't like watching it. Those commentators are always speaking so loud and are so superenthusiastic. It makes me nervous.

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:04 PM
No,I think not :kiss:
I know you don't think, Shakespeare :p

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:06 PM
I know you don't think, Shakespeare :p
Wasn't Shakespeare a man :p

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:07 PM
Wasn't Shakespeare a man :p
Some people think he was but... :secret:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:08 PM
Some people think he was but... :secret:
Nooooooo?! :eek:

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:08 PM
Actually when Justine plays KIm,it's pretty obvious which side Canvas takes (I mean to let Carl Maes commentate the AO-final was wrong :o )While on RTBF they threat them equal.I even get the feeling sometimes that they support Kim more just to show the audience that they aren't pro-Justine,nor pro-Kim.I remember the RG-final,were the commentators were really getting annoyed towards the end and were really hoping Kim will finally make a match of it.
at least , the truth!!

There is something i don't like whith die-hard kim fans : whenever Justine get bashed in flemish papers, or when vrt is turning into kimTV, they feel like the only way to justify it, is saying that it is also how it happens the other way round ( kim in french speaking papers or tv ), which absolutely not true.
I have the same feeling than allezjuju : it seems like the commentators on LaDeux are prasing Kim more to show they aren't pro-Justine. I was very obvious in the AO final, when they started to get excited when kim made her come back.
Have you heard the co-commentators in kim matchs during the AO ( excpet in the final ) : it seemed like this guy felt in love with kim, couldn't stop saying how great she was, how amazing she was playing, ....

Majo
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:08 PM
Some people think he was but... :secret:


hmz... writing a thesis about him/her (:eek: ) if you know more about this issue, please contact me :p

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:10 PM
at least , the truth!!

There is something i don't like whith die-hard kim fans : whenever Justine get bashed in flemish papers, or when vrt is turning into kimTV, they feel like the only way to justify it, is saying that it is also how it happens the other way round ( kim in french speaking papers or tv ), which absolutely not true.
I have the same feeling than allezjuju : it seems like the commentators on LaDeux are prasing Kim more to show they aren't pro-Justine. I was very obvious in the AO final, when they started to get excited when kim made her come back.
Have you heard the co-commentators in kim matchs during the AO ( excpet in the final ) : it seemed like this guy felt in love with kim, couldn't stop saying how great she was, how amazing she was playing, ....
Actually she's Flemish :eek: I forgot her name,somebody help me please

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:13 PM
Actually she's Flemish :eek: I forgot her name,somebody help me please
that was a "he"

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:14 PM
that was a "he"
Oops sorry :o Iwas talking about somebody else

ans
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:16 PM
Poor Justine-fans. You're suffering so hard.:hug:

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:16 PM
Oops sorry :o Iwas talking about somebody else
Stéphanie Devilles ( or something like that) ?

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:17 PM
Poor Justine-fans. You're suffering so hard.:hug:
NO we aren't.We perfectly happy having her as our fav,she's amazing.One withdrawal isn't gonna tear us down.

turt
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:17 PM
Poor Justine-fans. You're suffering so hard.:hug:
Yeah, we're suffering so hard to be fan of the best player in the world :angel:

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:18 PM
Poor Justine-fans. You're suffering so hard.:hug:
Yeah, poor us :sad:

Fortunately, there are still GS victories to celebrate :tape:

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:18 PM
Stéphanie Devilles ( or something like that) ?
Yup,that's her :)

turt
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:20 PM
It's Stéphanie Devillé btw :wavey:

Elske
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:20 PM
NO we aren't.We perfectly happy having her as our fav,she's amazing.One withdrawal isn't gonna tear us down.
it does look like you guys are having your last death spasms :lol: :tape:

ans
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:22 PM
NO we aren't.We perfectly happy having her as our fav,she's amazing.One withdrawal isn't gonna tear us down.
Ok, great. Then stop the constant nagging.

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:25 PM
I got a question:were you guys happy with all the bad critisism KIm got by the media because of her choice about not plying the Olympics?

caafje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:29 PM
What bugs me most about Karl V is that he hardly knows a thing about tennis. He doesn't even know the difference between a WC and a qualifier, and he obviously doesn't follow the Junior Tour.
VRT could at least try to find someone who knows more about tennis than about cyclists' hemroids. That description doesn't fit Karl V.

kiekeboe
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:30 PM
I'm just saying the truth :rolleyes:
I'm not saying that RTBF are 100% objective but they sure are close.Everybody who says that RTBF is as subjective as Canvas are talking bullshit.

I totally agree!

I have to watch LaDeux or even Eurosport for good commentating!

I hate KVN(aka DenKaleKop) and VRT/Canvas (aka KimTv) :mad:
:fiery:
The worst part is they get more money from gouverement then RTBF! (And I am paying for KimTV!)

Allez-H
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:34 PM
What bugs me most about Karl V is that he hardly knows a thing about tennis. He doesn't even know the difference between a WC and a qualifier, and he obviously doesn't follow the Junior Tour.
VRT could at least try to find someone who knows more about tennis than about cyclists' hemroids. That description doesn't fit Karl V.
He should stick to cycling.

katrientje
Feb 22nd, 2004, 07:38 PM
I don't really have a problem that if K&J play eachother, the commentators support Kim more. I guess that's a bit normal working for Flemish tv.

but what annoys me is that they use every little thing they can find to bash Justine in the news, on teletext, when she isn't even playing. Why is that necessary? Like the piece on the "noah"-match, or just now, that Kim is sneering to Justine in her post match interview saying her throath was sore, while they really don't know if Kim had bad intentions there, the doping-insinuations, etc...
I don't mind them them prefering Kim but I do mind them disrespecting Justine.

Come-on-kim
Feb 22nd, 2004, 08:10 PM
at least , the truth!!

There is something i don't like whith die-hard kim fans : whenever Justine get bashed in flemish papers, or when vrt is turning into kimTV, they feel like the only way to justify it, is saying that it is also how it happens the other way round ( kim in french speaking papers or tv ), which absolutely not true.
I have the same feeling than allezjuju : it seems like the commentators on LaDeux are prasing Kim more to show they aren't pro-Justine. I was very obvious in the AO final, when they started to get excited when kim made her come back.
Have you heard the co-commentators in kim matchs during the AO ( excpet in the final ) : it seemed like this guy felt in love with kim, couldn't stop saying how great she was, how amazing she was playing, ....
That's so false :eek:

On La2 they are openly pro-Justine!!!! I'll always remember the RG final when they were saying to Justine (like if she can hear them :rolleyes: ) "don't do that Justine, that's not what you have to do to win against Kim" bla bla bla

BUT BUT, since this year.... I love watching RTBF because they are more neutral! For the Aussie Open, it was Olivier's old coach and he did great, he surely liked Kim a lot :yeah: And now it's Miss Stephanie Deville :bounce: She gives that flemish touch which I love :hearts:

Geoffry
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:14 PM
hmmm, a lot of anti Karl people

anyway, I still love his comentating

ans
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:17 PM
hmmm, a lot of anti Karl people

anyway, I still love his comentating
:bounce:

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:33 PM
That's so false :eek:

On La2 they are openly pro-Justine!!!! I'll always remember the RG final when they were saying to Justine (like if she can hear them :rolleyes: ) "don't do that Justine, that's not what you have to do to win against Kim" bla bla bla

Sure:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Once again Come-on-Kim doesn't mind posting lies just to "support" his opinion.

How surprising, really?:rolleyes:

( maybe they had a little "penchant" for justine in the beginning, but saying they are "openly" pro-Justine is ridiculous.........once again, coming from you, this isn't really surprising )

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:43 PM
Sure:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Once again Come-on-Kim doesn't mind posting lies just to "support" his opinion.

How surprising, really?:rolleyes:

( maybe they had a little "penchant" for justine in the beginning, but saying they are "openly" pro-Justine is ridiculous.........once again, coming from you, this isn't really surprising )
Hey it's his opinion. You have yours, he has his opinion...

Don't act as if you're the only one who's saying the truth & the other ones are all big fat liars, ok? :wavey:

minboy
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:51 PM
Hey it's his opinion. You have yours, he has his opinion...

Don't act as if you're the only one who's saying the truth & the other ones are all big fat liars, ok? :wavey:
No problem with someone having his own opinion, BUT BIG BIG problem with someone who feels he has to write craps to "support" his opinion.
In this case, i'm the one saying the truth. Call me "dikke nek" , pretentious, whatever.........i don't mind.

Maajken
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:52 PM
apparently both the justine and kim fans want to be treated as victims. "oh justine is always bashed by the flemish media" and "poor kimmie isn't praised enough on ladeux" blahblahblah. geez you guys! you should be thanking god on your bare knees that you get to see most of the matches they play! if you don't like the commentating, switch the channel or mute it! most people get to see their fave players only at GS, if they're lucky! get over yourselves please..

Brαm
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:55 PM
In this case, i'm the one saying the truth.

Please!

It's your opinion. There is no truth here! Everybody sees things the way they want to see it.

Come-on-kim
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:57 PM
Sure:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Once again Come-on-Kim doesn't mind posting lies just to "support" his opinion.

How surprising, really?:rolleyes:

( maybe they had a little "penchant" for justine in the beginning, but saying they are "openly" pro-Justine is ridiculous.........once again, coming from you, this isn't really surprising )
I can prove you it whenever you want! I have the tape with that sentence!!!!

Stop telling i am a liar because it's not true!! I say it once again, I have the tape in which they say so!!!

And like I said, now, it's better because of Stephanie she's flemish and so keeps down the french speaking comentators with their preferences

Come-on-kim
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:00 PM
apparently both the justine and kim fans want to be treated as victims. "oh justine is always bashed by the flemish media" and "poor kimmie isn't praised enough on ladeux" blahblahblah. geez you guys! you should be thanking god on your bare knees that you get to see most of the matches they play! if you don't like the commentating, switch the channel or mute it! most people get to see their fave players only at GS, if they're lucky! get over yourselves please..Hold on Babe :p

I never said I wasn't happy! Actually when La 2 gets me nuts (it did a lot last year) I was simply going on Eurosport or Canvas... As simple as that!

But I just pointed it out because minboy keeps on attacking flemish press while saying that on the french speaking part nothing like that happen which is false because they do the same (maybe less but they do it as well)

flyingmachine
Feb 23rd, 2004, 01:18 AM
It's sounds like the Belgium media are crap. :tape: To me the Belgium media is basicly all about flemish vs french reguardless of the subject its always flemish vs french xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx times it's worser than US media :eek: If you want true sports commenting sticks to Eurosports or just log on the BBC sports website. I'm now realised that I am very grated that I don't watch Belgium TV. ;)

azza
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:10 AM
Whos Karl :o

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 12:27 PM
Hold on Babe :p

I never said I wasn't happy! Actually when La 2 gets me nuts (it did a lot last year) I was simply going on Eurosport or Canvas... As simple as that!

But I just pointed it out because minboy keeps on attacking flemish press while saying that on the french speaking part nothing like that happen which is false because they do the same (maybe less but they do it as well)
Today's headline of La Derniere Heure ( since you like that newspapers ) :"kim, our pure diamond"
Really, they are being WAY TOO HARSH on kim :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 01:49 PM
I got a question:were you guys happy with all the bad critisism KIm got by the media because of her choice about not plying the Olympics?
No, but I didn't complain about it, just ignore it, if you have to react to every silly thing newspapers say you can stay on for quite a long time. Read quality newspapers :) .

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 01:54 PM
Yeah, poor us :sad:

Fortunately, there are still GS victories to celebrate :tape:
You all have the slams, so why keep on nagging and playing the victim. She all proved them wrong allready, so I don't see the point why you should keep on saying things like that.

Allez-H
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:05 PM
No, but I didn't complain about it, just ignore it, if you have to react to every silly thing newspapers say you can stay on for quite a long time. Read quality newspapers :) .
Yeah,but the thing is:they are overdoing it.Kim was really bashed by the Flemish media for her decision for about a week.After that it wasn't a major subject anymore.What they are doing to Juju is really over the line.We haave shut up far too long,we just want some justice.Justine is the badgirl right now,but I'm sure that if she were to win a gold medal this year she ain't going to be that bad anymore.

Cro-boy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:06 PM
Yeah,but the thing is:they are overdoing it.Kim was really bashed by the Flemish media for her decision for about a week.After that it wasn't a major subject anymore.What they are doing to Juju is really over the line.We haave shut up far too long,we just want some justice.Justine is the badgirl right now,but I'm sure that if she were to win a gold medal this year she ain't going to be that bad anymore.

I agree with you! :)

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:10 PM
Yeah,but the thing is:they are overdoing it.Kim was really bashed by the Flemish media for her decision for about a week.After that it wasn't a major subject anymore.What they are doing to Juju is really over the line.We haave shut up far too long,we just want some justice.Justine is the badgirl right now,but I'm sure that if she were to win a gold medal this year she ain't going to be that bad anymore.
It was longer than a week, even the Standaard opened a discussion about it. The 'hetse' around Justine won't even last that long, when she wins that Dubai-title, everything will be back in order.

Seriously i am not hoping for another all belgian final or even another Belgian GS-final, cause everything it brings up more trouble than something else (except the first GS )

Greenout
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:12 PM
Let's move on folks. It's DUBAI now. The Justinator wants to play
tennis with the big girls like Venus, jenn, and Serena- obviously not
Kim. Kim can win all the small tournaments she likes, and the local
Flemmish press can praise to high heavens; but on the end of the
day the results that will impress and make headlines around the globe
are wins over Serena, Jenn, LD and Venus or grand slam titles! :worship:

Allez-H
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:18 PM
It was longer than a week, even the Standaard opened a discussion about it. The 'hetse' around Justine won't even last that long, when she wins that Dubai-title, everything will be back in order.

Seriously i am not hoping for another all belgian final or even another Belgian GS-final, cause everything it brings up more trouble than something else (except the first GS )
That's the thing:when she wins she's a godess (except when she wins against Kim :rolleyes: ) when she loses or makes a decision like last week,she's the devil herself.I'm really hoping that Justine will play and win Dubai by beating the big-ones so that can she shut the mouth of those stupid idiots who dare to call themselves journalists/commentators :rolleyes:


Yallah Justine!!!!Prove those idiots wrong (again!)

alexusjonesfan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:26 PM
That's the thing:when she wins she's a godess (except when she wins against Kim :rolleyes: ) when she loses or makes a decision like last week,she's the devil herself.I'm really hoping that Justine will play and win Dubai by beating the big-ones so that can she shut the mouth of those stupid idiots who dare to call themselves journalists/commentators :rolleyes:


Yallah Justine!!!!Prove those idiots wrong (again!)If what you say is true, I don't think any more wins are going to sway this kind of press. If these journos still bash Justine (and Kim as well) over petty things, then they're obviously not influenced by results at all.

Greenout
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:35 PM
I thought we were going to drop this subject and talk about Dubai?
You never gave an opinion on the Duran Duran song up at the
Dubai thread?

alexusjonesfan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:42 PM
I thought we were going to drop this subject and talk about Dubai?
You never gave an opinion on the Duran Duran song up at the
Dubai thread?
sorry, got a little carried away...we need more cat pics :p

I liked the lyrics a lot, I've been trying to download it to see how the tune goes (you never really 'get' it until you know how the original was) so I'll give a more thorough review then ;)

The Crow
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:42 PM
Okay, fellow Justine fans, don't you dare try to get rid of Carl Maes as a commentator :mad: He's great: he knows certain interesting details abuot players, knows the game trough and though. And he's extremely funny. Yes of course he's subjective, but you know this in advance. It doesn't bother me in the sligtest.

:bounce: for Carl Maes

Allez-H
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:43 PM
OK,second attempt:
Allez,Come on,Vamos,Forza,Komaan,Yallah Justine!!!!!!!!!!!

rand
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:46 PM
Must say the Euro sport commentator (Dutch one) has a much better analysing of the tennis game. I'd rather watch Eurosport than K.V's commentating. I prefer listen to the German/Dutch/English/French etc than the Belgian commentators because the Belgian commentators are all but neutral.
that's because Karl is a CYCLING commentator and has to do the tennis because the vrt doesn't have anyone better, which is a pity...but hating karl? he's one of the most competent, maybe in Europe,when it comes down to cycling...so no, I actually like him....

Greenout
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:49 PM
sorry, got a little carried away...we need more cat pics :p

I liked the lyrics a lot, I've been trying to download it to see how the tune goes (you never really 'get' it until you know how the original was) so I'll give a more thorough review then ;)


Really? Most people aren't familiar with this song? It's
Duran Duran , Man! Come on! :p

rand
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:50 PM
Actually when Justine plays KIm,it's pretty obvious which side Canvas takes (I mean to let Carl Maes commentate the AO-final was wrong :o )While on RTBF they threat them equal.I even get the feeling sometimes that they support Kim more just to show the audience that they aren't pro-Justine,nor pro-Kim.I remember the RG-final,were the commentators were really getting annoyed towards the end and were really hoping Kim will finally make a match of it.that's not true....anyone saying that has obviously not seen the australian open final on the rtbf...they were more pro-henin than they were pro-Clijsters on canvas at the same time....

Allez-H
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:55 PM
OK,second attempt:
Allez,Come on,Vamos,Forza,Komaan,Yallah Justine!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok,this was my 1,000th post and I didn't realised it until now :o

Well I want to dedicate this to every single Juju-fan on this board,esspecially to Lady whom I promised it too when she posted her 1,000th :kiss:
BUt most important of all,I want to dedicate it my (our) inspiration *get's all teary* Miss Justine Henin-Hardenne :worship:

Greenout
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:57 PM
Is it just me of did the Justinator look to have lost some weight?
The pics from Kid's day and the Sabine Applemen's interview and
autograph session seemed to feature a more thinner face J2H?

Hmmm?

alexusjonesfan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 03:01 PM
Is it just me of did the Justinator look to have lost some weight?
The pics from Kid's day and the Sabine Applemen's interview and
autograph session seemed to feature a more thinner face J2H?

Hmmm?
maybe you were concentrating too much on her left arm :lol: ;)

Anyway, yes I know it's Duran Duran, but I kinda missed a lot of the 80's music scene being a child of the early 80's and all ;)

Greenout
Feb 23rd, 2004, 03:04 PM
maybe you were concentrating too much on her left arm :lol: ;)

Anyway, yes I know it's Duran Duran, but I kinda missed a lot of the 80's music scene being a child of the early 80's and all ;)

Left arm? No, seriously. Her face looks narrower in the pics from
Antwerp. 2 weeks away from game she get's thinner, other players
blow up like Liz Taylor in her jelly donut period. :haha:


Congrats on the 1000th post AJ. Your not a virgin anymore. :p

Brαm
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:03 PM
that's not true....anyone saying that has obviously not seen the australian open final on the rtbf...they were more pro-henin than they were pro-Clijsters on canvas at the same time....
Oh-Oh! Wait till minboy reads this :bolt:

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:17 PM
Today's headline of La Derniere Heure ( since you like that newspapers ) :"kim, our pure diamond"
Really, they are being WAY TOO HARSH on kim :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What could they say bad on her? :confused:

They still found some things to criticize Kim and Justine... at least to be ironic :rolleyes:

"Elle a levé les bras presque comme si elle avait remporté sa première levée du Grand Chelem."

"...poids des responsabilités qui pesait sur ses larges épaules.."

"


A voir la manière dont elle est présentée au public, ainsi qu'encouragée et acclamée à chacun de ses points gagnants, Kim Clijsters est clairement numéro un à Anvers. Justine Henin, quelque part, a raison de se concentrer sur d'autres échéances.
Le tournoi d'Anvers peut, le cas échéant, se passer d'elle sans problème..." :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:

William Hunt
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:05 PM
The reporters of the VRT for the tennis matches are superb ! Come on, I mean I don't know any challenge with such a high quality of comments. Eurosports comentators don't even know the technical terms used on Canvas !

It is true though that they are Kim fans but in Kim's matches against Maleeva, Casanova and Farina they were very objective. Carl even admitted that Farina played at least as good as Kim in set 1.

Maajken
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:34 PM
oh bravo for karl to admit that :rolleyes:

i still prefer the english commentators on eurosport, at least they know what they're talking about and they're nice to listen to aswell.

fleemke³
Feb 23rd, 2004, 08:16 PM
I hate him too :fiery: Not only because his "All mighy Kim with the steel legs from the mines in Limburg" worship, but also because of what his idiotic figurative language.

Twice I heard him make a "joke" about Leopoldsburg (a military domain in Flanders) this week.
First in one of Kim's matches when she hit a well disguised dropshot: "Does she stay in Antwerp or Leopoldburg" :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Then in Chladkova-Sprem. "Does she stay in Leopoldsburg or in Antwerp", about Chladkova because she has short hair -> military crew cut :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:Don't say anything bad about my hometown :mad: :p

I hate him .. and when I saw him in Antwerp I almost spoke to him to say what I think about his "work". But yes I was too shy :o and I'm working for Octagon so I have to be nice to the Clijsters'-gang ;)

I like Carl Maes :)

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 08:17 PM
What could they say bad on her? :confused:

They still found some things to criticize Kim and Justine... at least to be ironic :rolleyes:

"Elle a levé les bras presque comme si elle avait remporté sa première levée du Grand Chelem."

"...poids des responsabilités qui pesait sur ses larges épaules.."

"


A voir la manière dont elle est présentée au public, ainsi qu'encouragée et acclamée à chacun de ses points gagnants, Kim Clijsters est clairement numéro un à Anvers. Justine Henin, quelque part, a raison de se concentrer sur d'autres échéances.
Le tournoi d'Anvers peut, le cas échéant, se passer d'elle sans problème..." :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:
:lol: putain ouais , t'as raison, ils exagerent là!! franchement, si j'etais kim, je les attaquerai en diffamation, parce que là vraiment ils sont allés trop loin:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 09:19 PM
Oh-Oh! Wait till minboy reads this :bolt:
I think the poor guy is suffering from a inferiority complex :tape: ;)

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 09:33 PM
:lol: putain ouais , t'as raison, ils exagerent là!! franchement, si j'etais kim, je les attaquerai en diffamation, parce que là vraiment ils sont allés trop loin:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:22 PM
:rolleyes:
Ah ben de fait là tu m'a trop calmé! "Pas mieux" comme on dit dans "des chiffres et des lettres".

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:27 PM
Ah ben de fait là tu m'a trop calmé! "Pas mieux" comme on dit dans "des chiffres et des lettres".
Si je te fesais des :rolleyes: c'est parce que tu n'avais pas compris l'ironie de mon post

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:36 PM
je sais, meme que tu l'avais ecrit en toutes lettres.
N'empeche....

( je sais, je suis chiant, mais voilà, je vais pas te raconter ma vie parce que 1. j'ai pas le temps et 2 t'en as rien a foutre, mais y a des phases comme ca ou tout te casse les couilles et ou t'as envie de faire chier ton monde, juste pour te défouler, comme une petite vengeance sur les choses qui ne vont pas comme tu as envie qu'elle aillent. Et comme je ne suis pas encore assez con - ca ne devrait tarder - pour le faire en vrai, je préfere le faire virtuellement - c'est pour ca qu'en 3 jours j'ai poster 1/3 de mon total de post depuis 2 ans . Je sais, je suis con, mais on ne se refait pas comme dirait l'autre. Et puis, franchement, faut dire que tu n'aides pas beaucoup avec ta mauvaise foi permanente, et là par contre je suis ultra serieux )

Justineladivine
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:37 PM
It was longer than a week, even the Standaard opened a discussion about it. The 'hetse' around Justine won't even last that long, when she wins that Dubai-title, everything will be back in order.

Seriously i am not hoping for another all belgian final or even another Belgian GS-final, cause everything it brings up more trouble than something else (except the first GS )

I'm a hundred percent behind you on this (which shows we can agree and disagree from one thread to another). If Belgium is stupid enough to favour stupid squabbles even though we should be dancing in the streets for having the best champions in the world, then better have one of them quit or take a long holiday and let the other do the job all by herself (I have my preference for the one staying but this is purely rhetorical of course).
Yeah, if the Kim/justine miracle just means tearing this poor country further apart then let one of them drop dead.
From a Belgian in exile.

kiekeboe
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:38 PM
:lol: putain ouais , t'as raison, ils exagerent là!! franchement, si j'etais kim, je les attaquerai en diffamation, parce que là vraiment ils sont allés trop loin:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Là, ça va, je trouve

Mais, la VRT jeudi, a dit des mensonges! (comme la pluspart du temps, surtout les derniers temps) Comme quoi que "Justine n'avait pas envie de jouer", ça c'est attaquable pour diffamation! Car elle avait bien et bien des peuvres!
Ils ont pas ossée faire ce que France2 a ossée faire avec l'affaire Pudjudas!

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:45 PM
I'm a hundred percent behind you on this (which shows we can agree and disagree from one thread to another). If Belgium is stupid enough to favour stupid squabbles even though we should be dancing in the streets for having the best champions in the world, then better have one of them quit or take a long holiday and let the other do the job all by herself (I have my preference for the one staying but this is purely rhetorical of course).
Yeah, if the Kim/justine miracle just means tearing this poor country further apart then let one of them drop dead.
From a Belgian in exile.
I am not a trouble-maker ;) , not even a die-hard fan, used to be though.Belgium is stupid :lol: , I mean we have a small, but quite alright country with a lot of talent, but we often mess things up. And if we have something good, there are media we try to create controverses. I mean there we are the country with the now the 1 and 2 and what do they do, create controversy. I don't think I have ever seen such things in the American press. We have a tendency of messing up good things.

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:00 PM
Là, ça va, je trouve

Mais, la VRT jeudi, a dit des mensonges! (comme la pluspart du temps, surtout les derniers temps) Comme quoi que "Justine n'avait pas envie de jouer", ça c'est attaquable pour diffamation! Car elle avait bien et bien des peuvres!
Ils ont pas ossée faire ce que France2 a ossée faire avec l'affaire Pudjudas!
Je sais qu'il n'y avair rien de méchant dans l'article "incriminé", c'est juste que come-on-kim avait l'air de dire -ironiquement, je sais- qu'ils avait soit disant encore dit du "mal" de kim, alors qu'il n'y avait rien de tout cela.

Concernant l'affaire Pujadas, en tant que journaliste, je trouve qu'il ne méritait absolument pas une telle sanction. Il s'est planté magistralement c'est vrai , mais bon, il fait confiance à ses sources, et c'est pas vraiment de sa faute si ses sources n'etaient pas bien renseignées, d'autant plus que Juppé a surement changé 1000 fois d'avis dans la meme journée. Et puis, si les journalistes ne font plus confiance à leurs sources, ils ne disent plus rien, et il n'y a plus d'infos.
Mais c'est vrai qu'il s'est quand même bien planté et que c'était bien drôle !

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:03 PM
I am not a trouble-maker ;) , not even a die-hard fan, used to be though.Belgium is stupid :lol: , I mean we have a small, but quite alright country with a lot of talent, but we often mess things up. And if we have something good, there are media we try to create controverses. I mean there we are the country with the now the 1 and 2 and what do they do, create controversy. I don't think I have ever seen such things in the American press. We have a tendency of messing up good things.
As Leopold 2 used to say : " Petit pays, petit esprit " ( "little country, little mind" )
He was so right. Every time something goes fine , we have to screw it all up. Sad but true.

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:04 PM
Je sais qu'il n'y avair rien de méchant dans l'article "incriminé", c'est juste que come-on-kim avait l'air de dire -ironiquement, je sais- qu'ils avait soit disant encore dit du "mal" de kim, alors qu'il n'y avait rien de tout cela.

Concernant l'affaire Pujadas, en tant que journaliste, je trouve qu'il ne méritait absolument pas une telle sanction. Il s'est planté magistralement c'est vrai , mais bon, il fait confiance à ses sources, et c'est pas vraiment de sa faute si ses sources n'etaient pas bien renseignées, d'autant plus que Juppé a surement changé 1000 fois d'avis dans la meme journée. Et puis, si les journalistes ne font plus confiance à leurs sources, ils ne disent plus rien, et il n'y a plus d'infos.
Mais c'est vrai qu'il s'est quand même bien planté et que c'était bien drôle !
I thought the standard language in GM was English, not French

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:05 PM
As Leopold 2 used to say : " Petit pays, petit esprit " ( "little country, little mind" )
He was so right. Every time something goes fine , we have to screw it all up. Sad but true.
He is right, but I don't like Leopold II :p , cheated a bit too much on his poor wife ;) , not speaking about all his other troubles. Oeps it has nothing to do with the subject I know, I pleed guilty :)

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:05 PM
I thought the standard language in GM was English, not French
Don't worry, just a little off topic conversation that wouldn't interest anyone anyway.

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:06 PM
Don't worry, just a little off topic conversation that wouldn't interest anyone anyway.
:)

DeDe4925
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:08 PM
Well..if no cats, than post some J2H pics!

Here's one. She looks to be doing
a typical Nick Rhodes expression. :haha:





pic from Stassounette
Eek gads...where are her breasts???? :eek:

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:10 PM
je sais, meme que tu l'avais ecrit en toutes lettres.
N'empeche....

( je sais, je suis chiant, mais voilà, je vais pas te raconter ma vie parce que 1. j'ai pas le temps et 2 t'en as rien a foutre, mais y a des phases comme ca ou tout te casse les couilles et ou t'as envie de faire chier ton monde, juste pour te défouler, comme une petite vengeance sur les choses qui ne vont pas comme tu as envie qu'elle aillent. Et comme je ne suis pas encore assez con - ca ne devrait tarder - pour le faire en vrai, je préfere le faire virtuellement - c'est pour ca qu'en 3 jours j'ai poster 1/3 de mon total de post depuis 2 ans . Je sais, je suis con, mais on ne se refait pas comme dirait l'autre. Et puis, franchement, faut dire que tu n'aides pas beaucoup avec ta mauvaise foi permanente, et là par contre je suis ultra serieux )
Oui, j'ai vu que tu avais posté beaucoup mon grand

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:12 PM
Je sais qu'il n'y avair rien de méchant dans l'article "incriminé", c'est juste que come-on-kim avait l'air de dire -ironiquement, je sais- qu'ils avait soit disant encore dit du "mal" de kim, alors qu'il n'y avait rien de tout cela.
:worship:

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:13 PM
As Leopold 2 used to say : " Petit pays, petit esprit " ( "little country, little mind" )
He was so right. Every time something goes fine , we have to screw it all up. Sad but true.
Napoléon n'a t'il pas dit "De tous les peuples de la Gaulle ce sont les belges les plus braves, car les plus éloignés de la civilisation" :lol:

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:14 PM
Napoléon n'a t'il pas dit "De tous les peuples de la Gaulle ce sont les belges les plus braves, car les plus éloignés de la civilisation" :lol:
I think that was Julius Caesar :) .

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:16 PM
Napoléon n'a t'il pas dit "De tous les peuples de la Gaulle ce sont les belges les plus braves, car les plus éloignés de la civilisation" :lol:
C'est Jules César qui a dit ca.
N'empeche, force est d'avouer qu'il n' avait pas tout a fait tort. Et puis, la bravoure reste quand même une qualité assez noble malgré tout. Et puis etre civilisé, dans la bouche de Jules cesar, ca voulait dire avoir une super armée qui asservit tout les peuples sur son passage, alors.........

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:18 PM
C'est Jules César qui a dit ca.
N'empeche, force est d'avouer qu'il n' avait pas tout a fait tort. Et puis, la bravoure reste quand même une qualité assez noble malgré tout. Et puis etre civilisé, dans la bouche de Jules cesar, ca voulait dire avoir une super armée qui asservit tout les peuples sur son passage, alors.........
:rolleyes: @ me

I don't know why I wrote Napoleon ... Yes, I meant Jules Cesar!

pour Mr minboy, tu vois que je suis pas de mauvaise fois :p j'aurai pu commencer à dire que c't napoléon aussi qui avait dit ça :p mais non... j'ai reconnu mon erreur comme je fais toujours quand j'en fais une :)

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:23 PM
C'est Jules César qui a dit ca.
N'empeche, force est d'avouer qu'il n' avait pas tout a fait tort. Et puis, la bravoure reste quand même une qualité assez noble malgré tout. Et puis etre civilisé, dans la bouche de Jules cesar, ca voulait dire avoir une super armée qui asservit tout les peuples sur son passage, alors.........
Oui, mais c'était une stratégie de Cesar de dire telle choses. Il était battu par les Belges et c'est toujours plus mieux dire que ton adversaire est très brave que dire qu'ils sont faibles. Tu dois l'éxagerer un peu.

Feeling happy that six years of Latin-lessons at least had a purpose :)

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:26 PM
:rolleyes: @ me

I don't know why I wrote Napoleon ... Yes, I meant Jules Cesar!

pour Mr minboy, tu vois que je suis pas de mauvaise fois :p j'aurai pu commencer à dire que c't napoléon aussi qui avait dit ça :p mais non... j'ai reconnu mon erreur comme je fais toujours quand j'en fais une :)
Si t'avais dit ca, ca aurait vraiment été le "pompon" ( quelle expression à la con tiens d'ailleurs )
Franchement, ne dis pas que tu ne fais pas acte de mauvaise fois de temps en temps. Ca n'arrache pas la langue que de reconnaitre ses défauts. Moi aussi des fois je suis de mauvaise foi, mais bon, personne ne le remarque alors ..:lol: :lol:

PS : faut qu'on arrete de discuter en anglais parce que chaque fois t'arrive à me mettre hors de moi, alors qu'en francais ca va. Bizarre ca !

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:30 PM
Si t'avais dit ca, ca aurait vraiment été le "pompon" ( quelle expression à la con tiens d'ailleurs )
Franchement, ne dis pas que tu ne fais pas acte de mauvaise fois de temps en temps. Ca n'arrache pas la langue que de reconnaitre ses défauts. Moi aussi des fois je suis de mauvaise foi, mais bon, personne ne le remarque alors ..:lol: :lol:

PS : faut qu'on arrete de discuter en anglais parce que chaque fois t'arrive à me mettre hors de moi, alors qu'en francais ca va. Bizarre ca !
Allez parfois je suis de mauvaise fois, mais tout ce que j'ai dit est vrai :p Et alors quand tu dis que je mens :fiery:

C'est normal qu'en français ça aille mieux, ce n'est pas une langue de barbares :angel: jk

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:31 PM
Oui, mais c'était une stratégie de Cesar de dire telle choses. Il était battu par les Belges et c'est toujours plus mieux dire que ton adversaire est très brave que dire qu'ils sont faibles. Tu dois l'éxagerer un peu.

Feeling happy that six years of Latin-lessons at least had a purpose :)
Pas tout compris à ton post là:confused: . Pourquoi aurait-il dis qu'ils étaient faibles s'ils l' avait battu?
A moins que t'ai voulu dire que c'était l'armée romaine qui était faible? Ouais, elle a quand même asservi presque la moitié du monde connu de l'époque ( sauf un petit village au nord de la Gaule -petite private joke pour les lecteurs d'Asterix ), donc elle devait quand même s' y connaitre dans l'art de la guerre.

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:36 PM
Allez parfois je suis de mauvaise fois, mais tout ce que j'ai dit est vrai :p Et alors quand tu dis que je mens :fiery:

C'est normal qu'en français ça aille mieux, ce n'est pas une langue de barbares :angel: jk
Ah ben voilà, enfin!!! Il en aura fallu du temps. Tu vois que ca n'arrache pas la langue!

En fait, le probleme avec l'anglais, c'est que je crois que mes propos paraissent chaque fois fort aggressifs, alors que si je disais la meme chose en francais , avec la parfaite maîtrise que j'en ai :angel::lol: , ca passerait bien.

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:36 PM
Pas tout compris à ton post là:confused: . Pourquoi aurait-il dis qu'ils étaient faibles s'ils l' avait battu?
A moins que t'ai voulu dire que c'était l'armée romaine qui était faible? Ouais, elle a quand même asservi presque la moitié du monde connu de l'époque ( sauf un petit village au nord de la Gaule -petite private joke pour les lecteurs d'Asterix ), donc elle devait quand même s' y connaitre dans l'art de la guerre.
I can explain things much better in English. Caesar was beaten by Ambiorix, leader of a Belgian tribe. By saying that the Belgians were brave and courageous and great fighters, he indicated that he didn't lose against some nobodies, but against great fighters. If he would have said of the Belgians that they were weak and not good in battle, he had made a fool of himself in Rome, he the great Caesar, so good in battle, was beaten by some losers. He exaggerated the brave part a bit, although it was probabably true, but I think there were more braver tribes in gallia. He used this tactic a lot in his books 'de bello gallico', it made him popular in Rome.

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:40 PM
Ah ben voilà, enfin!!! Il en aura fallu du temps. Tu vois que ca n'arrache pas la langue!

En fait, le probleme avec l'anglais, c'est que je crois que mes propos paraissent chaque fois fort aggressifs, alors que si je disais la meme chose en francais , avec la parfaite maîtrise que j'en ai :angel::lol: , ca passerait bien.
Mais tu es très aggressif lol

Ce serait cool d'une fois pouvoir parler avec toi sur msn pour voir si on arrive à tenir plus de 30 minutes sans s'engueuler :p Si tu veux essayer, mon adresse est dans mon profile je crois lol

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:44 PM
I can explain things much better in English. Caesar was beaten by Ambiorix, leader of a Belgian tribe. By saying that the Belgians were brave and courageous and great fighters, he indicated that he didn't lose against some nobodies, but against great fighters. If he would have said of the Belgians that they were weak and not good in battle, he had made a fool of himself in Rome, he the great Caesar, so good in battle, was beaten by some losers. He exaggerated the brave part a bit, although it was probabably true, but I think there were more braver tribes in gallia. He used this tactic a lot in his books 'de bello gallico', it made him popular in Rome.
Ok, i got it. That's what i said starting from " A moins que t'ai voulu dire que ....".

Ambiorix, that was the guy from Tongeren , right? People from the Liège/Luik region have always been brave :lol: :lol: ( that's where i come from so that's why i'm joking about it )

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:46 PM
Mais tu es très aggressif lol

Ce serait cool d'une fois pouvoir parler avec toi sur msn pour voir si on arrive à tenir plus de 30 minutes sans s'engueuler :p Si tu veux essayer, mon adresse est dans mon profile je crois lol
malheureusement, mon pc personnel s'est crashé misérablement ya pas longtemps, là je suis sur un pc qui n'est pas à moi, donc je me vois mal installé msn et des trucs comme ca, ca risquerait de faire chier le proriétaire

Come-on-kim
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:48 PM
malheureusement, mon pc personnel s'est crashé misérablement ya pas longtemps, là je suis sur un pc qui n'est pas à moi, donc je me vois mal installé msn et des trucs comme ca, ca risquerait de faire chier le proriétaire
:fiery: Mauvais timing car justement ce soir je suis pas fatigué et je m'emmerde :lol:

Lien
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:49 PM
Ok, i got it. That's what i said starting from " A moins que t'ai voulu dire que ....".

Ambiorix, that was the guy from Tongeren , right? People from the Liège/Luik region have always been brave :lol: :lol: ( that's where i come from so that's why i'm joking about it )
Yeah, that is right. I am not from Limburg :) , Vlaams-Brabant, don't consider them brave though.

minboy
Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:59 PM
Yeah, that is right. I am not from Limburg :) , Vlaams-Brabant, don't consider them brave though.
There is a long tradition of "bravery" ( ?) here, i can tell you that. Some "invadors" ( envahisseurs ) didn't like it at all and destroyed the whole city several time as a vengeance . That was the case in 1268 for example, when The king of France made the city a ruin ( Not a SINGLE building survived ) because people didn't accept his authority. There are several examples, but i think you're not really interested anyway.

Lien
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:06 AM
There is a long tradition of "bravery" ( ?) here, i can tell you that. Some "invadors" ( envahisseurs ) didn't like it at all and destroyed the whole city several time as a vengeance . That was the case in 1268 for example, when The king of France made the city a ruin ( Not a SINGLE building survived ) because people didn't accept his authority. There are several examples, but i think you're not really interested anyway.
I am very much interested in history, but not at this houre :D

alexusjonesfan
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Il n'est pas bien quand tout le monde sont sympa et amical comme ca :p

ou est la guerre? :scratch:

minboy
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:18 AM
Il n'est pas bien quand tout le monde sont sympa et amical comme ca :p

ou est la guerre? :scratch:
Ben ouais, moi aussi je préfere quand tout le monde se fout sur la gueule, mais personne n'est d'accord avec moi:lol: :lol: :lol:

alexusjonesfan
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:33 AM
Ben ouais, moi aussi je préfere quand tout le monde se fout sur la gueule, mais personne n'est d'accord avec moi:lol: :lol: :lol:
:sad:

néanmoins, l'histoire de la Belgique est trés interessant pour nous étrangers ;)

minboy
Feb 24th, 2004, 02:21 AM
:sad:

néanmoins, l'histoire de la Belgique est trés interessant pour nous étrangers ;)
je parlais juste de ce thread, hein!!
Et puis c'etait seulement une plaisanterie, je parlais pas serieusement

Come-on-kim
Feb 24th, 2004, 09:52 AM
je parlais juste de ce thread, hein!!
Et puis c'etait seulement une plaisanterie, je parlais pas serieusement
...quoique :p

kiekeboe
Feb 24th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Je sais qu'il n'y avair rien de méchant dans l'article "incriminé", c'est juste que come-on-kim avait l'air de dire -ironiquement, je sais- qu'ils avait soit disant encore dit du "mal" de kim, alors qu'il n'y avait rien de tout cela.

Concernant l'affaire Pujadas, en tant que journaliste, je trouve qu'il ne méritait absolument pas une telle sanction. Il s'est planté magistralement c'est vrai , mais bon, il fait confiance à ses sources, et c'est pas vraiment de sa faute si ses sources n'etaient pas bien renseignées, d'autant plus que Juppé a surement changé 1000 fois d'avis dans la meme journée. Et puis, si les journalistes ne font plus confiance à leurs sources, ils ne disent plus rien, et il n'y a plus d'infos.
Mais c'est vrai qu'il s'est quand même bien planté et que c'était bien drôle !


C'est la même chose! Le journaliste (de la VRT) a dit ça pendant le direct!

I'm sorry for my french :), but usaul I repect the language of the topics.